Show Me Your Warrant
“You are not going to die, you might think you are, but you’re not going to die.” ~ James Arthur Ray {aka God} :: repeatedly :: before and during the infamous 2009 “sweat lodge.”
Truth Edit: “Okay :: maybe you are going to die. I mean this is some seriously dangerous shit :: people get hurt every fucking year :: and I’ve developed a weirdo death fixation. But I’m not going to die. I can’t enjoy a death fixation if I’m dead … know what I mean? :: So I’ll sit by the door like the dainty fucking coward that I am :: and I’ll roll the dice with your life instead.”
Defying many of The Droid’s preconceived notions about the suck-a-tude of The Media :: attorneys for a local television station in Phoenix :: KPNX Channel 12 :: managed to get some of the documents relating to the Death Lodge investigation unsealed. Holy Shit! :: how stunningly journalistic of them.
Here is the affidavit in support of the search warrant …
… I’ve highlighted the best bits in case you’re too busy admiring yourself in the mirror to read through the whole document.
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1. The Death Lodge consisted of eight rounds. Between each round the flap was opened and people could come in and out before more hot rocks were dumped into the center pit. He called the hot rocks “grandfathers” :: like you do :: and had all the delusional white people chanting shit in Native languages. Once the flap closed it was pitch black inside :: like Death Ray’s soul :: or like the “black insanity” you’d find yourself shitting if you went to Ray’s Modern Magick seminar and drank his mind {and poo} altering concoction of fuck knows what and fuck knows what.
2. After the 4th round people had to be removed :: one participant …
“… believed he was having a heart attack and believed he was going to die. He kept saying, “I don’t want to die, I don’t want to die.” Instead of summoning medical aid, James Ray stated “It’s a good day to die.“
Sure. Sounds reasonable.
3. James Shore :: one of the eventual victims :: helped others get out of the lodge to safety … but then went back in himself. He called attention to the unconscious {and “gurgling”} Kirby Brown :: and pleaded for help getting her out. None came. It also seems that it was Mr. Shore who was lifting up the back of the tent to allow more precious oxygen to creep in :: an act that likely would have prevented the deaths :: but that Mega-Prick James Ray had the audacity to call “sacrilegious.”
4. After the 8th round everyone exits. James Ray is feeling good. He goes and sits in the shade to contemplate his own greatness. James Shore :: Kirby Brown :: and Liz Neuman are all left on the floor of the death lodge.
Death Ray walks away.
5. Debra Mercer {whose husband built the lodge} pulled one body out the front. But needed to open up the back of the Lodge of Doom to pull out the other two bodies. Ray :: in obvious defiance of the dictionary :: also calls this an act of “sacrilege.”
6. The last four Spiritual Warrior events have all been epic fucking disasters ::
“I remember one man came out swinging and punched a woman! Soon after that he was rushed to a hospital VIA ambulance!”
Holy crazy town!
7. Ray told participants that they :: “Had to surrender to death to survive it” :: Umm what?
De-commence Numbering
Quoting The Arizona Republic
One of Ray’s attorneys stressed that the material only tells part of the story.
“We urge fair-minded people to await the revelation of all of the facts before reaching any conclusions,” Brad Brian said in a statement.
>> bleep bloop
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This is beyond disgusting. We knew it was bad, but I was in tears reading this. I just can’t get the picture of these people out of my head, and can clearly imagine what it must have been like for them that day.
They paid a lot of money and put their lives into the hands of a man they trusted, and were subjected to cult-like behavioral manipulation tactics that makes the early days of Jonestown look like Disneyland.
I can only console myself knowing that his career as a cult leader is finally finished. Everything he did was leading to the future deaths of hundreds of people, and now he can no longer fulfill his “destiny” to be the guy who killed the most people by manipulating them into doing it to themselves.
After reading this, I cannot imagine anyone deluding themselves into believing he had anyone’s best interests at heart.
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I believe it was a poster named Duff who pointed out that James Ray “stole” most of the techniques he uses from others, including Tony Robbins and Byron Katie.
If I’m not mistaken, his statement, “It’s a good day to die,” is a piece of dialogue taken from the film, “Flatliners.” I believe Kiefer Sutherland uttered that very line.
Could be a coincidence.
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RD Reply:
December 29th, 2009 at 10:21 am
“It’s a good day to die” is a famous quote of the Lakota chief Crazy Horse before the battle of the Little Big Horn … in the Lakota language “Hok-a-hey”.
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Yakaru Reply:
December 29th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Hippo,
“It’s a good day to die” was said by Crazy Horse in the battle of little Big Horn. (I only know that koz Robbie Robertson wrote a song about it and it’s the name of my favourite band – Crazy Horse.)
But Ray would’ve deliberately used it as a reference to his Native American credentials. That Ray would use that quote at such a time will no longer surprise anyone who’s been following the story here.
The document is worth a close read. This just gets worse with each new revelation. Words fail me.
Also, this entire thread on the Rick Ross forum gives a lot of detail about Ray’s manipulative techniques. I hope the investigators are looking closely at these aspects.
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,77450,page=30
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_cartman_ Reply:
December 29th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I have no doubt that is where he took it from. I would be shocked if Ray got it anywhere except from Flatliners, as he doesn’t appear to give a shit about facts (or skooling).
After his body cell energy remark (which he probably concocted from a combination of Matrix and stole from some other new age guru)…I doubt Ray is getting his material from skcool books or historical facts.
When questioned about Diana, the Princess of Wales, James Ray responded; “I don’t think that’s fair…dolphins should have a princess too” :)
Fuck me…my head hurts…
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Duff Reply:
December 29th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Even his dialogue is unoriginal. The man is fake through and through.
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Hippo Reply:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
This is to Duff:
I asked you on another thread, you probably didn’t see it, what you think of Byron Katie? I know she uses that homelessness exercise.
My apologies to Mr. Salty for the sidebar.
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That t-shirt is crazy… “Death to Death”??
As if James Ray could actually overcome death. He must be totally blinded to his own delusions.
Ryan
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Yakaru Reply:
December 29th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Well he overcame Colleen Conaway’s death quite successfully. I’m glad it got mentioned at all, but Colleen deserves to be more than a footnote to other criminal negligence charges.
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Yakaru Reply:
December 29th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
What I mean of course is that he should be charged with four counts of negligent homicide, as well as concealing a crime and giving misleading and falsified information – whatever that is in legal language. There’s enough concrete evidence for charges like that assembled here by Droid isn’t there?
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Steve Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 11:23 am
He advertises his bullshit for everyone to see. Did you see the pictures of his luggage? The man had prescriptions for supplements and other stuff that only a man fearing his imminent death would carry around with him.
I don’t have the link to the photos but if anyone does they have to share it. The amount of supplements the guy was taking was ridiculous and this is a man who some say would ask others not to even drink coffee?
What a piece of you know what.
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r Reply:
January 1st, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Here’s a link to those photos:
http://www.kpho.com/slideshow/news/22076434/detail.html
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Hippo Reply:
January 1st, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Dumb question:
Why didn’t Ray take his luggage with him when he fled back to California?
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Call me fucked in the head, but I had some time during the holidays, so I decided to take a look at James Ray, and see for myself just what this guy was saying.
I went through his Success Certain Coaching program–
http://jamesray.com/products/success-certain-coaching.php
his Collapse the world course…
http://jamesray.com/products/collapse-the-world.php
and his Harmonic wealth DVD…
http://harmonicwealth.com/index.php?c=main&m=movie&watch=about&utm_source=jrcom&utm_medium=site&utm_campaign=Store
To anyone freaking out over the idea that I forked over some money to this guy, relax. Of course I didn’t. As I’ve said before, this is 200-fucking-9. You can find anything within minutes.
I went through these three courses (which have since been flushed into “empty trash bin” nothingness), to see for sure what I was fairly certain of–that James Ray is nothing but a Johnny “me too,” regurgitating the principles taught by Robbins, Brian Tracy, Jim Rohn and others.
And, what I found is, this guy is almost a cartoon caricature carbon copy of two people–Anthony Robbins, and Bob Proctor. The benchmark principles he espouses are identical. All that is different is his idiotic examples he’s dreamed up to try to make his ramblings different from the others.
And, it is this idiotic copying of Robbins that has landed this asshole in hot water. Robbins has long since abandoned it, but one of the things he was famous for was his “fear into power” firewalk. Take a group of people, get them to walk over hot coals to show them their inborn ability to conquer their fears and prove that they have it in themselves to do things they once though of as impossible. Another staple of his earlier multi-day seminars was teaching people how to break boards with their hands. For the same purpose.
So Ray, sticking with his almost verbatim copying of Robbins’ teachings (very poorly, I might add–any notion that this guy is the next Robbins is just laughable), copied that aspect of Robbins’ teachings, but realized he needed to come up with his own unique examples (after all, if he had lame fire walking, it would be immediately seen as nothing but a Robbins rip off). So, he came up with the idea that people could conquer their fears, and show themselves they could do “amazing things” by enduring a sweat box. And, apparently, not only breaking boards, but even more awesome–BRICKS!!).
Taking those three courses, and hearing Robbins’ words throughout them, convinces me I’m right about this stain. All he is, is an unoriginal fuck who decided he was going to be another self help guru by boning up on the other gurus, and then regurgitating what they said in his own “voice”–with his own clumsy, stories, metaphors and examples.
And, let me add, Ray is a pathetic second rate copy of Robbins, Tracy, Proctor, and Rohn. He brought nothing new to the table. Other than death.
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Hippo Reply:
December 30th, 2009 at 12:20 am
That “firewalk” thing is bogus anyway.
It looks spectacular, and the “guru” tries to convince the participants that they kept themselves from getting burned due to the power of their minds, but in fact it’s a simple trick that has nothing to do with mind over matter.
And what if the person is so impressed with his ability to conquer his fears that he tries something completely foolhardy? Is over-confidence really the goal here?
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Wow! This absolutely sickens me! As someone who does believe in the law of attraction combined with action I cant believe how James Ray played God with these peoples lives! Can you say Jim Jones? Thats what this reminds me of.
He was told people were unconscious and he said they will be ok and he didn’t even care enough to go check on them. This is going to put him behind bars for a long time and will also bankrupt his company from deserving lawsuits. This guy is a scumbag of the worst kind!
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FGCT – good writing and analysis. Thanks.
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http://powip.com/2009/12/james-arthur-ray-emails-widow-just-in-time-for-the-holidays/
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Ray’s obsession with death seems straight out of Carlos Castaneda books which, as you may be aware, have been labeled as one of the largest literary hoaxes of the 20th century. Castaneda’s ficticious Don Juan talked about “facing death” constantly and used it to push his “apprentice” to use hallucinogenic plants.
Speaking of ethnobotany, does anyone know exactly what Ray was forcing people to ingest at his seminars? Have there been any toxicology tests of the event participants who became ill after drinking the “black,muddy drink”? If so, these need to be provided to the Yavapai County Sheriff’s Office. Someone who was defending Ray on one post said it was Kava Kava. I highly doubt it. From my knowledge of Kava Kava,it sounds far more serious,especially because it produced altered states of mind and because Ray himself appears to be a fan of many potions,powders and pills. Frankly, he looks drugged in every photo and video.
It seems highly probable that Ray could have brought from Peru the hallucinogenic vine,Ayahuasca which is currently quite “en vogue” among New Agers who seek the “ancient mystery path”.
Here are some quotes from the book, “A Hallucinogenic Tea, Laced with Controversy: Ayahuasca in the Amazon and the United States” by Marlene Dobkin de Rios and Roger Rumrrill:
“Improper use of the tea has skyrocketed, and many false Shamans have sprung up around the Countries. Countries don’t seem to mind, as the ‘drug tourism’ brings in much needed capital. Although Shamanism is dying out, the religion it professes has spread to many Western and Industrialized Nations, including the United States.”
“The sacrament has also drawn American drug tourists to South America to partake, say authors de Rios and Rumrrill. But they warn that these tourists are being put at risk by charlatans who are not true shamans or religious figures, just profiteers.”
Ray has made it clear, “I have been initiated into three shamanic orders from the Incan culture”. Could it be possible that a “charlatan who was not a true shaman or religious figure” in Peru have fooled our favorite “charlatan who is not a true shaman or religious figure” in the United States? Or did Jimmy boy not know or care if these guys were authentic, as long as he was getting high and stealing ideas on how to entice and control as many people as possible in order to get into their minds,bodies and bank accounts?
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