The Secret Hitler
Sometimes I’ve tried to be fucking funny about how The Secret has ruined :: and ended … people’s lives. Mike Filsaime and Andy Jenkins think I’m the comedy bomb … but I’m not sure I can compete with these girls.
You can’t fucking compete with AmericanGirls :: that’s the lesson of recent events … U – S – A … U – S – A … etc.
Also :: I’m Hitler … and here’s my home address …
… as long as we’re talkin’ about my hood …
Please check out Panozzo’s authentic Italian/Chicago Market & Deli :: the care they put into sourcing and preparing their foods is ridiculous :: and worth every penny … or the drive to the near south side.
Also Jason’s not married :: so I guess he affords to live at 1250 S. Michigan Ave via monetized jealously … and/or The Law of Attraction.
Oh :: and … bite me assholes.
>> bleep bloop
More fabulously hilarious writing ::
- The Syndicate Meets The Secret Michele Blood wrote a “book” with Bob Proctor. It’s...
- The Secret Harmonic Death Closings Sheila Polk is Yavapai’s first female County Attorney :: she’s...
- Kilstein’s The Secret Secret Not-Doctor Harlan Kilstein hasn’t been having much success in...
- Secret Millionaire Secrets Revealed James Malinchak has a millionaire’s smile :: literally :: if smile...
- The White{Trash} Papers James Arthur Ray :: and his herpes infested tongue...
:: read one now before you die of stupid.
Thank you, hater, for the awesome new avatar!
(Also, OMG, that’s Dobby from Peep Show at 2:18! Dobs is the bomb!)
WINNER!! ::
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Ok I am a little confused but that isn’t anything new.
and your Alexa is only down because of Holidays as far as I can tell. Your search reach has grown a bunch the last 3 months. So at least Google seems to like you.
I doubt you really care though. The only people who seem to care are those people out there inn scamworld.
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Nice. I hoped this would get its own post… Now that video will get the views it deserves :: from being embedded on saltydroid.info!
It’s going intentionally-viral-in-reverse :: interwebz-anti-Secret. Good job Dyson!!
Maybe it is because of how in real life The Secret (like-attract-like) is, like, not how it works. Maybe James Dyson should be asking himself:
WINNER!! ::
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Wyrd Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
@Doctor Mario,
I guess Salty Droid is to scammers as magnets are to Insane Clown Posse — inscrutable like magic.
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Know Your Meme
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/downfall-hitler-reacts
In this instance, this use of this particular meme strikes me as reminiscent of Godwin’s Law [wikipedia.org].
At the same time, even though the video was (I guess?) meant to intimidate or whatever, parts of it were actually kinda funny. I also find it oddly flattering that to be mentioned in such company as @Lanna, @Yakaru, @Jack and @SD.
I dunno that the inclusion is truly justified though. I mean, yes I’ve recently been posting on saltydroid a lot, but my posts mostly lack the cool, important research stuff that others bring. That’s because actual research is HARD.
All I’ve got is to mention
1. Garfunkel and Oates are awesome.
2. <Insert Geek Cliche Here> [thefump.com]…
lyric sample
Tom Smith might not be Garfunkel and Oates, but he’s pretty cool in his own way. And he’s been around for quite a while..
I leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide whether the lyrics best fit the poster of the Salty{fnord}Hitler meme video or myself or Tom.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
WINNER!! ::
+7
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Aw man! Did you guys have a third reich themed brunch without the rest of use again!?!? No fair!
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Lanna Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:57 am
@What the what,
Isn’t that you at the 3:00 mark?
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What the what Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
@Lanna,
Ha, I love it! I’m the one standing there with the “what the fuck is going on” face. And rocking’ some sweet jewelry.
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James Dyson sucks ;)
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Anonymous Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 12:35 am
or blows…
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OptimizePress.Com Reply:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:52 am
@James Dyson from OptimizePress:
Why in the world are you slinging mud at people who are a beacon of light …. when you have much better things to do? You made a good wordpress theme, and then you showed how you know absolutely nothing about running a business.
You couldn’t handle customer service. You made a forum but closed it because you couldn’t handle it. You made a support site but closed it because you couldn’t handle it. You made a member site for your customers, but you stopped updating it because you couldn’t handle it. Then you ran out of money. So you came up with the genius idea of re-launching your wordpress theme…but telling everyone that it is a “totally different” … “thing” … so everyone gets to pay you again. You should have had better business sense, or just balls, to charge like a legitimate company and to run it like a legitimate company.
But now I see what you’ve been up to. You’ve been working on this fucking video for the past year. It’s clearly taken all of your creative juices.
Kid…..sometimes youth is wasted on the young. Your credibility for OptimizePress 2.0 has been downgraded from “getting worse” to “zero”.
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SD Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 2:01 am
@OptimizePress.Com ::
Sorry :: your comment went to spam … prolly cause you linked to James Dyson’s crap site.
I guess I hadn’t considered the possibility that “James Dyson” could be a real name. It would be hella stupid to sign your name to something like that … especially if you lived in England where something like “public disclosure of private facts” is treated much differently than in America.
Are you hella stupid James Dyson? Did you UK assholes just pick a fight with me?
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UK_Chocolate_Starfish Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 9:44 am
@SD, “Did you UK assholes just pick a fight with me?”
Listen up me old china, how dare you imply that we are tarred with the same brush. The dreams we sell are real dreams, none of that hyped-up USA crap. And anyway, Tim Lowe has a beard so you can trust him, right?.
To suggest that Matt Fyles is a scammer would be ridiculous, don’t you know he spent years studying the financial markets just so he could find a profitable edge. Instead of making a fortune for himself, he has kindly packaged this edge into a master of masters course so that we can all profit from it.
I too have an edge but I am selfish so i’m keeping it a secret while I selfishly make a living from it. You see the thing is it’s a zero sum game so for every person I give my edge to, it dilutes my profits by half. You can see why I would never, ever, ever give away a true edge for all the tea in china, can’t you?. When it stops working I’ll sell it on Ebay, but for now………….
Also Chris Farrell has a beautiful calming voice and that means he is kind and likes fluffy cats, how can you not trust someone who likes fluffy cats?. Btw, Mr Farrell is available for voice-overs, modelling clothes for catalogs and B-Movie acting roles if you know any Film Directors.
Yours warmly with a cherry on top:
Tim Lowe
Nick James
Matt Fyles
Sohail Khan
Chris Farrell
James Dyson
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Dr Geek Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
@UK_Chocolate_Starfish,
Sometimes it’s hard to understand you when you’ve got your tongue wedged so firmly in your cheek.
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Anonymous Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
@SD,
That interview looks decidedly underwhelming. I’d love to know how much the audience paid for that bit of staged social awkwardness…
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Lanna Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 11:02 am
@OptimizePress.Com,
It sounds like James Dyson’s business needed a jolt. A BusinessJolt.
On August 24, I used Facebook’s message feature to contact James at his BusinessJolt page and ask if it was really him who put up the video. He hasn’t responded. No surprise to you, right?
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James Dyson sucks ;) or blows…
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Garfunkle & Oates are brilliant, obviously. Salty always finds the best music.
I laughed my ass off at the Hitler parody. I thought it was Salty doing a parody of what trolls usually come up with. The bit about “If I can’t make money online, no one will” was hilarious.
And I think that’s the version of reality I prefer.
WINNER!! ::
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Droid….
You are a hero. Seriously. Thanks for exposing these sick fucks. If I ever get any time now that I am a dad (and trying to start a new career as a writer and moving and changing jobs), I will try to write a simple, concise, “why smart people are the easiest to hypnotise” little article. I think the idea that “it cannot happen to me” is one of the most dangerous ones.
There is actually a kind of science to it and it’s scarily effective. I have made it a kind of hobby to go and visit a cult from time to time, I have been to various different kinds. The salad dressing is always different, but the methods used to brainwash perfectly normal people into doing absurd things that only benefit the frauds are always the same mix of various techniques.
A few may be “natural conmen” but please believe me when I say that a LOT of these scumbags, including priests of various religions, actually study and train these methods for the sole purpose of creating personality cults.
WINNER!! ::
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M Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
@G, that’s a good idea to check out various cults.
I would love to hear what the “common techniques” are for cults, because I agree, people can be remarkably easy to dupe, and I should know, I was following a martial arts guru for awhile.
I want to get better at noticing these techniques so I can point them out to people in the cult.
M
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Your troll really dislikes Lanna, and your troll doesn’t understand giving birth.
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Wanderlost Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
@EthiopianCrackBaby, Oh, the guy who gave Lanna his fucked and then got mad because he lost it? Yeah, I can believe it. The video is the same sort of unintentional self-parody.
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Lanna Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
@EthiopianCrackBaby,
I think “your” right.
BTW, the fucked is getting along well here. The deworming medication seems to be working, and the little guy likes to play hide-and-seek with all the cats in between my rows of empty egg cartons and old newspapers.
WINNER!! ::
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SD Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 3:54 am
@EthiopianCrackBaby ::
I’m not going to tolerate your continued use of proxies.
You’re welcome here … but not like this.
Fucking weak sauce.
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Ach! I vas already haffing der nightmares about little German men, and now this!
I am somewhat disappointed that I didn’t make it into the video, but I am a little too ethnic-looking to be a fake Nazi, I suppose.
WINNER!! ::
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Martypants Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
@Cosmic Connie, Silly blue bitch…wait until that smurfs’ retaliatory post comes to get you. They are reclaiming their hues.
“haffing der nightmares” is causing me too much hilarity, uber diesen sheistbekopffen.
Das Leben ist schrecklich hässlich wenn Unternehmer wie Zauberer.
or something.
WINNER!! ::
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Shorty Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 3:50 pm
@Martypants, ooh, I hope I get included in the Smurfs post …I love their app! Now excuse me I have some magic berries to harvest for Papa Smurfs’ potion!
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I don’t think the traffic downturn on this blog is due to any holidays. It is one third of what it was a year ago according to compete.com. I don’t know what that says, but it is fact.
I can say that I don’t visit as often as I once did because I have little interest in Ray, and that seems to be a primary focus. Whatever.
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Lanna Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
@Mitch,
Alexa shows traffic being down over the summer, when people are “on holiday” as the Brits say and probably spending more time away from their keyboards in general, and it’s also down from last year. Maybe more regulars are using RSS feeds? Maybe, like you say, the JAR story isn’t of interest to the people who started reading for the IM stories.
Traffic is pretty much a “whatever” issue. The point of the site is to call our scammers and warn the public. Alexa says search traffic is up – for terms including “Maria Andros scam” and “Ryan Deiss scam,” so that sounds to me like more of the public is being warned.
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was here before Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 3:51 am
@Lanna,
now that you mention Ryan D., his latest email is “You want in the Kindle Syndicate?”
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Lanna Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 10:03 am
@was here before,
Thanks for the tip, @was here before.
It seems Ryan Deiss …
and convicted felon Perry Belcher …
have started a book club.
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Wyrd Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 10:38 am
@Lanna,
Ryan Deiss and Convicted Felon Perry Belcher… man those guys never stop hanging out together and making fraud-y businesses together.
http://saltydroid.info/patsyboys-info-masturbation/ [saltydroid.info 25 August 2009]
I think @SD called it somewhere way back then–Ryan and Perry, BFFs… in Scamworld.
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Jack Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
@Wyrd, And then some people can’t figure out about why they get bashed for promoting mr. Deiss. Here’s a man who tries to pretend he isn’t promoting mr. Deiss/Belcher after getting called-on out about it:
http://ezseonews.com/review/the-kindle-publishing-challenge/
Toothpaste Cap Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
@Jack, Holy Crap Scam!
What Ryan Deiss appears to be doing is creating another scammy “sydicate” of people to create fake reviews of each others’ crap ebooks. That is talked about in that thread on “ezseonews.”
It was also shown that Deiss’ own efforts to sell a “gardening” ebook were FAR from stellar, and yet he is selling another “you can, too” course based on that!
Check out his bullshit factory “staff” here (looks like Mary Ellen Tribby has left):
http://ideaincubator.net/team/
Toothpaste Cap Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Wow. Besides Ryan Deiss and Perry Belcher (look under “mentors,”) I counted *38* (THIRTY-EIGHT!) employees at Deiss’ growing bullshit factory!
http://ideaincubator.net/team/
This needs some serious attention!
Let’s not forget Perry Belcher and the DOZENS of sites connected with this bullshit operation:
http://www.planetamazing.con
Stuff like
http://www.whiteflyguard.com
and
http://www.urinesecret.com
to name but a few…
MellowDude Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 5:04 am
@Wyrd, @Tootpaste cap
There’s also a long thread on the experienced-people.net forum about Andy Deiss and how the scam unfolded:
http://experienced-people.net/forums/showthread.php/9295-Kindle-Challenge-by-Ryan-Deiss
MellowDude Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 5:05 am
@Wyrd, @Tootpaste cap
There’s also a long thread on the experienced-people.net forum about Ryan Deiss and how the scam unfolded:
http://experienced-people.net/forums/showthread.php/9295-Kindle-Challenge-by-Ryan-Deiss
was here before Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 2:13 am
@Lanna,
http://www.numberonebooksystem.com/kindle-challenge/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/HowToSell100KindleBooksADay.pdf
Pages 16 and 17 Facebook screenshots.
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Perry Felchers Ryan Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@was here before,
Is this the same Kindle Syndicate where criminal Perry Belcher publishes eBooks on topics he knows absolutely nothing about?
At some point, Amazon will have to self-police to get rid of the garbage these clowns put out as eBooks.
As for Deiss’ Kindle publishing 67-page eBook, many reviews on Amazon are unfavorable despite the fan boys and fake reviewers.
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Rocky Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
@Perry Felchers Ryan,
Amazon Review:
“5.0 out of 5 stars “Greatest Kindle Publishing Book Ever!,” August 22, 2012
“There’s no one better at teaching you how to dominate your niche with Kindle books like Ryan Deiss. This is a MUST read if you’ve ever wanted to write, publish and profit from a book!” – JEFF VACEK
Reply under that review:
“You must be kidding…the book is pure marketing and has no substance re: Kindle publishing at all.”
LOL!
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SD Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Here’s the “best” of the idea incubated “books” …
http://www.amazon.com/Jokers-Wild-Conspirancy-Colorado-ebook/dp/B008SUUNIS
… yep … that’s fucked. And the URL has a spelling error … so to must have the “first edition” of this Kindle masterpiece{of shit}. Couldn’t even get the fucking title right.
As one reviewer {who wasn’t one of Ryan and Perry’s employees} said …
“your better off to do some LSD and watch Bill O’ Reilly.”
… true of most things.
Our old friend Lis Sowerbutts …
http://lissowerbutts.com/number-one-book-system-review-scam-ryan-deiss/
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Thurston Howell III Reply:
August 29th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
@SD, From Lisa’s post:
“Deiss does all the talking, but the whois info for The Number One Book System website lists Belcher as the owner.”
I know it’s a little early, but the bestest Christmas present ever would be seeing Perry Belcher go to prison like he deserves. If there’s room in that little concrete cell for Ryan Deiss too, even better.
** Cages for Psychopaths! **
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SD Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
@Mitch ::
Who gives a shit about the traffic? Not me obviously … or I wouldn’t spend 85% of my time doing activist stuff that nobody will ever click on.
If it was about trying to be popular :: I would pick on targets who are actually popular … instead of these d-list poser asshole slime balls. This site just happened to get semi-popular :: but that wasn’t :: and isn’t … the point.
The point is making progress.
That’s why I can afford to not give a fuck about what you do or don’t have an “interest” in :: I’m not your dancing monkey … this is fucking revolution!
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Wyrd Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
@SD,
Viva la revolution.
WINNER!! ::
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Mitch Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 5:58 am
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
LOSER!! ::
-5
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Yakaru Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 6:36 am
@Mitch,
If your comment is being voted up as much as down (in which case I kind of wonder why it’s -4 at the moment) then that would mean that there’s a diversity of opinion being expressed and tolerated here — which contradicts your statement about yes men & women.
Also, plenty of regular commenters here disagree with Salty from time to time, and are disagreed with, but generally the reason why regular commenters are regular is because they like the site and agree with the general approach. So it’s no surprise that there’s a lot of agreement.
I’ve also noticed that at least 95% of dissenting views here are not based on any factual corrections or new information, but focus on something completely and utterly irrelevant — like ratings, for example.
Incidentally, if you had been reading longer, you’d remember a troll calling himself Voice of Reason who was a total nutcase. So why don’t you call yourself “Voice of Fucking Reason” from now on?
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Mitch Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:11 am
@Yakaru, What I was saying is that posts I have made being a yes man were up voted, while posts I have made containing the slightest bit of descent are down voted. This is why I say it is a yes man crowd. It doesn’t really matter. Everybody clicks on the post to read it once it has been down voted anyway.
Read my initial post. It wasn’t negative towards the droid. I simply stated that the traffic is down. Simple fact. I am as anti guru as any of you are. I just think you are a bunch of yes men that’s all.
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Anonymous Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:05 am
@Mitch, Yes.
Nicholas Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 9:06 am
@Mitch, Yes, noymously.
Jack Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@Mitch, Someday it’s the Yes Men type I hope I can be:
Wyrd Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@Jack,
Re Yes Men movie:
That looks so totally weird and awesome.
And it’s available for Instant Play on Netflix!
I know what I’m watching tonight.
It’s kind of like… Discordian social activism.
Thanks, @Jack
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
Lanna Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
@Mitch,
I think you will find that on any site with a point of view, though. If you go to a vegan site and say veal is bad, you’ll get a bunch of thumbs up. If you go to the same site and say it’s OK to kill cows because cows are dumb and lazy, you’ll get a bunch of thumbs down. When you say something in the middle, like honey is OK, or feeding cats meat is OK, you’ll get both agreement and dissent.
We’re not just a bunch of anonymous dicks yelling at each other in the Internet, either. Behind the handles and avatars are real people working together, sharing skills, information and the researching/commenting workload, in a scam-fighting community. When trolls come in, it’s definitely very us vs. them. We need to show solidarity. We need to work together. So the dissent is quiet, polite and well-supported. I often find myself voting up both sides of a disagreement because both make good points.
If you look at the votes, it’s usually just the regular commenters, too. When someone like Alison or the Pierce family says something poignant, it gets 35 thumbs up or so. Most comments only get three or four thumbs up, though. Most commenters and lurkers are neutral on most comments.
Gaz Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 7:10 am
@Mitch,
There is no excuse for using derogatory epithets, especially the “C” word when referring to people of either sex. You cock.
I’m with What the What. Mine eyes have been opened. You cant’ make money on line. Stop worrying and enjoy your life.
Rock on Salty.
Mitch Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:16 am
@Yakaru, and incidentally, I was probably among the first to start reading this blog. So I have been around a while and my assessment is not that of a newcomer.
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Yakaru Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:49 am
@Mitch,
Just because I agree with someone who says things I agree with doesn’t make me a yes man. I don’t know why the consensus here is such a mystery for you. Dissenting doesn’t automatically make you a rebel or a voice of fucking reason either, especially if your dissent is based on mere opinion without a shred of evidence; or if it’s irrelevant… or both, as in the case of your argument about ratings.
And if people always click on the voted down comments to read them, then that’s a sign that dissent is looked on with interest here.
WINNER!! ::
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SD Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
@Mitch / Donk ::
If you were one of the first readers :: and you’re still this dumb … then you might as well give up.
You can’t save stupid people from themselves … you know?
Here’s another comment of yours that got voted down … was that because you’re the voice of reason … or because your an ignorant asshole?
And here’s one that got voted up :: prolly by Naomi trolls … where you tell me about how “… you can’t make money online” is like totally not true and stuff. That was before it was the tagline even :: so you were a real trend-setter there … that must be good for your ego.
People are YesMen here because I’ve taken the most ridiculously uncontroversial stance :: horrible fraud is horrible … a point obviously lost on you.
Mitch Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
LOSER!! ::
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Wyrd Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
@Mitch,
Oh, but, @Mitch… everybody’s stupid. Don’t you know that yet, fool? You’re stupid, I’m stupid, everybody’s stupid. At least at some time or another. We all of us make mistakes. We make errors of judgement. We have lapses of reason. We sometimes do stupid things on accident.
But when was there ever a repeat scammer that did it on accident? Clearly the bulk of the blame should rest on the intentional scamm-er not the error-of-judgement scamm-ee.
I wonder why you keep wanting to put all the blame on the person who’s been scammed. I wonder why it’s so hard for you to understand what cult indoctrination is.
It’s as if you just don’t want to understand. It’s as if you’ve got some special reason why you have to cling to the broken belief that it’s always all the victim’s fault for being so stupid.
It seems to me, @Mitch, that you have a problem called “willful ignorance”. Or is it that you have been indoctrinated as well? Are you someone’s victim?
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
What the what Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
@Mitch,
Wow. That was fast, from “seemingly” reasonable discussion to “sniveling little cunt” in only 5 comments.
But what do I know, I’m just one of those stupid people who can’t be saved from themselves….except for that one time…when I totally was….and this site had a little something to do with that process.
WINNER!! ::
+7
Jack Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
@Mitch, you misspelled “bacon”.
Wyrd Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 9:28 am
@SD,
Time and tempering on this site have shown me that while the oft debated phrase “you can’t make money online” might not be literally true in the strictest sense it is still the exactly perfect catch phrase for this site for all of the reasons you and everyone else always give.
I do also like all the other little phrases that show up in the blog widgets around the edges of articles. For example “More fabulously hilarious writing ::” <Article links&rt; “:: read one now before you die of stupid.”
That one’s great. Apparently the meaning is clear to all because it’s never seemed as controversial as the main catch phrase. But I’ll write out my interpretation here anyway, ’cause that’s the pedantic thing to do:
“read one now. . .” is an impassioned plea to the reader to read more. It’s saying that it isn’t nearly enough to just bounce in here from wherever on the Internets, skim parts of one article and then start flaming away. Knowledge takes more effort than that.
It’s also saying that a lack of knowledge can be deadly dangerous. And that’s a very true thing indeed.
The “categorically” and “subjectories” are nice puns. And of course the final one (unless I’m missing one?) at the bottom of this and every comment submission box is the self contradictory bit about the carrot cake recipes. I love stuff like that.
Wanderlost Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
@Mitch/Donk – I’ve tried disagreeing with Salty a number of times. But (kind of just like you only really different) this horrible thing happens every time I do- not that I get voted down big time (although that happens sometimes, too) but that I discover EVERY SINGLE F-ING TIME that Salty’s totally right and I’ve just been sucked in (AGAIN!) by some idiot-scammer posing as a normal, non-psychopathic person. For some reason none of the idiot-scammer types seem to be able to keep the normal-sounding persona going for more than four or five posts. They get outed so fast that it’s just become too embarassing to give some semi-reasonable sounding ‘dissenter’ the benefit of the doubt. IRL I’ll probably continue to be a trusting idiot. But on this site, at least, I’ve learned to sit back and wait and give the trolls a chance to self-ignite. Thank you for confirming once again that this is the path of wisdom and saving me from my own stupid self.
Lanna Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 8:03 am
@Mitch,
The features and interviews show that this is getting mainstream traction. Salty is no longer the lone voice raising awareness about these scams.
As @Yakaru says, we wouldn’t stick around if we didn’t agree with most of what is said here. Oddly, the video names @EthiopianCrackBaby as a “general” even though this commenter was disagreeing with Salty and talking about a particular scammer even when Salty said we’re not going to talk about her. I suppose that’s what’s happening in the original video – Hitler’s generals are breaking the news that the guy in charge of the counterattack disobeyed orders and didn’t make the attack – but that seems a little too complicated for the video maker to string together.
And, for the record, I disagree with Salty’s decision to not talk about AL, but I respect him for everything else he’s doing so, fine, we don’t need to talk about her.
Get out of IM, AL.
WINNER!! ::
+7
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Wyrd Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
@Mitch,
What you call being a yesman, I would call common courtesy. I largely agree with Salty’s mission (and believe me it is a mission).
Occasionally, there’s some point here or there where I have minor disagreement (like I’m not sure Salty should be so quick to give Sonia Simone the benefit of much doubt). Sometimes I even raise these points.
But I don’t tend to go on an on about it. That’s both out of courtesy and also because it’s clear Salty hasn’t set this up as an academic, esoteric debate site where the minor quibbling points are discussed to the nth degree.
So if I were to go and on and on about something… it would be pointless… and distracting… and I’d get flamed for being a pointless distraction… (And I think that’s perfectly reasonable.)
That’s what has happened to you in the comment thread, btw. You’re getting pooped on by the Droid because you’re trying to provoke a kind of debate that no one here is really interested in having.
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
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I transcribed it, typos and all, because I got tired of rewinding, and in case it disappears off YouTube. I hope I got the names right.
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Wyrd Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@Lanna,
That’s cool. I was thinking of doing that. So, thanks! :-)
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What the what Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
@Lanna,
I thought that exact same thing re: @Cosmic Connie saying “stick to the script.”
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
@What the what, @Lanna… If it was a reference to me it was obviously too subtle for me to grasp, but then a lot of stuff goes over my head.
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What the what Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 8:29 pm
@Cosmic Connie,
Yeah, I’m not sure there was any reference by the video creator about it. For me, I think it was more that once the video named a few characters from the regular commenters here, I started placing the rest of the regulars in as other characters. I figured you prominently with a speaking line in the production.
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Jack The Hate Monger Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 3:06 pm
@Lanna, Awesome. And awesome new avatar!
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Dr Geek Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
@Lanna,
I can’t say I had your figured for a cat person…
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I would like to see the blog be popular because that would imply that more people are being warned about scams.
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@_the_No_more_James_A_Ray_stories_constituency_
If the JAR stories aren’t popular, then that sucks, but I’ not sure there’s much to be done about that. It’d be bad if Salty only covered scammer issues that were popular.
That’s how the regular news operates–and look at what kind of an un-informed public it leaves us with.
For example, when things started getting bad in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina I heard about it first on the BBC many, many hours before I heard anything about it on American news.
And even when the American so-called news channels did start covering it, the coverage was weak tea for another half a day at least.
Our news coverage, at least in the U.S., mostly sucks. And a big part of the reason for that suck is a news infrastructure that has been eroded and weakened to the point that it’s often nothing more than a hype-of-the-moment factoid, sound-byte regurgitation machine.
That’s because so many people are really only interested in being entertained rather than informed.
The attitude that you’ll only ever pay attention to what is entertaining is exactly the sort that is needed to allow for a James A. Ray to exist and prosper in the first place.
…
{Thanks hater monkeys}
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
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I might’ve shrugged this off with a joke (sorry I wasn’t there for the meeting, but those cyanide pills weren’t going to make themselves) if it weren’t for two things. Firstly, publicly posting an address isn’t cool, particularly the address of someone who gets a death threats. Secondly, the ad-hominem attack on Lanna was as vindictive as it was inaccurate. The thought of Lanna being the source of The Droid’s ire is simply risible.
The makers of this video aren’t worth the steam off my piss.
WINNER!! ::
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Dr Geek Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
@Dr Geek,
“a death threats”? My inner pedant is screaming…
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They used a Downfall parody to dox you? Man, that’s just not cool.
It says a lot about the Salty Droid’s enemies, though. The blog posts here are angry and bilious, sure, but I never see them as having any objective other than to spread awareness of what the Salty Droid sees as a dangerous, dishonest industry. The blog’s objective isn’t to start riots or get scammers’ houses burned down. The Droid doesn’t run this blog because he wants to harm scammers; he runs this blog because he wants to keep scammers from harming people — by making people aware of scammers, the tactics they use, and the harm they cause.
The Droid doesn’t want to hurt the scammers; he just wants them to make their living doing something other than harming people. How do the scammers respond to his agenda? They try to cause him direct, personal harm, by spreading his personal information across the internet and suggesting that this information be used to harass, threaten, and/or injure The Droid. Amusingly, they decided to publish your information instead of using it themselves, which indicates that they’re not only evil, but a bunch of fucking cowards.
WINNER!! ::
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Wyrd Reply:
August 25th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@somebody,
Well said.
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Loved the video… But I think it’s unfair that Debbie got left out.
You just cannot trust a bunch of scammers to treat secretaries fairly.
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Wyrd Reply:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:27 am
@Kim,
Wait a minute, that’s it! Apologies to @Cosmic Connie and @What the What, but I think the unnamed “Just stick to the script” person is fake secretary Debbie!
Debbie’s fake not-real-ness shouldn’t really be an issue since the whole thing is so farcical anyway.
It makes sense (in an absurdist nonsense way) for it to be fake secretary Debbie that tells fake Lanna to stick to the script.
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Wide Eyes Reply:
August 26th, 2012 at 10:39 am
@Wyrd,
Hey Wyrd—since you’re mentioned in the video, it’s a good time to say I always enjoy reading your comments.
Cheers!
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Anonymous Reply:
August 26th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
@Wide Eyes,
Thanks :-)
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What the what Reply:
August 26th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
@Wyrd,
Gadzooks! No offense taken. How could I forget about fake secretary Debbie?
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Clap, clap, clap — well, this was kind of funny. And it’s nice NLP reframing in the process.
BUT . . .
Let’s talk about the real issue.
Yes, you can make money online; but you can’t make FAST money online (except by scamming, selling pipe dreams). Like everything else, it’s hard and takes a lot of of time—years. And there’s no guarantee.
The problem is, people like Frank Kern suggest it’s easy. The whole spiel of FK is “oh look at me, I was poor and Bam! internet marketing saved my life”—and that’s where the fallacy lives.
Now FTC lawsuit looser Kern keep warning people off in all his pieces “for the love of God, there’s no guarantee) as he learned his lesson and don’t want to be sued again. BUT—his storyline, he keeps reinforcing throughout is “buy my stuff, it’s easy to make fast bucks.”
Wait—he never says that. That’s right, he SUGGESTS it instead through a never ending streak of visual clues in his videos (driving a Rolls Royce, having a pile of $30,000 on spread on a table, being in a jacuzzi drinking champagne with “hot chicks”, a display case with his fancy watches, etc). While saying “I just love the freedom I have,” etc.
Now a REALITY CHECK, with something I randomly found.
Here’s below a comment left by a man on Jason Moffat’s website (a Kern associate) who’s the typical Internet Marketing victim. His story his super sad. He’s lost everything and he’s giving away his last dollars to Frank Kern, thinking he will turn himself around. In this comment, he begs Moffat to reassure him that he made the right decision by buying Kern’s products. This is really sad as you can feel the desperation in the tone of the email.
This is the core of the problem — false promises, desperate people, and scammer selling pipe dreams.
So thank you Salty for exposing all that— you rock!
So without further delay—a typical Internet Marketing victim (long text, but it’s worth the read):
stewart
30 August 2009 at 6:03 am
PERMALINK
Hi Jason, i have just stumbled across your website after searching for reviews on Mass Control 2.0, here’s why, i quit my day job last year after succesfully setting up a real estate business in the UK (England), things were going very well, nice car, great house etc, last November got some real bad news, I had invested a 100,000 (about 175,000 USD) into a high investment scheme that was giving me around 10% return per month, happy days… turns out that this was a ponzi scheme and my money has gone for good. this happened the day AFTER i had jsur completed a deal on a new property based on a golf course where i am now living, also since then the property game is drying up big time and the money i had is nearly gone, i have to do something to get back into gear or i am f***ked for day to day living money. here is my point, i am a very positive person and i mean very positive nothing will ever beat me down..ever, and that has been tested in my life. i am desperate to get into Internet marketing, affiliate marketing and have spent hours reseacrching, courses CD’s, etc it is an absolute nightmare trying to see whi is the real dwal and who the scam merchants are, anyways last week, a friend just sent me a simple link to Frank Kerns interview with Tony Robbins (i am a big fan of Tonys and have attaeded many of his events around the world) and decided to dig a bit deeper on this guy, well, out of all the people i have researched he seems to be credible, so much so that I decided to purchase all his stuff including Mass Control 2.0 in effort to get some specific knowledge from somebody who has alraedy done what i hope to achieve, i am a very committed person who always follows through and have spent the last bit of my money with Frank in order to get some revenue streams going via the internet, the rest or last of my money has gone on some decnt video kit and software. i would like to ask question to you and hope you will be kind enough to answer. I have taken a punt with this guy and given him the last of my money in hope that the knowledge he says the product contains will deliver as long as i do my bit, i have also put enough aside to subscibe to his monthly forum for latest updates etc etc, the greater good of me, my beautiful wife Janet and two fantastic sons Damon 16 and Cameron 12 are dependant on me selecting the right people and product combined with my own creative input, my question to you is this..is he and his product the real deal? if i do my utmost best and follow it to the letter will i make some success from it? i saw a video of you and also saw you answer a question in a forum which lead me to beleive you too are a credble guy and i would appeal to your best nature that if i am going to be sucked in and blown out that due to my current situation you could be candid with me, also i am keen to also now EXACTLY what i need to make this work, i notice keyword leite 2.0 as well on your site but unsure whether i need to invest (i am happy to buy from your link but dont want to be taken for a ride) i strongly beleive in seeking out succesful role models, i ahev done very well mysefl before but this is new to me and i want to make sure i am adding genuine people to my mastermind group. hope this is clear and sorry if i have rambled on but if you dont ask you dont get.
Thanks in advance and i look forward to hearing from you
Stewart (rainy England)
PS i have vacationed in California for the last 3 years with my family and it is our hope to move out there one day, we love the sun and the easy going nature of you guys.
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Wyrd Reply:
August 26th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
@Wide Eyes,
That is indeed a sad story.
Personally I’ve got a theory that some of these same cash flow problems also affect some B or A steamers sometimes. How else to explain why Frank Kern would shill while his pregnant (I forget–was it wife or girlfriend?) female person’s hospital bed?
Sure you can say drugs, you can say sociopathy. But the hospital bed thing is just effed up and un-professional.
You wouldn’t see Bob Proctor pulling that crap, and I really don’t think he’s any evil than Frank. I think Bob just knows how to live a more stable {evil} life.
Please forgive my tangent here. It was just something that kind of jumped out at me. instability and scamminess are related maybe but they’re not the same. But then that is yet another separate sin we can lay on the IM-MMO crowd is that they preach Take Massive Action which is code for: sacrifice your stable job for the promise of quick money.
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Wide Eyes Reply:
August 26th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
@Wyrd,
Well the instability does come from the drug/alcohol usage.
In his videos, Frank Kern kept telling he had an:
• Alcohol problem
• Addiction to Adderral amphetamine
He also talked about “binging on cocaine with hookers in Vegas.” Not confessing about it but he stated it as a casual example— it was something like “if you’re into the habit binging on cocaine with hookers in Vegas; then you have a problem.” I struck me that he seemed to know about this. But hey—maybe not . . . maybe …. not
I also remember an interview between Eben Pagan and Frank Kern. On the phone, Kern was bragging he was drinking absinth and, indeed, he sounded drunk.
Substance abuse is part of Frank Kern rhetoric. It seems that every 6 months or so he comes back with a tear in his eye, confessing he’s been using something but now he’s finally cleaned up. Typical addict lies.
What I found striking in Frank Kern is his fast accelerated aging. Every time I see him, he seems to look older, puffier. His eyes look puffier each time.
Anyways,
you add to the mix a compulsion for buying exotic cars and Mc Mansions . . . AND a divorce (always costly).
Then—yes. You have someone who’s highly unstable.
Also reading about Boiler Rooms on this blog, it seems that drug use comes automatically to scammers— as a way to maintain a straight face/to live with yourself.
As for your take on Bob Proctor being a more stable evil. I have no idea. But imagining what HIS life could be scares me A LOT. Bob Proctor? Brrrrrrr! (shivers)
WINNER!! ::
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 10:09 am
@Wide Eyes, @Wyrd, I see Wyrd’s point about Proctor and his facade of “stability” and respectability — reinforced by his longevity (ol’ Bob has been in the huckstering business decades longer than the rest of these jokers) — but I think it is that very air of “respectability” that has allowed him to get away with some truly heinous things.
Kern, Proctor, et al. … They are all turds of a feather, even if they don’t necessarily flock together.
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respected fake bot ji…….your doing good work ….keep it up……..also to do care about popularity of your blog…….because my logic says wider reach translates into more number of kicks on scammer’s posteriers…….your alien friend
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SD Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 1:39 am
@hain ji ::
Not caring about getting popular doesn’t mean that you won’t get popular.
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And now you have me too :)
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This was fantastic. Thanks Salty!
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That’s kind of disturbing yet oddly amusing too. As if the whole point of this site is to complain because you “couldn’t start a business online.” Jeebus whoever made that video is off the mark.
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to be honest, I think the Hitler caption thing is a little tired. You do know it is in poor taste?
Was wondering who some of these comments belong to. Some of the writing styles look familiar. Any thoughts?
Is the “voice of reason” an IM avatar with a long term strategy of watering down the things SD says? Cleaver.
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Jack Reply:
August 27th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
@John Blake,
Probably mine is from my famous website which you can find by searching up “Jack” on Google and searching thru many of the pages to find me.
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SD Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 1:43 am
@John Blake ::
I don’t think “long term strategy” is in the scammer repertoire.
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Random stuff Reply:
August 28th, 2012 at 3:28 am
@John Blake, close – but no cigar.
Actually the problem this site finds is getting decent ‘dissenting commenters’. Too many people agree with what’s being said here – even the scammers know that this site reflects reality, and does their trade no good – but they don’t want to comment here, as what generally happens is that they are ‘editorialised’ into nothingness (and provide good entertainment along the way).
So – what now happens is… some of the dissenting commenters have ‘similar writing styles’ – and if they are too good to be true… well I think you understand. But I think you might be a real ‘dissenting commenter’ – in which case, welcome to the website, brilliant news!
Or not.
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This may be slightly off-topic, but I’ve been thinking so much lately about Colleen on the third anniversary of her death that it’s got me revisiting the possibility of Death Ray being released from prison soon. He’s still sending out e-mails shilling shit and he still has his website up, all of which encourages me to think he will return to his murdering, snake oil self as soon as he can upon his release. Let me just say that personally, I can’t wait. I hope to be front and center at his seminars, calling him out face to face. Let’s all go together, shall we?
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Dubstep in Scamworld?
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/28/3262089/history-of-dubstep-beyond-lies-the-wub
… or something.
Hopefully Frank Kern will find the time to fact check it.
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[...] recently been hyping "his" Number One Book System which as Lanna over at the Salty Droid points out here is not-so-mysteriously showing convicted internet scammer Perry Belcher as the registrant. Whois: [...]
Admittedly, I thought the first video were the actresses from the sitcom ’2 Broke Girls’ for a moment. Stop judging me on my tastes, fucks!
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Thank you for creating this site. Although I only lost $30 on a domain, hosting, and about to start promoting these shitty products, after reading this site and “Warrior Forum Sucks,” I’m literally sick to my stomach.
I make a comfortable living, and would love some passive income. But I’m not going to become an immoral shithole fucking over people to make that extra income.
Thank you again for this site.
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