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Fanny Spanker said:
Quick question, posting contents of emails has always worried me when I have wanted to do it. Isn’t the email copyright held by each writer? Love to know if it’s not because I have wanted to post contents for a long time…
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SD Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 4:37 am
Fanny :: If publishing an email is a copyright violation :: Then so is forwarding an email.
So knock yourself out :: Publish away :: Especially if it reveals some shenanigans that may prevent future harms.
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Markus Dan Reply:
January 17th, 2011 at 10:19 am
@SD, Thanks, that question bothered me for a while as well (the publishin email one… ;-)
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# 12 October 2009 at 4:26 am

Tom Riddle said:
The creator of an e-mail owns the copyright. However, the key is whether the copyright has been registered. If not, the ability to collect infringement damages is somewhat limited. The more interesting question is whether the chain of e-mail correspondence is a collaborative work. In other words, did Andy and Salty jointly create a single work and hold the copyright together? Make it a $7 report. Now that would be funny.
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SD Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Andy can have the digital distribution rights to any ebooks :: in exchange for giving me the movie rights. We could both be making imaginary millions after just a few imaginary seconds.
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# 12 October 2009 at 7:02 am

Tim said:
Jenkins is a smart d-bag.  Stompernet engine goes broke and he plans big way to leave before fallout and make all fallon falut.  Financial problem at stompernet clear to them for long time so he plans exit then sue clifford to make clifford look at fault for everything when both of them were hands on the wheel.  Jenkins no better than clifford they don’t pay affiliates.  Launch $30 million hype only did like 2-3 million they counted future revenue projections and not really money in the bank so biggest internet launch in history it was not.  AllUSion.
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# 12 October 2009 at 8:28 am

chis said:
When the going gets tough, the tough throw their partner under the bus… or their mother.. or anyone within reach (as long as it deflects attention)
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# 12 October 2009 at 8:36 am

franksgaycousintrey said:
Ha, sounds like the guy at iworks didn’t give lard ass the courtesy of a reach around.  Tim nailed it.  I don’t doubt Jenkins is just as big a douche bag (if not the biggest), and launched his calculated “enough is enough” attack against Fallon in a transparent attempt to rescue his name.
StomperNet shows pretty clearly that the IM market is just a churn ‘em and burn ‘em, chew ‘em up and spit ‘em out industry. 
They prey on rainbow chasers, string them along for as long as they can, and then, when reality clues in and these hapless shmos who are now heavily in debt (as a result of maxing out credit cards “investing” in whatever be-all-end-all money making product they were pitched), and nursing shattered self esteems (“gee…others had no trouble making tons of money with no effort–just look at those testimonials–why couldn’t I?  I must be such a loser!!”), they’re quickly forgotten about by these hucksters.
This is a sick disgusting collection of gutter trash filth. 
StomperNet positioned itself as a company that would create long term relationships with people building successful online businesses.  What they apparently didn’t realize (no…they fucking new this), is that is NOT their market.  Their market is the same as every other dream weaving guru…guys unhappy with their shitty lots in life (“The great mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation”– Thoreau) who are susceptible to the pitch of instant money, instant freedom, instant ability to do whatever you want, whenever you want, instant adoration and respect from family and friends, all with little time and effort.
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# 12 October 2009 at 10:09 am

Karin Hiebert said:
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
 Here is some facts;
1.) First online experience with IM and my trying to make money from home was with the company known as MLMGoldmine. With no “product” or MLM thingy going on- however, like many others online somehow I stumbled across them.
The experience was not a great one, and not a bad one…it taught me what not to do, and I learned that if you call people on their scams and publicly announce that “You Just Fired Your Coach” which essentially is what their business is based on –coaching–
Then the owners {DK} will finally send you an email…not one of apology for the “mentors” incompetence and your time wasted–It will be an email announcing, “Karin, You are in!
You won the Lifetime Scholarship!”… long after the ‘real’ winners were announced…STRANGE- yet TRUE.
2.) If something comes along again that does peak your interest like PCN and a guy that finally appears to be an honest up front dude who wants to “flush all the IM Scumbags down the toilet” you tend to listen, and believe him. He uses the “Master Key System” as the product that accompanies what people are really buying which is YOU!
OK, I of all people get that. In the hairstyling industry, price points for services vary from salon to salon. Why? Because some hairstylists could cut hair with a broken coke bottle and color hair with the cheapest crappiest product going and you will walk away with a great new look, and a positive experience—
3.) so, yes, FOR me–it isn’t about the product—it is about the person behind the product
People buy/pay for you, your expertise, and ongoing education, experience that you have gained, and continue to gain to service them best.
Yes… unbelievably some hairstylists will go to the backroom dispensary – grab the color tube of what their client chose… and slap it on and expect it to have that very result.
It does not work that way.
Therefore, for Me Mr. Val Smyth was speaking my language!
I would use everything in my life and business experience to help those that were attracted to me and this Master Key Course — to not “mentor” people, but to bring together people who all had various skills, assets, or talents…
Interesting concept! Let’s all help each other…we created a skype room for us new members…not only did we attract business partners that really wanted to help one another, we created some great lifelong friendships.
When things got weird for Smyth, (issues with pay pal–issues with his greed) PCN (Smyth) decided to offer and re release an older program called Mentors in Motion and add it to PCN as a “feeder” program at the price of 297.00 rather than the 2k that we ALL paid for—for pretty much the same thing—
Well that all went tits up in no time- people were not buying and major garbage on this company was became public knowledge and this man Smyth as a con man liar scammer—-
 

http://www.weswyatt.com/blog/prosperity-cast-network-and-val-smyth-update
We kept strong as a group, with our team in our “chat” room…and decided that although that company brought us together we would not go down with them.
No… we didn’t create our own product, course or whatever—what we created was a real group of people who were all there for one reason…and that was to support each other in whatever way we could. (That covered business AND personal) The group is still around, in the same “chat room” and although it isn’t as active at the moment- the same great people are all still there- and we can count on each other no matter what for life! (life long relationships)
In Jan. 09- I lucked out again- ok-not luck “I attracted into my life Andy Jenkins, Janeen Jenkins Formula 5 and Stompernet”
Most everyone knows that story, if not it is here on this blog in a comment section somewhere!
I like Formula 5, I have recommended it to a lot of businesses, and to a lot of people online.
never sold anything F5 or Stompernet related just for the fact that personally when I like something I recommend it and don’t give an affiliate link  (wouldn’t know it or have it handy if you asked me!) Even with the PCN thing I had to ask them what it was when people were interested… (They would call me “IGNORANCE on Fire” —in a good way!)
Queen Bee was another nickname –cause like the bee I ain’t suppose to know how to fly…
The point is that it does not matter what you are selling, or doing online or offline that matters- what matters is being real- No you do not need to come out- and tell the world you are a survivor or anything like that- it means caring about people.
It means caring enough to go that extra mile with honesty and integrity. It means not caring about a financial gain ALL THE TIME—and not having a motive behind your caring.
Am I naive? Stupid to think that there isn’t “motive” behind kind gestures or friendships.
Are friendships conditional? Are business dealings conditional? I don’t know…
Is it wrong if one of your friends says, “oh by the way I did hear from ______?” Blank being a mutual friend acquaintance or business partner—-
And you say “yes I already heard!” and the person says “you heard?” What did you hear?
Is it wrong to tell the truth and say, “I know because I read the conversation” (obviously, they wanted me to know in detail)
The other party {Salty} is actually in shock, almost horrified that their personal conversation was shared…
is it wrong then for the person to believe that if _____ blank forwarded the conversation to her…”who else did ______blank share their private conversation with?”
Now, you might be thinking “Wasn’t Salty going to share with you the conversation anyway?”
That answer is an emphatic- NO- this time would be no different than other times- no talk of detailed discussions, no email forwarding or sharing in any way other than to share that “contact was made and it didn’t end up pretty”
Yes, yes… surely people are thinking, “She is always protecting or standing up for the droid!”
No- the thing is that I speak the truth.
The droid does not share in any sort of detail what, or whom he is working on next…the droid doesn’t need me in the picture to give him kudos, or support…
the droid doesn’t need to share anything with myself or anyone—the thing is EVERYONE SHARES shit with the droid!
That being said- I am friends with a lot of people online and offline-from ALL walks of life- and I could not be more grateful for the friendships that have been created.
Our friendships and love is not conditional. It is not one sided. There are NO sides- like our friend Bozo commented about on another post-
Well… I would hope that it is “conditional” On that note go read the post on Cults and Fans-
I can’t stand Kool-AID
LOSER!! ::   -9
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chis Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
huh ???
you lost me…  what is your point?
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Kann Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
@Karin Hiebert,
What in the flaming fuck are you even talking about?
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# 12 October 2009 at 12:52 pm

Jetpack said:
Andy said, “You got a lot of other stuff RIGHT about Brad.”
Ouch! I bet that gets him a phone call.
Hope he’s got his next career all worked out.
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# 12 October 2009 at 2:01 pm

InsideTheIndustry said:
I’ve been in the IM industry for about 8 years now and I’ve made good money selling “how to make money stuff.”
With that said, I’ve also made a ton of friends along the way (the same people I’ve sold things too and made money from) Would I call them “customers?” No I wouldnt. Most come around and see the bigger scams/issues with the industry as a whole. To me, the cynical life of the “guru” in this industry has always made me want to vomit. Yet the masses respect these folk and will drop anything to give them $1000-$2000 for a product or $800 a month.
You can have a skill in something and sell “how to make money online” stuff legitimately without taking peoples shirts.
These bigger guys have found a way to not just take shirts but take every last dime in the bank account.
Who can resist the powerful copy, testimonial videos, case studies etc? Even from someone who knows better I still sometimes get sucked into the hype.
However, there are the folks directly inside Internet Marketing that can respect and praise what The Salty Droid is doing here. I know I do.
So how can I be inside the industry and enjoy what I see here at the same time?
For one, I actually do care about helping people. I don’t just see dollar signs with faces attached to them. I’ve made friends and worked with people to find ways to legitimately increase online business. When I see a “Guru” doing a big launch of re-hashed content over and over and over again, you know there is some serious manipulation going on.
That’s what I don’t get!? There is a certain group in this industry who see the lies and crap of the “bigger” names and then there are countless droves of people who worship these folks every turn.
Look at John Reese – Charging $97 for the Reese Report for years. $97 a month times how many hundreds of subscribers. If you ever read the thing, it was garbage. Yet they worship him like a god.
Did anyone see Traffic Secrets 2.0? Cause I’m still looking for the “Secrets”
Look at Filsaime – His people will call you and survey your debt level. YES, they will find out how much you owe and take every last cent they can without making you broke.
Look at Frank Kern – Surfer dude everyone loves. Went from selling crap to thousands in launches for Mass Control. A course based around having a character in this business and selling the story. Look at his products up to a year or two ago. Pretty brutal and nothing more than a junk info-product peddler. Sure he has some good ideas but who doesnt.
Look at Eben Pagen. We now praise him as not just a guy who got lucky building “dating” books ten years ago, but now a “BUSINESS Expert” a genius entrepreneur. Bullshit. He got lucky and was in on the ground floor early. So some skill yes. Can his success be replicated? Ever? Once?? If you buy “get altitude.” Doubtful. Ever.
THen the stomper guys. Look at the 100k a day CPA launch that happened in early 2009 if you want to have some fun. Eben Pagen said in his testimonial he would be getting into CPA that very day. Bullshit. Faking testimonials is something you do for your buds.
I’m sure the FTC would love to review that specific launch and the lies these guys told. And yes, they were blatant lies.
Buddy to Buddy. You scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours.
$800 a month is ludicrous and if you’ve seen any of the Stomper materials as I have, you’ll see what a sham this was. But they pulled it off. GO figure!?! And Kern will continue to sell over and over again the same junk. Reese will continue to think we should be excited about his million dollar day.
As someone that’s inside this industry I can tell you it’s refreshing to see this but there are still bigger fish to fry.
These guys are all bed buddies and worshipped to the highest extent. It’s sickening.
Maybe I need to email salty my confession? Everything I know. Can we save ourselves a similar outlook if we come clean with everything to Salty? Public Confessions?? Plea Bargains? If so, sign me up.
Keep going Salty. Let’s throw some bigger fish in the pan, you’re sparking a revolution!
WINNER!! ::   +11
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# 12 October 2009 at 2:11 pm

FrankKernsBalls said:
blah ha ha.
The fact that he is trying to get you to “Examine” someone else instead of him/stomper is soooooooooo funny
The jig is up for Fallon/Jenkins and all the other boys who were doing a few million a month in subscriber fees. Oh but wait, they already got there money so who gives a shit what gets said now.
Maybe we should buy this for $1.00
https://infomillionaire2.com/order.php
I further understand that I will be billed $97.00 per month for continuing access to Info Marketing Monthly if I do not cancel within the 30 day trial period.’
Of fuck me.
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franksgaycousintrey Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Feeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuck, so THAT’S where the “Screw Google” system came from.  I watched this amusing little product a while back (no…it’s 2009 so I sure as sweet fuck didn’t pay for the thing–anyone who doesn’t know how to get every single product released in this day and age is sadly ignorant).
On the surface, it seemed to address an angle I thouught would make an interesting product–”Lets see these gurus actually walk the walk.  Lets see them not only teach how to do it, but actually have them do it live…walking through an actual real life example of how to do it.”
For anyone who hasn’t seen this product, that’s what it is–Frank and his gay cousin Trey starting off by outlining the system, and then actually “doing it.”
The thing that makes it ultra-comical is the result.  They close out the product without making even one single sale.  NOT ONE!!!  But, that doesn’t stop them from wrapping up by saying, “and that’s how to make money blah blah blah.”
CLASSIC!!!  I guess there’s a good reason why no one has put out a “walk the walk…watch me as I do it in the real world” product.
Of course, the sick thing…in keeping with the sad state of the IM market, there complete failure to make any money using the “this how to easily make money” product didn’t stop them from still offerning the “screw google” product as a great must have product.
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# 12 October 2009 at 2:25 pm

Shameless said:
Thats about as good as any one of these jerks can come up with, divert the attention to someone who prolly screwed them over or they are jealous of because it makes them feel like they are getting some justice or something rather than facing the freakin music.
People who charge a fortune for courses and seminars and workshops and whatever other freakin name they can come up with for a wishful gathering of wannabes who are dumb enough to pay anything for hope, are nothing but D-bag evils in my view.  They prey on people to make themselves rich and some even boast about it.  The ones who boast about it turn to God because they are as guilty as hell about what they have done but have become obsessed and need to feed their habits.
Thanks Salty for your work exposing these people.
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# 12 October 2009 at 2:49 pm

Dale said:
Look how quick Andy starts RATTING OUT another internet marketer to distract attention from himself. Wow!
And he says Salty has a lot RIGHT about Brad Fallon. Wow again!
Internet marketers sure look out for themselves, don’t they?
I bet a lot of the so-called “gurus” will be having panic attacks today and in the days to come (’cause many if not most will eventually be on this site in detail).
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# 12 October 2009 at 3:18 pm

Karin Hiebert said:
P.S. The ending of my comment was to say that I hoped friendships were not conditional- sorry was typing fast—
this whole James Ray thing is sickening and a good example of what people will pay to “improve themselves” no fault of the people wanting to do anything to become better balanced, and to live in Harmony- and Bliss—
It is wrong when Greed starts killing people never mind breaking their bank accounts—
Do this with your cashola to find balance and harmony… go to Jamaica!
;-)
Its hot, has feel good music and comes with a “natural” high…
 
just sayin’
 
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# 12 October 2009 at 4:20 pm

franksgaycousintrey said:
Hey, insidetheindustry made some good points.
How ’bout it Salty?  What’s the deal with you giving a free pass to some of the biggest names in the market–Filsaime, Reese, Kern?  Kern is okay, but there is plenty of talk about Reese and Filsaime being grade A assholes. 
Far be it for me to say it, but what’s the deal, Salty?  Are you a hypocrite?  Giving a free pass to your buddies, and only going after people you don’t like? 
Care to respond, because it’s an interesting question…what do you think of some of the big names?  Including that asshole Reese actually selling a thousand dollar product teaching absolutely newbies how to set up shop and make thousands of dollars a month selling “how to make money on the internet” (his infamous IMA product)?
It ain’t hip to be a hypocrite (not that I’ll call you one–I’m just saying…)
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Tom Riddle Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
How about going after Big Boy Bootcamp Matt Bacak? You’ve got the picture of Bacak and Belcher sharing a bathtub together. How about the ethics they share, including Bacak’s hidden continuity program earlier this year?
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Slappy Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Don’t assume Salty doesn’t have a much bigger list. He’s most likely exposing the peripheral guys on the way to the big cheeses. Watch and see. I’m sure there will be some surprises here… Salty clearly has people “on the inside” that are keeping him well informed with what’s happening behind closed doors. The scammy gurus won’t be getting a free pass, I can bet you that. It’s just a matter of time…
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SD Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Nobody is getting a free pass GayTrey :: I assure you. I have zero “buddies” in the biz … and loath the individuals you mention. But I’m careful … and there is a grand{ish} strategy playing out behind the scenes. Stay tuned … all of your fondest schadenfreude dreams will soon be realized.
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# 12 October 2009 at 5:32 pm

AnotherIMinsider said:
Hi Salty and fellow scam bashers!
I’ve supported you via Twitter since you first appeared. As an internet marketer myself I feel there are many people doing it right in this industry but people like Belcher, Andros, Kilstein, and AlohaArleen make everyone look like a fraud.
I know many of your readers are against everything I.M., and though I don’t agree with them,  I will continue to support you and I appreciate all you have done to kick up the dust about all these assholes.
 
P.S.
Due to my connections I am also privy to things BIGGER than you have covered so far and will consider sharing those things in the future.  Once again, THANKS. All of us ethical marketers LOVE YOU.
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# 12 October 2009 at 6:55 pm

Harlot Shitstain said:
How about all you beggin’ bitches shut up and stop trying to take the heat off yourselves. You bitches are fake as they get trying to rat out your colleagues and fellow marketers who have helped your asses when McDonald’s wouldn’t even hire you.
Leave Salty Droid alone. If you want someone else to be on this page so damn bad then go hire a private detective and dig up the  juiciest dirt you can and then just email him with it, but stop sitting back and twilling your thumbs and telling other people what to do on their own page. Hell if you think these BIG boys are so damn bad start your own pages and start posting about them…oh I forgot you’re hypocritical, internet marketing scamming cowards. Get real.
Seriously, if you want John Reese or Filsaime, dig up some stuff on them. Court records, criminal records, get some dirt and come back and post it. I for one will go through it and also dig and try to find stuff. One person can’t do it all alone, so add some input and stop bitching cause you’re afraid that YOU are going to be caught NEXT on here.
And to the person who wanted to confess to publicly…. as long as you havent molested kids or sexually abused anyone, and as long as you haven’t abused animals or elderly sick people, then you stand a good chance of forgiveness, at least from me. And that’s saying a lot, because I have a very LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG memory and those who have crossed me , I wait till they think I am long gone and forgotten and then BAM I get them in the worst way. Harlot Shitstain is one of those people who I will haunt for the rest of HIS pathetic life. The IRS is already concerned on whether or not Harlot Shitstain is paying all of its taxes. They may have to put a lien on his house or freeze his bank accounts.
Harlan Kilstein may scare a lot of people, but he is a weak coward.
So confess up … bring it!
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# 12 October 2009 at 7:01 pm

SD (author) said:
Dear HighLevel Insiders,
If you have just recently found The Salty Droid :: and after reading a few posts you found yourself asking this question :: “Wow! I wonder if he knows?”
Then to you I say :: Yeah … I know.
Help me get all the facts straight :: saltydroid@gmail.com
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# 12 October 2009 at 7:13 pm

chis said:
This is either the saddest thing I ever read.. or a pathetic marketing ploy that will have “miraculous” results, once 100 days have pasted
http://onlinesuccessin100days.com/
this poor, deluded, fellow describes himself as follows…
“I’m a 23-year-old guy who lives at home with mommy and daddy and have more credit card debt than is reasonable for my age. I have two part time jobs, waiting tables at a restaurant and doing data entry from my house.”
believes he will achieve success in 100 days, because he laid down all his money, betting on the trifecta of  Perry Belcher, StomperNet, and Eben Pagan…
we know one of his horses didn’t come in.. it looks like another won’t make it to the finish line… and the third is just plain lame
This is just one poor sap, with moeny in hand, in a line of thousands stepping up to the D-bag betting cage..
he’d be more likely to make a buck betting on real horses
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Nottingham Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
And the soul-less “gurus” all look the other way…
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franksgaycousintrey Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Uhg!! 
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SD Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
The Trifecta of sadness.
On the up side … he just got a link from here {and I left a comment that won’t be published … natch!} … so he’ll always have that to look back on.
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chis Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
I left him a comment, and a couple of links to SD as well… maybe the light bulb will turn on..
I hate to see so much enthusiasm wasted on d-bags that will give him nothing in return for his money and trust
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SD Reply:
October 12th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
@EbenPagn Congrats on being #1 on the @StomperNet leader board. One day maybe I’ll be up there with you…
@EbenPagn Congrats on being #1 on the @StomperNet leader board. One day maybe I’ll be up there with you…
— Marketer Matt (@MarketerMatt) October 7, 2009
… one can always dream
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# 12 October 2009 at 7:43 pm

Billy said:
Karin Hiebert your link about koolaid and cults did not show up . please repost. spanx
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# 12 October 2009 at 11:28 pm

Jaque Tripper said:
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2.) The FTC against may infomercial marketers
Now this one hits closer to home. (Not my home though.) The FTC recently filed a case against several infomercial marketers. John Beck, John Alexander, Jeff Paul and several others. You can read the complaint on the FTC websites Click Here To Read It.
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# 12 October 2009 at 11:45 pm

Lambballs said:
If you have to ask a question like this
 
Would you refund a person who was never in your coaching program because he didn’t make money in your coaching program?
— drkilstein (@drkilstein) October 13, 2009

 
You deserve to be on this site.
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Tom Riddle Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Lambballs,
Few in Harlan’s coaching ever made money from the experience. He took the fees and didn’t deliver.  Advice was contradictory at best. Could be that he was trying to destroy potential competition by taking their money and teaching them how to not be successful as copywriters. Probably thought that someone paying monthly for coaching deserved to be cheated out of the funds.
If Harlan’s coaching students all started posting their experiences of dealing with him here, it would make for good reading. Of course, he’s a vindictive SOB so doubt that will ever happen.
He is a Class AAA Schmuck. Not quite Major League despite best efforts to get there.
Tom
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 13th, 2009 at 10:25 am
My guess is someone paid (possibly cash), and now wants their money back (and Harlan doesn’t want to give it back). He appears to be documenting this “lie”, because Harlan doesn’t plan on giving it back. This is an antiquated tictac. The only thing I am unclear on, is if he is documenting this lie for a “possible” small claims action against him, or if he is worried someone will come and start complaining (and he is doing damage control). In either case he can use his past tweet, as “proof”.
Mike Filsaime uses the “time” TicTac (according to complaints). I have read warrior forum posts , where people call the number and/or open a ticket to get the automatic billing stopped. There is no acknowledgement. Tickets go unanswered, messages go unreturned, people keep getting billed, and some have had to resort to cancelling their cards in order to stop the billing.
Speaking about Mike Fleeceme did anyone watch that pathetic Tony Robbins crap? It explains (true or not) why Robbins is dealing with these goofballs. Supposedly TV infomercials aren’t like they were in the ’90s and are crap now…so Robbins wanted to go via the internet.
Just a side note. Perry Belcher is supposedly one of the individuals being intervieved (in San Diego..for the power falkers series) someone wondered why he was going to California, that could be it…anyways…that’s that. 
http://www.mikefilsaime.com/thanks-tony-robbins-part-2/
PS- Just one more thing…..to those running firefox….it appears that when one attempts to do a reply to someone (like this one), Firefox doesn’t allow anything to be written in the comment box. If you want to do a reply, you have to use IE. Has anyone found a work around?
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# 13 October 2009 at 7:37 am

TinaL said:
I absolutely agree with you! 100%!
Once Harlan has all the money he can extract from you, you are useless to him.
And all of Harlan’s successful students became successful after they found other coaches.
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# 13 October 2009 at 12:31 pm

Regulah said:
Just a suggestion: but everyone should make an effort to post comments under the appropriate subject threads. After all, what readers are gonna think to look under a stompernet post to find comments about Kilstein? I’ve seen some GREAT comments that have gotten buried under the wrong subjects. Remember, new comments are highlighted on the right, so people aren’t going to miss them if you post to any of the older threads. It just brings them right back to the top.
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# 13 October 2009 at 1:07 pm

Looksie looksie said:
Since there is no Mike Filsaime topic to post under, I will have to do it here.
 
that Mike Fleeceme  is one ugly ass troll, those bags under his eyes must be a birthmark because I know the man doesn’t work for a living. I guess scamming takes its toll with ugly balding primates like Mike. You got some nerve to tell people Tony Robbins can’t take you anywhere you ignorant, self-absorbed piece of maggot shit. Tony would STOMP your midget monkey ass in 0.3 seconds.
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# 13 October 2009 at 1:32 pm

Mike_Filsaime said:
Comments are messed up on this site? Not sure why? Sometime with FF. Need to fix it Salty.
Filsaime is a major fleecer. We need topics started on these fleecers ASAP.
Did you know Filsaime’s people will actually CALL YOU to find out what kind of debt you have. Seriously, and with this they figure out how much they can take from you in total.
What a scumbag.
Make sure to share this information on his really “catchy” domain name marketingdotcom.com
The brilliance in that domain name baffles me every time. What a genius.
 
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# 13 October 2009 at 1:39 pm

SD (author) said:
I know there are problems with the comments peeps :: I’m working on it.  Intense Debate left a turd storm in its wake.
I also know that we need new threads on a bunch of other Lead Turkeys … I hear ya … and I shall comply.
But this is a one woman show :: and I’m doing my bestest :: So quit breaking my balls.
PS I love you guys.
PPS Dear Marketers :: PS’s are exclusively for hand written notes drafted by eight year old girls in pigtails.  If you have a beer gut from drinking warm Natty Ice with your BFF {late night TV} … try to avoid the PS … it’s unbecoming.
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# 13 October 2009 at 2:37 pm

Headline Newss said:

The U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Thursday said a multinational effort to scour the Web for illegal get-rich-quick schemes identified more than 1,600 sites suspected of trying to lure people into participating in bogus business propositions.
The FTC’s “GetRichQuick.Con” project involved 150 organizations in 28 countries, including state attorneys general, affiliate offices of the Better Business Bureau and international consumer protection agencies, said Jodie Bernstein, director of the Bureau of Consumer Protection at the FTC.
Bernstein described “GetRichQuick.Con” as the largest-ever international law enforcement project to fight fraud on the Internet. Fraud-fighting investigators based in North America, Mexico, Brazil, Peru, Chile, Uruguay, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong and most northern and central European countries used a secure Web site built by the FTC to support their searches during a 12-day period that ended earlier this month, Bernstein said.
Examples of the types of sites that were found were those offering people money for surfing the Internet, those promising millions of dollars through pyramid schemes, and sites that used chain letters to draw people into fraudulent offshore investment clubs, officials said.
The FTC will now send warning e-mail messages to the 1,600 sites that were identified, and Bernstein said the FTC and the other law enforcement agencies involved intend to prosecute any site that continues to make fraudulent or deceptive claims.
“We will follow up and, in all likelihood, we will bring on law enforcement action against them with our partners in about June or July,” Bernstein said.
However, the FTC anticipates that many of the sites will shut down voluntarily after they receive the FTC notification. Following previous organized sweeps of the Web for other types of fraud, up to 70% of the sites identified shut down or removed the fraudulent claims before any action was taken against them, said Paul Luehr, a lawyer with the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection.
Some of the suspected sites are run by people who don’t know they are doing something illegal, and just by “firing a shot across their bows it gives them a chance to clean their act up and we don’t have to make a federal case out of it,” Luehr said.
The hundreds of investigators who participated in the probe were given the names of at least two search engines to use as well as specific keywords to help them determine whether a site involved fraudulent activity, Luehr said. The investigators looked for claims like “make $1 million working from home” and “make $20,000 month” as clues that the Web sites might be involved in illegal activity.
Investigators gathered as much information about suspicious sites and their operators as they could by clicking through the sites and by examining information submitted to registrars. They looked for details about where the sites’ servers were physically located and submitted that data over the Internet to an FTC database.
“In phase two of this project we will be analyzing the data and handing these sites out to law enforcement partners for future possible law enforcement actions,” Luehr said.
Previous FTC actions to root out suspected illegal activity on the Web have resulted in successful prosecutions, Luehr added. Since 1994 the FTC has brought 119 cases against 339 defendants accused of involvement in fraud and deception on the Internet.
Among the international participants who assisted the FTC in the get-rich-quick project was the International Marketing Supervision Network (IMSN). Trine Corneliussen, deputy director general of Norway’s Office of the Consumer Ombudsman, said one of the goals of such Web sweep projects is to build confidence in the Internet.
“Through actions like FTC’s get-rich-quick surf, we are able to demonstrate to online businesses that we are collectively watching the global marketplace and working together internationally to combat scams,” Corneliussen said. “It also makes us able to ensure that cases are forwarded to agencies with the authority to actually pursue them.”
Luehr at the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection admitted the international scope of the sweep could have been even broader by including more Asian countries, and by including Africa and Russia. But because the Internet hasn’t penetrated those regions to the extent it has elsewhere, law enforcement agencies were reluctant to commit resources to the project when the FTC contacted them. The FTC would like to see future sweeps broadened to include even more countries, he added.
 

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# 13 October 2009 at 7:04 pm

Headline Newss said:
http://www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Internet_Fraud.shtml
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# 13 October 2009 at 7:05 pm

Complaints said:
If anyone feels they have been ripped off by any internet marketer, here are two web sites where you can easily file a complaint online in just a few minutes:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
https://complaint.ic3.gov/ctf.aspx
And of course, you can also file a complaint on the BBB web site in addition to these.
By filing complaints, you are helping others avoid being ripped off.
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# 13 October 2009 at 7:17 pm

anonymouse said:
Curious – why do people refuse to sign documents like directors guarantee statements, run everything through unit trusts attached to another unit trust attached to a family trusts, make all the promises in the world face to face or over the phone but never never never put them on paper and avoid putting a signature on anything, lie face to face about what they have done what they can do and when they can do it by, have affairs with everyone they fancy and hide it from their partners, remove documents that they think might incriminate them and pretend they have no clue where they went or why they are missing, pretend they have excellent personal relationships with everyone who is anyone when in fact anyone and everyone don’t even know who they are or would be embarassed to be associated in any way, expose their family and friends to being hated and hurt, copy other peoples work and go to great lengths to copyright everything in their own name, try to rat out everyones good idea and take it for their own thinking that everyone is so stupid it will be too late when they actually get it, claim god loves them and they love god, sell courses for tens of thousands of dollars thinking that nobody will question their ability or want justification, agree to court terms to avoid justice not realising that the whole world knows what they are doing, make promises to pay when in fact they have no intentions of ever paying anyone if they can get away with it, run ponzi type schemes just to make it look like they have a clue what they are doing, have luxury cars and rent expensive homes for appearances, charm people who they want to steal business from and then preach god and how good they are afterwards and basically just sell crap for money.  Really why, why, why?  What purpose, what good, what benefit and what end result are they looking for? Its all so completely deluded.  Oh thats right GREED!
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# 14 October 2009 at 2:59 am

chis said:
Holy shit!
You are a  marketeer with balls!
To put a sales letter here… using such “trustworthy” phrases like…
“revolutionary Web 3.0 business”  (what the hell is web 3.0?)
“DOESN’T require you to market at all ” (all caps.. nice touch)
“My Recession Proof Plan”
and my favorite “auto-pilot” 
NOBODY ever used that one before…  how in the world did you com up with “auto-pilot”? You are like the Hemingway of sale copy…
sign me up.. I’m convinced.. there is no way in hell I could lose…
it IS Web 3.0 after all (Oh.. I forgot.. what is web 3.0?)
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SD Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I deleted that shit before you finished. He had some balls posting that garbage here …
Free Speech :: Hell Yes.
Selling shit :: Go fuck yourself.
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Grant Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 6:51 am
What did I miss Salty?
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chis Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 7:21 am
a d-bag that was gonna make us all wealthy, posted a sales letter..
basically saying .. yeah all those IM guys you talk about are crooks.. it’s a crying shame they are allowed to live.. but I, on the other hand, have the secret to success! and can put your wealth on autopilot… blah.. blah…blah…
Gee whiz… the d-bag was sooo sincere.. how could it be a scam??
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_cartman_ Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 10:41 am
hahaha….I’m curious now about the geo location of the offender…I wonder if it is one of the “friends” of this board.
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# 20 October 2009 at 9:26 pm

looksie looksie said:
did anyone catch the name of that incestious marketer? These internet marketers are like maggots, dropping their eggs anywhere, even in their own shit. They have no sense of integrity.
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# 21 October 2009 at 9:24 am

J said:
@SD
Since all of these people appear to be scammers, who/what can we trust as a solid information source for starting an online business including, copywriting, list building, traffic generation, etc…?
Thanks for responding, because it is people like me who need the help.
J
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# 21 October 2009 at 11:24 pm

John said:
Once again the Salty Droid sounding like the complete f*cking idiot that you are. Everything in this world to the Salty Droid is a SCAM. Amazing!
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Bill Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Poor “John.” You are so obsessed with Salty Droid. You must be a scammer. Afraid you’ll be exposed. Don’t worry, you’ll be busted here one day yourself. Can’t wait to see it.
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chis Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
is “John” a code name  for Andy?
J,  I don’t have all the answers, and without knowing what you’re doing/interested in doing, it’s difficult to recommend anything.. but if you see words and phrases like “autopilot” , “revolutionary”, “while in my sleep”, “in just 30 days” …stay away…
hardly anyone hit a home run first time up, and anybody that says you don’t have to work to make money is a scammer.. I make my living on the Internet (no, I don’t sell info products)  The Internet is not a money tree, you have to treat it as a business, you have to work at, just the same as if you opened a physical store… and everyone I know that is successful, works at it… as a matter of fact some people have called me a workaholic.. I just like working on my business
If you looking for a quick buck.. just get a job.. in 2 weeks you’ll get a paycheck.. if you like internet business, be prepared to make some mistakes, and not make anything while for a while… 
If I know what your up to maybe I can point you to some help of books that won’t cost you your “first born”
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# 23 October 2009 at 2:08 pm

Josh Boxer said:
Boy.  People do put some real thought in supporting “The Droids” site. You little fan club.  Congrats.

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Nippy Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Look, it’s parachute pants. We know, we know, it’s easier to take a dump in pants like that without anyone noticing your mountainous pile. Spare us the details, parachute pants.
How’s bizness? Not good? Sorry to hear that. Ok, not really. But yeah, before long, the Droid will have a bigger “optin” list than all you goobers put together. Except he won’t send out “launch” emails, it will be “delaunch” emails to alert people to you guys and what you do in the wee hours. Congrats!
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SD Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm
He’s just mad because we told him to stop wasting his money 7 months ago :: He disobeyed :: and now he’s even further in debt.
Being satan’s whore is rough work.
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# 23 October 2009 at 7:29 pm

Josh Boxer Shorts said:
guess some of us have less of a problem selling ourselves out and prostituting your integrity. niiiice and good luck with that Josh Boxer. 4rom your site it is cl33r that you are really rich and living the dream with that fake vacation beach picture in the background  with your mere thigh being larger than the entire surfer and those salvation army clothes.
looks like you graduated the Video Marketing Queen university of lying maggot marketers. congratz! your video is a reflection of your overall skills.
what’s with this Ohana cultish thing? I’ve seen it on several people’s sites. Care to explain?
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# 24 October 2009 at 2:26 pm

Josh Fan said:
Looks like poor Josh is jealous of Salty’s Alexa rating of 54,500. For all of his INCREDIBLE MARKETING EXPERTISE Josh’s rating is a miserable, pathetic 665,600. I know people blogging about their fucking CATS who have Alexa ratings higher than that. Hard to make money when no one visits your site, huh, Josh? So you think maybe a comment spam on a POPULAR site might drive traffic?
Problem is, most people who read Salty’s site are smart enough to stay away, except for a pity click to see if anything’s changed in the past few months. Typical ploy from a web MORON who STILL sees nothing wrong with whoring out pictures and NAMES of his POOR LITTLE KIDS right there for any predator to see. Any real parent would care more about their children’s welfare and not put them up, but hey, anything for a sale!
Why don’t you try some sort of balloon-boy hoax? THAT would probably send traffic your way, too, idiot.
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# 24 October 2009 at 4:03 pm

looksie looksie said:
lol Josh Boxer are you going to take that?
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# 25 October 2009 at 1:23 am

Kyle said:
Just wondering but is STOMPERNOT even still in business? Is anybody actually paying to be a member of that thing??? I haven’t noticed a single “guru” mention it AT ALL lately. Maybe it’s history???
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# 30 October 2009 at 9:59 pm

fanboy said:
You rock!
 
I love your no-nonsense, F-U dbag style, long live the Droid!
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# 5 November 2009 at 8:20 pm

Rocco said:
Brad Fallon is a real scumbag….if you get into business with him you’re going to get hurt….its that simple…I lost an entire company to Fallon’s deception…here’s my story….In early 2009 I agreed to merge 1weddingsource.com a wedding website that I co-founded in 2003 to Fallon’s control.   Why did I do it?  Revenue for the site had fallen to around $30k per month and needed a new direction,  a capital injection and traffic.  A Seattle based business broker sourced Fallon and two investors.  The investors agreed to buy into 1Weddingsource.com (low six figures investment–minority stake) with Fallon on board as chairman.  I agreed to do the deal under shitty contract terms making me an employee in the newly restructured company, a classification I objected to, but one in which Fallon snake charmed me into accepting.  Big mistake.  Within a few short months I am terminated after Brad lets the site administrator burn through the entire seed round of fresh capital over $200,000, lets revenue fall to near zero and then proceeds to crowd me out of the company to keep what little is still coming in for himself.  Fallon also reverses two debt settlement payments where I was guarantor on over $90k in debt.  I am now suing Fallon.
 
 
 
 
 
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SD Reply:
November 20th, 2009 at 1:02 am
Wow! We should talk about that … I’m sure that’s exactly what Brad wouldn’t want.
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barefoot_carrie Reply:
November 20th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Wow!  Looks like somebody needs to update his “specs” on this site! 
Out for the evening…more to follow later…
Just keep this thought in mind – Rocco or anybody –  before you start sending personal info to an anonymous person on the internet.
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Dave Reply:
November 20th, 2009 at 1:31 am
Wow, what happened to you is incredibly bogus! I really feel for you. I hope you prevail, and then some. You should email salty (saltydroid@gmail.com) like many of us have. And don’t give up the fight. Others need to hear about this stuff.
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# 19 November 2009 at 8:05 pm

Rocco said:
Im new here but Brad Fallon is trouble….I am suing Brad Fallon….I will post more on this story later…
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# 19 November 2009 at 8:53 pm

Dave said:
Well, well, looks like Mr. Joshua Boxer has managed to get all of his positive image bumped out of one of the top 40 slots on Google by his appearance here on the SD site.  Unless he is following the “any press is good press” doctrine, he should probably keep his head down and his pie-hole shut.
 
I will say, he is one prolific scammer, er, writer.  I am trying, however, to understand what Maui has to do with Atlanta Georgia…
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# 20 November 2009 at 7:23 am

Dave said:
Er, sorry, that’s a little incoherent…  What I meant to say is one of his positive links got bumped.  Hmmm, is this an unintended lesson in SEO?
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# 20 November 2009 at 7:25 am

Josh Fan said:
From what we can gather, our favorite little hate-spewing fashionista link spammer grew up in Maui, and now pretends sleeping on his parent’s couch is some sort of big-spender lifestyle.
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# 20 November 2009 at 8:30 am

Josh Fan said:
Oh, and since Josh Boxer at least will read this and think “ME?!? I’M the hater?!?” let’s point out that Salty is basically a nice guy pretending to be an asshole to make a point. Josh Boxer is an asshole pretending to be a nice person so he can part people from their money. It might not seem so to pea-brained little turnips, but there’s a profound difference.
Google is our friend, Josh Boxer. And Google will continue to be the friend of all Josh Boxer’s potential clients who decide to search for the name “Josh Boxer” to see if they want to invest in such a hot-headed maroon like Josh Boxer. Who can forget Josh Boxer’s FIRST appearance comment-spamming the Droid? Why, I remember it like it was yesterday, with Josh Boxer coming to the defense of the swill he’s been desperately trying to market….
http://www.saltydroid.info/carbon-copy-crap/
Hoo yeah, EVERYONE’s gonna want to get on board the oh-so-professional Josh Boxer Wanna-Be Express when they see how well he handles his critics. Professionals behave ONE way, no matter what they’re faced with. Foul-mouthed little turds like Josh Boxer, when faced with taunts, behave like a six year old. Makes you just WANT to hand over your money, huh?
The internet has a longer memory than YOU ever will Josh Boxer. Your incompetent, unprofessional, desperation-stinking behavior is there for all to see, forever.
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# 20 November 2009 at 9:11 am

Bjorn said:
Josh Boxer’s google profile says he lives in Cumming, Georgia. That seems appropriate to the image he’s trying to project. And it might explain the parachute pants.
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# 20 November 2009 at 1:38 pm

jamba said:
The Brad Fallon web is exposed!  As you begin to understand just how many business partnerships Fallon has going, the more you understand that Stompernet is just an experiment for Fallon.  Check out these links!
http://www.seoresearch.com/executive-team

http://www.internetmarketingcommerce.com/brad-fallon-internet-marketing.aspx
 
http://badwarebusters.org/main/itemview/2677

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# 22 November 2009 at 11:31 am

jamba said:
Another great link bashing Stompernet….
 
http://www.rexfreiberger.com/2009/04/11/lsi-and-co-occurrence-does-work-debunking-stompernets-ploy/
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Nick Nack Reply:
November 22nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Yes – great link and very interesting article. Thanks, Jamba.
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# 22 November 2009 at 2:07 pm

jamba said:
Oh boy…somebody is POD at Brad Fallon!  Guy is kinda cute too!
 
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeM1kZlgod8
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Ken Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:51 am
More power to this guy!
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# 23 November 2009 at 10:37 pm

BozoDClown said:
right on!!!
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# 24 November 2009 at 12:39 am

lol said:
the shit is gonna hit the ceiling
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# 24 November 2009 at 11:25 am

ikes! said:
uh oh they’re starting to show their faces…. guess it’s true about the experiments….takes only ONE dissenter to make others come on out …..ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww what the hell is that smell??????? oh wait…look over there! Is THAT Harlan Kilstein shitting in his pants??  better go do some finger healing ;)
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# 24 November 2009 at 11:34 am

Bozo D Clown said:
said removed :*
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# 24 November 2009 at 9:35 pm

pokie6 said:
its back!  this kid is on a tear!
 

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# 24 November 2009 at 10:02 pm

_cartman_ said:
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oNGKO8EawM
ERRR…again part 2
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Carl Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
With all the negative stuff I’ve read about Brad Fallon, and after hearing this guy’s story, I am totally disgusted. I totally believe everything this guy is saying, and I hope he wins.
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# 24 November 2009 at 11:07 pm

Ellis Saul Hating LLP said:
Wonder what it costs to sue a licensed motherfucker like Fallon?
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# 25 November 2009 at 5:05 am

Ellis Saul Hating LLP said:
Contact us Brad, maybe we can help. It’ll only get worse. You ain’t seen nothing yet!
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SD Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Nonsensical :: explain yourself.
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# 25 November 2009 at 5:25 am

?? said:
Is that guy in the video you , cartman?
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 26th, 2009 at 10:43 am
no, not me…
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# 26 November 2009 at 10:25 am
» Giving It Up said:
[...] to apologize :: and let it not be false flattery and cheese dick attempts to manipulate :: cause me no likey that [...]
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# 14 December 2009 at 7:52 am
» Frank Kern :: Pissy Plotless Plotting said:
[...] to enough “gurus” for Andy to know exactly how to reach me. Andy and I have an email conversation :: and I win.  I could have strung him along and made him say all sorts of terrible stuff about [...]
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# 22 December 2009 at 5:39 am
» StomperNet Shit Storm said:
[...] Emailing with the Enemy –  Andy tries his hand at manipulating The Droid.  He offers to sell out Brad in exchange for my good side :: and he wants me to correct my “mistake” about him “draining funds” to pay for Paul Hastings {best law firm in the whole wide world … as long as a certain adorable girl is still working there … which she is … much to Andy’s evil chagrin} to file the lawsuit against Brad.  Failure :: on all counts. [...]
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# 9 January 2010 at 2:15 am

SD (author) said:
This page is suddenly high ranking for :: {jeremy johnson iworks} :: funny!
Hey Jeremy :: Don’t you think it’s hilarious that Andy Jenkins and Frank Kern tried to sick me on you as a distraction?
Jeremy is currently in Haiti :: http://www.utahhaitirelief.org/blog :: just like Frank and Andy … oh wait.
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# 25 January 2010 at 4:49 pm

Groucho Marx said:
I just want to point out that Brad Fallon’s new poodle-slash 1wedding source co-owner, Jason Hennessey, is a world-class douchebag as well. Check out his self-congratulatory blog at http://www.weddingseoblog.com/
The man cannot stop patting himself on the back; I’m sure he’s privately the object of Brad’s deepest scorn, but together they make a wonderful pair of stealin’ and cheatin’ lovebirds. The combined self-awareness with this team is microscopic. Okay, thanks, I REALLY needed to vent about that.
As for you, Rocco, I’m really sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed that you win and win big.
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PsychoBabble Reply:
January 30th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Jeez. I though you were exaggerating.
If anything, you understated the case. No one could make these guys up if they tried.
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# 30 January 2010 at 3:44 pm

F Scamers said:
Andy Jenkins Latest scam thevideoboss.com
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Wonk Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Yeah, for a price, Andy Jenkins will “teach” you how to use simple software that your children already know how to use. Better yet, make your kids a deal: tell them you’ll take them to Chuck E. Cheese’s if they’ll coach you. You’ll save a lot of money and have some quality family time.
http://www.thevideoboss.com/video-gets-more-money-than-anything
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Bat Fastard Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 4:10 am
Jenkins is selling this for around $1,500. THAT’S why he’s going to teach you how to use cheap or free software. Because after you pay Jenkins that much money, you aren’t going to be able to afford to get anything else!
Anybody who buys this is NUTS. You can get half a dozen really detailed video editing and marketing books all for under $100 and learn WAY more. Sheesh!
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SirScamalot Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Kilstein is pitching this as an affiliate.
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You Gotta Wonder Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
This stuff is really getting absurd and preposterous.
Seriously, what revolutionary, unheard of information are you going to get for $1,500.00 that is going to rock your world and make you wealthy with ease? How much more SOLID INFORMATION do they provide that you can’t already get on the internet or in a good, well-researched book? Pound for pound, it’s almost NEVER worth the prices these guys charge.
We’ve all seen this kind of stuff that once sold for “thousands” now selling for peanuts on ebay just months later. Even at the firesale ebay prices, people are bound to be disappointed.
The telltale giveaway is these guys mostly talk about themselves and what they’ve supposedly done. Lots of “showtime!” There are few if any detailed specifics in the sales pitches for this stuff. It’s all dancing and song. They are selling “the dream.”
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# 3 February 2010 at 10:14 pm

scott gallagher said:
This is silly.
I paid $800 a month for Stomper in 2006-07. I had a marketing firm catering to local businesses. Stomper knowledge, from Andy, after spending damn near $10k for a year, gave me so much knowledge that my agency now has over 200 customers, several employees and an income stream that I no longer work in the company. Anyone that knows me knows what else I’m up to…..
Thanks to Stompernet and Andy Jenkins.
oh yeah….I paid $48,000 for my degree tuition. I made $40k with that knowledge after 4 years of education. I made WAY more with the education received from Andy….spent less dough and less time….
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# 5 February 2010 at 4:13 pm

SD (author) said:
@Scott ::
Could I get a look at your business? Website :: name :: something? I know the kind of stuff Andy “teaches” :: I’d like to see for myself how you are using it to such great effect.
But anyway :: you miss the point. Some things are being taught … some of the info is useful. It’s not about that. It’s about the tactics and lies used to peddle this stuff. It’s about the vulnerable people who are targeted. It’s about the out right fraud in the business practices.
Who really gives a shit if it worked for you? Only you.
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Name Not Important Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Hey Salty
Did a bit of research to help out on the “who is Scott Gallagher” question…
Can’t be certain it’s the same guy, but a Scott Gallagher was happy to be joining Stompernet in May, 2008
http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/want-to-work-1-on-1-with-me-stompernet-coaching-opens-today
If it is the same guy …
(how odd would it be if TWO Scott Gallaghers belonged to Stompernet? Two that own a “marketing firm catering to local businesses”? But one apparently joined in 2006, while the other joined two years later? Wow! What an odd coincidence!)
…then this is Scott Gallagher’s website: http://www.theccsolution.com/
Here’s Scott interviewing Tellman:
http://www.theccsolution.com/blog/2009/12/17/scott-interviews-tellman-about-running-barefoot-across-america/
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# 5 February 2010 at 4:27 pm

SD (author) said:
So Scott Gallagher :: you joined StomperNet in 2008 … but here in your ringing endorsement of BrAndy Jenkins you lie and say you were an original member? WTF? Why use your real name if you are going lie?
200 clients huh? I notice that all your testimonials were filmed on the same day :: in the same place. I looked at some of their sites :: I hope you are charging a VERY SMALL fee for your services … because I see NOTHING interesting or innovative about their sites that they couldn’t have done without the help of an “expert” such as yourself.
Your also lying about not needing to work in the business anymore. Give me a fucking break :: that doesn’t even pass the laugh test.
And what else is it that you are up to? Helping Fake Forrest Gump raise “$100 million” for homeless kids? I notice that in your Class-D video for Tellman you are holding up a hand written poster board with your offers. Is that something you learned from BrAndy for 10k a year? Two offers :: one for $1000 … the other $500 … drum roll please ….. the results …
http://runtellmanrun.com/ccs/
Nothing. No takers. Maybe that’s why you’re not working on the business … because it’s pathetic and NOT FUCKING REAL. Maybe you did learn something from BrAndy after all.
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# 6 February 2010 at 4:58 pm

Powered by Kajabi said:
You should talk a little about Jenkins new launch going on right now.
His Kajabi Platform.
I’m sure you will have a lot to say about that.
PS: I love your site by the way… Awesome job.
Bleep. heheh
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Larry Reply:
October 9th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
@Powered by Kajabi, Already been talked about in the comments of some of the recent posts. Pull up the last few, and do a browser search for “Kajabi.”
Summary:
“Why would anyone with a lick of sense trust their most private business data to someone who is their COMPETITION?”
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# 9 October 2010 at 10:38 pm

SD (author) said:
This post ranks for iWorks and Jeremy Johnson :: so I’m obligated to inform you Internetz people that Jeremy Johnson and iWorks have been sued by the FTC.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/dec/21/ftc-sues/
Other defendants, some alleged to be shell companies, are based in California, Delaware, Nevada, New York, Oklahoma and Utah. They include: Employee Plus Inc., Big Bucks Pro Inc., Blue Net Progress Inc., Blue Streak Processing Inc., Bolt Marketing Inc. and Bottom Dollar Inc.
Also, Bumble Marketing Inc., Business First Inc., Business Loan Success Inc., Cold Bay Media Inc., Costnet Discounts Inc., CS Processing Inc., Cutting Edge Processing Inc., Diamond J Media Inc., EBusiness First Inc., EBusiness Success Inc., eCom Success Inc. and Excess Net Success Inc.
Also, Fiscal Fidelity Inc., Fitness Processing Inc., Funding Search Success Inc., Funding Success Inc., GG Processing Inc., GGL Rewards Inc., Highlight Marketing Inc., Hooper Processing Inc., Internet Business Source Inc., Internet Fitness Inc., Jet Processing Inc., JRB Media Inc., Lifestyles For Fitness Inc., Mist Marketing Inc., Money Harvest Inc., Monroe Processing Inc. and Net Business Success Inc.
Also, Net Commerce Inc., Net Discounts Inc., Net Fit Trends Inc., Optimum Assistance Inc., Power Processing Inc., Premier Performance Inc., Pro Internet Services Inc., Razor Processing Inc., Rebate Deals Inc., Revive Marketing Inc., Simcor Marketing Inc., The Net Success Inc., TranFirst Inc., Tran Voyage Inc., Unlimited Processing Inc., Xcel Processing Inc. and Summit Processing Inc.
Besides Johnson and Fielding, individuals sued were: Andy Johnson, Jeremy Johnson’s brother and alleged owner of some of the defendant companies; Lloyd Johnston, an I Works manager; Scott Leavitt, an I Works manager; Scott Muir, uncle to Jeremy and Andy Johnson and owner of some of the defendant companies; Bryce Payne, an I Works manager; Kevin Pilon, an I Works employee and alleged owner of companies I Works works with; Ryan Riddle, formerly general manager at I Works; and Terrason Spinks; described as a business associate of Jeremy Johnson.
Merry Christmas to All!
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Unicorn Army Reply:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:56 am
@SD, damn that sure is a whole big list o’ shell companies…
I like this bit – they took the whole chargeback intimidation thing up a notch over the pathetic Ragoooza gang:
“They have also attempted to drive down their chargeback rates by threatening to report consumers who seek chargebacks to an Internet consumer blacklist they operate called `BadCustomer.com’ that will `result in member merchants blocking [the consumer] from making future purchases online!’
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# 22 December 2010 at 10:59 pm
» StomperNet :: Still Stinking & Sinking said:
[...] The StomperNet Letters are about Mark Shurtleff and {in vain} sucking up to The Droid. But usually they are about how StomperNet started not paying its bills :: and then never stopped [...]
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