Doctor Defamation
Each time The Droid starts firing the Shame Cannons at a new target :: The scamming cockroach starts flopping around spasmodically. Their idiotic and pained reactions have been fueling my late night batteries with joy juice.
My recent smack downs of AssClown Dr. Kilstein have not proved an exception. His response has been disturbingly dark, and hilariously ironic.
After the Victimizing the Victim post went up, Karin Hiebert tweeted the link {as ALL of you should be doing for justice, friendship, and butterflies}.
KarinHiebert: ‘Survivors!” ? —> “malcontent sick people who have banded together and given themselves a cause” http://bit.ly/qpl4T @DrKilstein
KarinHiebert: I am absolutely disgusted beyond belief.
Exactly! It was very disturbing to read and write about. I understand that people behave in this way :: But reading Kilstein’s comments was like witnessing it first hand :: And it made one feel icky {at best}.
[Enter Not-Doctor Kilstein slouching on a broomstick]
The Doctor of Love and Yoga Altruism sends this DM {a private message in Twitter} to Karin ::
“This person also published that I killed my infant daughter who died or a cardiac malformation. Nice guy huh. He’s a troll”
WOW! :: Just Wow!
1. False :: to a silly degree. I should hope that NO reader of this blog would need to be told that twice.
2. Disturbing :: Did he actually lose a daughter, and now he’s using her in a petty lie that he’s telling on the Internet? Or is he making up a dead daughter who never existed? Either way :: it’s soulless in a way that I have a hard time joking about.
3. Clueless :: He told this MEGA LIE to the OMG WORST possible person. Karin is herself a victim and survivor of sexual abuse. It’s something that she talks about openly, and often. She is also OBVIOUSLY a friend of mine. She’s written blog posts about me :: Talked about me on Twitter :: Tweeted links to other posts of mine :: And commented on this very blog about the correlation between sexual abusers and financial abusers {link}. Karin didn’t need to ask me if this garbage was true or not … and this DM was in my possession moments later {THANKS! Karin}.
4. Pointless :: Notice that Karin’s original tweet Quotes Kilstein … not The Droid. It’s him :: ON THE RECORD :: Belittling victims of abuse in a VILE way. Even if his accusations against me were true … that would change nothing about the DISGUSTING nature of his conduct.
5. Defamation :: I’ve been getting ignorant threats about defamation lawsuits every couple of weeks since the beginning of this project. They are all IGNORED … because it’s next to impossible to win a defamation case in the United States. Speech {the mother of all rights} is highly protected. You’d usually have to show that the defamatory statement was a clear lie, told knowingly, with the purpose of causing harm to reputation. Normal companies and citizens just don’t do stupid shit like that. There is usually an element of mistake or confusion in people’s misleading statements :: They are trying to get at the truth but, for some reason or other, they miss. That IS NOT a winning case and a lawsuit is a waste of time and money. But here is Dr. Doofus making up a lie that will only get worse and worse upon closer inspection. It’s the Oh-So-Rare “easy” defamation case. Don’t you assholes understand that I don’t want to be lawyer anymore? Every time I try to get out … you keep pulling me back in!
A special tip of my RobotHat to Karin for letting me publish this with her as my named source. It puts her into Dr. Dumbo’s direct line of fire :: And there are clearly no levels to which he will not stoop. But be warned Not-Doctor Kilstein :: I WILL protect my friends like a RABID DOG. Want to ensure that I file that defamation lawsuit? Then send Karin a couple of nasty emails or threats. Say something negative about her on Twitter. Start calling her at home and heavy breathing. Make ONE fucking move against her … I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU!
Allow me to reiterate :: You are FINISHED on the Internet.
>> bleep bloop
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Just a quick google search for Harlans internet moniker pulled some very interesting results. Seems there are many rabbit holes to explore and you’re not the only one exploring them. This man has enemies and it’s not hard to see why.
EPIC!
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*May Trigger* *Please Read with Caution* *May Trigger Extreme Emotions* *Trigger Warning*
I am an avid reader of the Droid, (subscribed to RSS) Droid’s posts have become my morning news and entertainment.
Prior to even checking my email, it’s a coffee and the Droid’s Blog, along with my other favorite blogger Seth Godin.
When I read the post about “The Great Fingering” I have to admit I was LMAO…what next? What else can these money hungry marketers come up with next (ridiculous crap)that could be sold to people who are desperate for help?
If Kilstein was a Doctor, or therapist, or Self Development Guru, there would certainly be other forms of “healing” if by chance the finger healing was something that served people well…it would be something a therapist would incorporate into his therapy.
It would not be something new packaged up in a cheesy sales page, squeeze, opt in crap page (whatever these nauseating pages are called by “gurus”)
A good, or REAL therapist (someone who helps people) wouldn’t be trying to make an extra nickel from a perhaps worthy discovery of healing for his/her clients.
In my experience of assorted therapy for overcoming P.T.S.D. and other overlapping disorders as a result of severe childhood trauma, the therapists are “thrilled” to try / share a new form of possible treatments to aid in the healing of the long term effects of child abuse.
Art or Music therapy works for some, and never have I heard of these forms of therapy offered for “any price” or “buy now!”
Something in all of this finger healing, just doesn’t sit right…none the less, at the time I found it extremely humorous and didn’t make much of it…other than “what next”???
After reading the Droid’s post on “Victimizing the Victims” and following the links to evidence of Kilsteins words, responses on blog posts, as well as my QWN investigating into the “truth” on Kilstein I became physically ill (like I puked ill!)
After posting 2 very short tweets, One addressing “Survivors” and another, only stating, in one short sentence that “I was disgusted beyond belief” naming no names, no @, and no link~
I was contacted by Kilstein in a DM where he stated “none of this was remotely true”
Kilstein then accused the Droid of “making up stuff” and that there was a horrific comment “out there” that the Droid posted about the unfortunate passing of Kilstein’s infant child.
My investigation, INCLUDING directly asking Harlan Kilstein where this so called “horrific” post was where Droid {apparently} posted this, was no where to be found. Kilstein had no direct link or information that he could give me in regards to this “statement” which (APPARENTLY) Droid made about Kilstein killing his child.
After a few DM on twitter, I had suggested that perhaps Kilstein could add me as a skype contact where we could communicate in instant time and not be limited to 140 characters.
Kilstein agreed. Kilstein was made very aware of my history as a survivor prior to our first communication on Skype.
This was a serious matter, for me anyway, and thought it was for him as well.
Now, remember, prior to this all, I have never had communication with this man.
Here are the facts of the unfolding of our conversation.
a. Kilstein told me he was in Israel to teach therapists about “therapy” and teaching “effective communication skills”
b. Kilstein proceeded to share that the therapists all were receptive of his “teachings” with the exception of one individual therapist who had what Kilstein referred to as having RCV, a term he had “made up” and was considering “Trademarking it.”
c. Kilstein never once mentioned that he was in Israel at a “Marketing” seminar/convention by the name of Affilicon09
Why Kilstein wanted for me to think, or give the impression that he was there to teach therapists, not marketers about marketing still confuses me.
But I suppose given the nature of this unfolding, perhaps Kilstein thought it would be more “impressive” or “credible” if he was an “instructor to therapists” rather than a speaker at a marketing seminar.
Here is where Kilstein really screwed up, lost any credibility with me, {not that he had any} and where his “effective communication skills” came into play on our first contact and conversation on skype…
[6/3/2009 4:05:59 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Please allow me to see when you are online
[6/3/2009 4:06:03 PM] *** Missed call from Harlan Kilstein. ***
[6/3/2009 4:06:37 PM] *** Call ended ***
[6/3/2009 4:21:06 PM] Karin Hiebert: sorry i missed you, i dont have a working mic at the moment, trying to dig up another one I have kicking around.
[6/3/2009 4:21:55 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Okay, in bed, Can’t you tell? Let’s try 2 morrow. Peace
[6/3/2009 4:22:15 PM] Karin Hiebert: sounds good i will be here
[6/3/2009 4:22:24 PM] Karin Hiebert: Karin Hiebert has shared contact details with Harlan Kilstein.
[6/3/2009 4:23:49 PM] Karin Hiebert: how would i be able to tell you were in bed? (think)
[6/3/2009 4:24:31 PM] Harlan Kilstein: telepathy?
[6/3/2009 4:25:12 PM] Karin Hiebert: ahhhh, yes, well i am known to be psychic, telepathy still needs practice
[6/3/2009 4:25:38 PM] Karin Hiebert: what r you doing in israel?
[6/3/2009 4:25:45 PM] Harlan Kilstein: U could try remote viewing… ;)
[6/3/2009 4:25:55 PM] Harlan Kilstein: I’m teaching therapists.
[6/3/2009 4:26:12 PM] Karin Hiebert: what do you teach them?
[6/3/2009 4:26:24 PM] Harlan Kilstein: effective communication skills
[6/3/2009 4:26:46 PM] Karin Hiebert: good stuff! like Dale Carnegie?
[6/3/2009 4:27:03 PM] Harlan Kilstein: no, sheesh, that’s fake.
[6/3/2009 4:27:20 PM] Karin Hiebert: so you live there? from there? just go there to teach?
[6/3/2009 4:27:32 PM] Harlan Kilstein: First time teaching here. Live in FLorida
[6/3/2009 4:27:42 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Friend arranged this.
[6/3/2009 4:27:58 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Trying to teach therapists to shut up and pay attention to their clients
[6/3/2009 4:28:05 PM] Karin Hiebert: ahhhhhhhh, so you dont like dale?
[6/3/2009 4:28:10 PM] Harlan Kilstein: And stop trying to fix people
[6/3/2009 4:28:16 PM] Harlan Kilstein: People can fix themselves
[6/3/2009 4:28:28 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Just give them space
[6/3/2009 4:28:37 PM] Harlan Kilstein: and have them find the gold inside of themselves
[6/3/2009 4:28:48 PM] Karin Hiebert: yup, those are good things, listening is a skill most do not know how to do
[6/3/2009 4:29:12 PM] Harlan Kilstein: One therapist wanted to walk out when I showed she wasn’t listening and was judging
[6/3/2009 4:29:30 PM] Karin Hiebert: really?
[6/3/2009 4:29:32 PM] Harlan Kilstein: I can’t imagine her helping people
[6/3/2009 4:29:42 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Seriously suffering from RCV
[6/3/2009 4:29:58 PM] Karin Hiebert: rcv?
[6/3/2009 4:30:14 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Recticular Canal Vision – her head is too far up her ass
[6/3/2009 4:30:31 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Very hard to see
[6/3/2009 4:30:40 PM] Karin Hiebert: i see…never heard that one before
[6/3/2009 4:30:48 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Technical term I invented.
[6/3/2009 4:31:01 PM] Karin Hiebert: you invent terms?
[6/3/2009 4:31:16 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Just RCV. I think I’ll trademark it
[6/3/2009 4:31:28 PM] Karin Hiebert: sounds good..
[6/3/2009 4:31:41 PM] Harlan Kilstein: 9 out of 10 therapists loved it.
[6/3/2009 4:31:45 PM] Harlan Kilstein: 1 wants out.
[6/3/2009 4:31:49 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Oh well.
[6/3/2009 4:32:02 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Hate to be her patient
[6/3/2009 4:32:20 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Anyway, it’s 12:30 and I’m jumping back into bed.
[6/3/2009 4:32:24 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Shalom!
[6/3/2009 4:32:36 PM] Harlan Kilstein: and Good night )or afternoon
[6/3/2009 4:32:40 PM] Harlan Kilstein: :)
[6/3/2009 4:32:48 PM] Karin Hiebert: to you too, late afternoon here
[6/3/2009 4:33:05 PM] Harlan Kilstein: I know. Peace
[6/3/2009 4:33:23 PM] Karin Hiebert: l8r
Harlan Kilstein went offline.
Status then showed Kilstein back online.
[6/3/2009 4:48:48 PM] Karin Hiebert: couldnt sleep?
[6/3/2009 4:49:01 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Kids called
[6/3/2009 4:49:36 PM] Karin Hiebert: how many kids?
[6/3/2009 4:49:44 PM] Harlan Kilstein: 4
[6/3/2009 4:49:48 PM] Harlan Kilstein: and one that died
[6/3/2009 4:49:52 PM] Harlan Kilstein: that I killed
[6/3/2009 4:50:05 PM] Harlan Kilstein: daughter died at age 3
[6/3/2009 4:50:08 PM] Karin Hiebert: oh,,, so tell me about that?
[6/3/2009 4:50:19 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Tetrology of Fallot with Pulmanary Atresia
[6/3/2009 4:50:28 PM] Harlan Kilstein: You can google that.
[6/3/2009 4:50:32 PM] Harlan Kilstein: I’m going to bed
[6/3/2009 4:50:36 PM] Karin Hiebert: will do..
[6/3/2009 4:50:37 PM] Harlan Kilstein: Night
[6/3/2009 4:51:22 PM] Karin Hiebert: wanna just tell me where this is written where someone would say that you killed your child?
[6/3/2009 4:51:36 PM] Karin Hiebert: its sick
[6/3/2009 4:52:28 PM] Karin Hiebert: or not, can talk another time
[6/3/2009 5:02:17 PM] Karin Hiebert: so i should google one, and not the other?
Today, June 4th A.M.
[7:31:33 AM] Karin Hiebert: still havent informed me where it is written about someone actually saying this horrific thing about your child?
sorry to hear about the loss of your child, i have 3 kids, adults now, and have grandchildren, i couldnt imagine losing a child.
I did look up the cardiac malfunction on google, devastating.
[7:33:04 AM] Karin Hiebert: curious, why would you not tell me you were speaking at a marketing seminar #affilicon09, but you rather would say you were there to teach therapists? any reason for that?
NO Comment…No Reply…
Guess he got busy teaching therapists/hypnotists “effective communication skills.”
Here are my questions and concerns about Kilsteins communication with me.
Why did Harlan, say “I am in bed, Can’t you tell?”
Great thing to say Harlan, for your first serious communication with me! (especially given the nature of the seriousness of the topic, and REASON for our communicating)
When asked “Why I would know he was in bed?” his answer “telepathy” if he wanted for me to envision him in bed, his “telepathy” worked, I did, and wanted to puke.
His next statement of “Remote viewing” him with the wink icon, sickened me even more.
His statement about Dale Carnegie “being fake” added to my disgust. Dale Carnegie Courses in effective communication skills and human relation skills is still one of the most worldwide respected courses since the first course given in 1912.
As a Dale Carnegie Graduate, and a Dale Carnegie Graduate Assistant for the course, there is nothing “fake” about it and its teachings to this very day.
If Harlen was an excellent communicator or “listener” he would have asked me questions and inquire about my association or experience with Dale Carnegie…
{isn’t that what a good LISTENER/communicator would do?}
After bashing one of his students, and informing me of Her RCV, (his own words ” I made up that term”) my conclusion is;
Harlan Kilstein claims to be an expert doctor and Instructor to therapists on “therapy”
Kilstein claims to be an expert in “Effective” communication skills and Dale Carnegie is “Fake.”
Kilstein lied about what he was doing in Israel, why? to impress me?
(was he not proud to say he was a speaker at an internet seminar?)
Kilstein admits he makes up terms.(makes me wonder what else he makes up?) accusations of someone posting something~ and cant provide me with a link to that content?
Kilstein has no communication skills as he CLEARLY proved in his “communication” with me.
Kilstein clearly is a pig! Sending “telepathic images” of him…in bed, and offering me to remotely view him???
Harlan Kilstein has no business being in a business that he knows nothing about. THERAPY, counseling, or anything “remotely” close to those!
Kilstein has no business, being in business. Period.
(A SAD WANNA BE, that will never Be)
Kilstein’s evidence of “victimizing the victim” can easily be found on the internet.
To all of my survivor friends, when running into people like this, “Give them the FINGER”
Be strong, move on, and move forward.
Support is available. http://www.pandys.org/
~Karin Hiebert
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http://yourotherself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/what-do-child-molesters-and
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Ha! I wonder Kilstein … are you ever NOT being a total dick?
I like this part ::
“9 out of 10 therapists loved it.
1 wants out.
Oh well.
Hate to be her patient”
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Another good expose Salty, keep them coming. All of these dickheads have a standard response when they are challenged, they threaten with defamation. What happens is that that threat alone does more damage to their reputation than anything anyone could question about them. Tell me one of these dickheads who have not tried this on their victims?
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SD Reply:
February 14th, 2010 at 12:52 am
Marc/Karin
The robot is a character.
Jason doesn’t have friends … he’s a neutral.
Calm down.
Kindest Regards,
Jason
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