Maria Andros: She is God {maybe}
Step into your roll as an expert :: Even if you didn’t make any money last year :: Because it’s all about perception. ~Maria Andros, The Video Marketing Queen {whose videos go unwatched}.
Calling yourself an expert when you are not one :: making claims about income, status, and success to support your claimed expert status :: and then charging people $3,000 per head for access to your non-expertise :: is fraud. But that doesn’t bother Maria Andros :: Because she’s way too stupid to understand how big of a risk she is taking :: And she’s learned to speak the manipulative language of the exploiter. Once you learn that trick :: it’s hard to go back behind the make-up counter.
This video was put together by our good friend _cartman_ :: and posted to the comments. But it totally shames a D-bag :: and I didn’t have to do any of the work myself :: So it needs its own post. Great job _cartman_!!
Maria’s first appearance on this blog was directly connected with her association, promotion, and “partnership” with Not-Doctor Kilstein. She was warned :: and she did not heed that warning. Since the first post went up :: I have learned MANY of Maria’s personal demons. Stories of her sins :: and personally embarrassing details :: started pouring into The Droid’s mailbox. My attention focused the attention of others … and Maria finds herself :: and her lies :: in a very uncomfortable place.
If I have taken the time to issue you a warning about Harlan Kilstein :: You best fucking comply.
>> bleep bleep
UPDATE :: _cartman_ videos Part 2 :: learn how to stay away from the ‘garbage people’ in your life without paying Maria ‘thousands’ an hour for coaching.









where the hell are the comments??? I need to be able to read what people are saying about this hooka.
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thankful i didn't buy their shit Reply:
September 15th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
@what the fuck,
I hate this horse-faced cunt…that is all…
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Maria Assclown Mandros Reply:
September 16th, 2010 at 8:28 am
@thankful i didn’t buy their shit, that is not nice to insult horses like that. I should call PETA on you!
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sumi Reply:
December 13th, 2011 at 3:57 am
lol
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zoomguyphotographer Reply:
January 22nd, 2013 at 8:27 am
She wrote she “helped to created a 1.1 milion company” in less than 48 hours in linkendin. And then in her facebook profile she says it was in less than 72 hours. Take a look at this http://www.linkedin.com/in/diyanaalcheva She has been charging a single personal coaching for 500 bucks!!!! Now she is in despair because she is making No money and creat an online survey for people answer presenting them with a free personal 500 k coaching!! Take a look at this “I need your help” http://www.icontact-archive.com/FBkbi1IUxiF3krjJLLCjKxLzLtDfqU8y?w=1
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zoomguyphotographer Reply:
January 22nd, 2013 at 8:29 am
@thankful i didn’t buy their shit, Like Maria Andros, Diyana Alcheva has no educational and professional background. She and Maria Andros is part of the “Futuristic marketing group” from Jonathan Budd. She quit college (Portland community college) after the first year and has now been living in America illegally!!! How come american government has been allowing her to live there??? Do you have a reseanable answer for that??? It d be GREAT if you use your video skills and amazing creativity to unmask the false internet marketing enterpreneur Didi Alcheva!!!
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zoomguyphotographer Reply:
January 22nd, 2013 at 8:22 am
S he wrote she “helped to createda 1.1 milion company” in less than 48 hours in linkendin. And then in her facebook profile she says it was in less than 72 hours.
Take a look at this http://www.linkedin.com/in/diyanaalcheva
She has been charging a single personal coaching for 500 bucks and she doesn’t worth iy!!!! Now she is in despair because she is making No money and creat an online survey for people answer presenting them with a free personal 500 k coaching!! Take a look at this “I need your help” http://www.icontact-archive.com/FBkbi1IUxiF3krjJLLCjKxLzLtDfqU8y?w=1 Like Maria Andros, she has no educational background and real professional experience. She and Maria Andros is part of the “Futuristic marketing group” from Jonathan Budd. She quit college (Portland community college) after the first year and has now been living in America illegally!!! How come american government has been allowing her to live there??? Do you have a reseanable answer for that??? It d be GREAT if you use your video skills and amazing creativity to unmask the false internet marketing enterpreneur Didi Alcheva!!!
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Lanna Reply:
January 22nd, 2013 at 6:02 pm
@zoomguyphotographer,
She’s probably a D-teamer, so let’s not drag her name through the mud too much. And it looks like she’s into MLM, so she’s a victim as well as a perpetrator.
Her LinkedIn and Facebook make the same claim – 48 hours – right now. Here’s the exact quote from her LinkedIn:
Google can’t find any results when I search futuristicmarketing.com for her name. Do you have a link?
The U.S. immigration system is fucked. No matter what your views on how it should be, right now it’s fucked. That’s how she’s here.
But then again she is pimping Ryan Deiss’s Traffic and Conversion Formula Summit in that email. And she was pimping Mike Dillard back in 2010.
The list of unicorns in her survey are highlarious:
Emphasis mine. I wish we would all stop branding ourselves. The smell of burning flesh is getting pretty intense.
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This hooka is not even in Beverly Hills. Sepulveda BLVD??? LMFAO
And yea your privacy protection isn’t working. We can still find out who you are ;)
WHOIS information for socialmediatrafficblueprint.com :
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I’m wondering how in the world a bimbo like Maria Andros got to be included in the little “expert” circle..perhaps she sucked Frank Kern’s dick and Old Harlan Kilstein showed her some FINGER healing along with giving her a demonstration of his Christian Blow Jobs.
Yea that would qualify her for being a SOCIAL media expert.
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Is the results of getting fingered (healed) by Harlan?
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Hell hath no fury like a salty droid on a mission to clean up the cess pool of filth that is known as “internet marketing.” Keep up the awesome work. Fuck that deadbeat ultra lib socialist loser Barry Obama…the Nobel Peace prize should have gone to Salty!!
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Hello all,
I’ve been very afraid to come out, because of a very misunderstood medical condition. I have seen what Harlan Kilstein has done to others, and all these years I was too afraid to ask for a refund. I know there are many of you coming here who are also afraid.
I have thought and thought and thought about this long and hard. Because of who and what I am, I am an easy target of Harlan Kilstein. Like so many of you, I gave Harlan Kilstein my last dollar, at the most critical time of my life. I also thought it was my fault that I didn’t make all the big money that harlan made mention of in his sales pages and in the programs.
I have spoken with SaltyDroid on the phone and I have given him the green light to bring my story out in the open after tomorrow. I don’t know whether I’m courageous or crazy to get in the Harlan Kilstein line of fire, but I know I have to stand up for myself.
It is my hope that after you read my story that you too will be encouraged to come out and ask for your refunds. I don’t expect you to understand me or my story, but all I hope for is that if you are afraid to come out and get what’s rightfully yours that you know you can. If enough of us band together we can force him out of business and try to recoup whatever money.
There are more of us here and there is only 1 Harlan Kilstein.
Thank you.
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Hmmmm….have we been taken over? Gravatar? Isn’t that the force that keeps us from floating away to space? Is intense debate coming back?
First I want to second the nomination for salty to be getting the nobel peace pize. Salty for president!
Some bad news for ya Salty, I only hit one of her damn “interviews” (well 1 1/20th if you consider the 6 digit insert…just to show how she lies about making a lot of income to entice students to join her..and after they are students, be honest about making next to nothing, so they will not ask for their money back, and be prepared to wait for the “riches”). There are still so many lies yet to be compiled and exposed, which I left for you to have the “fun” of doing. :)
Lets see, there’s the ebay deceptions, her past jobs (and salary), real metrics (like the 32.5 people out of 46,000 which actually follow her….or the 30 odd “youtube subscribers” out of 4K that actually take the time to watch her videos (which she has now stopped putting up)….oh damn…I didn’t even include how she told students not to use youtube (but that was another q&A session), so low views won’t be questioned, and people can still appear to be experts (in other words no metrics to quantify the truth). Miss 6 fingers used 99designs to have her logo created, and she offered lower then anyone ($150 as oppposed to $250+ that most people pay). I even question if she paid that much, as most pay the company, and it gets paid out to the designer, but she paid the designer directly (I guess dealing with such big payouts…she was worried). Her 55K job turned to a lower paying job in her PDF she doesn’t know is still online….get it fast as it probably will be gone as soon as she knows its available….and don’t say I don’t share anything revolting with you guys… :)
http://www.videomarketingqueen.com/VMCode.pdf
And the best is this statement from her “report”
“Like I said I am able to reach the masses now, I also believe that every entrepreneur in their heart has a message, a story to tell, and I believe that that message needs to be shared with the world.”- Maria Andros
That was nov ’08 (oh yeah…her first “class” was december ’08 according to one of her “students” (get this…that claims he never took her course)……so this report was written before she did anything…but whatever…now it’s all about “personal attention” and small groups….not about the masses…what a crock of hooey. As far as I know, nobody got this report (and with good reason).
WINNER!! ::
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that pdf is hilarious I mean this woman really thinks she is a star lmao!!
“I am able to walk into seminars now, where
people want to take pictures of me. I have even been recognized more than just
a few times when I am out having fun in public on my downtime at a restaurant
for example in LA. I am so humbled by it all and I really appreciate all my loyal
fans for their ongoing love and support”
She is really ill in the head. She needs to get to a psychiatrist fast.
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i heard that maria andros was an “escort”
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 14th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Yeah…I told her one time she should be an escort….
I saw her in a car as passenger one day going beep, beep, beep, beep faster and faster and with more urgency….I wondered what the hell was going on…I asked her what the hell she was doing….She informed me she was a radar detector….I said “an escort no doubt”…..she said “yeah, how did you know…that’s so weird…I’m psychotic too”. I responded, “yeah, you appear gifted”, and sped off.
I had to wash my mind out with bleach that evening…I’m still not the same.
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Escort? Is that a code word for yoga instructor?
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What Maria fails to tell you is that she was literally involved with scamming people along with DK and Jimmie Davis. That was when she literally started out learning how to attract and scam people out of their money by literally telling them she would coach and train them with what she literally learned from these other bozo’s.
Maria was literally involved in the biggest way with this scam called MLM Goldmine.
They literally taught you how to use video, not in a cool way, but to literally put up as many stupid videos about literally nothing to get your videos on the top pages of google.
Yes google literally loves video…and back then you could literally do a video about nothing and use your description, title and tags to literally “lie” to google in regards to what the content was about.
DK MLM Goldmine literally taught how to deceive people by literally using thumbnails half way in your video of nothing relevant to the video. ie. sex chic, famous person, pic of what was “in the news” to entice people to literally open the video only to be disappointed by what they literally saw as a lie.
Maria along with DK and Jimmie literally promised hand holding and coaching for 2000.00, but as soon as you paid your 2k they literally gave you a cheesy home study course that was literally a bunch of bad videos and literally full of stupid information. And the coaching, hand holding and even hearing from them ever again was literally non existent.
They literally taught you to brand yourself, while in reality you were literally branding them. They literally gave everyone instruction to set up their MYSPACE pages exactly the same as theirs. Which literally said “Hi, I am the creator and author of MLM Goldmine” or “I am the creator of the Universe”
Literally every myspace page was the same…a long boring story about how you left corporate America and you were literally an overnight success. Their definition of success was that you put up a stupid video. Their definition of success was that you were the author and creator of creating a myspace page.
The only video testimonials were the ones they literally did for each other. Which DK literally still has his “students” do to this day.
All of it is literally bullshit and hype, it literally brands them as they encourage you to use their names, their formula which is recognized immediately as DK MLM CRAPOLA.
Step into the leadership role by saying you are the author and creator of bullshit. Step into the expert in your field role even though you are not. Call yourself a coach, trainer and mentor even if you are not…tell people that you have literally “free leads and traffic chasing you” even if you have not.
The best part, enter a video competition where you could literally win a lifetime scholarship to DK and Jimmie’s MLMgoldmine training. But be sure to mention MLM Goldmine in it, after all this is about branding “you” Literally Laughable!
The videos poured in and were to be posted on DK’s Squidoo page…creating a high ranking because of video content and traffic.
Literally it was all about them, and not you.
There is literally so much more that can be revealed about that scam, however I am literally tired of typing and literally sick of using the word “literally”
Another thing they taught a few people back then was to literally install things like Firefox ReloadEvery…which literally reloaded the video page at time intervals that you could set it to reload every minute if you wanted. With youtube insight now you literally cannot do that anymore.
This literally gave some videos more views than others, and since the scholarship competition was based on how many views your video got they could literally pick who they wanted to win by sharing this goldmine of a secret to the people they wanted in their scamming circle.
I heard that after they picked their winners and the contest was over they literally gave Karin Hiebert a free lifetime scholarship even though she never mentioned mlmgoldmine in her video…but they gave her the scholarship because she literally called them on their scam.
It literally gave her the opportunity to see what this course was all about. She literally never sold one of the Goldmine Training Programs because she saw how sick and disgusting the training was for 2k…
Karin literally stayed involved with them to keep an eye on what they do and continue to do. If you really want to learn more about Maria Andros, and the boys from golmine who are all into the MLSP and Mike Dillard crap, I would be pretty certain that if you emailed Karin Hiebert that she would literally give you her honest opinion about Maria Andros, Dennis Karganilla, Jimmie Davis, and their past and present scams.
Seriously, Literally, and even virtually she would!
WINNER!! ::
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Cartman, congrats on the video debut and thank you. This is a very sad situation.
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escort? that must have been the real escort Harlan Kilstein kept mentioning
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That little PDF is just precious. Everyone should read it! Here are some choice tidbits:
“Hello and welcome to this free report.”
[Thank you, I've never been welcomed to a free report before.]
“So what I did is, I picked up the phone and I phoned this person, and I basically spoke with him.”
[That's the most recommended way to use a phone, yes. For speaking. Or in your case, spoking.]
“And because I’ve seen in the past 16 months, even with myself, what works, what doesn’t work, I was able to put together a step-by-step system and know how to even duplicate it with my students, because I did the trial and error, and I saw how fast it happened for me.”
[Translation: hurry up and buy this chronicle of my flash-in-the-pan experience before someone points out I can't - and you can't - repeat it.]
“Basically, the thing for me, though, is it hasn’t been about the money.”
[Of course not. It's been about the red carpet. And helping other people attain their own carpets, whatever the color.]
“…you know when they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, well, imagine what a video is worth.”
[More than a thousand words?]
“A video is powerful because people can see your body language.”
[Yes, they can see either your body or your language. And if one of those fails you, the other can pick up the slack.]
“your videos are almost like your little employees. They make money for you while you eat, while you play and while you sleep.”
[Cool. Have your video contact my video and work out a deal.]
“Would you buy from site A or site B? The first one that there’s not much on there, there’s no video, and mostly text? On the second website there people are telling their story sharing how the vitamins have helped them? Well, I personally would definitely go with website B.”
[That's genius! And, you just gave away your entire program right there and saved us $3,000. Thanks, Maria!]
WINNER!! ::
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Everyone, look here:
Maria wants some input from YOU! She has a survey just for you:
http://bit.ly/11scWm
Be sure to let her know you heard about it here on the Salty Droid’s blog!
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Gawd…you guys are a howl….I love the humor!!!
Check out the link to Tania Gabrielle’s seminar….I didn’t want to say anything until she claimed to have sold out…but this was just too classic not to share….looks like another back to back 5 digit month.
http://twitter.com/taniagabrielle
It has been like that since the 8th, apparently none of her 33K followers clicks her shit.
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Tania Gabrielle, “Celebrity Numerologist.” Interesting.
I was thinking about ordering her “Is My Name Fortunate?” report for only $86.99 (normally $136.99). However, I’m not exactly sure what I’d do with that information, especially if the answer came back, “no.”
I think I’ll wait and see if she offers a product along the lines of, “Is My Zip Code Fortunate?”
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Maria always struck me as a weirdo. Her videos she seems so self-involved and narccistic. The people buying her courses must be pathetics.
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Hey, don’t you be mocking Tania Gabrielle, she was the first one to predict the new president (and only two days after the election), so you know she has a tremendous gift.
I mean you don’t make back to back 5 digits month just by providing a 404 (that’s an 8 number…that’s not a number of success…why? 8 is an infiniti symbol….infiniti is a car…cars kill…need I say more!) page not found link as an early bird bonus ….you also have to work hard and predict the future as soon after it happens as possible, otherwise people won’t take you seriously.
Now 11 is a powerful number. Think about it, 11 is like two sticks, chopsticks is like two sticks. You eat sushi with chopsticks, sushi is fish, fish has omega 3′s, omega 3 is an antioxidant, all anti’s have uncle’s…uncle sam is the national personification of the USA, the president of the usa is Obama…obama is an 11 number (please don’t ask me how I know)….If that isn’t the weirdest thing….I don’t know what is. Spooky!!
WINNER!! ::
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Hey guys, …here’s a copy of page one results from a gmail account search results for Tania…take a look at some of these winning headlines from Ms. Gabriellle…
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and…how about page two below…and these winning headlines
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Majic formula for these winning headlines from Ms. Gabrille …pick an event/person in the news that day and create story relating to numerology. Wow.
I’m not sure, but I believe that Rich Shefron , Harlan’s former hypnosis center buddy, is behind Maria and her groupies. Somebody has been writing copy for Maria lately.
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please tell more Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 8:28 am
please tell me more about Rich Shefron and Harlan’s hypnosis clinic? Was it really a hypnosis clinic inside of a Boca Raton Stripmall? Was Rich the guy that got Harlan into IM
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pseudonymous Reply:
October 28th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Now, I’m really, really curious why someone would ask this question now? I don’t know anymore to tell you. I think Schefron is a total joke. His basic information is probably ok for someone like Andros or someone without any business background but I think it’s worthless BS. IMO. Somebody ought to look him up and see if he actually passed the cpa exam.
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I would like to personally thank Cartman for connecting all the dots above and saving us the cost of attending Tania’s seminar. The resulting savings, incidentally, happens to be our “lucky” number.
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I am a little puzzled by the article referred to above, by Tania Garbrielle: “Why Your Current Name Matters.” What, exactly, does she mean by, “current?” Is this an editorial to counter that proposal for scratch-off driver’s licenses where you get a new name with each renewal?
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canyouexplainthisplease Reply:
October 10th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Why Ralph, let me open that email and give you Tani’s view. It’d be my pleasure….
Tania Gabrielle to me
show details Sep 17
Name Numerology – Why Your Current Name Matters
Hi andrews,
Several recent news stories point out the
importance of current names.
Even without knowing any other information, such as a
person’s birthday or birth name, a current name
reveals HOW someone’s life is activated.
Yesterday we heard the news that Mary Travers had
passed away. She was part of the famous folk singing
trio ‘Peter, Paul and Mary’ a name which adds up
to the wonderful 24/6. You may have heard of their hit
songs ‘Leaving on a Jet Plane’ and ‘Puff the
Magic Dragon’ – both of which have highly
fortunate name numbers as well.
Then there’s Kevin Skinner who just won the big
prize on America’s Got Talent after beating out
100,000 other contestants. Again here’s someone with
a fabulous current name number, 42/6.
On the other side of the coin the shocking story of
Yale grad student Annie Le’s death is in the news
right now. Several numbers are combining in this case
that point to the sudden, fateful event on September
8.
Unfortunately, ‘Annie Le’ adds up to 16/7 – a
number that can take someone to great heights, yet at
the same time can suddenly cut them down.
I call 16/7 the ‘Lincoln Number’ because he was
the 16th President and his name ‘Abraham Lincoln’
adds up to 16 too.
The man currently under arrest, ‘Raymond Clark’,
has a 17/8 current name. He was arrested today,
September 17 an 8 Day. I suspect he has more 4s or 8s
in his birth blueprint to set off this fateful
combination. Annie Le was last seen on September 8th.
Clark’s girlfriend ‘Jennifer Hromadka’ has a
13/4 current name.
Again, I don’t have their birth info, but these
names and dates give powerful clues.
You may have heard of Gavin Grube who was found by
his devoted mother Avril on Facebook after a 27 year
search. Gavin had disappeared when he was taken at age
3 to Hungary by Avril’s estranged husband.
Notice the 27 years first – three complete 9-year
cycles. Jaycee Lee Dugard was also found after the
full completion of 9-year cycles – in her case it
was 18/9 years.
Well, Gavin Grube’s current name adds up to 16/7,
again a name number I would not recommend because it
can attract sudden events. His mom ‘Avril Grube’
has a 13/4 current name, another vibration attracting
unforeseen situations.
Let’s look at some celebrities in the news.
Notice how of all the Kardashian sisters it is Kim
who gets the most attention.
Well no surprise there. Her name ‘Kim Kardashian’
adds up to 14/5 – the Media number. She’ll keep
getting media attention, good or bad.
Same goes for Kanye West. His name ‘Kanye’ is a
14/5 and so is ‘Kanye West’. His sorry incident on
stage with Taylor Swift gave him the kind of media
attention no one wants – but he’s on people’s
minds, he’s appearing on TV shows, and that’s what
his name will guarantee.
As for Taylor Swift, I recommend she change the
spelling of her name to ‘Taylore Swift’ which will
protect her in the future.
Her current spelling adds up to 31/4, attracting
fateful events – and this is especially true because
she is born on a 13/4 Day and has a 13/4 Destiny.
The incident where Kanye interrupted her acceptance
speech on Sunday even occurred on September 13.
Now keep this in mind. Having any of these numbers in
your Birth blueprint is Not a negative. For example
Taylor’s two 13s indicate great genius and the
ability to stay true to her unique voice.
But when it comes to your Current name, there are
certain numbers you just don’t want to have.
Some name vibrations will create a theme in your life
that’s challenging and other numbers will do the
opposite – create opportunities and give you
protection.
It’s why you want to make extra sure your current
name resonates to a helpful, fortunate number.
Check your name in the ‘Is My Name Fortunate’ report
here – http://taniagabrielle.com/fortunate_name.html
Warmest Regards,
Tania Gabrielle
About the Author
Tania Gabrielle, Celebrity Numerologist, Radio
Host and Author of “The Unrevealed Secrets of
Political Success: How Names and Dates Shape
United States History” advises thousands of
clients around the world. She helps Entrepreneurs,
CEOs, Parents and Children to attract Wealth,
Peace of Mind and Success. Also a highly popular
guest on radio shows across North America and
Europe, Gabrielle reveals the meaning of current events
and gives live readings.
As a composer, Tania Gabrielle has enjoyed
performances worldwide by Grammy-award-winning
artists.
This email is protected by copyright, 2009,
Music Dreaming, Inc. All rights reserved.
Reproduction of any portion of this email is
strictly prohibited without the express written
consent of Music Dreaming, Inc.
http://taniagabrielle.com
http://www.artabundance.com
Tania Gabrielle
Music Dreaming, Inc.
110 Valley View Drive
Sedona, AZ 86336, USA
928 282 1424 Phone
928 282 1422 FAX
tania@taniagabrielle.com
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Ralph Reply:
October 11th, 2009 at 12:41 am
I guess this part kind of sums it up: “…when it comes to your Current name, there are certain numbers you just don’t want to have. Some name vibrations will create a theme in your life…”
Interesting how she capitalized the “C” in “current.” It’s the kind of randomness You See in emails from Some enterprising Nigerians. Still, that reference to “Current name” has me wondering if you might actually receive a new name as a ”fast action bonus.” I’d accept “Hank” or “Pepe” if either vibrates properly and can create a “post-modern” theme in my life.
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Oh man…why did you make me look her up…
What kills me….is that she was in “financial” peril (according to her interview with Andros) before taking her course, but how is that possible when she claims to be making 10K/month. Oh right….it’s to keep up that lifestyle in “aridzona”. With the luxury cars in the driveway….Who knew…Funny she has been spamming on the internet since 2006…unlike the newbie Andros. Tania Gabrielle French is a seasoned vet.
I wonder what she considers her deceptions.
————-
Here’s what else I discovered:
There’s A BIG Difference Between Winners and Losers!
Winners pay their bills on time. Losers don’t. Winners talk about their ideas. Losers talk about others. Winners honor their word. Losers revert to lies. Winners feel gratitude. Losers feel guilty.
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http://www.creativeriches.com/index.htm
http://www.artabundance.com/secretpower.htm
hmmmmm….after wading through those nasties…..I think I will go take a music bath….I hope I don’t get burned with scalding hot music.
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httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4UQPbBeEYU
Check it out I think you’ll love it.
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Grommet Reply:
October 10th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I’d nominate it for a grammy, but I think it would be more appropriate if it won a scammy. Good job, Boz. Hope you don’t mind me calling you Boz. It’s just easier than Mr. The Clown.
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canyouexplainthisplease Reply:
October 10th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
LMAO!!!!
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hahaha….great video….loved it!!
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Feeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck is this the sorry state of the IM market? I can’t believe cunt douchebag liars like this whore is actually being rewarded for her insulting lies. This CANNOT be happening. I have to have more faith in the intelligence of the average person than to think it’s just as ridiculously easy as this to make money exploiting the rainbow chasers.
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They’re criminals but they’re also CRAZY….An asylum is where they belong.
And you know what…it’s not just this kind of stuff, there’s girl out there doing hand analysis other crazy stuff supposedly raking in big bucks a la Dan Kennedy mastermind stuff.
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Hey guys, when I first noticed Maria Andros, she was tagging her videos and mimicking some chick named Ali Brown. INC 500 this year.
One of the chicks in Ali Brown’s mastermind circle is a hand analyst and I’ll paste her email copy below. Are these people real? Is this a cult of band of prostitutes or something?
Take a read below and look up Ali Brown Inc 500. She’s also got some Oprah clone magazine out and has been doing local media. Also, note below, the name of the Photographer is Lesly Bohm, the one Maria used in her fake videos. Is this a connection?
C’est Moi, courtesy of the photographic talents of Lesley Bohm (bohmphotography.com) and makeup/hair expertise of Tamara Gold (tamaragold.com)!
This week’s issue is about TRANSFORMATION!
For me, it was time for a new look to express the joy in my heart and my growing courage to express more and more of my soul in my business! And did I ever receive a new ‘image’ to peer back at me. The picture above is one of over 300 that Lesley Bohm, master photographer, took of me on a hot Sunday afternoon last week in her 5000-square-foot, air-conditioned Los Angeles studio. Tamara Gold performed makeup and hair magic while our pal, Marty Stewart (thoughtleaderstaffing.com), filmed the entire experience. (Marty is an SEO whiz if you need to improve your traffic online.)
People have been asking me a lot lately why I seem to have a perma-grin. I’ll tell you: vanity, sunscreen and an affirmation I say silently whenever I look in the mirror: “Baeth, how do you stay so young?” I smile to myself and intone that I’m aging backwards. Now, that being said, I eat tons of protein, exercise, take lots and lots and lots of supplements and I watch people singing on YouTube before going to bed because it makes me cry with joy.
BUT there’s something MORE - I am living my Life Purpose. Youth is a state of mind! I love life, am passionate about life and honestly wish I could live forever! If I could live 4,000 years (in a healthy body), I still couldn’t complete everything I’d like to do: fly airplanes, speak all the world’s languages, travel to every country, participate in the Olympics, be a spy, Flamenco dancer, movie star, rock star, physician, astronomer, astrologist, Buddhist monk, tri-athlete and on and on!
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Our next “Purpose, Passion and Profit” FREE Tele-Seminar Call #5 is Thursday, May 14th so be sure you are registered (you can access all the previous calls when you register)!
On this call, you’ll discover some hot ***secrets*** to Love, Power and Wealth you’ll rarely hear anywhere else – and that’s a guarantee!!! – so you can create more Purpose, Passion and Profit in YOUR business! The calls will also preview my June workshop, “The Life Purpose Spiritual Summit.” You can REGISTER for this FREE Tele-Seminar Series here: http://www.HandAnalyst.com/callseries
Today’s **BRAND NEW** article explores the story of Melani Ward and her life before and after discovering her Life Purpose as a “visionary entrepreneur!” Enjoy!
until next time, remember your Life Purpose (and your business!) is in YOUR hands
(nobody else’s!),
The Hand Analyst Inc.
http://www.HandAnalyst.com
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Maria Andros / Lesley Bohm video.
Head on over to this link at youtube and look at all the CLEARLY FAKE comments below it.
Now we all know that Maria didn’t leave the comments….Who’s behind her and all these women?
There are more. There’s a whole band of these women doing this….
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acHeEBvqbuA
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franksgaycousintrey Reply:
October 11th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Christ, she should take some of that money she’s stealing from people, and get that massive beak of hers fixed. The only thing bigger than the scam she’s running is her monstrous nose.
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Chris Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
@canyouexplainthisplease, Now, the photographer does have it going on, but she should donate the money she got paid that day back to the sorry sap that Maria ripped off.
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wait a minute now, so it seems like there’s this secret underground clique of people who got together and decided to sham gullible people on the internet. They figured that if there was enough of them , each pointing to the other saying “he’s the world’s legend of this” and then that guy points to the other guy as saying “and this guy is the guru of bla bla ” then the people would automatically believe it without questioning it. I think it takes about 5 people to call each other gurus to convince the average person that those 5 guys are gurus. Next they decided that they’d let only the scammiest fucks that bought their rip off programs join their ranks. These would be the ones who’d have a proven track record of scamming good people they know on their own. Then, once they proved that, they could work for these original gurus for free. In turn, these original guru shysters would endorse these suckers that decided to turn into a life of scamming.
You gotta be pretty low to scam good people (families, kids, sons, aunts, grandmas) out of their money knowing that you hyping them up to believe something that is not true.
This internet marketing arena is like a cult. a very disgusting filthy cult
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It is a cult – exactly. doing some sleuthing here…there are more girls like Maria and that Ali girl.
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I’m usually not one to post on such controversial blogs/threads but I had to get some clarification here…I’ve been in the Internet Marketing field for over 18 months now and have had quite a bit of success (from various niche products I have built)…
If I were to take all of my knowledge and spend months and months in developing a high-quality video course, and then I launch the product with a high price tag (like $497…and I honestly feel my product is worthy of that price point) then how does this label me as a scammer? Or does it?…
After all, time is money…and I am investing months and months to develop a high quality and step-by-step solution for the customer…and if they want to download my product and get a full-refund, so be it.
How is there wrong in that?
I’d appreciate your guy’s feedback on this…not trying to gain enemies here, just looking for some clarification…because the last thing I would want is to have my name listed on this blog in the futuer…lol.
So in a nutshell, my question is…how can I still make good money from the IM field without having my name spread all over this blog like Maria’s? :-) Am I automatically labeled a scammer if I launch a big-ticket product?
Cheers,
Jake
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franksgaycousintrey Reply:
October 11th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
A couple of things, Jake. No, you’re not automatically a scammer if you sell a high priced “how to get rich” product. The problem is, so many (the vast majority of the gurus) are making their name selling information that one, is no longer effective (certainly not as easy as they make it sound), or is not how they make their money.
A couple of examples. Eban Pagan has reached legendary guru status selling outrageously expensive products like Get Altitude, Wake Up Productive and Guru Mastermind. All of these programs are sold on the basis of “I went from nothing to $20 million a year, and I’ll show you how to do the same.” All these programs use Eban’s case history as an example. How did Eban do it? I mean, how did he do it before he started making most of his money from his $2500 how to get rich products?
Eban’s niche was the dating advice market. He was one of the early names in the market, back in the late 90′s, when there was almost no competition. Today, Eban has a staff of about 20 people (another fantasy these guys try to maintain is that they’re all one man shows running their businesses from their homes). He spends (by his own admission) over 4 million dollars a year on advertising promoting his dating advice funnel. And, he’s certainly not doing that himself. He has a team of people looking after that–including a full time media buyer blanketing not only the internet, but old world media publications with ads). He’s NOT simply using google adsense to keep the necessary endless stream of visitors to his websites.
Now, all of that is fine. The guy DID start with nothing. He DID build up to 20 million. By being one of the early participants. Do you honestly think anyone just starting has a hope in blue hell of breaking into the dating advice market and duplicating anything approaching his success?
Of course not. But nowhere in any of his sales literature, or anywhere in his courses (I’ve watched them all), does he admit that things have changed, and that what he did is very unlikley to be possible for anyone else. He just leaves it hanging out there–the dream that “maybe, just maybe I can do that, too.” They guy is simply being disingenuous when he hints that I grew from 0-20million selling dating advice, and you can, too.
Another example is Chris Carpenter and his famous “Google Cash” program. I read his original “Google Cash,” and the guy used his own history as a success. Fine. But, what is his history? He made a lot of money buying 10 cent google sense ads (for a top three listing!!!) with headlines like “make money on ebay.” No kidding. He was running almost free ads promoting this new, strange website called “Ebay” that allowed people to sell stuff on the internet. Read his book–that’s how new it was…he was actually educating people on what the hell Ebay was, and getting them to sign up for a free account (for which Ebay paid $5).
Fine. Except, do you think anyone today has a hope in freakin’ hell of duplicating that success (by doing what Carpenter did)? It’s laughable. But, that’s the picture the guy paints.
This is a problem with almost all these gurus. Making money in 10, or even 5, years ago is a hell of a lot more different than entering the market today and trying to set up shop. Frank Kern made his “underacheiver” money back in the 2001-03 selling resell rights books on niches like dog training, and teaching your parrot to talk. He sure the hell isn’t making his money doing that anymore. John Reese was the same. The guy started in the early 00′s, and made his real money selling programs on how he did it. Mike Filsaime is the same.
Look, I’ve been in the business since 1987. First in direct mail, and then jumping online in 1999. Compared to today, it’s night and day. And, not in the way you’d expect. It was sooooooooooooo much easier to make money back in the early 00′s. Surprising, eh? 5 years ago, it was like picking gold off the street.
I make very good money today (VERY), but much of that is owed to the fact that I’m very established in my niches. The idea that I could start today and enter the markets I’m in and have anywhere near the success I enjoy is laughable and insane.
I have zero doubt that I could hire a top copywriter, pay $20,000 for a typical hyped up sales letter, hire someone to produce a series of “how I did it, and you can to” products, buy my way in to the good old boy inner club, and enter the guru class in a matter of months. I’d never do that, though. Because what I’d be teaching is total bullshit. Unless you can transport yourself back to the days of zero competition, ugly websites produced by clueless people without any idea of how to sell, and easy SEO domination, anything I teach would just be theory.
Which is of course what the vast majority of the gurus are teaching.
Just let me say, I don’t mean to lump Pagan into the same category or people on this site. I don’t believe he belongs here. I was just using him as an example of how so many of these gurus are using a record to promote products teaching methods that are just not realistically duplicatable.
One guru that I do have a lot of respect for–and have chosen as a mentor–is Rich Schefren. This guy has positioned himself as the guru to the guru, and is pretty damn solid, because he talks about big concepts, and doesn’t pretend that he started with nothing selling how to get rid of cat piss oder to the cat owner niche. Not everybody in the “how to make money” market is a scammer. But, there certainly ARE a lot who are.
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yes! you are a scammer if you are listing such a d amn high price tag from poor people… go do it to the rich corporations that are already leeching people’s pockets with high interest rates and crap.
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Jake,
While I can’t speak for anyone here except for myself. I personally couldn’t care less if you sell a product for $10 or $10,000. It’s not about the price of the product, rather it’s about the claims made. In the case of Maria Andros, it’s not the fact that she is charging for a product that is worth less then 1/12th of what she is selling it for, but rather everything she states (including past successes, and metrics are all lies). Her SEO strategies are antiquated, and will work only on non-searched terms. So the only thing that are going to be chasing her customers are tumbleweeds, if the google wind blows hard enough.
While she has 46K followers in twitter, only a a handful actually care or follow what she says. She doesn’t mention that to the people she is deceiving (to the contrary), she mentions having a celebrity like following. She mentions ebay success, she mentions a marketing background, all of which is false.
I think the most bothersome, is the fact that she screws over those that have already been fucked over by the MLM BS’ers, and Maria Andros makes them believe that their overpriced ($25-$50/ bottle) grape juice is going to actually sell if you slap up a video on google.
That’s the issue I have. The rest of us obey the law (how novel), and these imbeciliacs get to practice fraudulent marketing, and then claim they are experts. Didn’t Madoff make income claims which were untrue, he fooled the people and got them to invest, does that make him an expert, or just a thief who decided he could sell more by deceiving everyone.
The fake tesimonials may sell her course, but it isn’t internet marketing, it is Fraud. Outright, unadulterated fraud.
Does that answer your question?
WINNER!! ::
+8
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Salty takes particular issue with selling over-hyped, hollow, high priced stuff to newbies…the gullible crowd. Particularly when accompanied by false or misleading claims.
In the Droid’s world…if you’re selling the obvious…but concealing it in a wrapper as something new and magical…you’re on the list.
You should realize that if you are specifically chasing newbies…there is a good chance you are within Salty’s field of focus. Why? Because the concept of chasing “newbies” means you are consciously looking for the uninformed. There is often a reason, and it’s rarely a good one… unless you are a piano teacher. Then you are excused, unless of course you are a multi-level piano teacher.
If you look around this blog, you’ll see obvious, common reasons why many people are called to task here: false claims, impossible schemes, etc. If you are on the up-and-up, simply reading this blog should give you a good idea of what not to do. In fact, it’s quite educational in that way.
As for offering a refund, just remember that that never excuses willing marketing sins like selling crap or impossible dreams. One clue that you may be running afoul is when you haven’t first consistently succeeded (over time) at something using the same knowledge you sell, or if few others – or no one else - has consistently achieved significant results either. If you go out selling first, and only then test your theory through those customers, then you are doing wrong.
I’m not as concerned about price as about delivering real, tangible value without the aid of smoke and mirrors…and I don’t mean perceived value or “MSRP”…I mean something that produces a greater-than-the-investment gain in income, quality of life, or other desired improvement, compared to what could be gotten from existing, commonly available knowledge.
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whatever Reply:
October 11th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Value is subjective. You may value your product as $50 and there are people that would benefit 100 times more than that from your product. So the price needs to go up in this case.
Or you may value your product at $50 but the people don’t benefit half of what they paid into your product. So, the price needs to come down to $15 or $10.
Now: You’ll have to plan and research how much time and effort and money is going into promoting and creating the product vs. the FAIR price you can ethically charge.
Next: You’ll have to consider your market. Are these people living below the poverty level? Are these people who are millionaires?
The Key: Be a problem solver. I know it’s been hammered into your head by a lot of these scammers, but still.
Find real problems and real solutions to them. That’s not always that easy. Once you’ve found a common problem and a real solution that you have used yourself and gotten positive results from, then you could be considered an expert in that area.
The only problem these dbags have discovered is that there is an emotional void inside most people that consists of fear. Fear of losing your home, fear of not having enough money, fear of failure, fear of the future, fear of fear.
You think you’re just having a conversation with them, but what they do is find out your weak points. Not everyone goes into say a plubming business for the same reason. Some go into it because there are no other plumbers in their country village. Others go into it because their father, grandfather, and greatgrandfather ran the business. It’s a family tradition to that person.
So they get your personal reason your personal”why”. And then they use that to pressure you to buy. “Don’t you want your kids to be able to afford to go to any university they want? That’s what you told me at the beginning and to tell you the truth I think we can make a lot of money together with this project.”
someone asked how it is that harlan kilstein and these other people get all these persons to give them the big $. it’s a really simple trick as I have stated above, you find out the person’s inner weak spots. their personal “why” and then you use it to tag on to your frauduct.
Their solution is a temporary fix – increase their fear just enough to where they are so scared that they beg you for the solution. That’s when you sell them your $2k course or mentor program.
Or you take them back to when they were a child emotionally and intensify that feeling of wonderment, magic and excitment. This releases a large amount of endorphines which makes them high. Just like a junkie, that person will be hooked and will want whatever it is you’re buying, just so they can stay “happy”. Much the same way a drug addict loses, so too do you lose, having spent a lot of money, time, and effort trying to remain in that state.
Because most people are completely blind to this, what they do is layer all of that with superficial justifications, which you can also ouline in your copy to help them block those core feelings out, which is what most people are wanting to do anyway. Who wants to realize that the only reason they are pulling out their credit card to charge $3,000 on it for YOUR seminar is because deep down they have linked your face or voice with the future possibility of their kids going to college? That’s just too weird and that can’t possibly happen, right?
It’s cult mind programming used on unsuspecting people. And because most people laugh it off, it works so well and evil suckers like Harlan Kilstein are left to do as they please with you.
These people use triggers to manipulate you. It’s a very sophisticated art/science. And people spend a lifetime learning it.
To show you how powerful this is: Think about the time when you smelled a perfume and remembered your very first kiss with a girl in high school.
Think about the time when you smell a certain meal and immediately you are reminded of your mom’s cooking and you get that warm secure feeling inside. Why do you think so many stores have cookies and bakery scents during Christmas season?
Think about your gut feeling and the quick pictures that flash in your mind when you look in your mailbox and you see an envelope that has something like a check inside.
With knowledge and power comes responsibility. Harlan Kilstein is dropping little baby maggots just like him through is coaching programs. He is teaching them these things and working their greed glands with no thought towards ethical treatment.
He tells you that you can make 7 figures by pretending to be an expert. The only millionaires you see at his seminars are other IM’s who are trying to sell their shit. You NEVER see people who are already millionaires sitting there taking notes from him. There is a reason for that.
Having said all that the point is: You need to keep in mind your skill level, the solution your product provides and then keep your market in mind. If they have loads of cash sitting around and are bored to tears, then I say charge a hefty fee. They need a glorified babysitter and you need the moolah.
On the other hand, if you’re dealing with middle class people who are living from paycheck to paycheck or who are living off credit cards, then you’d be better off not trying to sell them anything over $50. And then, you had better be sure it’s quality.
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Ralph Reply:
October 11th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
All good points. I’ve noticed a number of internet marketers specifically encourage people to focus on “desperate buyers.” That is, people that are under major stress or incredible pressure and who don’t have the clarity or freedom to choose rationally because of those constraints. That’s called exploitation, and it’s all too common.
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Salty.
You have the funniest site on the internet right now.
This. fucking. rules. so. hard.
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Look you all need to look into Mike Filsaime king of crap products. He has like a crush on Andros and helped her get going. Just start with his twitter posts to her and pictures of them.
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http://strategicwebsiteprofits.com/mike-filsaime-is-a-cheat-and-a-scam-marketing-dot-com-review/
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
That is the norm for Mike Filsaime, there are a lot of complaints about him not cancelling the forced/hidden continuity, complaints of unexplained charges, and no customer service once someone has paid, all par for the course for a used car sales guy (don’t disclose the faults, and sell it on the shiny paint, and hope they sign before they notice the mud in the ashtray).
Hell, someone here (the guy with Filsaimes number as his username), got a call in which Mike Filsaime’s team tried to take his last bit of money, based on what he told them he had left on his credit card. That (as well as the constant stream of complaints of fraudulent continued charges) speaks volume about his deceptive character.
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MyPenisisSizeOfFilsaime Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I’ve gotten 3 calls over 6 months from Filsaime people trying to sell me coaching. Somehow I got on their list simply for having a paydotcom acct.
Keep telling the annoying idiots that I never bought any of his products and don’t need coaching. Heard he uses Russell Brunson’s call center… no clue if that’s true.
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My name is Maria Andros, and welcome to my post.
Do you realize that their are people in third world countries like, boyle heights, compton and hollenbeck (to name butt four), countries unlike Beverly hills, where manolo blahnik and channel purses are only a dream. Where the materially challenged walk the streets (wearing wal mart fashions). On my international travels, I went and witnessed first hand the devestation in the 4 world ghettos mentioned forthwith above. I left those places with sheer horror and sadness in my heart, and determination in my head.
In response, I have created the Maria Andros foundation for the materially challenged (we are accepting donations). I want people experience what it is like to be a star, with a celery like following, and a magnanimous, selfless, and modest like myself (RT @davidcarreno In a webinar with @mariaandros THE best training on social media &marketing. Trust me I have been a course-aholic).
As a commitment to my dreams, I will use every dollar donated to buy the things that would bring happiness to these 3rd world girls. I will then take pictures of myself using these things. Imagine a young girl after she sees me wearing a pear of manolo blahniks, and says to herself, “I am so happy and grateful now that I can picture myself with Maria’s shoes”. “I am so happy and grateful that I can picture myself with Maria’s channel purse”.
I don’t wan to stop at just giving these girls hope at the small stuff, but rather would like to you to donate enough money so I can help them to take eggxotic trips, eat at fancy restaurants through me, and help them picture themselves in a Misterroti. No sacrifice is to grate for my girls.
So I want you to all stop thinking about yourselves, and think about others (like I am doing). I want you to take whatever you can spare and multiply it by 100 fold, and donate that amount. I want these girls to walk the red cawpet of their lives.
Here are some questions which are asked very frequently
q-Maria, why don’ t you give.
a-My time is my money, I am worth $6,000 an hour. A trip to go and take pictures to provide these girls with hope will take 1 hour to 4 hours (that’s a $6K to $24K value). A one week vaction has a my time value of $1.008Million. All my time is donated pro bozo (that means free)
q-What if these girls want to learn from you.
a- I will give them special pricing because I want to help. For $1,800 I will speak to them live on the phone for 15 minutes, for $500 I will have my assistant call them up and tell them that is not enough money.
q-A lot of these girls have no money, how do you expect them to pay for your time.
a-I am handing them the keys to the kingdom, if they can’t or do not want to come up with the money, then they don’t really have the passion to succeed. I am tired of hearing people say…..I don’t want to steal to succeed…it shows me they are not interested in doing what it takes to succeed.
q-Do you have a university education.
a-I don’t believe in education. I went to highschool, but I fired my teachers, because they didn’t want me to succeed and made my life miserable, they wanted me to do my home work, and I didn’t want too. I always have and enterperverbrial spirit.
Come follow me on twitter, and help me help my girls.
http://twitter.com/maria_andro
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Ralph Reply:
October 11th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
How inspiring! That makes the Gettysburg Address sound like something you’d hear rattled off during a Stompernet pre-break speech. I can’t help but contribute. Can I designate a portion of my contribution be used toward her “Down With Dictionaries” campaign?
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canyouexplainthisplease Reply:
October 11th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Funny, Umm…I think you left out that African water problem that the Red Carpet Event was supposed to help…
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the M A guide on how to become a high class escort NOT…IM escort is perhaps correct
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yes she has a past that includes sexual promiscuity for “favors”
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Uncle Roy Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:44 am
I assume you are not referring to “party favors” like kazoos or roll-out tooters? Has she spent time on more than just red carpet?
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Aunt Rae Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Kazoos are cool. That Maria chick has a HUGE SCHNOZZ too. Her boogers must be like boulders.
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Has anybody here ever snowboarded down Maria’s nose? And how’s the lodging? Just wondering.
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Maria Andros call me sweetheart. I can give you a good deal, and we can do $10/ month payment plans.
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Twitter Fraud? Hey look…Maria has returned to twitter and just sent out this tweet:
“just got an email from one of my students who took a leap of faith to join my #SMTB program & just landed a TV commercial she’s 53 &fabulous12:11 AM Oct 14th from web”
Oh wait…Maria didn’t write that….’cause we know how Maria writes. Her copywriter wrote it for her.
Wow, Maria, oh do tell us more about this Fabulous 53 yr old lady who took that leap of faith? I can’t wait to find out and see that commercial!
I’ll be waiting and watching for it, Maria! Twitter fraud? You decide!
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Well, Maria Andros took down all her “testiMOANial” videos from her channel. The video from the page Salty pointed out from her site has been removed. Fear not Maria, I have all your “special” videos, and they are being handled accordingly.
No doubt she is probably wondering whether or not to file a DMCA notice and have the Oliver Turner testiMOANial video taken down from one of my channels….if she does that, then she accepts ownership of the video and testiMOANial…and if it stays up…puts um both in legal peril….should be interesting to see what transpires.
I kind of found this tweet a little more telling
“the feedback i’ve received from my #smtb students is that most of you completed the entire program i’m humbled and give yourself a congrats!7:53 PM Oct 18th from web ”
Now that she can’t “lie” anymore (actually Miss imbeciliac didn’t realize it was always illegal to display false testimonials and engage in deceptive advertising practices), it appears that the only thing her students are actually accomplishing are “finishing the course” (except for comercial lady…don’t know how that is Maria’s doing…but whateva)…. No more Tania Gabrielle ‘s (24K according to Tania’s tweets $30K according to Brossman’s tweet), Brian Williams ‘ (100k in 30 days 300K in 90 days…a nice easy linear extrapolation of a lie to remember), Oliver Turner ‘s ($5-$10k/day…$180K total according to Andros tweet of Mar 29), Pam Brossman ‘s (miss I made $750K selling my stock photo house picture to an investor after 3 years of not selling it….using a vision board).
So it would appear that as Maria Andros ‘es ”knowledge” increases, her students fail to suckseed.
I think of all the things that speak to what she is really about is the following
one of my favorite songs i play on repeat by AKon http://tinyurl.com/5vw4sn
6:48 PM Mar 29th from web
(chorus)
I get it in til the sun rise
Doin 90 in a 65
Windows rolled down screamin out
Ay ay i’m i’m so paid
Number 1 hustler gettin’ money
Why you wanna count my money
I’m a hustler don’t need nann one of y’all see
I’m so paid
interesting lyrics… and Mike Fleecme likes it too….hey Mikey you like it???….yeah he likes it.
@Mikefilsaime remember vegas when we were listening to akon… we have excellent taste in music + you’re a baller! http://tinyurl.com/5vw4sn8:36 PM Jul 10th from web
For those that don’t know…in the context of the song….a baller is a gangsta/thug that made it big….
Man…..this is like seeing a mythical unicorn…this is just tooo unreal…am I being punk’d
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canyouexplainthisplease Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Hmm…I’ve got to sign up for your channel. I found her on a Bozo Clown site. Is that the same person in here or are there two Bozos? If you google her, she’s got more copy and fake sites going up lately. One tweet was something about:
“very cool i was featured as one of the Top Business & Entrepreneurial Thought leaders on twitter thankyou! http://bit.ly/32ZcU”
Yeah right, on a site that was put up for her. Certainly describes her to a tee NOT!
Interesting…here’s another tweet from yesterday:
“I’ve been not on Twitter as much because I’ve been creating something that will shift everything for 12 people very excited will share soon!”
I bet she’s going to start a private mastermind/coaching program of her own with 12 slots. What do you be me on that one!
Oh, I’m sure you are SO RIGHT about those lyrics! You know she’s been passed around with all of the top gurus…what’s that horrible expression….”rode hard and put up wet.” I guess she has her own biz on the side too. I wonder if Maria was just one of the prostitutes they met at one of their conventions and they decided to bring her in house. I do feel badly for her in a way, though, because she’s just so damn stupid and I bet she’ll never learn.
So have you really attended any of these live events with good ol’ Mike eF’ me and others?
Any idea of the launch date on her new program? Sort of makes me want to learn how to make a video for her just for the hell of it and do something productive to support the cause here.
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Actually hustler (as referred to in the song), is someone engaged in “underhanded” activity to obtain “money” (it doesn’t refer to prostitution). What she does or doesn’t do in her private life is her business, but the lives Maria Andros destroys by her deceptions, needs to be disseminated to the public, and help prevent future victims. Hopefully Maria Andros past victims will be able to put their lives back together, and be made whole again.
Maria Andros needs to be taken down, and taken down she will. Besides, take down the weakest link, and the others fall like dominos, as she gives them up to save herself.
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I was at Macy’s on Herald Square today. When I saw all those women at the cosmetic counters, I thought the economy would be buzzing if they all became IM video queens…
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@cartman holla holla my dawg I stay so paid my hyundai xl be iced out in platinum holla
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peace
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zoinks Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
LOL
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Yezzzzz I am the same Bozo D Clown
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Not sure how to embed the video but here’s Maria’s newest!
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXl2KOALL9s
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drunk bloke Reply:
October 26th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I just drank 9 beers and took a hit off Harlan’s blunt and this Maria ANdros girl is starting to look cute as hell lmaooooooooooooo
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Funny, but when internet marketers focus on external stuff (like exotic locales, mansions, etc.) and NOT their actual product, that sure is a RED FREAKING FLAG that they really have nothing to offer. It’s all just “feel good.”
Maria says she is taking a “me day” in the video above. To “get back to nature,” and “get balance.”
Keywords: “Magnet, radiate, energy, future-based thinking, affirmations, prosperity power, vibration…”
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I can’t say much about Maria’s video because I’m puking all over my keyboard. Seriously, she thinks people want to listen to that crap? I couldn’t even stand to watch the whole thing.
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that is because Maria’s target market is any feminist bimbo with no more than 40 IQ. No men allowed!
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Maria Andros helped me come up with a marketing product idea that let me earn 100k in 6 months! Beauty On A Budget! The concept is to market to the stupidest and poors female suckers of society. We simply get them to believe in the magickal powers of potato chip clips disguised as the newest and trendiest hair clip.
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Here nose is so big I think you can fit YOUR dick in it. Bang the right nostril first and then finish up on the left nostril.
That video was so mindblowing. Always funny to see someone babble on trying to look smart. Took 7 minutes for her to basically say take a day off.
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LOLOLOL
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I wish I had a big azz nose like Maria Andros! No wonder Harlan Kilstein is so in love with Maria Andros. She has her DickNOse up Harlan Kilstein’s pasty, white, hairy, rotting wormhole azz.
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http://taniagabrielle.com/blog/ wtf is wrong with her?????? She is just pulling shit out of her ass, literally
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
I couldn’t read it….I mean I literally couldn’t read it….what is she trying to say?
oh my Gawd…my to II’s make an eleven….strange…
I’m not to freaking impressed with her anymore…she used to be able to tell the future just a day after it happened…what the hell is with the delay?
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Martin Reply:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
That numerology bullshit is so patently ridiculous.
Quote: “Don’t get me wrong – his numbers didn’t cause the events – but they did AFFECT him.”
I can see how the numbers might affect him. I remember years ago I was walking to my car late one night, and the number 37 suddenly starting chasing me. I just barely got out of the McDonald’s parking lot alive.
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That site is how she did math for her GED, shortly after giving oral favors to the teacher for that passing grade. At least she is trying to look smart, Harlan just belches and farts.
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I’m as appalled as the rest of the commenters about Maria Andros’ scummy marketing practices and crappy videos, but I think the attacks are heading in the wrong direction.
Criticising her about the size of her nose and making sexually explicit remarks isn’t helping the cause of taking down the scumbags. It hurts our cause because it makes the commenters look like a bunch of 13-year-old misogynists and kills our credibility as crusaders for justice.
Remember that scum like Andros are targeting women. If you want women to take this site seriously, tone down the attacks on Andros’ appearance and the over-the-top sexual comments.
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@ChrisF I understand your position, but being afraid to say what we really think belongs in those cult coaching programs and not here. Thank you and goodbye.
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ChrisF Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:36 am
@hairy smelly armenian
I guess it depends on your goals here. I want to see scum like Kilstein and Andros, etc., barred from doing business and maybe serving time in Club Fed.
In no way am I a fan of Andros and I woke up a LONG time ago from the nightmare of cult-think.
I admit that ridiculing people like Kilstein is a riot, especially when the ridicule ties in directly with their actions. That’s called satire and can be damn effective.
Making fun of Kilstein for being pasty and flabby is appropriate because he sells frauducts about health and weight loss.
But comments like “I bet I could fit my dick up each nostril” simply comes across as fucking crude and creepy. It does nothing to illustrate the inanity of Andro’s videos or prove that she’s unlikely to deliver on any of her marketing promises.
I think the cause of creating greater awareness and getting other people to take action against these con artists is better served by staying on target.
One-upping each other on gross-out humor is going to turn away new visitors to the site and defeat Salty’s main purpose — to take down these bastards.
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Myrra Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Well said, thanks ChrisF
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hairy smelly armenian Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
damn you ChrisF, now you’ve got me feeling all guilty about that stupid Maria Andros. party pooper
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pseudonymous Reply:
October 28th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
I’ve watched these comments above re Andros and new visitors to site and decided to come back here under different user name and differnt proxy to comment. Yeah, the totally gross comments are just that – and the only thing I can say in defense of them is that the one thing I LOVE about this site is FREE SPEECH and uncensored comments. That said, yes, the comments were totally disguisting, IMO. The only thing that I believe should be TOTALLY not allowed – commenting on the scammers’ children.
Now…onto the remarks above re getting new visitors to this site and wanting women to take this site seriously. As an over 40 female, I can tell you that I’d absolutely die if anyone I that know found out that I’ve been reading and commenting here. I don’t think you’re going to get many women in here unless they have a specific interest in one of these scammers. That said, I’d be disappointed if the author here changed his style – it is what it is – and you have to accept that.
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women have commented on Maria’s appearance as much as men have – in addition to and including and encompassing, but not yet leaving out the focus of her lack of marketing and business skills, as well as her lack of writing skills including literally her entire lack of any skills it seems
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Nikki Reply:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:18 am
@bimbolicious, agreed – as a female (last time I checked) I find her use of fawning little-girl behaviour & then blatant attempt at sexualisation to be beyond sick-making.
I personally find it really irritating when women behave in that sort of way to get attention (and really? From Not-Dr Kilstein? Is he really all you aspire to be?).
We then find that some of these people (particularly the men) will promote her based on nothing more than she stroked their leg & fluttered her eyelashes at them. This exposes all of them to be con-artists, all full of hype & self-promotion.
If her work spoke for itself, then, while her actions would be annoying, they would at least be excusable. However, her work shows no results at all, which merely emphasises the shallowness of herself & those that promote her.
For someone that uses her ‘looks’ and ‘sparking personality’ to sell herself, she leaves herself open to be criticised in that way.
Just my opinion of course.
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tania gabrieller’s videos are boring at least maria andros says ridiculously stupid things to make you laugh, but this woman puts me to sleep
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httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cC-ZJzkgXU
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yep Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
ROTFLMAO. Another classic, Cartman! Hilarious!
Favorite phrases: “garbage people” and “friends in my phone.”
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speculations Reply:
October 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Is Maria learning disabled?? It’s like she’s trying to throw some of everything she’s read and heard together in one pot and call it her own and then try to make people sell their first born for it. Fortunately, she doesn’t quite put it all together right, which already throws up red flags for a number of peeps. And why does she not want to use the word “breakdown” anymore? Is there a mental breakdown history?
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You know what is funny? Maria always boasts about how many followers she has on Twitter. I’ve never seen a Twitter account with so many spammer followers! For example
schmap_tampa
Schmap_toronto
schmap_sydney
schmap_SF
schmap_seattle
schmap_sandiego
schmap_sacto
Schmap_sa
schmap_raleigh
and 36 other schmap accounts all follow her. Same pic, same spam message.
Thousands and thousands of her followers are spam accounts like this. Just take a look. The stupid bitch just leaves it that way so it appears she has so many followers…LOL
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 27th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Give me a few days, and I will show you the truth of her celery like following on twitter. I don’t want to mention it yet. Last time I did it, she eliminated the evidence, before I had a chance to capture it.
On the spam accounts, yeah, they have a lot of those type of accounts that have been created to follow each other. 200 or so “marketers” each creating 100 that’s 20+K followers. A lot of her followers come from Follow Friday too, everyone follows everyone.
Apparently the count of followers is a guage of “popularity”, I was following as many as 24 people once, and I couldn’t even be bothered to read what anyone wrote, so I can just imagine those who even follow as little as 200 people….and a lot follow into the 1000′s and 10′s of 1000′s. It’s crazy.
WINNER!! ::
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Maria Andros sounds like she’s on antidepressants
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Cartman, your video is hysterical! She speaks like my teenagers do.
But to be 100% fair, the “raise your hand” instruction she gives is a technical term that is specific to the software she is using to run her webinar. Go To Webinar has a “raise hand” feature that allows the listener to request permission to be unmuted, so the listener can directly ask questions of the presenter.
So, as dumb as it sounds when she says it, this is the one part of the video that was inaccurate.
Just wanted to point that out so the focus can shift back to what’s actually wrong with this Guru Du Jour.
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pseudonymous Reply:
October 28th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Yeah, that’s true. I’m familiar with Citrix GO TO WEBINAR.
Cartman’s analysis of Maria though, has been A++ right on.
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First…thanks for all the feedback guys…and teaching me something new about the raise hand feature….read my Misterroti comment below, and you will understand why I didn’t even fathom the possibility of raise your hands being a feature.
Is Maria Andros learning disabled? Well, that is for each individual to decide for themselves, and her tweets say it all. Not realizing she left a whole trail about being ”so paid” (song by Akon aboot “hustlin”) on publicly available tweets, then goes on to say “our (referring to herself and Mike Filthme) secret motto” (as if no one would understand it). Then Filsaime who also prides himself in being a crook (but not quite as stoopid), quickly started the “damage control”
@mikefilsaime just filmed a video by the beach for our JV partners you have a cameo or a shout out i should say ;-) so Paid-our secret motto
1:24 PM Jul 18th from web
http://twitter.com/mariaandros/status/2711069698
@mariaandros were you doing 90 in a 65? Lol
9:43 PM Jul 18th from Tweetie in reply to mariaandros
Nice try Mikey…..she’s referring to the video as a way to convey her hustle (and yours apparently) to the people with her classic false expertease.
What I am curious about is why Andros felt the need to put 20″ rims and low profile tires and debadge an ’06 X5 3.0i (curious..a high six figures… and she acquired it used in mid ’07 from a vancouver dealer) ….no matter how you cut it, it’s still a soccer mom/real estate agent vehicle or for a place that gets a lot of snow (and with those tires, it ain’t no good in the snow)….now it just looks hella ghetto….
http://twitpic.com/1oh8k
As far as “her” Misterroti goes. I do think that someone should inform her that the thing she refers to as a “crown” is actually a trident. One goes on your head, and one spears it (subtle difference their maria)
http://twitpic.com/1yynl
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Duke Reply:
October 29th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if Maria has income from other sources. Maybe she has a rich uncle, or her family back home is eating peanut butter sandwiches so Maria can “live the life she always wanted.”
I’d guess she will be a “has-been” in a few years. She talks like someone who has just won the lottery. Classic consumerist. Get some money, buy an expensive car. Not: get some money, hang onto it – because the well might not always be there. And as she ages, her looks will age, too. Then what?
Maybe she will marry a wealthy plastic surgeon.
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 29th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
You are right about the person back home….she mentions a guy name Jesus (must be Spanish) who is her personal saviour…I was unable to dig up anything, but he may be funding her. Oh my gawd…?”Jesus”?.she might be one of those “secret” christians (like schirmer), unable to hold steadfast to just one belief, and likes to waffle more then the local IHOP.
“Jesus my personal saviour,My dad, My husband Peter, anyone who is living true to themselves and living a extraordinary life!” – Maria Andros
As you can see, she claims to have been married (whether she still is or not is unknown). She does have a “friend” by the name of Peter Andros. Her past (based on older pics she put up) doesn’t look like it was as destitute as she claims (whether it was her husband that had money… who knows), so her road to “success” may have been already partially paved (and presented as rubble) to prove her expertease (a rags to riches story). I believe that is the crap that Kargorilla taught.
One of the most telling signs (of her whole charade) is that ALL her friends and family live in Vancouver, yet she left them all behind to reside in California (in an “industry” where location has no basis in success).
What kind of a person is willing to walk away from all friends and family for “weather” ? Anyone who has been in California (southern that is), knows that while the weather is nice, it is not a tropical paradise of flora and fauna.
One then has to wonder, if she can “leave” those she supposedly cares about behind, what is she capable of doing to those who she only claims to care about? I think one has to ask what is her word worth, if the only thing she emanates is hypocrisy?
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sweetie cakes honey bunny baby cakes Reply:
October 29th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Now you’ve got me real curious about Maria Andros. I noticed in quite a few of her videos she says something about mental break downs but then corrects herself real fast and says she doesn’t call it that anymore.
It is strange that all her family lives in Vancouver and she is in CA all by her lonesome self. Any criminal records on her in Canada? Perry Belcher is rumored to have gotten in his car and do a “fast and furious” on Salty Droid after realizing he was looking Federal Prison in the face. He was on his way to the sunny state of Cali too.
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I know someone complained about the references to Maria, but she is totally useless as a business person. From a business perspective, she wouldn’t even make it as a backwoods Kentucky hooker, let alone a celery (celebrity) in Hollywood. Literally.
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
That’s because her business sense (or lackthereof) comes from “isms”. Her surround yourself with the 5 people…is a marshalism…comes from sylver…charge $10 from 1M give $100 value…is a paganism…and on and on….none of the thoughts in her head are her own…she is swimming in a reality of other people’s fantasies.
In maria’s world, business terms have the following definitions..im channeling her purse
corporation – we will help each other suckseed.
limit.ed- stop the spreading of education
Inc.- It’s in my pen…I rite with it
copyright- don’t make any mistakes when you take an idear.
ceo – how they say goodbye in italy (that’s real bad)
euroclear – It means you have nothing on ya, go on through
zero-sum game – nobody scores
Bond indenture – A secret agent who wears false teeth
Black market – A place where only black things are sold.
bridge financing – the loaning of money to pay a toll
broker – having less money today then yesterday
Bubble market – it’s a niche selling liquid soap mixtures
call option – it means you can use the phone, butt you don’ t have too.
custodial fees – it means you have to pay to be a janitor.
Margin – it’s a semi hard oil based spread
Mean-variance criterion – it’s when someone is not nice to you because of a trait you have
Capital – it’s the big letter that starts a sentence or used on a proper nun
Kappa – you wear it on your head when its colda (not used much)
Futures option- A place to pick what will happen to you.
Goodwill – A place to donate your old business things.
Hedge fund - Savings for future landscape work
Invoice – that’s the voice you hear in your head when you think.
Junk Bond- An actor that didn’t play his secret agent role well.
no-load fund – everyone shares equally
P/E – going to the bathroom #1
Trading pit – exchanging the seed of one fruit for another
Samurai Bond – when you get along really well with a japanese warrior
Stock- the main stem of a plant
stock market – A place where they sell the main stem of plants..it’s a nitch businesss
Straddle- A german pastry made of thin sheets of dough
Strike price – That’s the point where your spouse hits you for spending too much
end channel now….
WINNER!! ::
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Helmut Reply:
October 29th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Pretty hilarious…you had better take a cold shower quick. You don’t want that channeling to become permanent…or you might have to watch out for “garbage people.” Then you’d only have “the friends in your phone.”
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LOL LOL I’m laughing tears @cartman
It is all true and right on the bullseye. Maria Andros gives women in the biz a bad name. She gives all people in the biz a ridiculous name of shame. How did she ever get into the guru circles?
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pseudonymous Reply:
October 29th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
OH, Come on!!!!! You asked:
“How did she ever get into the guru circles?”
Give it your best guess there – by fucking the right people, I suppose.
Maria had a very interesting little encounter with a good friend/colleague of mine nearly a year ago…but it’s not what you what you’d think it to be – in any way.
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sweetie cakes honey bunny baby cakes Reply:
October 29th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
@pseudo do tell us more
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Look at this tweet Maria just got (apparently “media” people don’t do much homework before they randomly select their “experts” to interview):
Trying to reach @mariaandros for WomenEntrepreneur.com story on the hottest women ents in social media! Maria, your site has no EM, phone. (From @TiceWrites)
Andros tweets back:
@TiceWrites thx for reaching out feel free to contact my team with more info at support@videomarketingqueen.com :) thankyou
What does she mean by “my team?” What team? You KNOW it’s just her (we do, anyway).
What a facade, huh?
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 30th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Yeah…no surprise there ….a lot of “interviewers” do articles on kickbacks…I doubt that lady gives a shit about real women with real accomplishments….
She has been tweeting like crazy…7 whole people retweeted the “entrepreneurial escape” for her….and she tweeted it twice. She is trying to get the “entrepreneurial escape” to rank high on google….for the term entrepreneurial (which gets 135,000 searches a month), but it’s nowhere to be found. She does rank on pg 1 position 4 for the term entrepreneurial escape which gets “not enough data” searches a month…here comes the dust bowls….on a side note…let me expose the bimbocil a little more….(if you put “entrepreneurial escape” in quotations you get google returning 122 results. That means that out of the 695,000 times the term “entrepreneurial” and the term “escape” are found on the same page, as a “phrase” those terms are used only 122 times….so she isn’t competing with 695,000 “websites” as she would claim..in this case she is competing with 122 phrases…and if you look at the last entry which is 43 it means that those 122 phrases are contained within 43 pages …which makes its average usages 3 terms/page….she isn’t competing with 695,000 websites (as she considers it), but actually 43 pages…so she ranks on what can be considered a non-existant term, on a term not searched…..not so impressive….
This is nothing new. If you paid attention to her videos (from late ’07 beginning of ’08), she actually attempted to rank on highly competetive terms…she Made dozens of nonsense videos….tried ranking them for all kinds of shit…then if one made it high (usually on a non searched or non-competitive super duper longtail keyword phrase) ….then it stayed on her (or I should say one of her) channels and the rest came down…..Actually for a time in late ’07 early ’08 youtube revealed an administrative function (accidently)….it would allow you to find all copies of a video and their locations…..so it was easy to see all the scammers videos and what they did.
I’m not sure if I shared the “live call” where she claims to have ranked (or helped one of her ”students” rank) on the first page on a term that was into the 10′s of millions, apparently her modesty would not allow her to share either the term or the video….isn’t that strange.
Nothing like using a “circus” trick to prove “expertease” to sell a $2.5K course which is worthless in doing anything it claims.
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Sent 11/13
Subject: VERY IMPORTANT- This is the most important video I’ve ever sent you.
Yesterday I sent you a NEW Video I just released and we’ve been getting
tons of amazing feedback with people reporting how much value
they got from the video.
This is one of the most important videos I have ever sent as unless you
change the pictures in your mind that are no longer serving you
its difficult to get to the next level…
The server was really hectic yesterday with the high volumes so I wanted
to resend you a link that you don’t have to log into so you can watch the
videos.
Thanks for your patience yesterday!
Here is the link to go straight to the video training:
http://www.marketingfreedommastery.com/videovisionbonus1/
You will get INSTANT access to the powerful video mindset training
I even had someone say that other people are charging up to $150 for
this information and I wanted to give this to you as a way to help
you get more of what you want in your life!
Enjoy and I look forward to you creating new
breakthrough results in your life and business.
Watch the video now :)
http://www.marketingfreedommastery.com/videovisionbonus1/
To your success!
Maria
PS Stay tuned for another new video I will be releasing shortly and
a special announcement!
Maria A. Andros
“The Video Marketing Queen”
Come Follow me on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/mariaandros
18 South Marengo
Pasadena, CA 91101
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 13th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
…hmmm…I never got one….. and here I thought I was on her list. The Bimbecile doesn’t luv me no more :( :( :(….. (no that ain’t drool thems teers dam it…and shut up whoever said I was drooling….I don’t use shut up….errr…stay away from the darkside…..)
“Yesterday I sent you a NEW Video I just released and we’ve been getting tons of amazing feedback with people reporting how much value they got from the video.”
I don’t doubt it…I play your videos when panhandling…people give me more if I agree to just stop playing them…just curious…but how come these amazing results only seem to come on videos whos metrics can’t be viewed or tracked publicly….and get such amazing feedback and video views…but when they find their way on youtube…..not so much….
BTW, do you mean similar to this amazing feedback?
http://twitter.com/ChrisMcCusker/statuses/5661956883
ChrisMcCusker @mariaandros why do you direct people to this sort of crap? http://www.marketingfreedommastery… really? about 21 hours ago from web
It’s not crap….you just don’t understand the universal…HEY if you keep up with that attitude, you ain’t ever going to make her phone…now stop being so critical of others..you ass!
“This is one of the most important videos I have ever sent as unless you change the pictures in your mind that are no longer serving you its difficult to get to the next level…”
No doubt it’s as important as the Kyoto Accord (no Imbeciliac…it’s NOT a muscial instrument..it’s a car….damn foo!)…At least your English is getting gooder……what she means is that if you keep ”picturing” a rope…its harder to go up one floor at the mall….try picturing an escalade or an elevador (darth’s wife??)….this stuff is priceless (no no…I think I mean worthless…both kind of sound like they would mean the same..butt no).
“The server was really hectic yesterday with the high volumes so I wanted to resend you a link that you don’t have to log into so you can watch the videos”
High volume…oh okay….that probably means three people wanted to see it at once (times 10,000 fold…I’m so happy and grateful now that I have a place to put up videos that people can’t view the metrics or feedback, and I can say whatever makes me feel good!)….strangest thing….even before I mentioned it here (which was a couple of hours before she tweeted about it) ’her server’ was timing out….the ‘server’ was having a breakdown (I mean learning experience…I don’t be using the term breakdown) in anticipation of the high volume?? Have the new AI series of servers been released already?
“I even had someone say that other people are charging up to $150 for this information and I wanted to give this to you as a way to help you get more of what you want in your life!”
One whole person ey?….ahhh yeah…verified….that person was David Carreno…has been scratch that…never been actor selling (or explaining…can’t really figure out what he’s doing) forex software and methods….”other companies” ey David….nothing like detailed verifiable facts…
btw….Carreno (the grump) did the foolies on us…bonk…bonk (sorry.. star trek flashback)…there was “one” company back in ’07 (mindmovies was their product) that was selling software to create a “vision video”, which included a boatload of affirmations….butt they weren’t charging to “teach”…just charging for the software they had created…..Maria merely rehashed someone else’s idea, and presented it as her own….
wow..they are still around….and look $49….($39 if you click away from the order page like you are going to leave)….what a deal…and with the $649 dollars in boneuses that’s a net prophet of $610 ($600 if you don’t click away)….wow based on “IM” interpretations…they are basically paying us…Andros….I got $610 on the table to watch their video…how much you paying?
http://www.mindmovies.com/creationkit10/
BTW….giving people this clap trap of a “training” video, hardly qualifies as value…..now the video “series” with the rocks….that video had value…those rocks were pritty!!!….everyone I showed it to just loved the rocks….they said those rocks were very well behaved….everyone is wondering what happened to the rocks…rumor has it those rocks are going to be on Dr. Phil next week…can you confirm this…
just an FYI….for something to be considered a “series”….there should be more then one episode…just something to consider for your next single episode series.
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Fuck me to tears _cartman_ you should be writing “copyright” for some of these loony-toons. I’m worried you may wander off to the dark side if the likes of Death-Ray ever sees your talent and throws his full-press recruiting effort on you - like he does here: http://bit.ly/9mJD5 I had a really, really hard time not following the link to see if I could qualify for the “scholarship”.
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:05 am
i’m going over to the darkside…muhahahaha…. ;)
Speaking about the darkside… Andros is launching a “new program” (by new I ”pre zu may” it’s really just a new name)…
In just four days….ohhhhh…I’m on the edge of my seat…..
The Marketing Freedumb Mastery Program (she didn’t shell out $10 for a website to just preZent free vi-day-owes)…..extremely limited… time sensitive…….OMG…CC in hand and ready to charge it!!!!…..I’m fricken sleeping on my computer gawd damit….this is an opportunatea of a lifetime…..once the doors shut…. they’ll be shut for good…and won’t be reopened until at least January…”please Californialy father….don’t let me miss this awpoortunity….”
http://marketingfreedommastery.com/pureconversion/
On an interesting (yet more sirius) note…she must be reading your blog Saltydude…
….she finally pronounced Niche….”kneeesh”…. in every single prior video (up to her ”walk through the weed field” video) she pronounced it Nitch (we mention it…she changes it….coincidence…I don’t think so).
We mention how bimbeciliac pretends to be psychic….and she mentions being psychic to customers….another coincidence…hardly
People here post her videos have no value…and what does she do…two new videos…and emphasizes the value of them (okay..well they don’t really have any value…but she believes they do…and those that want to pimp the shit out of her “new” course are mentioning the inherent value in her new vi-day-owes)…and at 2 hoe vi-day-owes, it’s officially a series…
Of course as hard as she tried….Andros is not without a sense of total irony…..she mentions about “not being all about oneself” (retweets SAP – self-aggrandizing posts) and not focusing on material things and what does she twit?
In order of appearance;
—————-
thx Sarah! I’m taking it up a notch to the NEXT level EXCITED! RT @sarahprout: @mariaandros your new videos are amazing and so detailed! xx about 4 hours ago from web
If you haven;t allready call someone today and tell them that you love them relationships are what life is about not material possessions :) about 5 hours ago from web
I just got back from Tori Burch in Hollywood and left with the most amazing new purse & 2 pairs of divine shoes life is great! grateful about 5 hours ago from web
i must say living in california is like heaven on earth… I love you california! about 5 hours ago from web
…..I’m now going to go wash my eyes out with bleach……
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Hoover Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Maria Andros should be called the “yes/no” girl. (Because she has the capacity to be both “for” and “against” the same crap, so as to cover all bases.) Wonder if she stands up while sitting down…
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capt.porkpie Reply:
February 11th, 2010 at 3:23 am
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Niche
Isn’t the correct way to say it pronounced “nitch”… or am I missing something? According to dictionary.com it is pronounced “nitch”.
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_cartman_ Reply:
February 11th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Hello capt.porkpie….and welcome to my post
I wouldn’t consider dictionary.com a comprehensive source for the English language….that said….yes…but I would more accurately state that “nitch” is the newly accepted way to pronounce it…but I don’t quite understand your point…clarify….
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?niche001=niche
I would suggest m-w.com for English language references, and not dictionary.com (yes..yes…in the above link dictionary is a sub-domain of reference.com, but they own both domains, and all part of the ask.com “empire”..and worthless overall…it’s the “internet marketers” version of the English language…incomplete…incorrect..and translated as it suits them best)
What I do find interesting, is what you chose to focus on (of all the things being disgust). You ignored things like gamed views, false testimonials, false figures..and went straight for the minutia…it kind of makes me “wander” who you are….hmmm…..so….do I keep “wandering”?…a near three month old post, and your only comment is that it appears that Andros pronounced the word correctly.
Is that you Oliver Turner?
Hey, what do you think of these views (is my following celery like?). In three days, with no product, no money, no clue, no mind, no intelligence, no followers, no list, I made a 6 figure viewing….how do I ‘doo doo’ it….
http://img86.yfrog.com/i/mankil.jpg/
WINNER!! ::
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Nikki Reply:
July 29th, 2010 at 8:36 am
@capt.porkpie, here in the UK we pronounce it ‘neesh’ (as per _cartman_’s example above).
It’s always puzzled me whenever I’ve heard it pronounced ‘nitch’, but I had presumed maybe it was an American pronounciation.
So that may be why it differs?
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What’s with these illiterate people? Maria and Perry Belcher both refer to offering “trainings.”
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hmm….this is interesting…..another google algorithm curiosity!
Andros who has been pretty silent on twitter….with an occasional tweet here, and an occasional tweet there….maintained page 1 position 1 in google for her main twitter page (with her secondary page she hasn’t used since april, maintaining position 2)….
Now that she has been tweeting like crazy (same crap she always tweets, just a shitload more then usual), has caused her twitter page to drop to page 1 position 8….how bazaar….
The other unusual thing, is it took her maria_andros twitter page down with it, so first and second became 8th and 9th. And logically (or even illogically) I can’t understand the reason why.
And interestingly enough….Pam Brossman took position one for her
Maria Andros Makes Aussie Mum $750K in 10 weeks …
video…and that thing was nowhere to be found before (well must have been page 4 or beyond) but all of a sudden page 1 position 1….how strange…
my head hurts again…..
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oh and the carpet cleaning event (that never happened) was apparently a three day intensive
http://img.skitch.com/20090709-n6eg5ep2ssxtuix81exsf282i.jpg
which was supposed to take place the 18-20th of September (so it was the hoe weekend).
No transformation to greatness for anybody…okay lets bow our heads and prey
————
Californialy father….let’s not let our eyes be plucked out by vultures
cuz that would really hurt….
and forgive us our transmigrations
as we forgive those who transmigrate into us.
for thine is dis…dat….and the udder thing….
forever and ever
Almonds!
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Okay, someone just informed me… not supposed to mention who tole me.
Maria will be announcing a “6 months” master mind to 20 people, with two real gatherings, and live interactive calls, not just a few a teleseminars. The two gatherings will be as follows….One in Beverly Hills in January, and one in Sandy Lego in May.
What are you going to pay for?
Well, a website redesign..?.basically.?..the ability to bounce idears and start JV’s off other boneheads who paid (the blind leading the blind leading the blind….so to speak)…and the rest sounds like BS rhetoric (not that the website redesign is anything spatial…probably just a “splashy” page…).
You will be learning from Maria and Christel Hughes (spiritual something, reiki master, NLP or some shit to the stars), or as Maria considers it “the whole team” (two people make a team?)…whateva….oh and she will be mentioning her last two videos (which she is calling the series…psychic me!)
If you think it is going to be easy to get in….fogetaboudit…it’s so limited (20 peepils) that you have to fill out an application process, and tell them your idea and a bunch of other shit to see if you will get accepted…I hear it will be tougher then getting above top secret classifications from area 51.5 (hahaha…who am I kidding…if you say the following….I’m a retard with a lot of money and I want to learn….you’re in)
I was not told about the price but based on the limited amount of people and the website thing…I’m guessing 5K….I believe it is being called the Marketing Freedom Mastery plutonium mastermind or some shit… who remembers….it was painful to hear…the official announcement should be coming soon….
I have to end this post now…so she doesn’t beat me to the punch and I have verifiable proof that I knew about her program before she did :)
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Oh sorry…almost forgot…I was informed that this video is supposedly from “her” condo at the beach…so you will get to see her beach front condo (or if she is true a wall or two), and a shot of the ocean….supposedly from the balcony… now don’t all rush to buy this program….I get first right of refusal ;)
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Noodlehead Reply:
November 17th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
I suppose all the “garbage people” will be shit-outta-luck (s.l.o.) then?
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barefoot_carrie Reply:
November 17th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Ahh, what a bummer, how do I know if I’m garbage or qualified to be in her program? Well, something tells me I’m garbage since I’m here on this site.
And she even re-tweeted me the other night. Plus, she likes Norah Jones too! Oh, and here’s her BFF Cristol doing Norah from her Twitter:
”love this cover of Norah Jones she looks like my BFF with same name! http://bit.ly/1rCtu6”
Somehow, I just can’t imagine being in mastermind with the illiterate Maria. Will it be programmed by her handlers and copywriters? Mary Ellen Tribby perhaps? Rich Schefren?
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Looks like the AI servers are slow…they know a launch is coming…must mean she is announcing it tonight…I didn’t know you can throttle back the bandwidth…then again….two people watching one streaming video, and you are SoL
..if you pay her….you contribute to her….you become ok in her book….something to strive for…
yeah…I saw the tweet and watched the video…the christel in the video has talent…unlike her BFF who’s only talent is following her around like a puppy dog….
Hmm….what’s with the launch delay….did this go out only to her students first (those she knows that may pay her)….weird…launching in 2 days and still no word…how bizarray..
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 17th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
no no…the beauty is if you buy her course….you’re not garbage in her eyes….
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Oh my gawd….Maria just pointed us to the very depth of her bimbeclity (on the eve of her new launch)…just announced on twitter, and you can read about it on the link I leave you below…I leave you with tiny tidbits of stupidity…I won’t be going through all of it…cuz half the fun is watching the creative ways you guys point out her deceitful ways.
“When you join me, together we are going to take your business to the next level and as a BONUS you will have a front of the lineaccess pass to my announcement tomorrow.” – Maria Andros
Wow….when you boneus…you really boneus…a front of line pass to an announcement…what a boneus…..
“Friend this is the real truth most people online and even some of the other Gurus are afraid to tell you… most people online will fail…” – Maria Andros
Fail?….really? How is that possible? I mean you provide the keys to the kingdom….did someone change the lock? What’s that….is it an eviction note from the sheriff…old keys Bimbecile…
“-Tania Gabrielle going from making $3-6 per month to as much as $24 K+ in a day now! YES Tania has just had her fourth consecutive FIVE FIGURE month!”
Wow…now that’s English….Tania went from 24K in 3 weeks….butt now…timeline changed to a boggling $24K in one day…hey why not…Incredible news on the fourth consecutive 5 figure months….considering two months ago she made the 24K…she’s super incredible…
“Everything behind what I do is mindset and breaking through fear and if you want to take your business to the six or seven figure level, like I’ve been able to do with video & social media…” – Maria Andros
Is this a sentence? What does it mean???? Finish it !!!!!
“I’m so happy Dr. Kilstein agreed to offer this to me ( with only a small shipping fee and you will get the program itself for no charge!”
Oh look a free bonus which you pay for…it’s the new millenium version of “free”
“Warning the last time I closed the doors it was almost 4 months before i re-opened the program and to be honest I do not know IF & WHEN the next one will be.” – Maria A. Andros
Yeah…no sense opening the amusement park when no-one wants to come to ride the rides.
“I’m honestly moved by my all my new AMAZING students who are LOVING the content and members area allready!” – Maria A. Andros
I won’t mention the allready…butt are they back to being students..and not clients…and not principles? sing…you put your left brain in …you put your left brain out…and you shake it all about…you do the hokey Androkey…and that’s what it’s all a ….. bout…..
“It’s the Blueprint of how I went from being a “makeup girl” earning $55 000 (canadian a year) to now making a HIGH six figure yearly income ( yes I still pinch myself daily)”
You forgot your past…you made $55K from your ambassadorship at the top fashion companies….try keeping your past straight…btw…we owned a fragrance and cosmetic company…we did not pay “makeup girls” $55K a year…a lot of mid level execs in the financial industry don’t make $55K a year…..and they can spell!…
“I hate to say it but if you snooze you lose:” – Maria A. Andros
everyone sing….When you find yourself in times of trouble… Mother Maria comes to me…singing words of wisdom…let them be….
“Blueprint” made over $24 000 + in less than 3 weeks and has had her fourth Consecutive “FIVE FIGURE Month”.” – Maria A. Andros
Yeah we read about Tania Gabrielle…..what you don’t realize now….is that $24K will be made in one day…not three weeks…you’re amazing at recreating her past…
“When I first got started everyone thought I was crazy thinking marketing with simple videos & social media could make me money…then I proved them ALL wrong when in less than 10 months I made over $100 000 with no adwords or expensive advertising, being a complete beginner with no technical background online.” – Maria A. Andros
Umm….that $100K was supposed to be your “ebay” income (I recognize the same 10 months period)…not your simple videos or social media….another lie bites the dust……”ebay” died like your ambassadorship…so sad…
“If you would like to come in at our yearly coaching program I am offering a $200 scholarship.”
But you charge $3000 an hour that gets me 4 minutes of coaching…oh my…do I get to touch your robe and see results….
“This stuff works so if you have implemented my tips in my newsletter and gotten results I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! I would love to have your personal testimonial that I may feature on my website and make you famous with !” – Maria A. Andros
Ohhh you want to hear from people who got results….ummm losing money is a result…just not a positive result….isn’t it strange your only “students” with super fab results are all close friends of yours…everyone else…not so much…how bizarre…..
I can’t go any further into this…I have a video to make for a client…I’m wasting to much time on this waste of an excuse of a human…but I will be back tomorrow after her launch…I just hope I don’t lose my launch… :)
http://www.getresponse.com/archive/mygoldminevideo/
I left the link to all her emails…some are missing…but hey…what can you do…
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Man, what a vile liar this woman is. Not even a good liar, you can see her making shit up as she goes, not even prepared in advance with her lies. How sad, how can these people live with themselves?
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Well, I wanted to order dammit…but her purchase agreement, earnings disclaimer, terms of use and privacy policy pages at the bottom aren’t working…just says page not found. Hmmm…
http://marketingfreedommastery.com/#buynow
Better check that out Maria. I hear you like to visit this place.
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Ok, seriously… Do people really fall for this crap? $10,000 for a private two-day retreat with Maria and Christel? I’m not sure, but I think that’s usually a different kind of business.
I love this one: ”You will get direct personal help from me live, in person and on the phone just like my private one on one client who pay me thousands of dollars per session do.”
You can’t put a sentence together with subject-verb agreement, but I’ma gonna’ give you $15,976 (or $14,997, if I want to take advantage of the “business tax exemption” nice of you to give me that option) ? And no, I do not “Perfer” to use Paypal or the “Belcher Button”
Unmitigated bullshit.
WINNER!! ::
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 20th, 2009 at 3:10 am
I fell for it Dave…sigh….it’s her power and ability to create hypnotiq language…
interesting…she added that “business tax deduction” line on one of her revisions……
“P.S.S.. By the way, one of the questions we have been asked is “My accountant says I should ask if I can pay all 8 payments up front to get the business tax deduction THIS year”.” – Maria A. Andros
Maria, tell your imaginical sign up (with the imaginical accountant), that he should fire his imaginary accountant’s sorry ass…
What I presume you mean, is that your imaginical person wants to use the “tuition” as a “business expense”…good luck with that..You’re not an accredited teaching institution, as such your “training” wouldn’t qualify as a “tax deduction”. You may call it “tuition”, but you can’t send your “students” a 1098T (well you could, but then you’d both be going to jail).
I assume that your imaginical person wants to use the “tuition” as a business expense…again… good luck with that….for it to be a valid business expense and “deductible”, the expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in the trade or business. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for the trade or business.
Food may be an ordinary and necessary expense for a caterer…but not for a print shop….And what the fuck do they tell the IRS..yes I went for training to a Mindset and Celebrity life Coach…and I learned how to have a celery like following with Raving fans following every move I make…I don’t think they would find it as funny as I do…
“This is pretty much the only way to get ongoing personal mentorship and coaching from me. I don’t offer this level of ongoing access except to my one on one client, which for the past 5 months has been closed and there’s been a waiting list” - Maria A. Andros
You put people on an imaginical waiting list, and yet you are going to leave them waiting….while attending to imaginical people who are signing up…that’s bad practise ….you should always take care of your imaginary clients/students/principles in the order you create them…it’s only right…..
And I beg you ….please let the people out of your phone……
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I get the impression that some of our D-bag friends are losing their fucking minds! $2000 per month! That can’t be happening.
Maria … seriously. I like messing with you and everything … but you’re gonna end up in jail girlfriend. Try :: as hard as you can :: to hit the brakes on your train-wreck.
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For $2,000 a month there better be massage oil involved.
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Facebook came out with a new doll…..what a striking resemblance….life in plastic…it’s fantastic
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8123/mariaandrosmedia.jpg
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yep Reply:
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:32 am
OMG…Cartman! That sent shivers down my spine all the way to my wallet.
It’s the female internet marketer equivalent of that little “Chuckie” horror doll! I’m already imagining nightmares where I wake up and there it is…standing over me holding a credit card to my throat.
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do…do…do..do..do…do.do…dateline…microsoft (remember, I am the creator..no not of the universal…of MicroSoft)….Andros caught in yet another deception…..
Maria Andros Caught in yet another of her lies….this time she was outed by you tube (shout out…thank you you tube)
You tube acknowledged a request (from those who asked) to incorporate video views for a channel, and now you tube channels display total video views. So unlike those who claimed millions of views, and claimed to hide away videos or take them down (see Andros I know what you told “others” last summer)..there was no way to objectively discern if someone was lying or not.
Well now there is…
For those who followed Andros, she has been claiming nearly 500K views since Dec ’08 (as seen on the link below)
“Almost 500,000 people have watched my videos and counting and I have helped many of my students some who were beginners to make their first $1000 + sales online.”- Maria Andros dec ’08
http://www.michellemacphearson.com/how-to-shine-in-2009-with-video/
Well, considering all of Maria’s gaming of video views by falsifying video description, keyword manipulation, inserting “compelling” images and auto loading videos (all to garner false views), Maria Andros still managed to come up slightly more then 250K (screen cap shots of her EFT “headache” video added most of the 67K gamed views (how do I know…analytical comparison of similar videos in the category…total auto load) she added over the course of the year which is short of the total views she claimed.
As of todays date
Total Video Views: 315,294
A full year passed since the 500K claim and more then 67K views (mostly gamed) were added in this year, and she is still short ~185K views….how fucking pathetic…
http://www.youtube.com/amazinglifenow
PS- while I realize that I spelled you tube as two separate words…I only have three words to say to that; “I am a leader with a celery like following” :)
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Jorge Reply:
December 16th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
That’s certainly very telling! Good analysis, Cartman.
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The problem with these fuck tard marketers is that they only tweet or start to talk when they are about to sell there bullshit. They do not want to have one on one with people unless it is just to spew out bullshit. Maria Andros is one of the biggest Fuck tards of them all. She could use that nose of hers as a DILDO! Maria you should make a plaster out of your nose and market it as a DILDO! I bet with all the shit you are full of you could sell those like crazy!
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_cartman_ Reply:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Yeah…unfortunately most of these “marketers” use metrics which can’t be confirmed to sell their lies, and people do not have the ability to analyze it fully (since most data is not public). Only by having all data available can one disseminate the truth (or in the case of Maria A. Andros, just compare one of her statements against another of her statements to note the ever changing differences).
Just as one example, Andros used to use her Alexa ratings to prove her “expertease” (making people believe that being in the top 100,000 was a big deal), there are many problems with this. Depending on your target audience, alexa (as well as compete) rankings are usually skewed way out of prospective, as “marketers” and wannabe “marketers” (brandish the Alexa and compete toolbar…tech sites are the worst for skewed alexa/compete rankings since tech geeks luv toolbars :)) artificially increasing rankings/visitors. Andros never shows concrete proof, like her headache clickbank results to even show things like her CTR (up to a few weeks ago she had a “link” in her EFT video), a “puppet” asked her about the success she claimed regarding that link (remember the $12,987 in two months BS claim…yeah that’s the alleged video)…she did not respond, and the next day (or later that day..can’t be sure), the link was gone from the description) in any of her “proof” videos, and only ever showed her Alexa ranking (now…not so much…why…some people left her less then stellar feedback in Alexa).
Does she show her “prospects” (aka victims) her google analytics data which show the number of unique visits, repeat visits, average times on her “popular site”…NO…why? It can’t be gamed (well it can, but not significantly due to the limited number of unique IP proxies which can be used to visit one’s own site (as a unique visitor). I did it in ’07 as a test..I was able to get my alexa ranking to 400K using 20 visits (from different IP addresses using proxies) from just me as traffic (the site was not indexed).
Anyways, another update….those of you may remember my last Maria Andros video test which I announced here on SaltyDroid which was mysteriously re-tweeted an inordinate amount of times (Andros re-tweeted it herself using different ity bity links), and was able to garner above her 50 odd twitter views reaching 200 odd views.
This time I did not announce what I was going to be doing …and ironically this time the views were abysmal (abysmal as usual)….the video was retweeted by tweet bots 6 times (andros tweeted it three times….and in 10 days it only received 59 “twitter” views (out of more then 100,000K followers between those that re-tweeted..she did not have time to game the views this time), and a total of 33 facebook views from her “facebook” followers (out of 4K plus…a celery like following if ever I saw one…but up from the usual 21 odd people that it usually tops out at).
Dec 19, 2009 First referral from – twitter.com 59
Dec 19, 2009 First embedded on – http://www.facebook.com 22
Dec 19, 2009 First referral from – http://www.facebook.com 11
I included only the link, only as proof of what I said (to view the metrics)….watch only at your own risk…Oh and how do I know that some of those are gamed…look under the “first referral from twitter.com”, and you will not something interesting (I won’t mention it outright, because of Andros reading here, but most will understand..speak bimbecile)
While I don’t believe this even has one iota of truth, her Business bimbecility speaks volumes in the following line
“setting up the new video studio”
Only a true Bimbecile would “claim” to be opening up a “video studio” in Los Angeles (everyone and their mother rents video studios and offers video services in LA) all while maintaining the guise of being a “marketing” goober….
Anyways gotta run going to the arctic to sell snow machines, and then heading to Dubai to try and sell them sand….
Fuck me….my head hurts….
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Check out this vid:
11k or so views, but click on the video stats and see the world map where the majority of the views came from. India.
Woops.
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Joe Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Now that’s funny! Maria has lots of admirers in India – and they just love to click on her video and increase her stats! Hilarious!
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SD Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Probably because it got embeded on what seems {via Alexa} to be a top Indian wank site :: http://www.glamgalz.com/index.php/glam-videos/pretty-maria-andros-photoshoot.html
Some pretty great comments …
Shanga said:
“yeh,,,,,,,,,,,, very $exyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy your eye,,,,,,,,, I lik more then eye you”
Zahid Khan said:
“your face is innocent and fresh……$exy too could u accept my offer to be my friend”
I don’t think many of those views converted into the sale of a $3000 “coaching” package.
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SD Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Very $exy your eye FTW! I’m not sure what it means :: but I’m going to start saying it for sure.
Very $exy your EYE!
… that felt great.
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Larry Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
And Prasanna said:
“hi dear you are so $exy i want to date with you”
Poor guy. Give her 10 years or 100,000 miles (whichever comes first) and see if he still feels the same way. (Assuming one could get her to just quit talking about ‘social media.’)
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_cartman_ Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 1:51 am
Oh wow, yeah, india….isn’t it fab…so…do you know Andros or something?
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Well, you saw her on Fox (??), you cringed when she charged $15K for an 8 week course with 2 “field” days…. and now Maria Andros is available for private ‘one on one’ viewing…..
That’s right, spend the day with Maria (never trade hours for money) Andros…weeks later will trade hours for money….
Tell em what they get Bob……
Well, a total VM&SM immersion day (no not that kind of SM). A one day intensive (private and customized)….where you will find out how to:
Tap into the power of video, social media & it’s global reach.
Re-vamp your website
Understand how to build “relationships”
Learn to create hypnotiq video
How to customize your brand
Create a celery like following
…..and much more
You might ask yourself…..how much will this cost me….
Well for the low low bargain basement price of $14,997 you can have your own private LA show….
Fly out to Beeutiful smog filled LA, and explore the dead flora and fauna on your way to Maria Andros N. Canon Drive virtual office in Beverly hills, and bask in the luxurious 120sqft of the most elegant virtual luxury (luxury sold separately) you have ever laid your eyes on. As an added bonus, you will get to visit her beeutiful apartment by the beach in Sonny Santa Monica… at the beautiful Sea Castle Santa Monica http://www.theseacastle.com/ ….bask in the grandeur of 375 sq.ft of total elegance (elegance sold separately).
Marvel at her expertease as she tells you that a left margin should start 300 pixels to the left as opposed to 250 pixels to the left.
Gasp in aww of her brilliance, as she teaches you how to open a youtube account (the complexity of which are shear mind boggling), a twitter account and a facebook account (the holy trinity of Social Media).
Learn about facebook, understand how to make friends…
That’s not all…you will also get links to “special” price twitter, youtube backgrounds, as well as a plethora of other affiliate links to some of the best viral media tools available, like traffic geyser…(warning…traffic geyser is so powerful that using it may cause a traffic jam…in the case of a traffic jam…you may not get any visitors to your site, as the traffic bottlenecks just before it reaches your site and is sidetracked..rest assured it is working)
If your busy schedule won’t allow you to make it out to LA have no fear…Maria Offers a $20K/day (+ transport, 1stclass air, exp.,accom).
Maria will leave her Ca location at 10am PDT, arrive at your location on the east coast at approximately 6pm EDT, you will meat her at the airport where she will ask you how you enjoyed your day, you will have time for one photo as she heads back on a return flight…
http://mariaandros.com/coaching/
Investment:
On-site in L.A. $14,997
Off-site: $20,000 per day plus first class airfare, transporation, accomodations and expenses.
At least she spelt expenses right…..my head hurts real bad…..
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SD Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Oh god … kill me now!
I love that the SeaCastle website comes with sound effects … it’s much classier than anything Maria has ever done on the web.
… and how about this sentence from the bio page of her new site …
“She now earns a high “Six Figure” ,soon to be “Seven Figure Income” and lives the lifestyle of her dreams in beautiful Southern Calfornia.”
Ha! I notice a few “mistakes” there :: but I think the “air quotes” are just about right.
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_cartman_ Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
“In 1997, a friend recommended she watch the movie “The Secret”. ” – Maria Andros
Kind of funny considering the movie came out in 2007…oh yeah…math….right
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Clyde Reply:
January 23rd, 2010 at 2:39 am
Look at the pics of the “rooftop skylounge” in Maria’s building! The epitomy of luxury, or something. Looks more like the TV viewing room at a nursing home, without any TV. But hey, it sounds good!
http://www.theseacastle.com/living/photogallery/gal-skylounge.html
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Clyde Reply:
January 23rd, 2010 at 2:45 am
This is how Maria’s building describes itself:
“Flexible lease terms make for a great hotel alternative…”
(And of course it goes unsaid that it’s an even better alternative to living in your car.)
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Holy shit guys, between your postings on the 22nd and today (23rd in Kabul) her price has gone way up. You also have more options. You can now be double exclusive for ONLY $100k per year plus 15% of profit. Hurry though, she’s only going to grace 5 people with that deal. Somebody must have told her she was leaving money on the table, so she upped the price tags.
Here is the text in its full glory, in case she changes it again before morning in the States:
Maria only works with a small handful of private clients per month at a time, by application only. To learn more and to get on the priority waitlist please contact my team at support@videomarketingqueen.com
Option #1 ”Diamond Level” (limited to 5 people, by application only)
Exclusive Consulting with Maria and the exclusive “Diamond” membership
Investment:
$100,000 year +15% on profits generated.
Unlimited access to Maria for all your marketing needs, campaigns and much more… For more information and to fill out an application please email us.
Option 2 “Platinum Level” (limited to 10 people, by application only)
Investment:
$9,200 monthly exclusive membership privileges
Get personal and one on one coaching with Maria live or via video chat for four hours each month and private email access for any additional support. For more information and to fill out an application please email us.
Option #3 “Gold Level”
Investment:
$1,997.00 monthly membership (limited to 12 people, by application only)
Each month you will have a LIVE 30 minute call with Maria where she will laser target and coach you to what action steps you need to take to see real-time results in your business.
You will also be a part of an intimate mastermind group where you will be held accountable and supported with monthly one hour group calls. This is a powerful space and opportunity to be on the “Hot Seat” and have Maria and the group to help you to address your current biggest challenges helping you excel to success.
You will also have a private forum with other fellow “gold” members.
Option #4
Video Marketing & Social Media
Two-Day VIP Mastermind Intensive
Hands-on Training in L.A. *LIVE* in person or via video chat with Maria.
Receive two fully customized on-site training days for you, your team and your vision.
If you’re serious about your online video and social media success, you don’t have a single minute to waste, you’re someone who wants to see FAST results and you’re willing to take the right actions, then the Video and Social Media Immersion Day is for you.
Meet with Maria to create your personalized online branding & expansion strategy.
Included in this powerful package are a professional photoshoot with Maria’s very own photographer. Together we will create your new image and look, to unify your “Personal Brand” and to bring out the star that you are.
After your photoshoot, you will meet with Maria to mastermind and create your action steps to catapult your business to the next level with proven marketing strategies. On day two of your intensive, you will sit down with Maria and mastermind where you will learn how to:
Fully maximize, monetize and tap into the power of video,social media (Twitter, Facebook, etc…)and it’s global reach.
Re-vamp your website so that it converts and brings in new clients and subscribers.
Understand how to build relationships and use social bookmarking sites correctly.
Learn to create hypnotic videos that call your prospects into action.
How to customize and personalize your “Brand” across all the social media mediums for maximum impacts.
Create a celebrity like following online by positioning yourself in front of your target market correctly.
…and much more!
Investment:
On-site in L.A. $25,000
Off-site: $30,000 per day plus first class airfare, transporation, accomodations and expenses.
(By application only)
Please email my team at support@videomarketingqueen.com to fill out an application
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_cartman_ Reply:
January 23rd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Ummm….just a shout out to Andros who is reading here….regardless of how HIGH you put the price, business is all about trading “one *commodity* for another” (money for talent, like when I panhandle), whether one commodity is highly “leveraged” or even if it is not. My team was being “SAR-CAUSTIC” when I stated you are now “trading dollars for hours”. Try grasping this concept….you were always trading money for time…no matter how “leveraged”…get it now?…moving on….
Sorry Dave….
yeah….Andros is keeping us amused….when she read my teams post how she was going to lose a whole day flying, AND how she was trading dollars for hours (obviously didn’t grasp the sarcasm involved), AND the summary about Brunson charging for a $25K day at his Potato office, she couldn’t “cheapen” herself, and upped her prices….
Andros “thinking”; “If Brunson can charge $25K for a day with him (and his team), then I can charge $25K for my day. If Brunson charges 10K for a “partnership”. I can charge 100K +15% prophets”. I increased my prices…so up yours! (okay Andros..that was so un-lady like) –source: the universal mine
When my team mentioned her video that was coming out before her overpriced product launch (which apparently was a real “bargain”, based on these new prices), she “canned” it, just to prove me wrong. No pretty beach “apt” video…no pretty beach shot….nada….okay…okay….
Andros is of the belief that if you charge $1 for a something and make $.30 net, and usually sell a million (making $300K)…then the logical extrapolation is just charge $10…net $9.7…you’ll sell that same 1 million (make $9.7M and retire)…hmmmm….maybe she should be looking for sparticles..Why? …cuz everyone needs a “superpartner” to make an elementary theory like that work!!!
“(By application only)”
Someone should applicate. I would be liking to see the application form. I doubt she would fall for any application request, since I highly doubt anyone asked for an application form to date (including the last time she was out to lunch…i mean launch…hehehe…a freud chicken slip)
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I predict she doesn’t get one single taker, period. Not in this economy, unless she’s offering some major unadvertised “bonuses.” It’s either her wishful fantasy to land a big, dumb, easy gig, or she’s posturing to make her next info product seem like “quite the deal” in comparison.
Here’s what’s really funny: you just know there has to be NO “team.” It’s all just her, posing as an “organization.” If you need support, it’s most certainly her, pretending to be “Jane, support technician” or whatever.
Look at how she writes (from above): “Maria only works with a small handful…” then followed by, “To learn more and to get on the priority waitlist please contact MY team at…”
Right there in mid-b.s., she shifts from being someone else and building herself up, to just being her plain old self.
Her inconsistency is really quite consistent.
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lol wtf this Maria Andros must have a learning disability
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Leroy Reply:
January 23rd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
More like an EARNING disability (but don’t tell her that).
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Well, it appears another of Maria Andros lies has been taken apart. I was searching on youtube and found the following video brandishing first position for the search term Maria Andros. It came ahead of her 527 other videos containing that term. She must be pissed. The queen of video marketing was usurped by some unknown individual
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh8gCjtdgDY
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Interesting disclaimer from the almighty Bimbecile….
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“Please read my Affiliate Disclaimer: From time to time, I will promote, endorse, or suggest products and/or services for sale. My recommendation is ALWAYS based on my belief that the product and it’s creator will provide excellent and valuable information, based on my relationship with them, and or if I have experienced the product. In some cases, I will be compensated if you decide to purchase that product based on my recommendation. Always do your OWN due-diligence before making any purchases. Never purchase anything that you cannot afford. Most people don’t do anything with the products they buy, so most of the time, their typical results are zero. To your success!
February 7th, 2010 at 5:17 pm”
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“my belief that the product and it’s creator will provide excellent and valuable information, based on my relationship with them”
Your “relationship” with them is financial (since this is an an “affiliate” disclaimer)….furthermore, your belief doesn’t factor into anything, only what you state in your sales letter….
“Most people don’t do anything with the products they buy, so most of the time, their typical results are zero. To your success!”
bimbecile…excuse me…butt….if you are going to be quoting results in your sales copy….you have to show typical results in your sales copy, not “allude” to typical results in your disclaimer….
That means you can’t show the wieners (like “your” claim that your “buddy” made $500K last year) and then state, butt… most do not make a thing. Then quantify that with…butt only because most don’t do a thing.
Your own disclaimer implies that the only reason people would fail to make what you are claiming in your sales copy, is if they don’t do anything with the product. That would tend to Indicate that anyone who does implement the product can expect the typical results (in this case typical being the only result you share ($500K in a year) advertised.
Furthermore, if you make a “financial claim” in your sales copy, you better have documented proof of what you stated is true, or your statement would be construed as deceptive (or worse as fraud)…
Again…for the record…even the old FTC regulations did NOT allow for deceptive advertising practices even with your “cute” earnings disclaimer….which I did not find that amusing to be honest…and was a slap in the face to anyone with even a modicum of intelligence…
http://www.getresponse.com/archive/mygoldminevideo/how-to-make-money-from-your-blog-dont-have-one-this-is-critical-3747501.html
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She has a way with words. Too bad it’s not a good way.
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Maria Andros has looked into _cartman’s_ crystal balls and made a video about 2010 predictions. Apparently, she is psychic too!
Predictions by Maria Andros
I. Videos will be available in 2010
II. 2010 is the year to realize our full potential
III. 2010 is time to take your global business online globally
IV. Unless you’re clear and you have clarity you will need success
V. Every moment is a new opportunity
VI. In 2010 you are new in this moment so take your level to the next level
VII. What is your quality of your relationships
VIII.What do you do in your spare time?
IX. Take the action steps to create your empire
X. Get clear about clarity, eventually clearing up all obstacles to success
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Burpus Reply:
May 16th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Wow, that’s almost as accurate as a newspaper horoscope.
Judging by the position of the shadow coming off Maria’s nose, it must be about 2 o’clock her time.
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Nikki Reply:
May 17th, 2010 at 5:13 am
@Burpus, I’ve just watched about 20 seconds of the video – her forehead doesn’t move at all. Botox, perhaps?
Or maybe celery has magical healing powers…who knows.
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Burpus Reply:
May 17th, 2010 at 9:27 am
@Nikki, My guess would be Sears latex exterior house paint. I’m more impressed that she can still talk while her ventriloquist drinks a glass of water.
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iwlkweiowk Reply:
May 17th, 2010 at 10:22 am
@Burpus, I’m a nurse and I say she’s a tranny. Don’t you see that shaved adam’s apple?
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Nikki Reply:
May 17th, 2010 at 5:09 am
@bottle nose, I had to read that a few times as my poor addled brain can’t make any sense of it.
Then I remembered – trying to make sense of things coming from those that are obviously far superior to me just doesn’t work – I don’t have a celery-like following to translate my words into “you know, like, yeah, like, whatever” language.
Unfortunately I’m rather fond of the English language, and would like to continue using it in a fashion that others (and by others, I don’t just mean those that pay me their life savings for some crappy lesson in self-promotion) understand.
For that reason alone, I will never be a guru with a celery-like following.
*cries*
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_cartman_ Reply:
May 18th, 2010 at 3:44 am
@Nikki,
Botox? no…no….full plastic surgery….but she’s talking a wee bit ‘simple’ like….from the secret archives…shhhh
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkW3rhX1kdY&22
WINNER!! ::
+21
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SD Reply:
May 18th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
@_cartman_
Highlarious! Someone should sell action figures of all the characters here.
The Maria Andros action figure :: now with kung-fu grip. What she grips is up to you!
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Jake Reply:
May 18th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
HOLY HOLY it’s the risen Michael Jackson from the dead!!
Oh wait on second thought it’s only Marilyn Manson’s twin sister
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_cartman_ Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
@SD,
Thanks…Had some time to kill, and I had been dying to test out the new roto brush in AE CS5 (your video inspired me)….it’s a fucking sweet tool…
I was able to roto out her face and neck (~1800 frames) in less then 10 minutes…..and then something went horribly wrong, and a small project turned into a weekend killer….
Her ‘hair and upper torso’ took a bit (well HOURS) longer to roto (I would have been ever so grateful to be able to key her out (damn eWe universal))…she was in the sky lounge beside a picture frame (which caused the mask to leave the confines of her head [note to andros:comb your hair, and stop touching your face..it's a PITA to roto hands and fingers] and extend into the black part of the picture…[note to andros:please color your hair Ronald McDonald red])….the main color of the dress blended with the wall color (I even had trouble differentiating dress from wall..cheap fucking mini flip) so it was basically frame by frame roto work…
Overall, the roto brush did a great job….butt….if you don’t need to work with the roto data….render the layer…or it will “refresh” the roto mask (on every frame) every time you make a change (& sometimes just randomly while scrubbing…wasting ~5 minutes each time it happened to ‘refresh’ each and every frame)…..butt…after the 50th odd time…I said no more, and rendered the layer (i’m not stoopid….apparently I’m just real fucking slow).
On a final note….AE finally utilizes 64bit architecture, and uses the full power of the CPU & mem….it ate through resources like Starvin Marvin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvin_Marvin_(South_Park) )…it chomped through 9Gb (leaving 3Gb behind for all other adobe programs) of memory like it was an ap-per-tiz-zer…. when rendering, it was able to utilize the full 8 threads from all four cores…making it much faster then CS4….I should install the 32bit version of AE CS5 and test the difference in render speeds…
…hmm…I went off track….well….I understand the maria dull is already available….made by fa-tel, comes with iphony, SMTB plaque, money packs, and 8×10 glossies (pink misterroti sold separately)…pull the sting in her back, and she vocalizes one of 30 self-aggrandizing sayings….
hmmm….thinking….maybe I should make an interactive flash….
http://img697.imageshack.us/i/mariaandrosmedia.jpg/
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Nikki Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 7:19 am
@_cartman_, superb picture!! No celery in sight, just an empty soul…
_cartman_ Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
@Nikki,
Thank you…yeah I forgot the celery…sigh….I guess the celery like following is ‘made-up’ separately.
Nikki Reply:
May 21st, 2010 at 4:34 am
@_cartman_, the celery-like following only comes if you spend your life savings (and that of your parents, or any other relative) learning the ‘secret’ of gaining celery…
I can’t possibly tell you what that secret is as a) I don’t have any rich relatives (boo!) and b) I have better things to do with my time than pay people to tell me how to get fake friends. I just use my imagination to talk to all my fake friends / followers / celery.
It’s incredible…all the cutting edge stuff that’s out there….And speaking about cutting edge (maybe dragged some along the concrete) a “student” of Maria Andros is presenting a ONE day Video Master Class Training program….for the rock bottom price of $997 (wow…they’re practically giving it away!).
here’s what one “customer” had to say
“By day 2 of this amazing seminar I got my video on Page 1 for 2 of my keywords” (did they not get the memo that it is just ONE day…well…at least we know it is an Andros type of TestiMOANial)
Included in your “tuition” price are $500 worth of Boneuses!!! Have they lost their frickin minds! It’s already so cheap….and with all those boneuses…they are practically paying us to impart their wisdumb!!!
One might ask; “butt _cartman_, what do you learn in a Mastery class, and how can you become a Master in just one day?”
I’m glad you asked (even though the question did come through as just a wee bit fucking skeptical)….if we are really honest with ourselves…once you take all the fluff out of getting a Masters degree (in anything) at EVEN an accredited University….the actual amount of training is really no more then 6-7 hours TOTAL (I can provide documented statistics)…and you really don’t get a Q&A session (total boneus I might ad) to prepare ewe for the real world..
Look at just some of the things ewe (remember there is no I in Team but there is wee in ewe…huh?…whateva..) will be learning…
“How to setup your own your video hosting channel” (Andros English..the student has been authenticated)
(translation:how 2 set up a youtube channel…how many of us have spent weeks (if not months) trying to muddle threw the shear (my mama says ewe should always shear your knowledge) complexities of setting up a youtube channel)
“How to setup your video distribution account”
(translation:how to buy a traffic geyser account…how can they provide so much fricken value….for such a low price…it’s unbelievable)
“How to get the video from your camera into onto your computer” (grate stuff…I know I have been attempting since 2005 to get my video off my camCorder and into onto my computer…I’m already feeling liberated)
“How to upload your video into your editing package(pinnacle)”
And so much more cutting edge stuff, that it !wobbles the mind! If we can be totally honest with ourselves…we can honestly say this is not a Video Masters class…….this is the frickin Ph(fucking)D of video training….I mean….you can go to a “video” school for 4 years spend $100′s of $1000′s of dollars…and maybe…if you are lucky…be working with some third rate producer (in 10-20 years)….or take this course….and be working with the likes of James Cameron in less then a week….it’s really a no brainer!
Can you imagine your video showing up on the first page of google. That’s rite….you are going to learn how to get on the first page of google, and dominate for your keyword phrase….anytime someone types in your longtail keyword phrase like, for example, ie, eg: “I’m really tired of blue monkeys flying out of my butt, and I really just want to learn to market with videos to get free leads and traffic chasing me, without having to spend thousands in marketing”…chaching!!…your fucking video shows up front and center…..
I don’t know about you guys…butt…I am taking the course (mama didn’t raise no foos)…gotta run…going out now to open those bank accounts….and going universal mine window shopping, to figure out what I am going to spend when I have a billion dollars (maybe some Mac and Cheese with goremay cheeses…upgrade my Yugo to a nice reliant automobile (with full faux leather interior)…and buy a beautiful green dress for my wife..and goremay treats for Arthur Anderson and Jeffrey Skilling (our cats)!!…
http://businessvideomarketingseminars.com/videoediting/
Thank you universal! Being in toon with with universal mine, is like winning the lottery on a daily basis….it’s truly magical….
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Universal American InnerNational Association Of Society Reply:
June 13th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
@_cartman_, the videos on that site are lame as can be for a site that is supposed to show you how to use video marketing to promote and sell. The people running the site are totally fucking useless, much like Maria Andros, they talk a lot of hype, but have ZERO portfolio to show off their skills. Wankers.
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Nikki Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 9:17 am
@Universal American InnerNational Association Of Society, that’s the thing I’ve never understood & what has made me smell a rat with so many of these supposed experts.
Surely, if you’re trying to sell something to prove you’re an expert, then you need to actually be at least reasonably well-qualified in your subject or well-versed.
If you can’t show me how I can improve, why would I want to learn from you?
We can take video marketing as an example. Now, I don’t have a clue, and I happily admit that. But if I wanted to learn, then I’d look for someone whose videos I enjoyed & I thought were well produced.
Otherwise I may as well ask my cat for tips on video production.
If you claim to be an expert, people are going to ask for proof – both statistical and evidence-based (i.e. show me your YouTube channel with the video with the 10 million views).
None of this “oh, I’m too modest to share it with you”. Er, no. Not when you’re trying to sell yourself.
Hang on, just realised how that last paragraph sounds…oh well, it still works!
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betty boo Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
@Nikki, maybe Maria Andros is making six figures a year in another kind of “video marketing”… .. … … ….. …. . . ….
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hmm….interesting….
Salty dude, it appears the bimbecile is in your city and state (at least that is her claim) for an unspecified period of time…do you have a convention going on in your city?
On a separate issue….this address is linked to a location directly but inadvertently (or indirectly and vertently) provided by Jimmy Davis (c/o: Universal Mine). I was informed that this is “his” lake house.
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=14846+Victory+Ct.+++&where=Carmel%2C+IN
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/14846-Victory-Ct-Carmel-IN-46032/73258588_zpid/
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Check out the Maria Andros review HERE:
“Video Marketing Queen… not in the least”
“Her course consists mainly of “self-aggrandizement” (on a constant basis), about why her course is great and why she is great, with little to no practical substance to the course itself.”
http://www.imreportcard.com/people/maria-andros
You can pretty much disregard all the other “glowing” reviews which appear to be totally bogus.
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_cartman_ Reply:
July 28th, 2010 at 1:33 am
@Well Well,
Surprise….IM report card provides an affiliate link….for $1,250 in conmissions they give her a neutral positive….that’s nice…considering they never took the course…
Surprising IM report card allowed that feedback…then again…considering the date, I guess they had no residual financial interest not to allow it….if that would have come in when they were giving her a positive review, I kind of wonder if it would have been allowed (or how long it would have been held back).
9 people commented (3 of which are not flattering), yet 24 graded her and gave her an A- average rating…..strange….wonder how many of those 21 ratings (and 6 comments) are Andros in disguise….or belong to IM report card…
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Maria Andros is teaming up with Oliver Talamayan. Nice combo, I know he will take her to the cleaners, because Manila, Phillipines = scam capital of the world. The corruption is so thick in that country that probably only 1 out of 30 people (I’m pulling this figure out of my ass, but I’m trying to make a point, it may be more like 1 out of 50) you come across there would be considered honest. The social consciousness there is quite different, and their conception of “honesty” leaves quite a bit to be desired for.
It’s going to be funny when Maria’s buddy Oliver gets done cheating consumers and turns around and cheats her too. Hahahah
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You should read Maria Mandro’s posts on Facebook (yeah I cannot help but look sometimes)
Basically she posts (frequently) about how she didn’t just get where she is because of her looks you know (yeah no shit sherlock!)
and says how many guys a day tell her how hot she is.
I admit it’s going to be fun to watch that Mandros (was she born a woman?) have a total meltdown one day and just freak.
Oh and if she mentions one more time how she lives RIGHT ON THE BEACH NOW.. right on the OCEAN you know people! I think I’ll have to gag.
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_cartman_ Reply:
August 29th, 2010 at 1:35 am
@No Mandros,
Yeah, her messages are hilarious…I can do without all the repeat events, and the self-aggrandizing posts…but since she claims her new program is coming out early fall (from spring, then early summer, then late summer) it’s all par for her coarse…and besides which…take those away and she’ll have nothing left…
Well…the LOL is right…i’m CONfused….if we have to be careful what we wish for now…why do we have to buy your “fast-track” manifestering coarse later? Oh man…you’re like a person who rebels against authority…what’s the word I’m thinking of…starts with an A..ends with ist…oh yeah..you’re an antichrist
Wasn’t Dorothy suffering from delusions by being knocked in the head with a flying cow…ohh wait no…that was twister…right…she was suffering from delusions from a high fever…okay…that explains a lot…
yeah…yeah…everyone’s a fucking rockstar…I mean the first person that comes to mind when I think “video rockstar” is Gideon Shillwack…and a distant second is James Cameron…..by rarely, you mean once a week….I guess one persons rare, is another persons continuous spam.
ummm….no comment….butt….”luck” isn’t the word I would use…
Okay..when she’s right…she’s right…this fucking works…
Ask and it will be given -
I went to a restaurant, asked for a salad…a salad was given to me, if only I knew earlier…you know how many times I sat at a restaurant table not saying anything, and never getting any food, while all those around me were being fed (if only I had Andros wisdumb earlier…butt…I had no mentor….I was suffering from “mentor retardation”)…I felt like a fucking caveman (cavemen and dinosaurs were extincted in the 1960′s…right about the time they invented shoes…so don’t feel bad if you didn’t know…I didn’t know either)
Knock and the door will be opened to you-
I went to a friends house…stood in front of the door..nothing…I knocked…he opened (spooky…yet magical)…thank you universal….I might add….ring bell also works…I think about all the past wasted trips, and it makes me sad….if only I would have pieced it together sooner…..
Seek and you will find-
I would tell you about my finding my car key by looking for it….but I’m afraid you just wouldn’t believe it….all you non-believers- Repent…
ummm….right…”intuitive honesty”..and “truthfulness in regards to motivations” (sounds like a very self-serving definition of “integrity”)…translator says: you can be as dishonest as you please, as long as your honest with yourself about your dishonesty with others….hmmm…I don’t think that is “integrity”…did a new dictionary come out….memos people….memos…
hmmm…maybe their not so funny….I have an ouchie in my head….
California Prop 65.4 Warning Sign: Warning: This Post Contains Sayings Known To The State Of California To Cause Stupidity Or Other psychological harm. Read at your own risk. Continued exposure is hazardous to your mental health.
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oh funny i didn’t even realize that the person above me called her Mandros too. I swear. now that is funny.
EVERYONE THINKS SHE’S a MANdros
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Blimpie Reply:
August 28th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Yeah, how about that “lovely” Adam’s Apple…
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LOL Blimpie.. She is tall without too many curves (in a BAD way)
you think she was born a mandros?
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Maria Mandros obviously must visit this blog.
She has made DMCA claims to youtube for EVERY video about her that has also appeared on this blog. Because none of the people who have posted those great videos has replied to the automated youtube messages, those videos have all been removed.
For anyone who has posted one of those videos (or plans to make and post one – yay!), remember that these CAN stay up…you just need to respond to the youtube emails and claim FAIR USE. Those videos are only coming down because of non-response.
FAIR USE is on your side!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
http://w2.eff.org/IP/eff_fair_use_faq.php
http://www.eff.org/issues/ip-and-free-speech/fair-use-principles-usergen
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Maria Andros you so purddy done let dem be jellis over you. Theyz just jellis over your long flowin’ hair and your style and grace all over d place. Theyz wish theyz made millions of dollars online doin’ videos in front of the computer. Theyz jellis over your celery-like following. Haterzzz
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LOVE her facebook updates you mention!
The BEST though was just a few weeks ago when she went on (not verbatim) but saying “I’m a unique beauty and think I’m very similar to Princess Diana”
Oh GOD i wanted to comment so badly.
Princess Diana!?!?! She might have had a pronounced nose too (in a good way-not a shnoz the size of Brooklyn) but honey she was a class act. There is NO comparison. Don’t even TRY it!
Princess Diana. She had more class than you have Maria in your little man hand finger!
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_cartman_ Reply:
September 7th, 2010 at 2:05 am
@No Mandros,
Ohh…this one…I missed it….
I can’t honestly figure out what she’s trying to say, but if she is CONsidering “herself” a humanitarian, someone should REALLY provide her with a dickshunairy.
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Snozzy Reply:
September 7th, 2010 at 2:52 am
@_cartman_, She just needs to pack it in, go find herself a sugar daddy (if she doesn’t already have one), and get back behind the cosmetics counter. All of her fake wannabe guru pretense is epic fail.
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_cartman_ Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
@Snozzy,
Andros is ALL about pretense. Her li
fe is a storyvision-board….from her claim of daddy calling her a queen (done as damage CONtrol),to her totally fabricated history (which she “borrowed” from her sister-in-law)…Andros spends more time trying to CONvince people she’s great, rather then working on actually trying to be great…and just today (NOW deleted)…
Not having any publicity at all, is worse then being “unmasked” as a fraud…who knew…it must be true…she capitalized HELPING (for emphasis)…and with videos titled “Maria’s trip to the Apple store caught on tape” (a self filmed video)…she’s arrived at superdumbstar already…
Ours is not to reason why, ours is just to laughing die (note to self: don’t mess up anymore proverbs).
PS – this message comes as a direct result of my reinstatement of my Andros youtube videos..
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SD Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
@_cartman_ ::
Horrah!
Hopefully this will inspire my fake secretary Debbie to file my counter-notices and get my accounts back. But I kind of doubt it … she’s such a lazy bitch!
Hello I’m Maria Andros and welcome to this video …
selfsuperstardumb
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_cartman_ Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
@SD,
You have to drop that fake Zero (snap)..and get yourself a fake Hero (snap snap)…
That’s why you need personnel-vision(tm), a team of plastic people (part of the future-real(tm) line…each team member sold separately)….I only ever use a top-notch plastic team, second to none! When you are in an 8 figure a year busyness…you can’t play around with outsourcing…
and speaking about play (I know how to balance delusion with reclusion) …I took out the Vector W8 along with the refueling chopper in celebration…future-real(tm) life is sweeet….
The Crowd Roars Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
@_cartman_, So glad to see your videos back up. They are freaking brilliant!
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_cartman_ Reply:
September 9th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
@The Crowd Roars,
Thank you…I’m pleased to know some real people watch them…and enjoy them. :)
cartman, do u think maria has a landing strip, totally shaven, or triangle muff? i go with landing strip.
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Yo! Reply:
September 11th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
@Peppery Droid, Aircraft carrier.
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ummm…since when is buying personal hygiene products considered “outsourcing”…it appears no one got her that dickshunairy…
we order take out, ipso calypso, that must make us CEO’s (or would that classify as CFO)…this afternoon the board of directors are meeting to pick out my underwear….
my fucking head hurts again…
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SD Reply:
September 20th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
@_cartman_ ::
ha! Oh Maria … so bad … and yet so so good.
Here’s another ESSENTIAL tip for would-be webtrepreneur CEOs …
If you’re a fucking idiot {Maria!} … outsource the creation of your fake content to someone who isn’t. If you think you can’t afford it … cut toiletries from your outsourcing budget and recalculate.
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208-577-6210 Reply:
September 20th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
@_cartman_, and I’m supposing that for those super-important business trips across the Atlantic, Maria doesn’t just frantically flap her arms like the rest of us. She gets on a plane, with a pilot, and.. (continues for hundreds of thousands of pages)…
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Dander Reply:
September 20th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
@_cartman_, Wow, you can buy toiletries ONLINE? I hope Andros will elaborate some more on that, instead of just leaving us hanging. Maybe you have to buy her coaching to learn all the secrets of buying toiletries online.
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Nasally Inclined Reply:
September 20th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
@_cartman_, Once again, I appreciate you for sharing her eternal goodness. Butt let’s stay on point here: She’s right. I outsource most of my book sales to Aamazon, and it has been really great to allow me more beach millions. I have been outsourcing my fast track manifesting soon in a future program I plan on creating, until then I am careful what I wish for. This morning I updated my masturbations. I don’t do a lot of spanking events (only big events that I resonate with).
The nose knows.
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perhaps she could buy a brain online too
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Anybody need a job? Maria’s hiring and gracefully graceously giving us all the once in a lifetime opportunity to work with her team.
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Floyd Reply:
September 29th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
@fdasdf, Of course, by “team” Maria is referring to her two hands and the fantasy in her head.
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Nikki Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 3:34 am
@Floyd, wasn’t it both Joan Armatrading & Beyonce that have released songs called “Me, Myself, I”??
Perhaps she’s been listening to those and thinking it means 3 separate entities.
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@cartman , your wonderful buddy has a whole site dedicated to her! Check it out http://www.mariaandros.ca
Is this woman still trying to make money or has she finally given up?
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Shoebert Reply:
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 am
Excellent “tribute” site. Let’s all start putting up some helpful links to that on forums and blogs and such. :)
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Maria Andros uses shills on her youtube to make it seem like she’s got a lot of views.
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OMG I just listened to this video you posted Salty, I can’t believe she is telling men to wear dresses on her coaching calls. WTF???????
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Go barefoot and pretend there’s tree roots coming out of your feet??????????????????????????????????????? If you lean forward you’re in the future if you lean backward you’re in the past?????WTF!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What drugs is this woman on?? Must be those “fun shrooms” Andy Jenkins was talking about.
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Hmm…anyone hear anything about this?
http://www.videoconversionformula.com/
http://www.video-conversion-formula.com/
Video crap in a box? I’m on a boatload of lists (why damn it, why!) and I haven’t heard a thing about this.
Anyone have details.
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Flea Circus Reply:
October 10th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
@_cartman_, Maybe she’s referring to the videos they put up on the high shelves, above the sports magazines, and closest to the beer cooler. Or maybe she’s just talking out of her adam’s apple.
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 11th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
@Flea Circus,
Nothing would surprise me about Andros or her new coarse Video Conversion formula.
Okay…it appears to be a $1997 coarse (big surprise there). And it’s Jenkins, Fleecme and Schefren (front and center).
Her designer kept the page (actually a whole affiliate mini site) from being indexed, but luckily someone else made it public (thank you stranger). It would appear she is going the way of continuity (a coarse that keeps on taking).
She gives you a list of sites to spam, a list of prizes (ohhh anti-gravity flight or a Bali Vacation, OR you can get the VCF plutonium edition…umm…sure…why not…[[want the Bali Vacation?…ohh..no no…please give me the worthless Video Conversion Formula Plutonium upgrade)
http://www.videoconversionformula.com/jvpartnerblog/
http://vcformula.s3.amazonaws.com/newjvblog.mov
http://vcformula.s3.amazonaws.com/Trailer-LowRes10.1.10tg.m4v
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Frank Reply:
October 11th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
@_cartman_, What a crock!
The video actually says this:
“The Video Has Been Rated GR-13″
“Getting Rich Cautioned”
Getting rich? Since when has Maria Andros gotten anyone “rich?” Or even “gotten rich” herself?
She is totally over the top now.
I’d love to see a new video from you Cartman. Your videos rock, and this soooooo could use one!
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Larry Reply:
October 11th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
@_cartman_, Andros is promoting a multi-level affiliate payout scheme with that. I’m curious about the legalities of doing that, if anyone knows? Seems like there have been lots of new laws and regulations in recent years that would make it fairly onerous to pull that off. Anyone?
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 11th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
@Frank,
hmmm…I didn’t even notice that video intro [[well she'd have a hard time denying it is a business opportunity with that kind of intro]]…I wonder if the 13 rating means she won’t screw anyone younger then 13 [[she has morals you know]].
She’s already ratcheting the BS up a notch for her coarse
Yeah, or at least until they lie about their great “suckcess”, so you can keep attempting to sell your $2K lies (and pay $1K to your co-conspirators).
I mean it’s truly magical that you “closed down” your “program” for a year [[according to your own launch video Encoded date: UTC 2010-09-26 05:25:52]] and one month before you go live, a “student” [[who finished your coarse more then a year ago..if they even took it]] decided to put up a video that ranks, and you provide absolutely NO verifiable evidence that supports this CONvenient claim.
1 hour and ranked page 1 position 1. That tells me “Terri” ranked (if s/he even made any video) for their own name, or some other non-searched very longtail keyword phrase [[truly fucking magical]]…
@Larry,
Good question. I am not sure about U.S. law involving multi-level marketing.
If you want to take her down, I would check for immigration violations. My guess is she is working and running “operations” without a business visa [[not sure if that can be checked or not]], they are difficult to get [[you need significant investment capital or "specialized knowledge"]]. Her “business category” most likely doesn’t require any permits/licenses, and she is probably operating under the radar and working in the USA to “run” it.
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I’d like to give her rear end a good uplifting hrr, hrr, hrr, letch, letch, letch!!!!
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You you should change the page name title » Maria Andros: She is God {maybe} to something more better for your content you write. I loved the the writing even sononetheless.
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WTF??? The “Video Marketing Queen” is at it again…. pu-leeze…
The queen of run on sentences can barely get a word out without fumbling and bumbling. Karate Suite? Running on the beach? Does anyone actually buy her stupid shit?
I dare put a link to see this stupid ass video… http://www.videoconversionformula.com/launch-1ana
BC
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1. Who the fuck is this fuckin idiot bitch?
2. Which idiots are paying her money?
She sound like a fuckin idiot with a -130 IQ I would pay her to shut her mouth. I listened to her run her mouth for 20seconds and my head is still spinning
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2H2+Co3=-(x*y) Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 1:06 am
@John, well according to Maria , she has thousands of successful fans and clients. Guess we’re all just “jellis” of her movie star, breath taking beauty and her millionaire success.
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Looks like the Syndicate grew a pair of tits
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BigCheese Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
My guess is that the Syndicate got themselves some recurring blowjobs for promoting this stupid bitch.
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This chick reminds me of several floozies I banged while in Community College in 1994.
They thought that they were hot (and physically they were), and that they would be big starts someday. Of course, I encouraged that thinking so they would give it up.
There were literally dozens of them. And now, not one of them is a start. They are all fat, ugly housewives who live in the suburbs and drive caravans.
Point being, Maria, you need to get into reality. Someone told you that you could be a start so they could tear into your ass, and you actually believed. Now, he told another, and he told another, and so on, so they keep the charade going while you get loaded with spooge.
Meanwhile, you have it in your head that one day it will end, one day it will be worth it, and you really be a star. Unfortunately, you’ll be just be an old, wrinkled soccer mom, if you’re lucky. The path you’re on, you’ll probably be getting broomhandled in County before you become a star or a soccer mom!
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422 Reply:
December 8th, 2010 at 10:09 am
@Chris, didn’t I see you at the last Big Seminar sneaking out of Maria Andros’ hotel room at 3:42 am?
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You have a great site here. Very unusual that stands out from the rest. Keep up the awesome work.
Ged
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Chris!
She ain’t EVEN physically hot! She’s a butter face (that means, bodies ok … But her FACE! Yikes!) She’s like a 4 out of 10. I know 9′s and 10′s with half the attitude of this _________. My Gawd she is like the most soul-less shallow self serving superficial shit I have ever seen.
When will Mandros (like that phrase someone coined above) go away!??!?!?!?!!??!
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422 Reply:
December 8th, 2010 at 10:24 am
@giant schnauz, Uh..I don’t know about you, but I like my women to have some healthy development, not some lanky, mal-nourished, alien-like body with two mosquito bumps and overgrown arms with an unusually large cranium, and something that resembles an Adam’s apple. (Some David Icke followers suggested she may be a shape-shifting alien after I presented her pictures to them.) And let’s not forget the huge dildo nose. She could team up with Dr. Harlan Kilstein’s finger healing and use her nose to heal the world.
Just stick those fingers into her nose and…BAM Finger-to-Nose healing was born!
(Hey, we can all talk about her looks freely, since she tries to use her appearance as part of her credibility in selling business frauducts. Remember the 3 marriage proposals she said she had after launching her videos? l0lz)
Happy holidays
4 2 2
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_cartman_ Reply:
December 8th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
@422,
WINNER!! ::
+9
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High…my name is _cartman_ and welcome to my comment
Wow…it would appear that the deceptions never stop with Andros….
It appears that “people” [[when one has been manifestering reality, one can create interest]] have been asking Andros [[for over 3 years now]] to host a live event…and like the people on her never ending waiting list they were placed on the back of the imaginary line…and 25 spots to her VCF live event has been offered to total fucking strangers who could give a shit less….
Over 3 years?….wait a minute…the Sept 2009 event [[when she watered the Africans]]…which she claimed took place…which was “canceled” [[for lack of any interest..so it appears the manifestered people have been "asking" to go..but given the opportunity...chose not to [damn ewe universal]…too bad..so sad]] was like 1.5 years ago [[that's like math...I'm a professional...please don't try this at home]]
Andros is trying to sell tickets [[regularly $2497...my ass is $2,497...more math....if we concede [because of blunt force trauma to the head] that a day with Andros is valued at $15K + $5K expenses…and 300 people can [keyword: can] attend…that’s a value of $67 dollars each]]…now only $497 [[that's more then $67...and no...it doesn't even include a set of free ginsu knives...or a gratey...yeah...it blue the deal for me too]] to her live event [[it comes with a money back guarantee]].
https://www.videoconversionformula.com/membersevent-2-2
PS – If anyone from the SOCAL area goes [[enticed by the MBG, and wanting to experience stoopid head on]]…video the event….it should be worth a laugh
PPS – my complex nesting may make no sense…the doctors diagnosed me with Androsblastoma….I’m terminally stoopid….I have only 2 more months to make sense….sigh…prey for me….
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Sam the Shrubbist Reply:
February 5th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
@_cartman_, You forgot to mention the part where the attendees get to “Dance the night away” with the “Andros Angels.” Obviously, she considers that a key selling point, sure to appeal to (cough) women, but she doesn’t mention anything about how or at what point to tip them. Maybe the stacks of money in the background are some kind of subliminal hint.
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422 Reply:
February 6th, 2011 at 8:42 am
@Sam the Shrubbist, @_cartman_
You are all just jellis over sucksessful bidness people making money and living their dreams. You’re just too negative and look for negative things that are really like not important at all. So what if Mandros has never once spoken a sentence that was coherent, much less truthful?? Stop looking for the negative!
At least she pretended to help some poor starving black kids in Africa by donating to a fake charity. That’s definitely going to earn her the “good white person’s” award in heaven with mother mary, god and baby Jesus. So na na na na !
You should be positive and try to create your own online frauducts and the best way to do it is to take Maria’s very cheap $30,000 coaching. It’s so cheap and she’s so wonderful and giving it at such a low price. Ordinarily, she would charge $300,000, but because she’s such a self-sacrificing person, she is going to give it away for practically nothing!
So what if the people are elderly on a pension, dying of cancer, mentally challenged, or homeless on foodstamps? If you’re not willing to scrape together just $30,000 , then you don’t want a better life.
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_cartman_ Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:29 pm
@422,
I’m not jellis….I’m a hater!….
Yeah…that was nice….now she is taking credit for predicting earth quakes [[new Zealand]]…and looking to turn Andros Angels into some other charity scam….
and I quote…
more fraud…no doubt….
and I quote….
and when someone tried to outdo her with psychic nonsense…she went further…
well…she mentioned pretending about being psychic in a module or hotseat “video” from Social Media Traffic Blueprint….but pretending to be psychic for a disaster [[to "prove" a point and try to gain credibility]] is a little fucking sick….where will it end…I would think that attempting to take charity money from thirsty African’s would be good enough….I guess not…
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February 23rd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
@Sam the Shrubbist,
That’s funny….when I first posted this there was NO video…I was kind of wondering what you were talking about, but I just went back there now [[to check something]] and saw the vid you were describing…Fuck…that’s the worst fucking video editing I have ever seen
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Oh and btw, Miss Cleo from the 1980′s psychic line just told me that the 3 marriage proposals to Maria Andros are really true. Two of them are from Nigerians, the same ones that send everyone those million dollar lottery winner emails. She was so “beautiful” that they didn’t even have to see her picture or know anything about her to ask for her hand in marriage. The other one is from a midget with raccoon eyes. How amazing!
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The truth is that all of this secret special marketing sauce can be summed up in less than 1 page.If not a few sentences.
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VCF live event is over…but where were the 300 sock puppets?…
The first picture would indicate a room with ~30 people.
[[interesting considering 25 spots weto were opened to the general public and then stated they were "sold out"...remember that each student was able to have 2 "free" tickets to a total of 300 tickets]].
The angle of the big screen on the left of the room would tend to indicate that no other column of people are to the left of them…..
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SD Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
@_cartman_ ::
“the queen and the boss”
http://twitpic.com/421lkl
most inaccurate photo caption ever
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mandros Reply:
April 24th, 2011 at 12:28 am
Cartman, maybe they meant to write the Drag Queen and the boss ;)
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Interesting statement…”technically” she isn’t lying, since it is an apartment, it would be “listed” for rent [[she must "own" homes though since she has "mortgages"....and lives in an apartment...well you know how things are....hahahaha....I kill me]]….
Maybe charity monies don’t last forever….speaking about “charities”…
http://unstoppablefoundation.org/thefeminineshift.html
it’s a charity…and an “internet marketing/coaching” endeavor [[CONvenient]]….maybe this Cynthia Kersey pays the expenses for the business using donation money [[I wouldn't know, since she doesn't answer emails, and doesn't provide financials as requested or required by law]]….
http://www.unstoppable.net/product_telecoaching.htm
Smells of the same type of setup as Koenigs “Just like my piggy bank foundation” [[run from home, use donations to pay "expenses"...umm yeah]]
It’s pretty impressive..that Andros and Sumpter raised “5K”, considering it was there from day one when she announced it…..Unstoppable supports Just like my Piggy bank foundation [[that's Koenigs&Glyck's piggy bank organization]]….who’d a thunk it…
[[No financials online, emailed them 2wice in four weeks requesting financials, and I heard NOTHING back...yup...definitely the type of "charity" I would expect Andros to pick.....and the owner just happens to be a feminine shifter...of course]].
It’s “funny” the way these new age “philanthropists” choose these Micro “charities” to “donate” money…why give it to an organization that utilizes 100% of the funds, when you can funnel it from one organization where ~30% is used to pay “administrative costs”, and forwarded to a second organization where yet another 30% goes to administrative costs…until it gets to its destination where the rest is “used” for “charity”…
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