The Salty Droid World Cup
This epic poem ingeniously disguised as an idiotic blog is about modern ConMen. About how they are using the power and beauty of mankind’s greatest invention to dramatically expand the reach of their destruction. The media is part of the problem :: and government enforcement is all but nonexistent. Vulnerable victims are having their lives ruined :: and people are dying. It’s a very serious and somber situation.
On the other hand :: I seriously love soccer! First World Cup in Africa :: all the games in HD :: America in a winnable group :: Italy’s team is total rubbish :: everything is looking sweet. Horah!!
Think I’m not robot enough to blend such disperate interests into a flavorful entertainment taco? Well you’re WRONG :: per the usual.
Introducing the SaltyDroid World Cup. Each team is assigned a useless parasite. The winning team gets glory and the World Cup :: the corresponding parasite gets a nice long stay at the top of my fucking list {I hear it’s lovely}. The runner-up gets a set of steak knives {snidely drops knives to floor}.
Here are the teams :: in order of their chances to win …
winner :: loses
Spain — Joe Vitale :: winner of the long running “Who’s Next” poll … deserver of jail time and face slaps. Spain is so good that Mikel Arteta has never even made an appearance! Joe has a lot to think about :: I hope he doesn’t wet himself.
Brazil — Jeff Walker :: let’s face it … he’s gonna get it anyway.
Argentina — Eben Pagan :: Debbie needs to learn new skills quick :: because her conning days are coming to a close.
England — ~~position still available~~
Holland — Tony Quinn :: Is he man or muppet?
Germany – Tony Robbins :: Me vs. You big guy. I have no fear … and you have no standards or value.
Italy – Michael Beckwith :: Prophet of turd.
France — John Reese :: a loser already on his way out. Still :: he could use a head butt.
Portugal — Jack Canfield :: whose lukewarm soups are laced with poison.
Ivory Coast — Elephants :: they’re so cute! Living as families … mourning their dead … having trunks. Plus how adorable are the babies? Too adorable! They must be stopped.
Serbia — Abraham-Hicks :: maybe they aren’t guilty of ethnic cleansing … but they are surely guilty.
Mexico — Wealth Masters International :: the wealth is fake … but the price is very real.
Chile — Kevin Trudeau :: lives in my city so we could meet for tea and cake.
USA — The U.S. House of Representatives :: root cause of most problems. Hypocrites :: egoists :: and power hungry fuck balls. I’ll take my team winning as a sign that God will protect me in this battle.
Paraguay — John Carlton :: supports Harlan Kilstein … bad idea.
Uruguay — Dr. Phil :: wanna have a straight talk contest chubs?
Cameroon – Jason Moffatt :: too easy.
South Africa — SANG :: I know what you did last summer.
Ghana — Marci Shimoff :: you can’t hide behind that make-up. But no Michael Essien … so I wouldn’t worry about it.
Denmark — CopyBlogger :: yeah … that’s right … watch me.
Nigeria — Byron Katie :: the wicked witch of the East and the West.
Australia — Ed Dale :: IPOs R’ Us
Greece — Goldman Sachs :: mother fuckers and their mother fucking bullshit. To think about it … is to have your head explode. Tar + Feathers = Justice
South Korea — John Chow :: Proving that not all Asians are smart {or cute like little lady bugs}.
Switzerland — Mike Dillard :: his come-upins are long overdue … but he’s just so boring.
Slovakia — Oprah :: too rich to have standards.
Slovenia — Yanik Silver :: maybe I’ll join his mastermind.
Japan — Nitro Marketing :: droppin’ an A-bomb on the Nitro.
Algeria — Alex Mandossian :: people wearing glasses can be dirt bags too.
Honduras – Transformational Leadership Council :: the heart of mother fucking darkness.
North Korea — Glen Beck :: may his testicles get caught in a zipper.
New Zealand – Red China :: fortunately it’s only a 2000 to 1 shot because my master plan for bringing down China’s oppressive regime is not yet fully formulated.
List not final until Saturday :: one strong position still available :: suggestions?
>> bleep {GO AMERICA!!!} bleep
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I nominate Drew Miles — the clown who pitches asset protection schemes at guru seminars. Hangs out with people like Matt Bacak and Shawn Casey. Gets his street cred by showing tax code sections on a PowerPoint and explains them through interpretative verbal kabuki dance. An IRS raid of his files would probably send half the gurus on your list into hiding.
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
@Tax Savings My Ass ::
… very interesting.
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England -- Dan Raine. Ed Dale / John Reese / Frank Kern’s buddy from Manchester England.
http://www.immediateedge.com/
http://www.15kchallenge.com/
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
@Ed who? ::
Yeah that’s a good one. What a wanker!
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Slovenia — Yanik Silver – Oh, c’mmon. That little peaceful alpine country doesn’t deserve a turd representative like Mr. “Watch me barf bullshit” Silver. I’ve been there, trust me…
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
@Bo ::
Slovenia only has to put up with him during this fake contest :: we have to live with him.
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Bo Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
@SD, Well, when you put it that way :)
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Most of the perps here I understand. Not sure about CopyBlogger. Do tell.
Glen Beck, ok, but not without Keith Olbermann.
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
@Dave ::
Well if you want to hear me rant about CopyBlogger :: then I guess you’re rooting for Denmark.
But while you’re waiting :: why don’t you read Sonia shilling for a Jeff Walker opt-in …
http://www.copyblogger.com/connect-the-dots/
… play connect the dots. Funny :: that’s the game I play.
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Max Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
@SD, I don’t know what Brian Clark (Mr. “Copyblogger”) would say about that, but any one of his egos would probably disagree until the cows came home.
He’s a real condescending [insert term other than "person" here]. If you disagree with him in a comment and provide any rational response, he may just say, “You know, I just don’t think blog is the place for you.”
Brian Clark doesn’t take well to non-Brian Clark worshippers.
The only good thing about his blog, which is now on maximum boring autopilot, is that it features even less of him and his monumental ego(s).
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This has been the first thing that I’ve seen that’s actually got me interested in the World Cup!
Loving the list of suspects, so I’m looking forward to your round up of events (both from the game, and then from your analysis of the chosen perpetrator).
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
@Nikki ::
… soccer FTW! Even if you don’t like the sport :: who can resist socially acceptable nationalism? Not me.
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Oh my. I am going to enjoy the aftermath out here for sure.
So how do we get someone in there for jolly ol’ England? Maybe find the douchebag with the biggest published lie about earnings? Most deaths in a sweatlodge? Most successive product launches?
Aw, who cares – let the games begin! Woot!
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
@Articulayers ::
Woot! indeed.
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For anyone who didn’t pick up on Salty’s above reference to Joe Vitale not “wetting himself,” here’s the background thread with the story behind that:
http://snipurl.com/un0jf
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
@Dryer ::
… trickle down economics.
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Glad to see that Oprah and Byron Katie are mentioned. The former, for not standing for the truth about those who she sold to an unwitting public, after people started dying. The latter, because that’s where my journey OUT began. That particular spider almost had this fly. Lucky me.
Thanks for helping in my escape.
DQ
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
@Dave Q ::
Ms. Katie really does have that special something something. I’m glad she didn’t get to suck out all your juices through your eye holes.
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Hippo Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 9:41 am
@SD,
I almost fell for Byron Katie myself. She’s no James Ray, but I am glad to see her get mentioned here.
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stoic Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
@Hippo,
Be glad you got away, ole Ms Katie is in a different league of slickness to James Arthur Ray, she may just be the Meitreya, according to her fans, who are Legion.
A far more polished performer.
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Huh NZ 2000 – 1 get a life ! You may get a surprised when we get out of the first round. ( but yeah thats about it ) I have been reading this blog for hours LOL nice work Droid. Some stomper info did work if you used it! but yeah the service was really really average. I had better service from a $2 Webhost when a support ticket was raised.
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
@Yoga guy ::
I would be very surprised indeed :: but I’m rootin’ for ya cause of how much I love Bret and Jemaine …
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England: Brad Fallon…just because I like to see you rag on him.
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SD Reply:
June 11th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
@hilarious ::
These are auditions to become a new character in the play. No one on the list has been named as a category yet. Once you make it on the playbill … all hope is lost.
Brad {in diapers and a tie} is already one of the stars of the show.
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hilarious Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
@SD, oh! my mistake. in that case, i’m hoping eben pagan “wins.” or elephants. fuck elephants.
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Muerte al Cabrones Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 10:15 am
@hilarious,
Not sure if they do a lot of cocaine in England… so not the best choice for Brad.
He’s more of a “Columbia” since he has so much in common with the “growers” down there.
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Nominated by email ::
Monks Gone Wild
http://www.hoodiemonks.org/PenneyArchive.html
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http://www.affiliatedotcom.com/jv/ the syndicate talks to their affiliates, see 2 minutes into ir mikey orders the peons to not sell their crap when he does then talks of how you have seen this before yes you have it is the same thing over and over again same shit don’t need to be a poo expert to spot the poo the people who promote these things are at the bottom of the food chain trying to get some crumbs wonder if maria will be in vegas again? Tell us Mikey? Or false hopes not achieved mean she is on the out? Notice he has jenkins “consulting” on this one which means he has Kern “consulting” on this one. Even Mikey is getting smaller. All the guru launches have jeknins as a consultant and he is simplely a kern peon all kern provies is his buddy reese getting smaller smaller and walker and cornies to put it on their calendar to email out.
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Outlier Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 11:04 am
@mikefilsaimeinder,
Didn’t he retire from selling internet marketing courses forever (for like the 3rd time?) I thought he was moving into software only? Or as he calls it “software as a service”…
This looks like an internet marketing course to me…
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You need some good Hindu fauxru in the mix. I nominate Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. He’s every bit as scammy as anyone else on the list, and he does it all by convincing poor dolts that he is God incarnate. What other con artiste on your list does that?
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Hippo Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
@jody,
What about Deepak Chopra? Maybe Mr. Salty will consider a Shankar-Chopra exacta.
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jody Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
As much as I loathe Chopra and his attempts to woo-wooify anything he comes near, he’s not claiming to be more divine than the rest of us. Thus, he’s not positing himself as a source of miracles, as Sri Sri, or the other bigtime gurus like Ammachi, Sai Baba, Kalki Bhagavan, Sri Kaleswar, or Swami Nithyananda, among many, many others. These folks are in a special class of scamster, the specially “divine,” capable of performing miracles on your behalf. Rather than take your money to teach you how to perform your own miracles, these folks take your money and promise to perform the miracles for you. There should be two or three of them on this list, for my money.
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Feather Boa-Constricter Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
@jody, I feel you on this point, but…he does parade out in his Liberace sunglasses like he is the Bono of personal development while trying to make a mockery of actual science (which he’s supposed to be some sort of expert on, himself):
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=deepak+chopra+debate
And I say this as someone who really liked his books for a long time, until he started looking like an idiot celebrity wannabe.
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Universal American InnerNational Association Of Society Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
<—- Deepak OWNED! LMAO
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Feather Boa-Constricter Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
@Universal American InnerNational Association Of Society, BWAHAHAHA!!! That made my week!!
Cosmic Connie Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
@jody is right about the Eastern gurus. Kalki (or Kracki) in particular comes to mind for me, maybe because I know a couple of folks who got sucked into that whole Oneness/Deeksha scam. Anyway, I believe Chopra is already one of the stars of this show so he doesn’t qualify for the Cup.
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With this post, we’ve all won. But I would totally love to see Deep-Pockets Chopra, John Assaraf, or Mark Joyner given a World Cup cookie laced with reality.
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brad fallon knows his customers make no money. stompernets are losers so he sells to them by telling them that he knows they make no money but for 5 thousand more dollars they can go to his boot camp and spend more money on him, why does no one make money from the gurus and the gurus know that and just sell same old shit over and over this seo pro is just like product launch manager just like main street marketing all this crap is all the same and the dummies by one and make no money so buy another mikey told me they were idiots most never even open the pakcage and the gurus leach on them like bloodsuckers bradly is scum:
http://seopro.stompernet.com/join/
Bradly when are you going to PAY the money you OWE?
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stoic Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
@mikefilsaimeinder,
Its like those exercise bikes we all bought one time or another and only used as a clothes horse. Dreaming about getting on the bike was so much easier than doing it. The guru’s know this, so do we really.
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 12th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
@stoic,
I believe the big difference is…the bike does what it is supposed to do, if you actually end up using it…their “opportunities”…. not so much…
These guys are now even “theoretically” inept….
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“Let’s say the average client pays you $1000 (a bottom-rate fee). That client will continue paying you every single month. That’s $12,000 per client.
Now let’s say you get just ONE client a month… we’re talking about $144,000 year.” -Brad Foolin
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http://seopro.stompernet.com/join/
If you get just one client per month…..lets calculate…
The first client would be $12K (the whole year)
The second client would be $11K (11 months)
The third client would be $10K (10 months)
The twelfth person would be $1K (1 month)
and at the end of 1 year that’s $78K (54% of his inept CONstruct)….while that is a nice theoretical income….good luck getting 12 people to part with $1K a month (to begin with)…and if some do…once they find out that what you promised them the first month, doesn’t materialize…they ain’t sticking around (other then in the above theoretical CONstruct)
I examined some of the highest searched terms, and videos who happened to rank organically for those terms (these are significant terms with extremely high monthly searches)…and first page ranking did nothing to drive significant traffic to their videos and even less to their site. Most of the crap these guys espouse, simply isn’t true…their metrics are misrepresented to the point of being outright fraudulent….
Just recently Mike Fleecme claimed to have made 100K (in affiliate commissions) on Kern’s list control…that program was 2K with 50% commissions….it was presented to a list of who knows how many 10′s of 1000′s (possibly a boatload more because Fleecme harvests email addresses from affiliates through his pay site and his “Kangaroo” site, these are people who eat this stuff up), he could only get 100 people to buy the program (and that is assuming he is NOT overstating about how much he made)….
butt…I love the guarantee….
“Otherwise, you will receive a CHEERFUL 100% refund. No questions asked. No hassles. And you have up until the very minute of the last day to decide.”
…I love those 0 second money back guarantees…..
you can attend the entire program….butt…if you do…then you can’t ask for your money back….because you only get up until just before the program ends to ask for your money back
WINNER!! ::
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stoic Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 2:25 am
@_cartman_,
You’ll get no argument from me, _cartman_. I must have bought at least three exercise bikes at various times before I resurrected what maths I remember and applied it to the claims of moronic wealth.
WINNER!! ::
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Outlier Reply:
June 14th, 2010 at 12:50 am
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LOSER!! ::
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June 14th, 2010 at 1:11 am
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 14th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
@Outlier,
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“Also… I’d be really interested to hear more in detail your vague comments about search traffic not being worth it to the people who used it. What exactly was your examining technique?”
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In one point where I am “questioning” his lack of veracity (by what is nothing less then mathematical idiocy), I am too technical…in another where I am disseminating the insignificant traffic that comes from ranking on page 1 isn’t all that is claimed…I am to vague?
As to how I come to my conclusions…well…I channel the business division of the universal mine….and…I examine traffic from the search term….Apparently “we” did not see the fact that I have a DETAILED comment with a full explanation of my “examining technique”? Even though that detailed examining techniques predates your comment by 8 months.
My EXTREMELY detailed comment on how I did this can be seen at http://saltydroid.info/iron-klad-kilstein/ . It was done with a very high searched term (home based business). I have done it with other terms as well…but I just never shared more then one…I don’t see the point….I’m not here to teach people to make millions…if you want to make millions…buy my report “How to make 50K per month selling a report on how to make 50K per month selling fruity weaponry”
If you feel the need to “discuss” this topic further, provide a real life example of what you claim, and I will check the data (if at all possible)…don’t allude…I don’t want to hear about alludsions…
Update from my very “VAGUE” comment….
Taking the example (provided in the kilstein thread) up to today’s date…..
In oct ’09 the video had 1741 views from the search term – home based business -
As of todays date the video (still on page 1 of google) has 1919 views from the search term – home based business -
Less than 180 views in 8 months for a term which averaged about 673,000 local searches a month.
AND an FYI…vipsearch.us (the site “connected” to that video…allowed to expire and not yet renewed) is alexa ranked at 9.9million which would indicate no traffic at all to the site (from youtube or elsewhere).
A video ranking on page one of google for a term that was searched more then 4.8Million (5.384million to be exact+ global searches…butt…I don’t want to get to technical for you) times in the past 8 months, and it received less then 180 views in that time ….gee…I don’t fucking KnoW…sounds pretty worthless to me…but I have fucking higher standards….
I also disseminated the “reality” behind the video with 166 million views (charlie bit my finger) on warrior forum, while the forum “theoreticians” were contemplating the millions they could be making selling a product using the video…and stating how the video owner should sell something…..I pointed out he was/is (fucking RPFM’s there too) selling shirts…and unsuccessfully I would add…anything else?
As for me being vague….well…i’m just not very repetitive….I have better things to do with my time then convince someone who WANTS to believe in something, that they are wrong. I merely provide the information, and how people use it is up to them…and if someone chooses to focus on minutia (because of some ulterior motive), well that’s their choice….
As to how I approach a subject…well….I don’t give a rats ass (except at the BYORA barbecue) if you do NOT believe me, because I was apparently to vague in one of my comments….and you decided to use RPFM analysis, in order to further your agenda (those wondering about my “obsession” with RPFMs…well when I was in the Serengeti…I was mentally abused by a gang of RPFM’s…but that’s a story for another time…and it hurts when I have to bring shit like that up from the anals of my mind…)…
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Lastly… getting people to pay 1k/mo is really not that hard when you are providing them a service. (Look at the guru’s they can get that from offering complete shit).
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What? That’s crazy! Whether or not the product is shit is a moot point. Anybody buying either product (yours or the complete shit) doesn’t know (or feel) that either product is complete shit (and there is no COMPLETE SHIT disclaimer), or they wouldn’t buy it to begin with.
The ‘gurus’ offers (as are being disgust on this site) come with grandiose promises/guarantees of what the product/service can accomplish. So the only difference (in the eyes of any perspective client) is the lack of any bullshit ‘guarantees’. So how you can claim getting $1k/month from someone is easy (since guru’s sell their complete shit using grandiose claims), is beyond me…
PS – logical reasoning….please…you have some nerve to use a term like logical…
WINNER!! ::
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Outlier Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 1:02 am
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
@Outlier,
“I’m not saying it’s easy to sell someone a product that will “show them how to make money on the internet”… I’m saying as a service based business, if you can prove and demonstrate results than it’s not impossible to get that potential client. If it’s so difficult explain why Yodle.com is growing as a business? (69$/mo for PPC, 500$/mo for SEO). Sign up for a conference call with one of their sales reps, and they will show you how many people are willing to pay this. (Unless they are part of the conspiracy too…. which I’m sure they are.)
Let me see if I have this right….besides “presuming” they are growing, you really didn’t provide anything but salsay that is hearsay (as in rumor, not to be confused with hearsay evidence) from salespeople…it’s catchy. You do realize that a SALES rep may have a “slight” conflict of interest(apparently you do, as noted by the “conspiracy” comment). I do find it curious that;
“For each Referral* to Yodle, Yodle will pay $200 to qualified individuals”
but…
“For example, Yodle claims that a $1 ad spend can result in an $8 return. ”
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/11/27/yodles-money-call/
Now..riddle me this….why would yodle.com pay such high referral fees ($200 on a $500/mth advertising budget), if their SEO techniques &PPC “strategies” are so good?…so at $200 a referral it’s cheaper then their techniques….interesting…
http://www.superiorpestcontrollv.com/
http://www.piemontelaw.net/
They show two sites (I presume it’s their “clients”) and the address they show in their mockup site, is the address for another pest control site with the same name in another state. Nice rankings by the way 20,000,000+ & unranked (personally I thought the site was pretty rank)…wow 20M, I didn’t even know that was possible.
I would check the details further, but since they are local services, without a vegas or NY IP (and I can’t find any record of any other clients…usually indicates unhappy clients they don’t want to mention) I won’t be getting much if any results as to what or anything they are doing (in the way of PPC) with the two “clients” they chose to show.
Let’s be serious now…
http://web.archive.org/web/20070808130952/http://www.yodle.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20071127144658/http://yodle.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20080128211635/www.yodle.com/contactus/
Fuck me…they opened “virtual” offices….big fucking company….6 “offices” but only one phone number….how does that work…smoke signals?
http://www.prweb.com/releases/online/advertising/prweb3115014.htm
“Yodle is on track to triple its revenues, to roughly $75 million this year, according to Borrell”
Maybe soon they can get another phone
“Yodle was founded in March 2005 by Nathaniel Stevens who, at the time, was managing online marketing for his father’s car dealership. He realized that there was a better way for small business owners to connect with consumers. He teamed up with childhood friends Ben Rubenstein and John Berkowitz, as well as one of his professors at Wharton, Kartik Hosanagar, to build the business. ”
Interesting considering
http://web.archive.org/web/20070225100741/http://www.yodle.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20061109055712/http://www.yodle.com/
Right but it was done through a dealership website not yodle.com….
Hmm…they can make businesses successful…but their own company…..maybe not so much
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Yodle received $10M in Series D funding. (2/1/10)
Posted 2/2/10 at 5:44am via techcrunch.com
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Dollar
Yodle received $10M in Series C funding. (1/12/09)
Posted 1/12/09 at 4:09pm via techcrunch.com
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Yodle received $12M in Series B funding. (11/1/07)
Posted 11/30/07 at 6:02am via venturebeat.com
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Yodle received $3M in Series A funding. (11/1/06)
http://www.crunchbase.com/company/yodle
I’m going to sleep now….I was going to address the rest of your post…but I have been yodled out.
I’m so happy and grateful that the universal mine has brought a troll into my life….praise cheesus!
PS -First referral from google search, means the date the term was first used to call up the video from a google search using the terms indicated. Stats and Data shows the top 10 sources of video views, it can be significantly off if there was an emailing with a link, or if the video was gamed, as multiple views (unless the cookie crumbles)..don’t show under stats and data
WINNER!! ::
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Outlier Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 16th, 2010 at 1:08 am
@outlier,
“If it’s so difficult explain why Yodle.com is growing as a business” – YOUR QUESTION
You asked me to explain why yodle.com is growing as a business (you made a statement providing no proof to your claim). I showed that the company has been running for four years on $35Million in raised capital, and there is no indication or proof that yodle is growing as a business…all preliminary indications are that yodle is using investor funds to fund operations (correction: director salaries)
“Yodle was referenced because you claimed it was so hard to get people to pay that 1k/mo. I didn’t say Yodle was the company we should all model our lives after. ” – YOUR CLAIM TROLL
And you claimed yodle was growing as a business because some salesperson on a sales call told you so….
“If you would have brought facts up about how they have no customer base, or how they can’t make a sale…then I would understand you referencing them.” – Your claim dumbfuck
You made the statement, you have the burden of proof….I don’t have the burden of disproof ….now go fuck yourself….
WINNER!! ::
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Outlier Reply:
June 17th, 2010 at 10:46 am
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 17th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
@outlier,
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“It’s funny how you still talk about the irrelevant and only about 5% of the previous posts content.”
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Funny how conversations work….you comment on something and someone else comments back…my bet is as follows…if someone would have come back with “irrelevant” content which “proved” your statement about yodle’s “suckcess” (rather then the companies highly questionable financing…which would tend to indicate a lack of suckcess)…it wouldn’t be so irrelevant….
As to the 5% …you should know that most people don’t do a thing with 95% of the crap they read…..seriously though….do your comments come with a 30 day eradication guarantee?
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“You also still seem pretty angry. I guess that’s just the type of person you are.”
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Well….there you go…if only you could answer all your own questions…..you won’t have to be subjected to any logic in your life (pat self on back…you’re such a fucking rockstar _cartman_….self aggrandize …self aggrandize….)
PS – I will comment on your “points” from your previous post, it will probably make you feel better…
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“My original post boils down to two points. Anything outside of these two points has no room for comment.”
then…
“Point #2) SEO has it’s correct applications. I don’t even see room for arguing this.”
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Umm…okay….and so does an apostrophe (wow…I was possessed by the grammatical spirit of the universal mine)….w’hats (fuck…lost it again) the point (just an FYI….that was a retardical question…that means I already know the answer will be limited in intellect…and I don’t expect it to be answered)…
seriously though….I don’t even see the point of mentioning a point you allude to have room to comment, yet you don’t see the point of arguing. I hope I met all your criteria by pointing out your grammatical ineptitude…while not commenting on the validity of your statement (fuck _cartman_….you is brilliant…pat self on back)….
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Point 1) Could the sales comment of Brad be viewed differently, did he state something slightly incorrectly? Maybe..depending how you look at it. He didn’t say “After the first year that’s 144k!” He simply said 144k/year. ” – The troll
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Actually Forrest, how did you look at it (with your eyes fucking glued shut)? You also “accidentally” (my ass is accidental) misquoted him…he did NOT say $144,000/year….he said….
“….we’re talking about $144,000 year” -Brad Foolin
Having a “$xxx,xxx year” is a way to refer to revenue which isn’t “fixed” (as in business revenue and individuals paid on commissions), since the yearly revenue (in those two cases) varies…furthermore, if you extrapolate out Foolins second year it increases way beyond $144,000 which is why he said “$144,000 year” and not “$144,000/year”
I don’t really blame you though…someone with limited intellectual capacity (such as yourself)… wouldn’t necessarily understand the subtle difference (pat self on back…you big brained individual…Tiga…this posts for you….where is my bunny boiling babe hiding??….fuck…stocking me like that is HOT!!)
Anyways….that’s how he represented it…and that’s EXACTLY how he stated it….so while his “error” is convenient, I did state he was inept…so be happy…
There you go…..happy now….now as I stated…go fuck yourself (universal mine…please help me with my anger issues….no?…well fuck you too universal mine)…
WINNER!! ::
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SD Reply:
June 14th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
@Outlier ::
I contest the point that I’m “leveraging the search engines.” I’m pretty sure I don’t even know what that means.
I totally agree with @_cartman_ :: just numbly aiming for high organic search rankings is almost totally pointless. Unless you have a time machine and can go back to 1999 … don’t even bother trying.
I bring up my high rankings for dipshit gurus only because it annoys them … and makes them look like the idiot jack ass know nothing hypocrites that they are. But I don’t personally care at all. Most of my search traffic comes from “Salty Droid” … and if you’re typing that into Google … then I’ve already got to you.
The new web isn’t like the old web :: but the “gurus” understand neither.
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Outlier Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 1:25 am
@SD,
I must have mistaken a comment you made in a post about someone trying to de-rank one of your posts, but they couldn’t. I think it was Russel Brunson but I forget.
So I’ll take back my point about you using SEO.
However I never said anything about numbly aiming for high search rankings.
That has nothing to do with the discussion.
There are specific strategies that work when it comes to the search engines, just like there are specific strategies when it comes to using any type of marketing source.
I never said, and never will say that focusing on high rankings for rankings sake is a good idea… or should you focus strictly on SEO. Results are what matters.
Unicorn Army Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 9:14 am
@SD, “leverage” is exactly what you’re getting from the search engines.
The search term that sends you the most traffic is “salty droid,” no?
Guess how it is for every “marketing rockstar” in the echo chamber? Their names… which… their tight little circle has kept “top of mind” in the market… um… shit… oh, noes, the Droid is on *their* search results!
Which means certain Greco-Homo wrestlers in Boise aren’t calling Granny in Wichita with a coaching “opportunity” because they’re busy making splogs in a futile effort to stop the Droid’s mighty SEO machine.
That’s leverage all right… Let’s quote Wikipedia for fun: “Levers can be used to exert a large force over a small distance at one end by exerting only a small force over a greater distance at the other.”
Small force at your end (bad guy anchor text + doing what you were already doing) puts your damning words right on the search results they care most about.
SD Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
@Unicorn Army ::
Alright :: I stand corrected. I guess I am leveraging. And it’s a lever applied to a neurosis :: so its force is multiplied by the speed of light times the square root of Colorado.
From my Google Webmaster dashboard :: numbers for the last 30 days …
Frank Kern — 1300 impressions :: average position 26th :: 36 clicks. CTR 3%
Salty Droid — 1300 impressions :: average position 2nd :: 590 clicks. CTR 45%
ball sack — 1000 impressions :: average position 19th :: less than 10 clicks.
James Ray Scam — 590 impressions :: average position 1.6 :: 110 clicks. CTR 19%
That gives you a good feel for what’s going on … if you happen to care about such things … I don’t.
@Outlier ::
“results” count for shit. What matters is your content. If you believe anything else … you’re about to be left behind.
Outlier Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
@SD,
Results do matter. If you have the best written content and you spend all your time SEOing it for a keyword where no one gives a shit about your content… then you wasted time for…..no results.
Additionally if you create the best content in the world and you don’t hustle to get it in the eyes of your community then you get no results.
Please point out anywhere in any of my posts that I said “Make sure your content is terrible… don’t worry about it at all, and throw shit up anywhere you want because it doesn’t matter… and focus on making as much money as possible”.
If you put out terrible content then your results will go down anyways. If not short term, then long term results.
Why do you create good content? For results. It might not be for monetary purpose, it might be to shine the light on something that no one else does, for personal interest, for personal satisfaction, to better a community, for charity, etc…
If content is the only thing that matters, than someone who creates the cure to cancer should just put it in a zip file on his hard drive. According to your statement he won’t “be left behind”.
SD Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
@Outlier ::
A cure for cancer is content. Best content ever! And you won’t need to worry about SEOing to get people to notice. Put up a couple of splogs :: “JustCuredCancer.blogspot.com” :: get a link farm going :: make sure you correctly anchored the hyperlinks to your equations :: write an Article for PRWeb: “Hellz Yeah :: I cured cancer mother fuckers” … No. You cured cancer … so just put it out there however you want … and EVERYONE will find out about it in a matter of days.
Good content doesn’t need to be “hustled.” Let Google worry about Google … I’ll tell the jokes and focus on the core of what I’m doing. It falls where it falls. It’s just as valid an “SEO” strategy as any other … and it costs me nothing in time or money so it’s a pretty sweet deal.
Outlier Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
@SD,
The cancer example was dramatic to prove the point. But based on your comment…
Are you trying to say that you do absolutely nothing to market your content, blog, or name in any way shape or form?
Meaning you have done absolutely nothing to get the word out… if someone were to look they wouldn’t find your comments on other peoples blogs… or in forums…
If you do anything besides “create good content” then you are marketing your content in one way shape or form. No matter what you want to call it.
SEO is clearly not your focus (again like I said in my previous post… for this type of situation I would see no practical use for SEO besides de-ranking Guru’s on their own keywords)…
Nothing good “needs” to be hustled (I didn’t use hustle by that definition of the meaning but it’s all good.) What’s your favorite car? It’s a good car right? Maybe they should stop marketing it. That can be said with any product, good, or service.
In my opinion the new LG displays I just got are good. I really like them. Good thing they did some marketing or I would have never found them. The consumer doesn’t instantly know every product, blog, service, good, etc.
Sure! At some point you get a good amount of referral traffic, sales, customers from having a good product or service.
I’ve told 2-3 people about this blog personally. But I found this blog through one of your comments on another blog. So if it wasn’t for that initial marketing (whether you still do it, or not) then I wouldn’t have found this “good content”. I also wouldn’t have referred 3 other people. And they wouldn’t have referred people if they happened to.
The referrals start somewhere. “Build it and they will come” has been broke since the internet was created.
SD Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
@Outlier ::
You are kind of making my point for me. You told other people about this blog … for whatever reason. I’ll bet 95% of the traffic is from someone telling someone. That’s the human way … so the better the web gets the more that truth will be expressed.
I actually make a point of putting zero energy into being self promotional. If you saw a comment of mine somewhere else :: then it was on message … and I left it for a reason not related to making myself more popular. Those kinds of actions might end up resulting in “results” … but they weren’t taken with those results in mind. I think it’s more than a semantic difference … and it’s an important one in the context of this blog. People are being sold on the idea that the tactics are the business. But that’s bullshit :: very dangerous bullshit. Especially on the Internet. The business is the business :: the tactics come later.
Lage companies :: you mention cars and displays :: are about to face the same issue. Companies who focus on building quality products that customers love will get real people talking about them … they will be found … and they will succeed. Companies who focus on their marketing are going to fall behind and die because making people talk about your marketing is getting ever more difficult and expensive.
Power to the consumer :: to the shopper :: to the voter :: to the citizen :: to the genuinely passionate. It’s a good thing. “Advertising” was always a poor substitute for conversation. {end soapbox}
Outlier Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
@SD,
Yep, I don’t disagree with any of that. That’s why the internet is great. Well.. for those who want to make the world a better place. For those who are scamming douche bags trying to make a quick buck.. they lose.
But even with the viral nature of the internet it still has to start somewhere. I’m not trying to argue or belabor the point. Doesn’t there has to be that initial push that gets the word out? Maybe I’m blind to this but..
Where did the first viewer ever come from? Word doesn’t spread without the initial movement. Unless I’m missing something?
I agree with your point about tactics. Most of the products on the internet about making money are all about tactics, and they sell it like it’s some universal problem solver to making money or building a business. When it’s only one minor leg of building a business.
I can see that the business world is changing and evolving rapidly. The power is certainly being moved to the consumer. Which I think will create a lot of needed transparency. The good products will shine, and get into more hands, and change the world for good. The bad ones will fall off.
Which brings up a question – Do you have any comments on Mr. Gary Vay-ner-chuk?
Well, I have completely lost track here, but it seems obvious that we have way more scammers than teams.
Mr. Salty may have to consider doubling up. What to do in a situation like this?
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What about that creepy guy who brags about writing articles all and making a whopping 6-figure income. You guys know who I am talking about. That creepy looking guy that that basically lives on the warrior forum, because without it and running his special offers he wouldn’t make a dime. Hey Steven…
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PercyPennyWhistle Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 4:17 am
@Dave, Creepy guy – warrior forum? Sorry Dave, you’ll have to narrow down your search parameters a bit!
I know who you mean though, but I don’t actually feel so bad when I see the WF scammers at work, they tend to stick to shafting each other rather than venturing out into the big bad world.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
@PercyPennyWhistle, @Dave — Y’all aren’t referring to Steve “Personal Development For Smart People” Pavlina, are you? (Or Steve Pervlina, as some of us called him when he was going through his Dom/sub stage.)
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Yip Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
@Cosmic Connie, No, they are most probably referring to an older, self-deluded gent who cranks out crappy ebooks.
But Pervlina…he should be on the list. What an oddball fringer with a candy coated veneer of seeming normalcy. The perfect combo to drag down folks looking for answers in today’s crazy world. No wonder society is becoming so whack at such an accelerated pace these days. If I want to find a nut in the middle of my candy, I’ll buy m&m’s.
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How about making the Hicks duo Serbia and Croatia?
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
@Jean D. — Yeah, how ’bout those Hicks? But they’re not a mere duo. Factor in their imaginary-friends collective “Abraham” and we could be dealing with quite a crowd. The Hicks are raking in serious dough with that imaginary-buds shtick; I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re making as much or more than Tony Robbins.
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Feather Boa-Constricter Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
@Cosmic Connie, People just *love* their ‘channeled spirits’, don’t they?! I never got an Abraham, but certainly Jose Cuervo has used me a few times. ;)
The “Abraham” scam is one that definitely took it to the next level. I mean, if anyone wants to criticize their penny philosophies, they can always pawn it off on the dead folk screwing up, since they’re just the “messenger”. Throw those bitches on the list!
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Hippo Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
@Feather Boa-Constricter,
Oh, wait, what about J. Z. Knight/Ramtha?
That whole “What The Bleep Do We Know” scam.
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Feather Boa-Constricter Reply:
June 14th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
@Hippo, But “What the Bleep…” is hard science!! Didn’t you see all of those equations in the graphic on the DVD cover? Polypeptides! Molecules! Deaf Oscar winners! How can it be wrong? ;)
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Jean D Reply:
June 18th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
@Hippo, Maybe she can represent Transylvania since she’s a real bloodsucker.
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Hell Yeah, bring that crazy loon Wags into this.
What a whack job that idiot is…
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The jellisy is beginning to be outrageous. Why are you all sitting on your rump roasts “hatin’” on us successful eschalons of upper levels of society, globally, mmk?
There is so much money to be maid and landscapers out there that it is just stoopid to pick fites on this blog, mmmk?
Put your universal mine in harmony with the electromagnetic forces of money, wealth, riches and harmonic currency, mmmk?
You have limited thinking and your mine set is set to negative. Turn your inner thermostat up to positive thinking, mmk ?
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Feather Boa-Constricter Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Oh c’mon, @dave, we’re just playing World Cup full on. But if it would really make you feel better, I’ll put “get overmyself” on my Vision Board, and build a powerful affirmation about how overmyself I already am. Because dammit, when else will now be the right time?
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Germany pounds the shit out of Austalia in a blowout for the ages…nice choice of Robbins as Germany, corn holer. Robbins is da man, and Germany is going to win the world cup. Again.
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every day is another syndicate scam another business in a box promise, this morning it is ryan dice
http://www.letsgetsocial.com/video/
this pitch is the whole promise they all try to promise you can buy this product and make a good living do almost nothing then of course you buy you do not do that so you buy the next one. Mikey said the people were idiots who bought what does that say about Mieky and syndicate when they think of the people like that? I think it says they are bloodsuckers and conmen.
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Unicorn Army Reply:
June 14th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
@Jim Jones, I believe that’d be Not-Doctor Joe Vitale.
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Scott Reply:
June 15th, 2010 at 2:08 am
@Unicorn Army, Exactly. And the only voyage Not-Doctor Vitale has gone on is off the deep end.
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Ed Dale is running scared and posting a series of blog posts that explain why he might be turning off his comments all together! He has realized that the world is starting to see him for what he truly is and he doesn’t like the comments that are heading his way.
Look at this crap.
http://www.eddale.co/general/views-on-comments-a-series
http://www.eddale.co/general/continued-thoughts-on-comments
http://www.eddale.co/general/article-amplifying-the-lizard-brain
Isn’t it funny how his sudden change of heart comes at a time when he finds himself finally getting his comeuppance on blogs like this? Can’t take the heat Dale? Stop posting photos of your kids and using them as marketing tools. Stop selling crap for $97 a month. Stop pimping other scammers stuff.
The more I look into this guy the more I wonder how in the hell he has gotten away with what he is doing for so long without someone calling him out. Stompernet, Underachiver Life, Immediate Edge, Marillion Project, 30 day challenge, RSS Bomber, and now the IPO. He’s been a busy one.
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Frank Reply:
June 20th, 2010 at 11:38 am
@Ed who?, Those comments of Ed’s that you linked to are oddly cryptic and say pretty much nothing that makes sense. It appears as though he’s having some unformulated internal conversations with himself out in the open. Definitely has a worried edge to it. Probably because he knows people are waking up to his value-less chatter.
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New Zealand after todays draw against the current world cup champions Italy, is still unbeaten in the worldcup after 2 games.
“New Zealand – Red China :: fortunately it’s only a 2000 to 1 shot because my master plan for bringing down China’s oppressive regime is not yet fully formulated”
Isn’t is nice to know that you have a chance with China’s regime!!
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Ed Dale is the messiah!!! All hail Ed Dale!!! Lord of internet marketing!!!
Look at the comments that have been left by some idiot calling herself one of his disciples.
http://www.eddale.co/general/continued-thoughts-on-comments
What is it Ed? Do you close the comments, open the comments, or just open them to the people who call you God and beg you to let them touch your cloak. So crazy you just can’t make it up! It’s all there in that woman’s comment.
Like Frank says “value-less chatter” and it definitely has a worried edge to it.
Hey Ed, ever seen Nightmare on Elm Street?
1,2, Salty’s coming for you, 3,4 better lock your door, 5,6 grab your crucifix (or copy of your favorite internet marketing guru’s latest free ebook on how to become an all conquering internet bazillionaire God for just $97 a month), 7,8 better stay up late, 9,10 never SCAM again………..
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Come on UNITED!!!
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Stoic Reply:
May 29th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
@SD,
They had no chance when star player Giggs was so afraid of the derision of the crowd that he had to get a super-dooper gagging order, an injunction that forbids anyone in the UK, on threat of prison, even mentioning the existence of the injunction let alone what it conceals, to cover his extra-marital away games.
The 75,000 derisive twitterers who ignored the judicial threat to openly gossip about Gigg’s love-life probably helped Barca as well as egging a few pompous judicial farces.
Twitter has promised to deliver up the sacrificial 75,000 to due process despite being a non-UK based .com and so not subject to our stupid secrecy laws–what price free speech?
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