Silencing of the Lambs
A lot of citizens say that Bill Harris {product of The Secret Turd Factory} looks like the classic stereotype of a sleazy used car salesman. He’s bald but still uses a blow dryer :: his fat fat puffiness has been concentrated by rage into rock like density :: his breath stinks of coffee and pig balls :: he looks older than he is … bedraggled … worn out from years of hustling old ladies into Chevy’s that died as soon as they left the lot. Okay :: fair enough. But he could also pass as an unsuccessful evangelical revivalist who has been forced to take a job stocking shelves at Wal-Mart after an incident with a 16 year old boy and a Honda Civic.
Used-Car Bill sells a big sack full of shit called Holosync :: James Arthur Ray made Holosync a “mandatory” part of many of his seminars {and took a huge piece of the profits I’m sure}. Holosync is all over the schedule of the Spiritual Warrior DeathLodge event. The frauduct fits a depressing pattern that should be sounding all too familiar to readers of The Droid. Unqualified twat holds himself out as an expert :: offers a $2000+ product that will change your useless life overnight :: product is specifically aimed at a vulnerable demographic :: manipulative and aggressive marketing :: circle jerk {probably antitrust violating} cross promotions with other self proclaimed “gurus” :: aggressive suppression of dissent.
Bill Hairless meets ALL of my targeting standards :: and is just the sort of pretty lady I’m out hunting :: but he finds himself on the brink of a VERY FUCKING SERIOUS situation today because of his disgusting and unmanly repression of reasonable dissent.
Friend of the blog Duff McDuffee wrote a post about Bill Harris and Holosync this past November. It’s a great post :: and I recommended you read it. Bill “What’s it going to take to get you into this 2002 Chevy Tahoe today?” Harris certainly read it. He was so impressed that he decided :: as a first step :: to have his lawyer threaten to sue Duff if he didn’t take the post down.
Here’s the letter in all of its speech repressing non-glory …
… not cool {or ethical}. They demand that the post be removed :: a prominent retraction be posted to the first page of the site :: and “written assurance” be provided to the “law firm” that Duff will sin no more against Bill.
The King of Dicks followed up with this PURE THREAT email ::
Duff,
You have recently been served with a cease and desist letter regarding your defamatory and untrue post about me, Centerpointe, and Centerpointe’s products. My lead attorney has been in Europe and has just returned this morning and is waiting for my go-ahead to file a Federal suit against you for defamation. I’m sending you this email as a courtesy since we know each other, at least through correspondence.
Perhaps you do not realize the severity of the consequences for the defamatory statements you have made and how a Federal lawsuit to enforce those rights would work. The costs of such a suit will be huge, both financially and also in terms of time and stress. Legal fees for such a lawsuit can be, at minimum, over $150,000, the time commitment will be extensive, and the stress will be enormous. It will change your life in a way I suspect you will not like.
I am not itching to sue you, or anyone else. However, I can’t let you post untrue, scurrilous, and defamatory comments about me or my business. Some naive readers might believe you, and that effects my reputation, and it effects the livelihood of my employees.
I understand that for reasons of your own you don’t like me and you believe that Centerpointe products don’t work. You are welcome to your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to post your opinions online. However, you are not legally allowed to defame me or lie about me which you have done in a most egregious way.
So think this over, Duff. If you want to pursue this, we can. Such a legal action, however, is quite likely to consume your life and your bank account, and will be highly stressful. My reputation is important to me, and if I am forced to defend it in court , you’ll leave me no choice but to take this matter to the finish line. I respectfully suggest that you comply with the letter you received, put this behind you, and go on with your life.
My attorney is standing by awaiting my call. At this point you have a short time to decide what you want to do with the next several years of your life.
Look before you leap.
Be well.
Bill Harris CEO, Centerpointe Research Institute, Inc.
I’m not even going to address how ignorant and stupid that is until my “lead lawyer” gets back from awaiting my calls in London.
Notice that the threats are about how inconvenient :: stressful :: and life altering a lawsuit can be. There is absolutely ZERO substance :: they don’t even point to the facts or statements that they consider defamatory. That’s because he doesn’t give two shits about the merits of the case … his bogus practices couldn’t stand the scrutiny of the discovery process … and he has no intention of actually suing {if he did he’d go to a litigation firm and not some no-name corporate IP firm whose website still uses fucking frames}. He’s counting on the fact that 90% of people will back down from a legal threat … no matter how baseless it might be.
So far Duff has admirably refused to back down as Bill impolitely counted down his false deadline via a series of rude emails. The deadline of fake doom is set to run at end of business today. Will Duff take down the post? I hope not … but I’m going to make it irrelevant.
I issue the following open letter to Bill Harris :: CEO :: Centerpointe Research Institute
Dear Bill,
It has come to my attention that you royally suck. You have issued hollow and limp legal threats to a former customer {and genuinely nice guy} who had the audacity to suggest that people should think critically before dropping more than two thousand dollars on a bunch of useless 1980′s CD’s that are done cheaper {and better} by almost everyone else.
I understand that you’ve become accustomed to using threats to maintain absolute control over your completely contrived reputation. But the times … they are a changin’.
You have 24hrs to notify Andrew McDuffee that you have decided not to pursue legal action against him :: or you are going to have a MUCH more serious problem than one measly post by a mild mannered and fair minded gentleman. I WILL END YOU and your transparent fucking scam Bill Harris :: with elegance and ease. It will consume your life :: your bank account :: and it will be HIGHLY stressful {ask around}. Your deep {and probably intimate} connection to Bringer of Death of James Arthur Ray :: the obviousness of your swindle {including new FTC reg violating testimonial based sales} :: and the surface ugliness of your soul make you a low hanging fruit for an anti-scammer on a roll. Don’t fucking temp me … don’t.
Think this over Bill. Look before you leap.
24 hours.
You’ve got to ask yourself one question :: Do I feel lucky? :: Well … do ya punk?
Be well.
Droid, Esq.
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I think I got an email from Russel Brunson early in 2009 pimping this “Hollow sink” stuff.
They were pushing a free sample and some other crap, so I ordered it and never even listened to it. By the time I got the free sample I’d forgotten what it was and what it was supposed to be used for so I used the CD as a coaster for a few months until I threw it away.
So, in Bill’s defense, the CD is very useful. It makes a great coaster.
:-)
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Too funny. Talk about a mixed message. Nasty nasty, vague threats finished off with “Be well”. That kind of behavior will get you lots of new customers.
Will William the Great threaten to sue The Google The Internets for shining the light of knowledge and information on him?
Will he shrivel up into a cowering blob of quivering flesh while mumbling “blood, I just need a little blood”?
Will he attend a plastic sweat lodge hosted by his buddy DeathRay?
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Here’s James Ray’s custom affiliate page, right on Centerpointe.com’s servers still: http://www.centerpointe.com/free/ray108/
And here is Bill Harris in The Secret, in the infamous scene where he implies that victims of hate crimes “attracted” the abuse with negative thinking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG_NtUnJzc0
I wonder if Harris thinks that the sweat lodge victims attracted their fate as well? If only they would have thought more positively.
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I just found out that Holosync comes with instructions to not use more than 2x/day, except at a live seminar with Bill Harris. Did Harris approve or disapprove of James Arthur Ray using Holosync 3x/day at the Spiritual Warrior Event?
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Hmmm Reply:
December 30th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
That’s a 50% increase in dosage.
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LOSER!! ::
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SD Reply:
December 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
He’d better bring a double barrel shotgun and a grenade launcher … because I could care less about him and his cheese-dick two person “law firm.” I write about speech repressing assholes … a pester suit against me would be useful fodder for my awesomeness.
If he is actually making money off of this Hollow Stink {and people tell me he is} :: then he should be having a massive case of diarrhea today. I can {and will} cut his revenue by 20% within 3 weeks :: and over the course of a year … he can be eliminated … just like any other scammer.
Lies can’t fight the truth … it’s never even a contest.
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collow shtink Reply:
May 26th, 2010 at 8:20 am
@SD,
5-6 months later…
thanks for putting a dent into this scam, guys. i was actually honestly thinking of ordering this crap some time ago. life’s been tough and i started looking into meditation again. (i will always believe pure simple silent meditation is helpful – not magical, not easy, and one of the subtlest and gradual forms, but it still has effect – after years of practice, and at cost of Zero Dollars, Zero Cents) can’t believe i was almost bought by their sweet sales talk.
just the fact that it’s a TM and not a patent technology should have the warning bells going off all over the place.
so i go to their website, find the buried article quoting “science” – and read it. fragmented, out of context, pseudo-sophisticated phrases taken from 20-30 years ago scientific magazines. with similar effort one could justify anything else a human ever conceived of.
wow. what a load stink. and still sells.
btw, whoever still believes it – don’t be passive – get their free disk, get on the ceaseless marketing list for all of self-betterment heavy industry – they need to eat and wear that 3-piece suit too.
thanks guys for reinforcing my scepticism and awareness.
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SD Reply:
May 26th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
@collow shtink ::
You’re most welcome :: one point for the good guys!
… oh and Bill Harris :: BiteMe!
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Wow…that is VERY aggressive. Ordering someone to cease “disparaging remarks” and demanding that a negative article be removed? This is NOT the 1950s, and McCarthy is not in charge.
You have to wonder if he spent much time considering the massive negative publicity this could quickly erupt into.
Have fun with the droid, Bill.
And more power to you, Duff!
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So, that lawyer, Christy O. King (who actually signed that letter) is the author of “First Amendment and Censorship” as noted in her bio here:
http://www.dubofflaw.com/directory/cok.html
The firm’s bio includes this notation: “The DuBoff Law Group is a small law firm based in Portland, Oregon.”
Now that Bill has the droid on his pants leg, he might want want to add at least a couple of zeros to his legal budget next year (which, if I understand accounting correctly, can simply be deducted from the profit column).
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Dude, love what your doing and love this site, adding you to my blog roll.
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Damn Salty, hang those big brass ones out on the door frame…
If he does bring a grenade launcher and shotgun, lemme know. I’ll fly home for a good scrap.
By the way, Death-Ray’s link to Holosync is still alive, even though the video testiMOANial (sorry _cartman_) is gone. Found this site with a glowing e-mail: http://bit.ly/7jMgOi
You know, my third career is going to be actively helping folks deal with ass-wipes like this. Baseless threats, inflated ego, penis envy, etc…
Hang in there Duff, you guys are fighting the good fight.
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Something tells me that William the Great is restricting his market to those who do not know how to use The Google. Could he threaten to sue himself for causing himself to lose market share?
Maybe he should chill out, listen to some holosync ™ a few times a day or something. Have heard that it like totally Zen, or something.
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Bill Hairis’ web site actually refers to his “product” as: “The lazy man’s way to meditate.”
I’d contend that if you’re lazy, you’re ALREADY meditating! And for FREE!
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What the hell is on with the people who were included in the pathetic movie the secret. The lot of them are a bloody disgrace to society. That guy in Australia who is supposed to be a wealth expert is apparently really deep in shit right now and no doubt its only just starting. What sort of idiot would crap on about being a wealth creation expert when he cant even pay his basic debts when its clear as dogs balls that he is so NOT wealthy. Now they are crapping on about having faith and trying to make people believe they are God on earth. The only people needing to study faith are these idiots who know they have done so much wrong that they are going to need to understand what faith is to make it through the scrutiny and expose due on them. They irritate me and I am visualising massive debts and horror for the new year for all of these people. They are evil minded greedy bastards who prey on innocent people and that deserves royal treatment.
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RD Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Pathetic for sure … outrageous, insidious and conspiratorial as well … the legal shenanigans such as the Bill Harris threats are predictable. Ultimately they are just going to self-combust while we all watch it go down.
David Schirmer exerts some legal maneuver and successfully pulls all videos of expose by Australian TV’s ‘A Current Affair’ off of youtube, etc and replaces them with his own propaganda. This guy is beyond bizarre and you can still see them here:
http://vimeo.com/4325210
Bob Proctor sues David Schirmer to distance himself from the bad press … doesn’t want to soil himself with Schirmer’s shit …. court document here:
http://www.schirmerexposed.co.nr/docs/Schirmer_Court_Order_20080325.pdf
Joe Vitale’s dangerous group hypnotic marketing detailed in the book by South African author Newton Fortuin discussed in detail (pages 5-7) including multiple references to James Ray, Oprah and other pariah. See the book here:
http://www.newfort.co.za/scourge.pdf
Jack Canfield founder of ‘Transformation Leadership Council’ quietly removed James Ray from their membership … another case of …. hmmm … a bit like hogs in a pen trying to stay clear of the dirty hogs lest they get any dirtier themselves. See the announcement here:
http://bizsayer.com/tag/transformational-leadership-council/
This is just some of the public info on the net … really interesting and utterly sick move that Ray made was promoting and selling his ‘Spiritual Warrior 2010′ gig to his $60K a year audience at his ‘World Wealth Society’ get-together 2 weeks after the death-sweat event!!!
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Yakaru Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Thanks for the Schirmer stuff!!! I was looking all over for another copy of it after he got it deleted from you tube.
The same bloke who put those up also posted the video I was especially looking for – the classic one where Schirmer locks himself in the toilet to evade questions about his scamming.
http://vimeo.com/4820117
And here’s a link suggesting that Schirmer’s brother (and former “business partner”) seems to be even more disturbed than he is. Quite a family.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/qld/QCA/1995/242.html?query=schirmer
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Adding the “e” at the end of the word “centerpointe” makes the word and center “center” look and seem like something high class and legitimate.
If they had called the place “Bull’s Eye, where I’ve placed your wallet Research Institute” it gives the “center” a totally different allure.
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Looks like times up! How sad :: and so it begins.
I think my first post about him will have him marrying James Ray :: he’ll be in the dress of course :: since he’s so obviously the bitch.
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Let’s take bets.
I’m betting on Bill Harris powering down your motor.
We will see you crying for mama soon enough.
Go for it little robot.
Give it your best shot.
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froylein Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Scared?
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Think Again Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
What you’re forgetting, loudmouth, is this:
The Droid is cunning, has a law degree, lots of time and energy, and a driving mission. He also has a following and a platform. The smart bet is on that, over even a whole team of overpaid attorneys draining their client’s bank account, any day.
Let’s see if Bill Harris really wants to push the exascerbate button.
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absolutely nameless Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 6:45 pm
You should’a done your due diligence on the guy first, J. Or asked around.
All Bill’s got is several million bucks, a private jet, all the time in the world and a mean disposition.
Unlike you, I’ve hung out with the guy.
He’s scary.
I mean, like real-life scary. Not silly pictures and false bravado scary.
Gonna miss ya, dude.
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froylein Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Deja vu anybody?
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Think Again Again Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 7:53 pm
People with “several million bucks” typically prefer to not needlessly give up a hunk of that several million bucks. Certainly not for nothing in return but a big pile of negative publicity that might linger for years and impair their future income potential. And you’ve “hung out with the guy?” Is your name Renfield? Obviously, you don’t know the Droid very well. Threats are like vitamins to him.
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SD Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 7:55 pm
@nameless ::
Things not useful in a PR War against a truth teller ::
1. A million bucks.
2. Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
3. Meanness
The silly pictures and bravado are as real-life as it gets. I’m going to use them to expose him as a mean and vile charlatan who had a long and profitable partnership with a homicidal maniac :: and as a disgusting hypocrite whose products should never be purchased … by anyone … anywhere … at any price. All of his fake money … every mother fucking thing about his fake life … all on the line.
What’s he going to do to me? Breathe on me? Pull my pigtails? Take a big mean bite out of my $0 revenue stream? Make it so I forget how to tell jokes?
So best of the luck to the fat :: bald :: liar. I’ll take all bets … and I’ll give 10/1
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completely nameless Reply:
January 1st, 2010 at 11:40 am
I’ll take those odds.
but i doubt if i’ll collect. you’d have to do something actionable to get his attention. i suspect you’ll skate just this side of libel per se.
if he’s smart, he’ll just forward your blog archive to the bar ethics committee.
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SD Reply:
January 1st, 2010 at 5:15 pm
@nameless ::
You’re mostly wrong again.
1. You won’t collect.
2. Of course I’d have to do something actionable … and I won’t. Defamation means I report something as fact that I KNOW to be untrue … which would be wrong and stupid of me for all sorts of reasons that have nothing to do with defamation.
3. I’m not “skating just this side” :: I’m intentionally getting nowhere near. I point :: almost exclusively :: to facts that can be proved based on info available to everyone at the time of the writing. I have lots of good stories :: confirmed by multiple reliable sources :: that I refuse to run because no public evidence is available. It’s daft fucking cunning :: and I’ve been doing it since day one.
4. He’s obviously NOT smart. Once your ego gets to size X-Large :: you go blind to reason :: and your core intelligence level becomes irrelevant.
5. The ethics committee would decline to evaluate my blog :: because my license is in “inactive” status :: and I haven’t paid my dues in four years. Jason is a world class lawyer for The Salty Droid project :: otherwise he wants nothing to do with lawyers and their bullshit.
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M Reply:
January 24th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I agree that Bill Harris has a mean disposition.
He’s a jerk.
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Pat O'Bryan OUTED Reply:
May 26th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
For anyone wondering, the commenters on this page, “bye droid” and “absolutely nameless” as well as “completely nameless” are almost certainly one person: Pat O’Bryan (Joe Vitale’s little pet grubworm). I don’t want to reveal the reasons why I’m 99.999999999% certain of it, but I’d BANK on it.
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thanks Reply:
May 26th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
@Pat O’Bryan OUTED, thanks good to know. Lots of pissed off cunts. PatRunPatRun while you still have a chance. I know the 3 gigs a week for beer money, living in a run down trailor, with a car hanging on for deer life LIFE sucked, but it BEATS being Big Earl’s bitch in prison!
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See the commentary under the heading, “Scum of the Minute” on this page:
http://www.skepdic.com/news/newsletter109.html#10
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[...] can see the full text of THAT letter here, about midway through this post on SaltyDroid. And I must say, the tone is not at all what I’d expect from a personal development guru. [...]
[...] are others out there as well, please check them out for the full story) regarding the wonderful Bill Harris, Genpo, and The Secret™, I thought I might need to clarify myself a bit, before I get lumped in [...]
Check out these forum comments. Someone commented that last year “Centerpointe” was projecting a net profit of “$18 million” for this year, and Bill Harris was at that time “currently in Tibet being initiated as a Buddist Monk.”
If that is true, one has to ask: is that letter above (from Harris) something that anyone could EVER imagine being written by someone with the mindset and belief system of a Buddhist monk?
Here’s the cached forum page (read and grab it while it’s still available):
http://snipurl.com/txjzv
Original page (not currently available):
http://hypnotica.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17363&sid=ebf79af7d52bbf8a056fbe1c2bf083ba
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Simon's Head Reply:
December 31st, 2009 at 6:28 pm
According to Markus Allen, Harris was being initiated into the Jebbie Masonic Trilateral Commission of Bilderbergers at the Bohemian Grove. The Buddhist monk story was just a cover.
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So is Bill Harris really a “therapist” or just another “marketer?” This article (link below) seems to emphasize that he is a marketer. Says he started in his basement with borrowed recording equipment in 1989, when he was making just $30,000 a year.
http://www.insidesuccessradio.com/GuestPage1.php/Bill-Harris
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SD,
Thanks for staying with both the James Ray & Bill Harris stories.
I saw the picture you posted on the James Ray schedule, above. Would you post more pics from the Yavapai County Sheriff’s James Ray investigation? For a guy who tells participants to stop their medications, he travels with what looks like a fully stocked pharmacy.
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Duff Reply:
January 2nd, 2010 at 6:06 am
Cassandra Yorgey has been slowly leaking the (now public) photos of the crime scene on her blog here:
http://www.examiner.com/x-11245-Philadelphia-Speculative-Fiction-Examiner~y2010m1d1-Breaking-News-James-Ray-International-Event-Matrix
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http://bhucinc.com/index.php
I couldn’t make this shit up.
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Check out the list of “Questionable Organizations” on the Quackwatch web site:
http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/nonrecorg.html
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It’s fascinating that this Christy King of the Duboff Law Firm appears to have worked for the very litigious Applied Kinesiology promoter and Columbia Pacific Diploma Mill alumnus David Hawkins.
I first learned of Hawkins when Wayne Dyer pimped him on PBS. I’m surprised litigiousness ranks so highly on the Consciousness Scale. Haven’t heard of that? David Hawkins invented it.
Info about Hawkins’s antics on Wikipedia and King’s involvement (“Did you write nasty things about me on Wikipedia? Well, remove them! I mean, if you wrote those things. You kind of write like the person who did.”)
http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/2007/09ap-davidhawkins.html
A very illuminating thread about Hawkins the Cult Education Forum:
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,13156,page=1
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[...] before Bill Harris was threatening to sue the blogosphere into silence :: He was running his fat disgusting mouth in service of James Arthur [...]
[...] to be outdone, the Salty Droid wrote three posts regarding Bill Harris, starting out with “Silencing of the Lambs.” As you will no doubt find, the Droid is quite the direct robot, he starts out calling [...]
Bill Harris –
Wow that name brings back bad memories. About 15 years ago, I bought one of his “The End” tapes from an ad in Psychology Today magazine.
With that purchase came “phone support.”
When I called Bill Harris for phone support, he was abusive. Then when I returned his product, the SOB charged me a restocking fee just to piss me off. He claimed it was because he wasted time on the phone with me.
Even after 15+ years I have never forgotten what an outright jerk Bill Harris was and how badly I, as a customer, was treated.
Bad kharma, Harris. Glad to see others are on to this guy.
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Hmmmm….do you suppose the poor victims in Haiti attracted the devastating earthquake?
Had they bought The Secret or Harris’ products, then maybe no earthquake???
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I was served by his legal twats, The Duboff Law Group, twice upon a time.
I said fuck off Bill and then I told Duboff to fuck off too.
And you know what? They fucked off.
Then I fucked them some more, but I’m not sayin’ how. ;-)
Love the picture SD.
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so if someone says they will sue you and they do this in writting, would this then be a contract, and if they failed to even attempt the suit, couldn ‘t you sue them for breach of contract?
just a thought,
Sean
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[...] public relations nightmare for Team Scam. During the same period :: Bill Harris was having his lame asshole lawyers threaten Duff with a defamation [...]
I am also an ex customer and I agree with every thing you are stating and admire your stance. So far it looks that every (actor) of the secret are scammers, they first do the movie the call it a documentary then they try to rope in as many people as possible with the help of google in finding ” the missing ingredient” bill has gone way far by making so many false claims and using his cohesive techniques to get repeat business, and get all his friends to solicit business with the address that you used when signing up. And what about the “silent affirmations” I am generally not one to fall for these things but I guess you could say I got scammed pretty good since I went back three times and only after ” the second deeper level” I figured out is was a scam and went back to my primordial sound meditation which cost $0 which provide all the benefits of meditation that holosync claims to provide and clearly just robs your pockets. Thanks for providing a forum to vent. Peace
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