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I agree with a lot of what you say about how there is a false idea being sold to people, that making money online is easy, that the internet is a money machine, and so on. I HATE all those WSO’s that talk about making $25k in a week or $100k your first year “if you just will buy my $9 WSO!”…

Yeah, sure. The reason you are selling this WSO for $9 is because you are a millionaire via IM / MMO… and I suppose you just need a few thousand extra dollars for… wait a minute! You’re a f’ing MILLIONAIRE – you DON’T need to sell a $9 WSO!

So what’s wrong with that picture??

That said, your tagline “… you can’t make money online” is equally offensive in its clearly false logic. Plenty of people are making money online. Maybe not millions but they are making money. And yes, ANYone can do it, if they really do the research, work, studying, and apply themselves.

Unfortunately one has to separate the wheat from the chaff in MMO, and yeah, a lot of people get scammed, a lot of people are just stupid, and a lot of people are lazy.

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@Mike,

My tagline would have to be “Don’t be stupid or lazy! Apply yourself to what works online, do the work, and you can make some money!”

My tagline is the furry cows one for reasons I don’t feel like reciting here.

But my words to you are: Don’t be lazy in your thinking. You say “ANYone can do it, if they really do the research, work, studying, and apply themselves.”? I call bullshit. Maybe anyone can try but most simply aren’t going to succeed. Because that’s how business really works. Sometimes even a very industrious, hard working individual tries to have a business, does everything right, and it still crashes and burns. That’s because we live in a Universe chalked full of capricious random chance and freakish randomness.

I get more words-to-live-by life and business wisdom from Kenny Rogers’s song The Gambler than from a whole 2000 lbs. of self-help DVDs. … And I don’t even like country music!

You got to know when to fold, dude. IM-MMO has already lost its flashy, newness a couple or three years ago. Move on. Stay shiny.

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Apparently, the water filters on that “Multipure” site above are certified to actually remove a multitude of dangerous substances. Nothing wrong with that! As a libertarian, I’m sure you don’t have an issue with trade or direct selling or even online selling as such … at least, I would hope not.

And seriously, with the amount they charge for bottled water these days and the amount people drink, I doubt a person who installed one of those filters and, due to both improved taste and comfort with the safety of their water, drank more of it would even lose money relative to not making the change. They — the customer — may actually profit in terms of savings and health.

I’m not a fanboy here, I don’t even know that company; I’m just saying that in principle that product is a good product for a certain type of customer. Certainly no worse than $2 a bottle Dasani water, supporting the utterly evil Coca Cola company’s coffers.

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