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Mr. Smith said:
Did you check the tracking cookies on these spam twitter accounts? Wondering if it is Belcher or an affiliate? If an affiliate, was he/she terminated by Belcher/Deiss?
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# 25 September 2009 at 12:34 pm

NateCheeley said:
They would have an affiliate cookie either way. One of the rules of self-promotion is to not make it look like self-promotion.
….though, I've never seen them teach that one.
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# 25 September 2009 at 3:29 pm

Mr. Smith said:
Because Belcher has come to this site recently trying to clear his name, this is a great opportunity for him to throw a bad affiliate under the bus by naming names and telling what happened. If there is no response, the silence will speak volumes too.
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# 25 September 2009 at 3:34 pm

NateCheeley said:
I think it's pretty irrelevant either way, honestly. It's just one of those highly ineffective spam-follow/auto-tweet things that exists just because it can. It's not really an indicator of integrity (or the lack thereof).
Just part of the "game", and the game is massive. The person behind it might not even know those are their accounts unless they can be identified by the cookies. And again, who cares. It's very common.
I'm just half-smiling from the irony and leaving it at that, because it *is* a classic definition.
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# 25 September 2009 at 3:47 pm

stealth stinger said:
Jason… remember what I told you in the email about Perrys Launch and the sudden bump up of followers he had to over 100K ;-)
Dear readers of this blog…
Prior to Belchers Social Media Money Sinker launch he had MANY… MANY… and then some accounts set up to follow him… each with only ONE POST… to promote his launch…
Should you not be aware (you maybe) there is software about that can whip you up 1000 accounts per hour… these were used to get him over the 100K mark… I jest you not!
In his teachings (SMMS) Pinocchio Perry states that he looks only for people who are real, real faces…etc… and "hand picks them" (ZOOOOOOOOP GOES THE NOSE)
If you don't believe me and you got 20 hours to spare :-) Go and see if telling the truth to his students… all who have paid a hell of a lot of money for pure bullshit :-(
http://twitter.com/PerryBelcher/following
Have a great weekend… chow for now…
JJ over and out
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Tom Thumb Reply:
October 10th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
@stealth stinger, and everyone, not to defend Belcher, but if you are saying that fake twitter followers is deserving of this kind of hate, then there are hundreds of thousands of internet marketers over at Warrior Forum who you should be going after, who in some ways are worse than Belcher. Belcher made a lot of money and actually has a lot of great entrepreneural skills, and I think some people are jealous of anyone who makes money. Aside from that, maybe he is a sociopath, I don’t know, but it seems shallow for people here to focus on just a few people when you could be going after 80% of the internet marketing world that use these type of tactics and many who scam.
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Frank Reply:
October 11th, 2012 at 2:00 am
@Tom Thumb, You ARE defending Belcher, you asshole.
And you’re dismissively relegating his MANY fraudulent activities to simply “twitter” lies? Seriously? What a bastard you are for glossing over his extensive and sordid “career” as a long time fraudster.
I’ve scoured for and read voluminous material all over the net on Belcher since his scamming world came tumbling down. I’ve read the legal documents. I’ve read very detailed (now deleted) material on other sites. I’ve seen videos, and listened to HIS OWN audios where his true colors are front and center. Perry Belcher is not only a convicted FELON (still serving probation), but he is a die hard scammer of the worst kind. People like that do not change, nor will he, ever. He’s a sociopath.
Your coming here and defending that heartless crook makes you a total lowlife.
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# 25 September 2009 at 5:30 pm

stealth stinger said:
PS.
and would you believe that he manages to follow people when he's on stage or during a live webinar etc… the guys a GENIUS (ahem) ;-)
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# 25 September 2009 at 5:32 pm

anonymoose said:
I am a freelance copywriter and am somewhat ashamed to say that I had a part in the Selmedica disaster. I was hired off Elance to write sales letters for products that had false testimonials; sometimes, the name on the testimonial would be the same for each product. I was told they were placeholders for the real ones but was very skeptical. Oh, and Harlin Philistine is funny as hell. Glad I never bought any of that crap.
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# 25 September 2009 at 7:54 pm

jones said:
All that spamming is just part of a hard day’s work for Belcher. Ha! That and his water sports with Ryan he showed on a recent video.
Harlan has a new invitation for people in his email today. Still desperate for people to take his Tactic 7 program for a trial, he’s offering a FREE PHONE CONSULT with him even if you cancel the trial!
“If you believe any (or all of these) it’s time for you to take the Tactic 7 program for a test drive. You have NOTHING to lose and everything to gain.And as a special bonus, everyone who signs up for the trial gets a phone consultation with me even if you don’t stick with the trial.What could be more fair than that? Go here now to sign up:”
Salty, it would be hysterical if you could sign up for this trial under fake name just to get the phone consult with him, ask him all the tough questions and give him hell on the call, and then post it for all us to hear.
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# 25 September 2009 at 10:21 pm

lol said:
Perry Belcher is dropping his marketing trainings lol look at this
http://perrybelchermarketing.com/
No Longer Updating This Blog
by Perry Belcher on September 28, 2009
in Uncategorized
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Dear Perry Belcher Marketing Readers,
In an effort to focus more on my family life and other career directions, I will no longer be updating this site.
I have taken my life in a quite different direction that no longer includes internet marketing training, in turn, all materials on the site pertaining to marketing on this and other sites of mine have been or will soon be removed.
I wish each and every one of you the greatest level of success in your endeavors.
Thank you very much for your support and friendship.
Perry Belcher
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# 29 September 2009 at 1:27 am

Carl said:
Why would he do that if he were as successful as he claimed and making all the money he said he was? It makes no sense whatsoever. Won't people who have bought his "products" wonder if they were really getting good advice then? I would!
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Tom Thumb Reply:
October 10th, 2012 at 5:49 pm
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@Carl, Maybe because people like you have nothing better to do than bitch when others make money, and tear people down. Like I said in an above post, scamming applies to a large percentage of the “internet marketing” community. Thanks to Salty Droid and others for drawing a line in the sand and pointing out that these people suck, but Perry has had a lot of legitimate business ventures that were honest, and I wonder what the fuck people like you do other than write shit comments on sites like this when you’ve never made a dime, honest or not, outside of your job at McDonalds.
LOSER!! ::   -4
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Jack Reply:
October 10th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
@Tom Thumb,

“but Perry has had a lot of legitimate business ventures that were honest”
Is there a logician in the house?
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Wyrd Reply:
October 12th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
@Jack,
Is there a logician in the house?
It’s tempting to me, but based on his comment above, I don’t think Mr. Thumb will be very amenable to logical reasoning.
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Frank Reply:
October 11th, 2012 at 1:51 am
@Tom Thumb, Perry Belcher is a habitual liar, a con man, and a crook. He ripped off seriously ill people, and he did it for a long time. The only thing that stopped Belcher’s cold blooded scamming (temporarily) was getting CAUGHT. People like you give safe haven to scammers, and you deserve to rot in prison with the lot of them, jackass.
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# 29 September 2009 at 2:17 am

Saltier Droid said:
Maybe he realizes there's more than one way to make money.
Just a thought.
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# 29 September 2009 at 4:30 am

lol said:
yea he realized his incredible talent making license plates #grin
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# 29 September 2009 at 5:18 am

Pfffft. said:
If you look at the site Belcher is discontinuing, he only updated it once every three or four months anyway. So once again the world must do without his quarterly brilliance, sob! Big whoop.
Looks like the Droid is winning, though….
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# 29 September 2009 at 11:22 am

El Pondero said:
Is he really "ceasing" all his online marketing activities, or shifting to a more anyonymous "behind closed doors" way of conducting business? I bet you'll still find him in Ryan Deiss' office…doing whatever it is he does. People rarely just walk away from income streams.
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# 29 September 2009 at 5:33 pm

ANGRY CONSUMER said:
Don't be too sure… word has it that Belcher's going behind the curtain under a pseudoname and also using a "relative" to put his name out, to promote his junk
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# 29 September 2009 at 6:47 pm

Watson said:
Bank on that. Of course, he still has parole conditions…
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# 29 September 2009 at 8:39 pm

Pissy Belcher said:
Pissy Belcher has real serious acting skills… the slug can mimick sincerity with a straight face… too bad Pissy is gonna be Big Bubba's Missy soon ;)
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# 29 September 2009 at 9:09 pm

Slim33 said:
He'd probably have Big Bubba twittering in no time. Or maybe Big Bubba would have him twittering.
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# 29 September 2009 at 10:07 pm

LOL LOL said:
Slim33 you are just sick… lol lol
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# 30 September 2009 at 2:57 pm

LOL LOL said:
HOLY SHIT BELCHER SURRENDERED!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF CHECK IT OUT
http://perrybelcher.com/
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Perry Belcher: Turning The Page
October1
Dear Friends,
Today I decided to end my career as an internet marketing trainer. I have told so many of my students that when your 1% unhappy it’s time to get out. Now it’s time to follow my own advice.
Over the last 18 months or so I have had the privilege to meet and work with some of the coolest, kindest, most generous people I have ever known. I have truly enjoyed sharing my knowledge of internet marketing and social media marketing with each and every one of you.
So why would I quit? There are several reasons, but here are a few…
First, training and coaching, for me, is an all encompassing business. I took on every client’s challenges as my own and and my time with my family has been very limited since I began on this path. I look very forward to focusing on just being dad and a husband for a while.
Secondly, while there are a great many people who have shown me a great deal of love, there are a few that have shown a heavy dose of hate and anger, partially because of my past. This group has unfortunately been much more vocal and harsh.
While I can take reasonable criticism, today I have concerns for my safety and the safety of family.
Third, I remembered that it’s much more fun and profitable to be a marketer than it is to teach internet marketing…a truth that someone had to hit me over the head to help me remember.
So, that being said I need to make a clean break….
I have asked that all my internet marketing training products be removed from the market.
I am in the process of removing all internet marketing related materials form my blogs.
Over the next bit of time I will be reverting my social media connections back to close personal friends.
I will have canceled all future internet marketing and social media speaking opportunities and will not accept new ones.
In short, I am taking my life back to private.
My current clients will be supported by Ryan Deiss’ company, Infomastery, but I will be creating no new internet marketing trainings and I have canceled all future speaking engagements regarding internet marketing.
For any current customers and clients who are still owed coaching/consulting from me, I will still be hanging around for as long as it takes to make sure that you are taken care of. In other words, while my public persona will more or less vanish, I’ll still be helping you privately and WILL NOT violate prior agreements. (NOTE: This includes “Social Media Money System” customers who are owed coaching calls with me.)
If you have any questions or concerns about any of this, please contact customer support at: support@drivingtraffic.com
…or by phone at: 512-600-4363
I appreciate your care and understanding and I wish each and every one of you great success in your future endeavors.
Sincerely,
Perry Belcher
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Wyrd Reply:
September 5th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
Oh, look. It’s Perry Belcher throwing a psychopathic pity party.
No doubt this move was made to allow Perry to pretend to be in compliance with the terms of his probation.
I see on his website that he claims to still not be in the scammy biz of IM-MMO, yet while there may not be a “subscribe here” button, he has made sure to provide folks ample options to post stuff on his site. Of course the form captures your email. Of course it’d be probably unethical to put those folk’s emails on a list. I don’t know that, that happens. But if it happens, it wouldn’t surprise me.
And there’s Perry talking about his cool friend Ryan Deiss.
And Perry speaks at events “for free”. Basically, IMHO, Perry is still in IM-MMO, it’s just that he’s been relegated to $0 lead-gen.
Oh and Make Money Online Hotdogs of course.
http://saltydroid.info/make-money-online-hotdogs/
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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# 1 October 2009 at 2:38 am

LOL LOL said:
SERVERS THAT FAT RAT BASTARD RIGHT…HE THINKS JUST BECAUSE HIS FAT LYING ASS SAYS I'M SORRY THAT IT MAKES IT OK FOR HIM TO HAVE CHEATED SICK OLD CANCER PATIENTS….THAT BASTARD CAN ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!
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# 1 October 2009 at 2:39 am

Frank said:
He just said he was giving up being an "internet marketing trainer" and his "public persona" was going to "vanish." He never did say he was giving up internet marketing. Maybe he is just going "under the radar" so to speak to conduct business. Wonder what he's really up to? I don't see him going into any other line of work. People tend to stick with what they know and what they've made money doing in the past.
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# 1 October 2009 at 3:29 am

Ms. Pissy Belcher said:
If Pissy Belcher is so concerned about his kids how come he still has the youtube vids up of his kids?? Liar needs to get his lies straight BEFORE he vomits them out
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# 1 October 2009 at 3:30 am

Newt said:
Sounds more like a lot of posturing to preserve his ego and pride.
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# 1 October 2009 at 3:52 am

Observio said:
Noticed this tweet to Belcher from this afternoon. What's he maybe got going in southern California?
amberoverfield: @perrybelcher Perry, heard you left for CA. Is there any room in ur schedule to meet up in southern CA, as we talked about on our last call?
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# 1 October 2009 at 4:07 am

Ms. Pissy Belcher said:
that is his mail order filipina girlfriend/wife check his myspace page myspace.com/perrybelcher
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# 1 October 2009 at 4:11 am

Jones said:
Hell, Belcher has more scam careers and Morris the Cat's nine lives. Let's see, even his Twitter profile identified some of those – tattoo artist, hotdog vendor, jewelry. What will it be next?
He's just reinventing himself again and this is ploy for publicity. What about that line that about concerns for the safety of his family? Cries for attention and wild exaggerations unless his latest training products have left so many mad at him that they are really after him. Doubt it, they only want their money back. If anybody is that mad, it might be his old Selmedia customers or people that company owed money to.
Notice the distinct writing style difference in the way this latest letter is written and the one on his blog from a couple of days ago? Perry, no doubt, wrote the first one on the blog, and this latest one was obviously written by someone else (I'd guess Ryan) and it appears to be from the person who wrote the first post Perry put on this blog when he appeared a week or so ago.
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# 1 October 2009 at 5:43 am

Jones said:
Perry has a mail order filipina girlfriend/wife???
OMG, make sense, though, who else would be attracted to that fat pig scammer.
She probably doesn't understand or speak English well and thinks she's married some really rich, important American CEO.
Did he order her before or after his arrest? I wonder how he explained that to her if she was with him last year?
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# 1 October 2009 at 5:46 am

Jones said:
It's sad how he's used those kids in several videos. Ugh, in one he showed them making a dinner of something really crappy like corn dogs and all cheap carbs.
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# 1 October 2009 at 5:49 am

Jones said:
I wouldn't put it past Perry to start whoring out his Momma. I noticed he twittered recently about his mother moving in with them.
Oh yeah, he listed quilting as an interest on some social networking site so maybe Momma might start using Ryan's continuity scam program and start a quilting or crafting site or a site teaching grandparents how to use video or the web to keep in touch with their out of town grand kids. Perry D's Video camming for seniors or grandparents.
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# 1 October 2009 at 5:54 am

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