Perry Belcher: Second Second Chance
My fellow Americans: Major combat operations against Perry Belcher have ended. In the Battle of The Jowls, The Droid and his allies have prevailed. {Fuck yeah!}
Evil Jowls has decided {with a little help from his not-friends} that jail sounds totally lame. We don’t usually agree on things :: But The Droid would tend to agree that jail sounds totally lame.
A couple of weeks ago Perry magically appeared on this blog and left a few baffling comments. He implicated that he was going to give up “the biz” :: and he almost sounded not-stupid {link}. For some {obvious} reason :: I didn’t feel like taking the “man” at his word. D-bag surrenders come with strings attached :: Private conference was demanded … and accepted. Three weeks of girl talk followed … and terms have been reached.
So cry some salty tears and say goodbye to ::
1. ALL of Perry’s scammy :: Vicious :: Life-ruiningly overpriced Internet Marketing products :: Gone! NEVER to return {link}.
2. 5000 friend Spam Facebook account :: ix-nayed
3. Most of his blogs :: and all of the posts about Internet Marketing :: flushed down the toilet like worthless turds.
4. Internet Marketing related YouTube videos :: Nuked!
5. King of Follow Spam Twitter Account {and major battlefield in this war} :: GONE! :: Caught up in the spam rapture :: Believe it!
Perry Says Goodbye {link} :: This post was part of the deal … and Perry delivered without class or fucking style … natch!
“While I can take reasonable criticism, today I have concerns for my safety and the safety of family.”
BullShit :: That has nothing to do with it. So pathetic … but I guess that’s what we’ve all come to expect from FatFace MaGee. It would have been disappointing if he didn’t keep lying and posturing to the bitter end.
:: Run Unexpected Program –> Undeserved_Mercy ::
This is not an anti- Perry Belcher blog {as so many lame brained hecklers have shouted} :: It’s an anti-scammer blog. Stop being a scammer :: stop finding yourself on this blog. I can’t say for sure whether or not Perry is actually finished with the scams :: but he’s done enough to convince me to hold my fire.
However :: if he makes an untriumphant return to the land of scam :: there will be no Third Second Chances.
{Winning FTW!}
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:: read one now before you die of stupid.
Don't even think for one second that we've heard the last from D-Bag Belcher or that the pressure from this blog has gotten to him. If he was really raking in that much money from his social media classes and twitter spamming, then he'd keep it up and never acknowledge this blog.
I'm guessing that the 2nd class for his social media training system that he recently announced as nearly sold out wasn't even close to selling out and that the refund rate for his 1st class was much higher than anticipated.
One of Ryan's continuity programs is a fitness site. Now if those two short, out of shape, fat f**ks have the nerve to sell fitness, the god only knows what Perry's next venture will be.
He'll be back, most likey with his newest ventures under cloacked identity, but he's not gone. Bank on it!
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Smells like…victory!
Yeah, Jones is right I guess, the Jowls will probably try to pop up again. But even if this is a "temporary retreat to previously prepared defensive lines", it's still bloody good work!
In particular, not just making this a hate-site, but having a plan to cease fire IF the bad guys agree to terms, means some real good can be accomplished. Note this strategy well.
Well done, Salty. Good work.
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3 Weeks of chatting with the droid…you guys must almost be friends by now!
And who couldn't be your friend after 3 minutes of speaking with you?
The droid has a way of making you think,, it is like speaking directly to "common sense" the droid will point out to you the obvious, which to some is not so "obvious" until it is pointed out!
I wish Perry well, and I do hope for his own sake that he doesn't use others, or other "identities" to continue on…
If he does, then he will need to live with himself…and live with the worry that he will be found out {again}
If you make a deal with droid, you had better keep it…If the droid negotiates with you with a promise of "laying off" you can be sure that he will live up to his end of the deal…
How do I know this? I just know…like I have said, time and time again Salty is one of the most straight up, and honest robots I know…
Nice to see this Droid!– that you have possibly made an honest man out of a not so honest one…
good luck to Perry,
Now just get that Harlan Kilstein off the "streets"
only with Harlan, I don't think there is even an ounce of hope..
But the good thing is that he is being closely watched by a few groups of survivors…very closely watched…
and they are not liking what they are discovering about the man…especially what they are and have been reading here at this blog…especially where harassment is involved concerning myself and others…
you never want to get under THEIR radar…
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Belcher isn't the type to just walk away from money. Of course, considering the sharp folks who follow this blog, we'll likely be hearing about whatever it is he does next (or…continues to do, discreetly).
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Maybe Belcher's going to do "curb painting." According to this site, you can make up to $100,000.00 a year (or "$500.00 a day!") painting people's house numbers on curbs:
http://www.curbpaintingbusinesssecrets.com
Forget about medical school!
Belcher's name isn't mentioned on the site (just a reference to a mysterious "Rich"), but one of the "testimonials" is from "Nathan" in Austin, Texas (isn't there also a Nathan who works with Ryan Deiss??). Also, they show a store receipt that shows the purchase of curb painting supplies from Lowe's…the specific store address is blacked out…but next to the cash register number is the store number (1187)…it comes up via google as being located in Bartlett, TN (a suburb next to Memphis, where Perry moved to Austin from). The text on the site is typical extreme hype, and at the bottom, it is virtually the SAME "act now" pushy text used on Perry's other sites.
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There are still these Belcher related sites, among others:
http://www.hotdogcash.com
http://www.hotdogcartsecrets.com
http://www.icecreamsecrets.com
http://www.icecreamtrucksecrets.com
After reading the copy on those sites and considering that Belcher is already a convicted felon, does anyone really expect Belcher will be turning over a new leaf?
Oh wait, there's a "product" idea: "Make $100,000 a year just raking leaves (in your underwear)!"
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Belcher's biggest motivation besides money is probably his desire not to (noticeably) violate the terms of his probation. And he can probably sidestep that issue easier when he's not under the spotlight and nobody's looking. Only 9 more years to go.
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Jorge how dare you go on an investigation rampage and dig out Ms. Piss Poor Belcher's career changes!!
On the real side, you actually CAN make six figures with hotdog stands, painting curb numbers, and selling pickle sandwhiches on the highways….just work 24 hours , 7 days a week, you and about 10 other illegal immigrants who only need $1 a day to send back to their family. So you see…it IS possible! LOLOL Way to go Jorge
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Yes, we certainly can't condone someone formulating business plans for hot dog and ice cream vendors.
How nefarious.
The only righteous thing to do is hide one's identity and throw feces at anyone who would even contemplate such dirty deeds.
I am looking forward to the droid's fearless expose of the hot dog business.
At least he has the support of one ot the top ten hairdressers in the world.
That's something.
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Yeah, there is nothing like pitching desperate people in a down economy on the idea that they can live in a mansion and lounge by the pool on a hot dog or ice cream truck income. Or maybe make $100,000 a year painting house numbers on curbs. Sounds totally realistic, doesn't it?
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Of course he just "gave up." He just made a fortune from his latest course. This was obviously planned. He got screwed by the law and decided he needed "one more scam" to make enough to live on.
Now he get's to enjoy the rewards of his scam sac product. I sure hope you aren't throwing in the towel Salty. He's living nice off of screwing people yet again and if authorities who he made the deal with knew everything about this in detail, he'd be behind bars where he belongs.
It looks like Salty has one on the surface but really Perry is the victor as of yet and I can see Perry smiling behind his retirement post…Perry: "Mission Accomplished".
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This is an extremely funny website
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OMG that first one, you click it, and he starts talking. Talking about hot dog carts! WTF, just shoot me
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Also, IMHO, anything with a "squeeze page" is a dirty racket.
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Not only does The Droid have the support of the world's top ten hairdressers as you put it, but he's got an angry mob of people who have been outright lied to, psychologically manipulated, and cheated out of their money, many of whom are on the verge of losing their homes and lives.
I know you self righteous marketers and "gurus" blame it all on the victim, but yet you relish in how you can make your lists respond like a "trained parrot" (quoted directly from little cHarlatan Shitstein) AND you KNOW damn well that most of the people buying your shit are complete newbies to the internet marketing world and of course when you know next to NOTHING it will seem what you are telling them is a TON of valuable stuff…. but there is no value because NONE Of the established men and women are ever seen in any of these coaching programs unless they're trying to pitch you their own crap.
People like Perry Belcher are like pedophile child molesters… they really don't think there's anything wrong with exploiting another human being and using their own lack of knowledge and experience AGAINST them… you KNOW it's wrong and so does the world's best hair dresser and the angry mob of people behind this …. and believe me there are some angry ones ….. cheating elderly people on a fixed income and who have CANCER is the absolute worst and there is NO forgiveness for THAT in MY eyes.
"
You cannot hide; we are everywhere.
We cannot die; we are forever. We're getting bigger every day
Knowledge is free.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us."
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One of the top hairstylists is also ONE of the top "big mouths"
…when it comes to Promoting Awareness of other SICK epidemics in the world…
much like Salty, we are determined and prepared to make a difference…
The voices of Angela Shelton the REAL Big Mouth http://tinyurl.com/ybmlyzm
Betsy Salkind, PAVE, and a few other FABULOUS men and woman are about to create MORE than just AWARENESS as well! AND ALL are invited to join in there as well…
Watch for it! : )
See…IT ISN'T ALL BAD…LIFE CAN BE FUN!
Very positive- Not Negative ; )
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lol…its one of the more fun places on the web! and educational!
: )
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[...] Death Threat Causes IM'er To Go In Hiding… Perry Belcher: Second Second Chance has some interesting [...]
Molesters, Child Abusers, People Abusers- abusers…
they will get theirs in the end…
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Where you been girl? You starting to feel that arctic chill? Ok, not sure what the scuffle is here but looks like you all got it under control. Anyway, now that it's all settled, do come and sign this petition on the sidewiki thing which is truly evil and will result in fantastic comments (like this one) that typically appear on blogs to get swiped into the sidewiki and blog owners will have no control over which comments appear on their sites. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/sidewiki/index...
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Talk about a bunch of lame fuckers with nothing better to do than to sit around the water cooler in a big giant circle jerk slammin' other people with a bunch of lies just to make their story sound better… Grow up fools! Yeah this is to all the loosers who have posted negative remarks here just to join the club…
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It spells "losers".
I rest my case.
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Sure. It's much better to sit, complain, and do nothing.
Just becaue you won't get off your ass, is no reason to think that others won't.
Painbrush?
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Really?
I went and checked out his last blog post, and there appeared to be a lot of people who genuinely appreciated his efforts.
Way too many comic books for you.
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LOL Avenuegirl that side bar should be on EVERY website so that people can know about who has been scammed and how many. If the company is *truly* reputable then there is nothing to worry about. People will be able to see through nut bags and people who just complain for shits and giggles…. but if the company has hundreds of complaints then it is a very NECESSARY thing. So I will be petitioning it to STAY ;)
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Come on. You couldn't sell a hot lunches to Eskimos.
Maybe that's why you hate.
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Yup, the yapping dogs are feeling victorious because someone shook them off his pants leg.
Pretty damned funny to watch.
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Mr Belcher's free to try making a fortune in selling hotdogs.
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For somebody so sure of himself and his idol, your knickers are in more than just one knot I dare say.
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Exactly. And if he could, he wouldn't just be sitting on his large ass telling people how THEY could do it (theoretically).
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Not me. I keep me knickers quite tidy. You never know when you might have to go to the hospital.
So, besides making disparaging remarks about Belcher's physical appearance, aiding in the theft of Belcher's products, and showing beginner skills with Photoshop, what has your hero, the Salty Droid done?
The Saltier Droid wants to know.
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Jill if you are legitimate then you should not have anything to worry about
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Froylein took the words right out of my mouth…
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What "lies" are you referring to, PerryLover? Do you mean all that stuff in the official court documents about Belcher being a convicted felon, ripping off sick people for years, committing fraud, etc.? How about the 9 years of probation he has left to go? That's a very LONG probation period, by the way. You have to be a really BAD apple to get that lengthy of a probation period.
What's in your closet, PerryLover and SaltierDroid? People with any moral compass don't tend to buddy up to convicted felons unless they feel a kinship. The both of you probably have sordid pasts or something dark to hide. Why else would you be giving Belcher a hand job and ignoring the people he screwed as if they were just faceless old people who deserved to be ripped off?
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Aww Ms. Piggy Belcher has a gay fan club… that's so touching, why don't you go back to your fat-hotdog-and-ice-cream stuffing-mail-order-bride-buying-fake-musician-can't-even-play-3-chords-crooked-eyed-midget-troll lover and vogue your ass away from this blog
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hey girl back atcha! Coming to hang out for some real shenanigans…yes everything under control…
no scuffles really, just promoting some awareness…
How is our friend @masscontrolkern? still partying hardy?
Seen Fleece around? : P
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http://vimeo.com/6663809
Despite the evidence there will be some people that still will not get it..
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What has the Salty Droid done? He's probably given Belcher the best legal advice that one's ever received.
I wonder whether Belcher sees that those applauding him and encouraging him to go on with what he's been doing despite his terms of probation are actually putting him at risk of losing everything.
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Okay troll….
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That was done on purpose …. you guys needed the extra "o" in Loser… get a life!
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Considering that was a while back… get your facts straight dude
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Get a dictionary.
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I'm more of an elf actually.
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Hi Salty Droid,
While I could do with less of your *&^%^$$@& language…. :)
I do agree with you completely. It's a very good thing Belcher is no longer teaching social marketing or internet marketing. I am an internet marketer and work HARD and make a very nice living, but it is not easy and it is not fast…. It's taken years of building in an offline and online fashion. There is no magic pill for lasting success in anything.
Some things Belcher and people's reactions (and over the top defense of him) are reminding me of:
The way people were defending and saying"Free the Juice" when OJ was first on the run..
The way women defended Ted Bundy and wrote him love letters in jail…
of course comparing Belcher to both of them is way extreme I know.. (but then again, he did sell fake pills to people and gave them fake hope with serious diseases and health conditions… who knows what the ramifications have been for those people?) a sociopath is a sociopath and oftentimes they have a TON of charisma and are able to play the "poor me" victim card….
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Here's the news summary:
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/sep/30/...
Belcher's criminal probation documents:
http://www.saltydroid.info/wp-content/uploads/200...
Mike Young's take:
http://mikeyounglaw.com/wp/2008/04/16/perry-belch...
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We should all be lucky to have an elf like froylein! :)
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"What has the Salty Droid done? He's probably given Belcher the best legal advice that one's ever received."
Not Probably its a for sure…
and Knowing Salty- he gave Perry the damn best legal advice for free…
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That's a very good assessment, 2 Cents. 100% on the money. Couldn't agree more.
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Looks like there is a total B.S. post on the so-called "Warrior Forum" claiming that Belcher is quitting because of a "death threat." How utterly ridiculous (but not surprising, given the misfits that frequent that forum).
Look at how some of the LOSERS over there are sucking up to Perry and glossing right over his criminal history:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketi...
I'm guessing that "I Love Perry" who commented here earlier is actually Canadian MIKE HILL, a so-called internet marketer. His comments over there seem to mirror what was said by "I Love Perry" here. Is that you, little Mike? Do tell, "marketing genius," or whatever your mama uses to call you to dinner.
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"Considering that was a while back?" and "Get your facts straight dude?" The facts speak for themselves, Mike. Oh, I forgot, you believe in revisionism. Those thousands of sick people who turned to Belcher for medical help weren't actually defrauded? Or maybe it just doesn't matter to you because, "a buck is a buck," right? And so what if he Belcher scammed for YEARS and only just stopped LAST YEAR after he was actually CAUGHT (and not a moment before). Yeah, right. You're a piece of work.
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Hey, you Perry Loving troll, I see you came up from the lower depths of that cess pool of absurdity and WSO's (Warrior Special Offers) called the Warrior Forum. AKA the place where the mentally challenged and utterly stupid who are attempting IM hang out and the gurus like Belcher and Harlan are treated like celebrities.
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This is such an awesome blog because there is no way that anyone who has been caught by Belcher or any one of the scammers salty mentions on this site who will FORGET OR FORGIVE what they have done any time soon so no matter how many reincarnates they attempt they will always be exposed. Call everyone who speaks out against them losers or whatever you want but obviously anyone who says that is yet to be a sucker or is currently one. I categorically state that one of the best experiences in my life has been in the past getting caught by one of the people mentioned by Salty. I have now learnt not to trust anyone like them and least of all people who suck up to you wanting what is yours to fund their own lifestyles which is precisely what they do. I do not feel sorry for them and I certainly do not endorse their deceitful tactics and now I tell every single person I have anything to do with my personal experiences. It works.
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LMAO about "theft of Belcher's products!!! Why the hell would anyone waste their time downloading that pile of shiit and lies unless they are really stupid, desperate or someone known as an affiliate hoping to make money with and for Belcher and aid in his scams for their own monetary gain?
GO SALTY GO!!! I love this place for the truth and lies it exposes!
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You are exactly right. The internet scammer circle has had a free ride these past few years, and been able to get away with a lot. Not any more! People are becoming empowered to say something now when they feel ripped off. You are seeing it here and on other blogs. And those jerks who are supporting scammers (because they have something to hide themselves or are part of the scam apparatus) had better wake up, because the free ride is over. The internet is a permanent record of their scamming history.
On a practical note, adults rarely change years of ingrained behavior. People who feel comfortable lying and stealing might suppress that urge when people are watching them closely, but otherwise, look out. As the saying goes, "can a leopard change its spots?"
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Amen, Snap. What's really sad is that the Memphis news reports said Belcher had repeatedly received warnings going back to the late 90's from the BBB regarding complaints about his business practices and that he had an "F" rating.
He had more than fair warning and time to respond and address complaints but chose to ignore them. He hid behind the veil of the internet and used it expand his business geography. He didn't even try to handle his complaints and pushed his luck until arrested.
Belcher was stupid at best. That's why he's great fit over at the other forum known as the cess pool for the incompetent IM and their gurus they make celebrities.
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Why HELL YEAH, I bet you're right on the money with that guess Well- Well. Sure sounds like him given his remarks over at Warrior forum. Ugh, I feel really dirty just coming back from that place. Major YUCK.
Didn't Mike Hill himself recently launch some type of product with some of the gurus promoting it? And wasn't it a program on how to set up your own cpa type offer with the networks?
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Belcher only claims he received death threats because he thinks that’s what happens to “important people”. He just can’t stand the idea that, six months from now, people are going to be saying “Perry WHO”?
Or maybe he considers it a “death threat” if people threaten to force-feed him the fake medicine he sold to sick people.
Bye-Bye, Belcher! Go join your friend David Schirmer in social pariah scam-land! (Or as people say nowadays, “David WHO?”)
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Saltier Droid Reply:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:29 am
Bye, bye Droid. Your blog is about to descend into well-deserved anonymity now.
Without Belcher to mock and harass, you're just another wannabe, almost funny blog boy.
See ya around.
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SD Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 3:13 am
Hey Saltier Droid :: Remember how you said without Belcher I was going descend into obscurity … and then my very next topic surpassed the top Belcher posts in total views in less than one week? That was pretty awesome. It’s too bad you left this forum without ever getting something right.
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I think Hill calls his latest pitch "CPA Tsunami." Maybe the idea is…if you have little or nothing original to say, just wrap it all up in puffery and buzz words.
Hill has also been promoting Harlan Kilstein, who has been extensively written about in this very blog, and NOT favorably.
It looks like the Warrior Forum clique pulled their thread, although I know Salty has it in its entirety.
It's interesting over there at the Warrior Forum that often whenever anyone questions any of their "annointed ones" they either ban the questioner or pull the thread. Apparently someone on that thread expressed disappointment that the "regulars" over there were giving total knee-jerk support to a convicted felon (Belcher) with little regard to his crimes or victims. Says a LOT about the people over there.
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Oh yeah, that is just too funny about that place. They did the same thing to the threads about the Stompernet filings and Mr. Used Car Salesman Mike F'Me Filsaime's Affiliate Jump launch when they got too controversial.
Hmm…I do recall the title CPA Tsunami. Yes, gotta give old Mike Hill a couple of points for creativity for this one. Instead of the old usual how to beat Google or social media bs designed for the affiliate frauduct, I believe you're right that CPA Tsunami had a unique twist to the usual garbage product and targeted those wishing to design an affiliate offer to market to the cpa networks.
Some of those offers such as Acai Berry and Teeth Whitening recently caught the attention of Oprah and the FTC for false advertising claims, using Oprah and Dr Oz's images and the usual fine print continuity offer that is impossible to cancel. Just another version of the Belcher type programs. Heck, even Perry Dee's HOTDOG program locks you into to a month trial of his shiit unless you cancel.
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Yup, the yapping dogs are feeling victorious because someone shook them off his pants leg.
Yeah, the world needs another lawyer. I'd prefer one who doesn't condone and encourage theft, myself.
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An even better question is what kind of simple-minded, masturbatory, mouth-breathing, kuckle-dragging dweeb would encourage people to steal someone else's product?
Me, I love this place for the unintended comic elements when self-righteous losers gather to commiserate.
Bleep, blurp, etc.
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No, it's not about defending Belcher, it's about pointing out the rampant hypocrisy on this site.
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You self-righteous turds don't think that this stuff affects Belcher's kids? You don't think the droid's blend of half-truths, snark, thievery ,and libel is exclusive to adults on the net? Ever think about what would happen if the kids' classmates read the crap the droid peddles?
Oh, yeah.
I forgot.
Belcher brought it on himself.
Bullshit.
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At least this site is distracting you from taking candy from babies and ripping people off yourself, which makes it a very valuable public service. Please, continue defending crooks and charlatans (as though it were your family honor). It's keeping you off the streets and benefiting humanity, a group that is all too foreign to you.
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Not going to happen. Too many bigger fish out there to fry.
Hell, old Mike F'me Filsaime hasn't even been profiled here yet?
Or how about his protege Keith Wellman and his dad Jeff Wellman (who became an IM GURU in a month with no prior experience and help of sone keith)? Keith Wellman is so bad that the even the mentally ill and retarded over at the Warrior Forum caught on to him and banned him!!!!
The Queen of Super Stupid Ms. Maria Andros and her clan of fugyly woman like Barefoot Executive Carrie Wilkerson, both good friends of Belcher, Harlan and F'me Filsaime.
That's just the tip of the iceburg of who really needs to be profiled here next.
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You shouldn't keep listening to all those voices in your head, because they're lying to you. There are plenty of scammers waiting in line for their attention here. Maybe you'll be featured yourself eventually. And seeing Belcher throw in the towel (even if just for "show") is proof that public sentiment really does matter. Get used to it.
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It's a good thing Ted Bundy didn't have kids. Otherwise, they would have had to gently spank him and send him home with milk and cookies for the kids. You're an idiot, saltier. Plain and simple.
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Web Dictionary :: For Dummies
Troll {noun}: A first time commenter who calls a regular commenter a troll.
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Salty keep up the good work.
Your skills as a robot are top notch.
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Listen sweetie …. why are you here if you're so convinced of Ms Piggy Belcher's greatness??? Seems like you DO have doubts, otherwise you wouldn't be in here trying to convince us of whatever it is you're trying to communicate. Why don't you and your idol go catch the drag show at your local gay club and call it a night…
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LOL @Fact so true!
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Warrior forum has become a waste of time, that place is so f'in censored. I wrote of Kargorilla back in '07 when I opened my account, and they deleted and delete most posts (and keep deleting any posts) where I out anyone. Actually, the only person they let me talk about in any type of negative light is Miss. Maria (I am a bobble head) Andros. Go figure. She gets her little trolls to come by and ask, has anyone heard of Maria Andros, social blueprint…and then another little troll comes in and says….the owner make millions through twitter alone….
As Malkovich said in rounders….it's a f*ck*n joke anyways…..
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketi...
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The warrior forum is similar to a breeding ground for mosquitos…people all trying to sell each other something…usually some rehashed garbage they heard someplace else. Few people would share their "really" profitable methods in a place like that. Mostly nickel and dime stuff…it's like a great big dustbowl for newbies and people with long-term inertia. The smart ones don't stay there long…they get out and learn from doers and not the self-aggrandizing theory junkies and bullies that hang out there just typing and scratching themselves all day long.
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The only time I get on that site anymore is for laughs when I hear of something such as this from another forum or blog. I am just literally amazed at the stupidity over there; they just inbreed stupidity amongst themselves and it's out of control.
I get on Wicked Fire sometimes for updated info on cpa offers and adwords changes to see what's happening out there, but the teenager immaturity and porn isn't my thing.
It was pretty funny last winter when some Warrior trolls came over to Wicked Fire to stir up trouble and the Wicked Fire boys took some Warrior troll woman named Kim down in the serps and defamed her reputation.
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That youtube video is freaking hilarious!!
That guy Wagenheim introduces his "SON, Jerry," on the video…and his son turns out to be a ventriloquist's dummy! And then he proceeds to have a conversation and argument with the dummy.
That's something you don't often see in internet marketing circles. Or anywhere else, for that matter.
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I'm confident that Belcher did not make a fortune on his latest course :: and I'm sure he's not smiling.
But I too am highly skeptical that we've heard his last scammy belch :: If he comes back … I'll Be Right Here Waiting for Him
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@SaltierDroid ::
This blog came from anonymity :: and is as of yet unascended. Unlike all your top IM Guru Heroes … I think I'll wait to claim success until I've actually had some.
I'm sorry you're not funny. Keep on trying … eventually even non-funny people can get the hang of it.
I don't think we share similar "arounds" :: so don't count on seeing me.
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Title: Re: A meta-gasm?
Post by: Love on September 12, 2009, 04:40:10 PM
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Which rubric might we place this => http://www.saltydroid.info/perry-belcher-surrende...
Quote from: Broken AI on November 20, 2008, 08:26:58 PM
nifty.
That Salty Droid avatar almost cost me my $4k a month paycheck delivery mechanism.
That would have sucked.
AI, your work is Art, the site above is the work of a puritanical muggle.
I'm sure i "deserve" their attention. i "outed" Paulie after he appeared to steal $160K+
from me and our partners.
AI, if you sincerely want to cause me harm… that's your ticket.
I hope there is a way in which you can see me as a constructive partner,
at least in terms of spread a Bucky Virus.
Respectfully,
Ben
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This above was taken from the website below.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php...
Ben is Ben Mack? Who is Al? What is meant by the reference to the Salty Droid avatar?
I will be interesting to see if these posts remain or if they are removed.
Can you explain this – Salty, anyone?
Though I question if Perry Evil Jowls' sudden decision to retire may have been more along the lines of something to do with toeing the line on his probation terms or whatever, and possibly harming reputation of Ryan's business if that's even possible, major kudos to you for your efforts in this.
One down for the count, many more to go…who's next on the list to take the next fall?
Kilstein, Dennis K, btw, wasn't he on Fox News? So many more to go.
Please answer questions.
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[...] Jowls is gone :: Surrendered in a heap of disgrace and excess body [...]
That crew over at Warrior are the bottom feeders of the IM hierarchy. The sad thing is those long term theory junkies and bullies who prey on the rest of the crowd with coaching and wso. My moniker du jour, in honor of chief Warrior himself, Steve Wagenheim aka "i make 6 figures a year now" (omfg like does he have clue that some can do that in month or even day) is one of the saddest cases. He makes it peddling his wso and articles to the new and clueless there. Is this not sad or what
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Wagenheim seems creepy… reminds me a little of the old Psycho movies with "Norman Bates" type of creepy
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Taken out of context.
The November 20, 2008 date refers to the quote of Broken AI on the thread stating "nifty."
Ben's response, dated September 12, 2009, refers to the Salty Droid avatar. Salty Droid being Jason who operates this site.
Ben it talking about Salty's September 11, 2009 post
http://www.saltydroid.info/perry-belcher-surrende...
The $4K mo. probably refers to Ben's compensation from Stompernet.
Broken AI's profile on the site you reference identifies his website as
http://psyonetiks.co.uk/
That website is registered to one Liam Heraty based in the United Kingdom.
Don't look for fnords where they don't exist. They're everywhere else. {END TRANSMISSION}
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It seems that Ryan Scheiss has begged his followers to threaten and try to shut up Mike Young the other lawyer exposing Piggy Belcher. He posted about receiving threats and he let them know what happened to the last person that did that …. wow I never knew Internet Marketers were such a ghetto ass crowd when it comes to being exposed for their lies… http://mikeyounglaw.com/wp/2009/08/28/perry-belch...
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To clarify.
Ryan Deiss did ask a group of big info product marketers for help in silencing me and Salty Droid. However, he denies responsibility for the threats and I'll take him at his word on that issue.
As for the business threats, I took that in stride. The bulk of my revenues has never been from representing the IM crowd.
One of the overzealous gurus got "stomped" if you get my drift. Most expensive mistake he made in business this year and that was just a taste of what could have been done given the number of skeletons in that particular closet. No need to go nuclear. The response was proportionate to the offense.
The personal threats I'll assume came from a few cult followers who drank too much Kool Aid. Both Ryan and Perry do have families with kids. I'm 99% sure that because of this, they wouldn't have made the personal threats.
Best wishes,
-Mike
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Ben almost lost his $4K mo. gig because Andy Jenkins is an EgoTrain fool and was 100% certain that Ben was The Droid {wrong!}.
It's easier for Ben to blame his troubles on me than to admit he works for useless :: idiot :: scammers.
And for the record :: His cryptic, self-referential, lost in pseudo-science, writing style is NOTHING like mine!
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I refuse to take Ryan at his word about anything :: Because he lies, cheats, and steals for a living. I consider this ghetto ass move the low point of the project so far ::
http://www.saltydroid.info/dmca-claims-part-2/
It won't be forgiven or forgotten.
Well timed :: excellently planned :: impeccably drafted HELL comes for Ryan. His info scamming girlfriends had better start donating to his legal defense fund.
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Scary! I can't wait to see the walls comin' crumblin' down on Mr. Ryan Scheissdreck!
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Thanks for the clarification. I'm not familiar with Ben.
So this crownd of scammers has had some paranoia amongst themselves and fear that one of their very own was masquerading as you?
Hmm…interesting. Understandable, didn't you start the Salty Droid at the old WP site right after the first of the year? Right after all the StomperNet shit hit the fan and Andy/Brad spat began in December of '08?
How long have you been tracking these guys and what led you to start blogging about them first of the year? Do I smell a class action suit down the road in your career path? What can I do to help?
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Ha Ha, Carrie Wilkerson and Maria Andros can get to work on that right away and Belcher BFF Carrie will be heading up the scam collection plate since she lives nearby in TX. Hey, maybe that's what her super secret, closed door event down in San Antonio is for next weekend. Did you get the secret link to that? (Shhh…it's only for close friends, keep it a secret.)
Can you update us, your very loyal supporters and devoted fans, on the status of the counter notifications you were filing on the dcma claims and if a lawsuit has been filed yet?
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I’m usually not one to post on such controversial blogs/threads but I had to get some clarification here…I’ve been in the Internet Marketing field for over 18 months now and have had quite a bit of success (from various niche products I have built)…
If I were to take all of my knowledge and spend months and months in developing a high-quality video course, and then I launch the product with a high price tag (like $497…and I honestly feel my product is worthy of that price point) then how does this label me as a scammer? Or does it?…
After all, time is money…and I am investing months and months to develop a high quality and step-by-step solution for the customer…and if they want to download my product and get a full-refund, so be it.
How is there wrong in that?
I’d appreciate your guy’s feedback on this…not trying to gain enemies here, just looking for some clarification…because the last thing I would want is to have my name listed on this blog in the futuer…lol.
So in a nutshell, my question is…how can I still make good money from the IM field without having my name posted here like Perry’s? :-)
Cheers,
Jake
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Huh Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
This is not an advice blog. This is a “what to avoid” blog. Hopefully froylein will show mercy on your linguistic soul, dude.
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I can no longer find the news report that talked about the seizure and subsequent sale of his house and fancy cars. Anyone have a link?
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December 11th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
See comments here:
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Stealth Stinger Reply:
December 19th, 2009 at 7:56 am
well you’re not a very intersting spammer are you? ;-)
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