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Me said:
I wonder if Andy couldn’t use some of his money from his past ‘Video Boss’ launch..
Probably has already spent it all up in mushrooms
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
@Me ::
Shrooms are cheap … he spends all the money on shampoos that promise revitalization.
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You Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 12:51 pm
@Me, Well Andy coughed up a lot of money from that launch to pay off Brad for the rest of the SN deal but it did not last long once it got in Brad’s hands. It did help float SN for a while or you may have been reading this story last Fall
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SD Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
@You ::
Funny cause it’s true … I think … probably.
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You Reply:
March 2nd, 2011 at 11:30 am
@SD, Quite probably :-)
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Jack Reply:
March 4th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
@Me, I wondr if maybe mr. Singal helped them out, because this one guy here says he didn’t get his affiliate commissions from Empire Formula – so maybe it could because of some kind of a loan mr. Singal made to a friend maybe?
http://www.warriorforum.com/internet-marketing-product-reviews-ratings/321746-empire-formula-affiliates-you-got-paid.html
“Update: I’ve been in touch with Jimmy Kim at Lurn Inc who is the affiliate manager for Anik for the Empire Formula a dozen times. On Feb 9th he said “i made sure your scheduled on next payout date. That would be next thursday.”
On Feb 17th I emailed Jimmy and asked: “Next Thursday” is today, will I get paid today?
He replied: “yes it is. I’m not in the office today but i’ll find out if you’ve been paid”
Of course I was not paid and 3 more emails the last week has not been answered”
I thnk I understand about how to make big money running my own affiliate program now.
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# 24 February 2011 at 6:20 am

Donk said:
That is really unfortunate. LMAO.
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# 24 February 2011 at 6:32 am

208-577-6210 said:
Taken today from Stompernet.com:
“…become part of an exclusive community of some of the most successful online entrepreneurs on the planet.”
Taken from ‘the desk of Julia Swatek’, two days ago:
“…StomperNet is in trouble…Every month we lose customers and no new ones have come in…we know that is not a good thing…if anyone has any extra time to put into some marketing efforts…”
Success is a bitch, isn’t it?
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
@208-577-6210 ::
mixed messages … and/or fraud messages
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# 24 February 2011 at 6:41 am

Martypants said:
“Every month we lose customers and no new ones have come in.”
Maybe release a new product this year – one that’ll really blow the lid off it. A game-changer.
“StomperNet wouldn’t be StomperNet without all of you.”
Which is the point.
So run little Stompers, run, before the emoticons get you. :-)
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# 24 February 2011 at 8:11 am

Vern said:
Looks like uqast didn’t fly. Hmm wonder why?
These guys are like alcoholics. How about giving up on the charade that Stompernet was this amazing thing, and admit that it was little more than an over the top ego orgy for BrAndy and Friends, and has no place in the online marketing landscape.
How about … Brad … taking the first step to rehabilitating yourself, and “admit” {I know, scary shit} that it was all just a big vainglorious, cocksucking mistake … and you fucked up.
Then, take your preternaturally superior marketing chops, go create some real value in the marketplace, make some HONEST profits, and pay back all the Stompernet affiliates WITH YOUR OWN MONEY!!!
At least then your name would have some vague association with integrity, instead being synonymous with egocentic fuckball the way it is now.
I know, change is hard, but confucious say, the longest journey start with but single step.
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
@Vern ::
There is no healing what ails Brad … he must be run out of town like a witch … never to return.
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Dave Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 1:21 am
Sorry, I couldn’t pass on this one. Do you think Brad floats?
Sir Bedevere: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
Peasant 1: Are there? Oh well, tell us.
Sir Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
Peasant 1: Burn them.
Sir Bedevere: And what do you burn, apart from witches?
Peasant 1: More witches.
Peasant 2: Wood.
Sir Bedevere: Good. Now, why do witches burn?
Peasant 3: …because they’re made of… wood?
Sir Bedevere: Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood?
Peasant 1: Build a bridge out of her.
Sir Bedevere: But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
Peasant 1: Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere: Does wood sink in water?
Peasant 1: No, no, it floats!… It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere: No, no. What else floats in water?
Peasant 1: Bread.
Peasant 2: Apples.
Peasant 3: Very small rocks.
Peasant 1: Cider.
Peasant 2: Gravy.
Peasant 3: Cherries.
Peasant 1: Mud.
Peasant 2: Churches.
Peasant 3: Lead! Lead!
King Arthur: A Duck.
Sir Bedevere: …Exactly. So, logically…
Peasant 1: If she weighed the same as a duck… she’s made of wood.
Sir Bedevere: And therefore…
Peasant 2: …A witch!
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Martypants Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 6:27 am
@Dave, Nih.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
@Martypants, You’re probably going to have to ‘splain that “Nih” response for the benefit of those who don’t get the reference. It appears that someone gave you a negative vote. I gave you a thumbs-up to neutralize it.
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Martypants Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:40 am
@Cosmic Connie, I appreciate the save, CC – and was certainly referring to the scene Sam the Shrubbist(a herring for you, fine sir) provided below – not in any way the quality of Dave’s comment. Any reference to the Grail can expect a ‘nih’ just to keep things honest.
Good thing I didn’t mention an African Swallow – the misunderstandings there could be frightening!
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Sam the Shrubbist Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:18 am
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mojo Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@Sam the Shrubbist,
I am glad to see this clip contains one of my favorite lines in the whole movie–a line peculiarly prescient, as well, considering the subject matter of Salty’s post and the economy in general:
“Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say ‘Ni!’ at will to old ladies! There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.”
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# 24 February 2011 at 8:34 am

Rafael Marquez said:
Wow, see, those guys are just like us. They took “massive action” financed their “business” on credit and their “business” failed too! See, just like you and me. Only they took action on their own recommendations, and followed their dreams all the way to chapter 11.
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
@Rafael Marquez ::
If The Man ever looks at their books … Chapter 11 will be the least of their many “massive action” suckesses.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:04 am
@Rafael Marquez, @SD, Maybe they should have taken “inspired action” instead of, or along with, “massive action.” When you’re truly Awakened and in touch with the Divine, every action you take is inspired. I read that on a blog somewhere so it must be true.
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# 24 February 2011 at 9:24 am

Ed Dale Scam said:
I hope they all fucking die. Right now. Scum. Ed Dale was part of that team as well, weren’t you Ed (I know you are reading this you little turd).
Oh yeah, if you want some fun, go on Twitter and use the hash tag #gopro and ask Ed about his scams. That is the hash tag he is using for his top secret conference this weekend. If you use it you will show up in conversations that Dale is having with his slaves! Fucking losers.
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Juice Reply:
February 27th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
@Ed Dale Scam,
For any newbies reading this blog; ‘Ed Dale Scam’ has a hatred for Ed Dale because Ed Dale is a fat Aussie Toad like creature, who really is a repulsive individual. Like all IM’s he has the car salesman’s chatter with a haunting Aussie Accent. This guy is a real prick!
Avoid at any cost!
For anyone wanting to sell a website / web business I personally bought the Dominiche course from Ed Dale back in 07 as I was selling a portfolio of websites at the time…
At a cost of $2-3K (can’t remember the exact amount) I can confirm it was money wasted. The techniques were over complicated and like all Internet Marketing products, 30 minutes of info stretched over days worth of audio, video, pdf’s and conference call content.
If you are looking to sell an Internet business in the UK you can advertise using a 2 month listing for about £100 on businessesforsale.com. I’ve now sold 5 web businesses on there in the last 3 years for myself and for clients.
BusinessForSale.com is also in the US, Canada, Australia, etc but I have never used the overseas sites – as the businesses I sold were all in the UK – so I cannot comment if it works overseas, but for about $100 its worth a crack.
I think Ed Dale is also somewhat involved with Flippa.com website (he may own it) so avoid that crap too. I’ve tried that recently to test it out and its absolute garbage. You will not get what your site is worth.
BTW I have no association with businessesforsale.com
All the best!
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WTF? Reply:
February 28th, 2011 at 12:51 am
@Juice, Flippa is Sitepoint rebranded http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=620955 You guys make me laugh sometimes…maybe Ed Dale owns eBay too?
I don’t mind the real shit, but making crap up really fucks with your credibility. You will take down more people with the TRUTH than with made up shit.
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Juice Reply:
February 28th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
@WTF?,
Essentially what you’re saying in your unique, articulate and erudite way, is that I can’t express my experience and thoughts. Tough luck God!
Funny how the address of Ed Dale, Sitepoint and Flippa have addresses in Victoria / Melbourne Australia.
I’d hazard a guess that Ed has a financial interest in the sites I mentioned. Maybe we’ll never know, publicly.
Peace!
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Ed Dale Scam Reply:
February 28th, 2011 at 10:08 am
@Juice, Thanks, but that’s not quite why I hate him. He took me and my family for a LOT of money a few years ago. I also hate his affiliates, since they are the ones that clusterfucked me into buying into his scams.
Flippa – Dale IS an investor, he makes no secret of it and brags to his friends (the secret stuff he keeps for just a select few of his drones) that he gets a cut of every sale.
He is also one of the investors behind the latest .co domain name push. But that’s no secret either since you can find that out by researching .co domain names. The .co domain people (or whatever the are supposed to be called) make that info publicly available.
Be careful of Dale. He’s tricky and slippery. But his day is coming.
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Juice Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 6:21 am
@Ed Dale Scam,
Thanks for the clarification on Flippa. Thought as much as he promotes Flippa often in his emails. There is always a financial motive with the “gurus” recommendations.
You don’t have to disclose anything here, but I know Ed Dale sold a bunch of direct response sites back in 05/06 that he told the world about at the time, if that’s you I’d be very interested to know how they worked out.
I’m currently working on a site similar to Flippa but without the usability issues and I have a big interest in buying and selling sites.
All the best with kicking Ed Dale’s ass!
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Ed Dale Scam Reply:
March 7th, 2011 at 7:23 am
@Juice my Ed Dale Scam blog is http://eddalescam.wordpress.com. Come take a look!
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# 24 February 2011 at 9:27 am

_cartman_ said:


Maybe you are aware, maybe you are not, but StomperNet is in trouble. It’s been in turnaround mode for a year and a half and while it was getting better, all the efforts haven’t been enough.
Oh a turnaround and getting better…huh…
Every month we lose customers and no new ones have come in. Since we all run our own businesses, we know that is not a good thing :-)
No new customers are coming in, and every month you lose customers…How exactly is that a fucking turnaround, lie better you fucking turnip [[we're losing money...no new customers...you're not getting paid...here affiliates...enjoy the smiley face...cuz WE are laughing at YOU]]?
We are having a big pow-wow today to figure out how to cut all unnecessary expenses. And to figure out how to get more revenue coming in the door.
hmmm let me see if I got this straight…..
The company has been in crisis for a year and a half…The company has been turning around…and it turned around by NOT cutting UNNECESSARY expenses, by losing existing customers, and by getting no new customers…totally fucking Magickal…
And TODAY [[after 18 months no less]] you are talking about “figuring” [[figuring???...are you fucking kidding me]] out how to cut unnecessary expenses?
And TODAY [[after 18 months]] you are trying to “figure” [[figure???...are you fucking kidding me]] out how to bring in more revenue…
fuck me Rainwoman….can you guys be any fucking more incompetent… intelligence at Stompernet appears to flow like molasses….did everyone there attend the fucking Rainman school of business, or just you and Brad [[that's a retardical question...I know I can expect a stupid fucking answer]].
[[Hey Brad Falafel..you going to let me talk to your woman like that?
While you fucking hide behind her signature on that idiotic letter...be a man fuck nuts...come on by and speak...you fucking mute]]
At 1.5 years into a financial crisis Ju-bra, there should be no unnecessary expenses [[ummm...let me clarify that]]….when you are running a business, there should never be any unnecessary expenses….
If you need the money, please let mw know. If you can wait, please let me know that too.
Why would any affiliate need the money….my guess [[anyone correct me if I am incorrect]]…your business sales consist of cutting edge [[sharp as concrete]] theoretical business constructs that make people boatloads of cash [[I kill me]]…all your affiliates must be rich philanthropic types working for the joy of making others wealthy…
Okay…JuBra’s letter insulted even Arthur Anderson and Jeffrey Skilling [[our cats]]…
I have to go take a music bath…I feel so sullied after reading that BS letter.
PS – I want to make something perfectly clear…I’m not shedding any tears because affiliates are not getting paid [[why you ask?]]…because the affiliates who know enough about the internet and have the ability [[and audacity]] to peddle this crap [[to unsuspecting individuals who may be looking to learn for ways to increase revenue in this economy]] are not victims, butt predators….affiliates know this shit doesn’t work…
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Jack Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
@_cartman_, I want to pardon my language, but sometimes only some “language” can convey the deepseated hatred of the shenaniganers we see here too often…
So what I want to ask is if you meant to use the term “butt predators” at the end of your terrific comment there to mean that they were ass-raping the vulnerable and desperate men & women they chose to victimize?
or was it just Freud slipping about in your comment?
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_cartman_ Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
@Jack,
exactly….a double meaning….I insert and leave the meaning up to interpretation [[did _cartman_ make a mistake and he meant but as in "not this but that", or is he trying to indicate people are being purposely being fucked over....
You picked up on it...that's exactly the meaning I assumed people would think]]….nice to know my subliminal messages are coming through :)
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# 24 February 2011 at 9:48 am

db said:
My favorite part is right after the smiley face, she’s just explained that they’re not getting paid for the time they’ve already put in (but just let her know if you reallyreallyreally need the money…because you’re so valuable :-) she asks if anyone can put in *extra* time for “marketing efforts”. (as long as you’re working for free anyway…)
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# 24 February 2011 at 10:25 am

Mike Young, Esq. said:
All you needed to know about Brad Fallon was identified in the lawsuit between him and Andy Jenkins.
The only StomperNet people I feel sorry for are those who got duped…and yes, that includes some of the moderators, most small affiliates, and Fallon’s ex-wife.
It’s a shame that a lack of ethics destroyed what could have been an otherwise viable business.
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Jack Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
@Mike Young, Esq., And by “lack of ethics” I think you mean “wanton drunkenness”…which in mr. Fall-On-my-ass’ case is an insult to people who must be suffering the true disease of alcoholism.
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MikeYoungShitstain Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
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@Mike Young, Esq.,
Mike Young… you have the NERVE to post here you prick.
You’re knee deep in he Stompernet mess and pretend to look out for the little guy?
You make it seem like you just happen to call Mike Filsaime for a comment, but then finally had to admit he was a client of yours?
You are WORSE than half of these guys… wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Lawyer scum you are.
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
@StumpedMarkus ::
You have the NERVE to call someone out for having the NERVE to post here … you prick?
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Poop Chute Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 7:37 am
@SD, Now THAT was some funny turnabout writing, Salty. I have to agree. Especially when the person is anonymous calling out someone brave enough to put his name on his posts.
By the way — I wondered how long it would take you to post that email after I saw it. Sending something like that out to all the moderators is sure to piss off most of them as it hands the pissed-off moderators the tools to bring down Stompernet by making this info public.
I can’t see who in his right mind would “invest” in whatever Stomper has at this point, not knowing they will be here with staff to support it tomorrow. So much for the “bring in new customers” part.
Did you also see it appears the Stomper sites…***all*** of them…appear to be hacked now?
Big ships don’t even look like they should float but start punching holes in the bottom, give ‘em a few and they down down QUICK. I think the hull is full.
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Bullshit Detector Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
@Mike Young, Esq., I am sure you are aware that Brad Fallon recently sued his ex-wife for some of the assets of her business. He apparently contended she was simply “holding them” for him under her name (due to his bad credit) and that he now wanted them.
The problem is, looking over that lawsuit paper work (which can be found linked to on this blog), and doing some simple calculations, leads me to believe that Fallon MAY have hidden those purported “assets” when he allegedly filed for bankruptcy a few years ago. If so, then the court filings against his ex-wife would be UNDENIABLE proof (admission) that he did so, and that would constitute federal FRAUD.
What do you think of that?
Seems like literally anyone reading this blog could print out and mail a copy of that document, along with this assertion, to the federal bankruptcy district court in Atlanta for investigation.
That might spell big trouble for Mr. Brad Fallon.
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SyndicateExposed Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
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@Mike Young, Esq.,
http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/page/827.jpg
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SD Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
@SyndicateExposed ::
congrats on your dumbness.
you’re joining the one comment per post club … a very unprestigious club.
so you’ve just reached your comment limit for this post with that little turd … any further utterances from youz will be deleted.
go cry to your mommy about it … or just ask her to hold you.
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# 24 February 2011 at 11:06 am

Anonymous Bastard said:
Someone should point the Stompernet folks to the Frank Kern video in the last post. Apparently they haven’t put themselves in a bad enough financial position yet. Doing that will *force* them to make it work.
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Stoic Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
@Anonymous Bastard,
Maybe we could get all scammers to take the Frank’s advice and dig themselves the deepest possible financial hole just for the glory of climbing out of it–maybe.
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
@Stoic ::
“deepest possible financial hole” is like the scammer missionary position … everybody’s doing it
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# 24 February 2011 at 11:51 am

Donk said:
This email wasn’t sent to the affiliates you bird brains.
This is about their employees (forum moderators) getting paid.
They wrote off their affiliates long ago!
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
@Donk ::
Indeed. I doubt the affiliates are even getting emoticon filled excuses anymore … they can just suck it. Julie put them all in the “don’t really need their money” column.
If Brad is still making excuses to affiliates … please someone paste it in so we can all laugh and cry and eat cake together about it.
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Bruce Dickinson Reply:
March 2nd, 2011 at 5:33 am
@Donk,
I’m owed A LOT of money as an affiliate (I’ll never see it) and these moderators knew the affiliates were written off and would never be paid yet they stayed on board. Don’t feel sorry for them, they knew what they were getting into. The old saying is true. A man (Brad) who cheats on his wife has no problem cheating his employees and business partners.
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# 24 February 2011 at 12:22 pm

WTF said:
So, you just explained how the business is essentially
a DYING project, and your have the audacity (or obvious stupidity to ask)
“And if anyone has any extra time to put into some marketing efforts, it would be awesome!”
The campaign is failing! promote it!
You know what I am going to do with this
giant sinking terd ship??
Point and laugh :-)
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# 24 February 2011 at 1:01 pm

Jack said:
Such tiny words left away from a sentence can deprive it of so much meaning.
Today’s Secret Word you can bet your life on (and not getting money on)…
“Again”
“Maybe you are aware, maybe you are not, but StomperNet is in trouble…”
“Again”

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# 24 February 2011 at 1:16 pm

FakeEarlNightingale said:
Stompernet had the potential to not be a total fraud, and for a while it wasn’t. While it was marketed in a less than ethical way (crazy hype, fake scarcity, etc.), there actually was a time that StomperNet had some real success stories of people selling real products who learned what they did via StomperNet. When they held events where people learned things and there was legitimately no pitching from the stage. The potential was there to have a legitimately helpful enterprise, though the economic downturn would have hit them hard under any circumstances.
But the ecomania of the founders made that impossible. They got sucked into (were the driving force behind?) the whole cabal of creative launch gambit scamsters engaging in a giant contest of “who can laugh hardest on their way to the bank?”.
It really is a shame, as the self-proclaimed BrAndy really were smart, talented guys. There was something there that could have been helpful to wannabes if ethics had been attached to the organization.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +5
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Shuddup Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
@FakeEarlNightingale,
STFU, they were promoting products from the fucking stage at the VERY FIRST CONFERENCE.
Ever hear of “Pipeline Profits”?
Or how about that lame shill from “Hacker Safe”?
Or any number of other idiot gurus along the way….
You can’t teach anything in 1 hour (the typical length of those presentations) so literally EVERYTHING was a fucking pitch for a backend product or service.
You might be thinking that people learned and took action on things IN SPITE of the idiots running StomperNet – and in that, you’re correct. But the actual number of success stories compared with the enrollment? HA HA HA! Lettuce not go there, carrot top.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +3
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FakeEarlNightingale Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
@Shuddup,
First year or so of StomperNet there was some solid, legit content shared. I don’t recall a pitch at an event. I met people with whom I had profitable relationathips. I picked up good, usable things. Any “how to” is going to have a very low % of implementers in any field, but I knew of some people who implemeneted and great success. Could they have learned similar stuff elsewhere? Sure, but they learned it there.
After about a year it went downhill in every way possible, but there was promise early before the ego, greed, and lack of ethics dragged them down.
Melagomania took hold and it was over. Fallon and Jenkins are not to be trusted in any way, but the first year of StomperNet showed promise.
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FucktardFreddie Reply:
February 26th, 2011 at 2:12 am
@FakeEarlNightingale, “After about a year it went downhill in every way possible, but there was promise early before the ego, greed, and lack of ethics dragged them down.”
I think you meant there was ego, greed and lack of ethics but it took them a year to figure out how to implement those things.
Any good that came out of it was by chance – Brad & Andy started out bad.
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Jack Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
@FakeEarlNightingale, “the self-proclaimed BrAndy really were smart, talented guys.”
No they weren’t.
Q.E.D.
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Juice Reply:
February 27th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
@FakeEarlNightingale,
Want to know why you should avoid StomperNet? Real StomperNet Membership Experience – Sept 2006-June 2008.
All I ever seem to post on Salty’s blog is about my experiences of using IM products – But if I can educate newbies and get them to avoid throwing hard earned money away like I have, then job done. So here is my advice – AVOID StomperNet, AVOID Andy Jenkins and AVOID Brad Fallon.
I used to be member of a lot of IM memberships and courses as I had various legit e-commerce businesses from 2002-2009 that shipped products worldwide. I’ve now sold them all and consult. incarnetwork.com being the first network i built and sold between 2002-2007.
StomperNet was initially advertised as an e-commerce and SEO (Search Engine Optimization) program as that was Andy Jenkins and Brad Fallon’s “expertise” or lets call it experience. This is why I joined as there was nothing else like it at the time.
Although I did learn some good stuff from the Stomping The Search Engines 1.0 videos and the updated Version 2.0 the membership just drained $800 from my bank every month. Incidentally if you are interested in SEO I recommend you grab Stomping The Search Engines 2.0 from the Torrent sites like PirateBay for FREE. STSE 1.0 is now antiquated and not worth bothering with.
The members area of StomperNet was a complete mess, really unorganized and unstructured. Videos, pdfs, tools, etc were added month after month at a rapid rate but with no real quality or structure. The forum was run by top-class muppets with massive egos who were incredibly inept and lacked experience – but were great ass kissers to the brandy twins.
Emails, apparently written by Jenkins were so patronizing and landed in your inbox every other day – then came the affiliate emails selling you product after product. You would need a team of 3 on a 24 hour shift to keep up with the information they were banging out – Problem is I’d estimate only 5% was worth any value at all. The other 95% was Andy Jenkins getting turned on by the sound of his own voice. Seriously this guy could talk some sh*t!
Brad Fallon was nowhere to be seen for months on end. Probably on the golf course with another internet shark Shawn Casey.
And its important to add that my account got temporarily suspended twice for requesting videos that were promised months previously and not delivered. I subsequently had to send grovelling and humiliating emails to a real nasty bitch, Jayne Hallock saying why my account should be reactivated. I was paying $800 a month for this service btw!
In the end I’d had enough and cancelled my account, which took 2 months of emails and then a report to the BBB to complete.
So there you go, why you should avoid the jokers at StomperNet.
All the best
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# 24 February 2011 at 1:18 pm

Shit Storm said:
People leave and no new ones are coming in…sounds an awful lot like a Ponzi scheme
If stompernet is so good at helping entrepreneur grow their business then why are they failing in business?
Eventually people stop believing the hype…Julie Swatek you listening?
She’s not drinking the Kool-aid she’s bathing in it
WINNER!! ::   +7
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
@Shit Storm ::
Well technically a Ponzi scheme uses new money to pay off old money … but sometimes Brad forgets about the “paying off old money” part … so it’s more like a motherfucking asshole stealing shit because he thinks he can do whatever the fuck …
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# 24 February 2011 at 2:15 pm
StomperNET Commission Theft said:
[...] worse, on February 22, 2011, StomperNET announced they can’t even pay their own moderators for the work they’ve done. An email sent by Julie Swatek to moderators says (in part): I know [...]
WINNER!! ::   +8
# 24 February 2011 at 4:58 pm

Anonymous said:
looks like they are serving up spyware now to try and make some money. I looked at a couple of their sites and google is reporting spyware installed. Or maybe its one of these mods getting their money.
  +5
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SD Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
@Anonymous ::
I noticed that too … as did many others.
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# 24 February 2011 at 6:55 pm

Anonymous said:
Well almost all the employees got let go too. Boy the stories they could tell. Salty you have some of the happenings at SN nailed, but there are so many more stories that could be told about who these people really are and I’m not talking about the employees either. There where some really great people that worked at SN and they really tried, but you can only do so much when people won’t listen.
WINNER!! ::   +10
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SD Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:24 am
@Anonymous ::
I’d love to hear “so many more stories” … lay um on me.
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# 24 February 2011 at 7:51 pm

Sheeple 1 said:
@me, what kind of mushrooms was Andy Jenkins talking about in his conversation with Jeff Walker. I know it´s a little off topic but just for curiosity…
  +1
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SD Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:25 am
@Sheeple 1 ::
… the kind you wouldn’t eat with a steak because they taste like an asshole’s asshole.
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PTSFOT Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 6:26 am
@SD, “…they taste like an asshole’s asshole.”
Yes! Another gem from SD.
Can I use that? Or do you own the copyright?
  +1
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SD Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@PTSFOT ::
… you can’t own jokes!
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Anonymous Bastard Reply:
February 26th, 2011 at 2:13 am
@SD, but what if the joke is true???
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# 24 February 2011 at 8:13 pm

Wiggin-Out said:
The only downside of all this, is that the little crud Jenkins got out before sinking with this pile of excrement.
Still, I look forward to seeing Ol Cuzin Boss go down in flames very soon, perhaps he’ll provide the Stompernet curtain call!
I’ll get the popcorn in…..
  +3
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# 25 February 2011 at 3:24 am

Vomit said:
How can they make money when their site is flagged by all major browsers and reports as a fishing site on google search results.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=614&q=StomperNet+&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
http://www.stompernet.com
Professional people run this company. “Obviously”.
  +2
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# 25 February 2011 at 6:50 am
Search Engine Optimization Certification | geeksonsteroids.com said:
[...] Stompernet.com has to be one of the biggest jokes for an internet marketing/SEO company that I’ve seen in a while. Below is text from their site talking about how great they are at marketing and SEO at the bottom of the post is an email sent to their affiliates that was taken from http://saltydroid.info/stompernet-failwhaling/. [...]
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# 25 February 2011 at 8:13 am

CircleJerkOutsider said:
First they tell you they can’t pay you for the marketing you’ve already done for Stompernet. Then they have the balls to say “And if anyone has any extra time to put into some marketing efforts, it would be awesome!”
UNBELIEVABLE!
What’s almost as laughably disgusting (almost, not quite… not much can be more disgusting than telling you they can’t pay you for work you’ve done, but please go do more unpaid work anyway) is this…
Most companies (and by “most” I mean legitimate businesses as opposed to ponzi schemes) set the earned commissions aside into a separate account rather than pooling all the monies together and using it for the owner’s living expenses.
WINNER!! ::   +7
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# 25 February 2011 at 9:57 am

CircleJerkOutsider said:
Just have to add…
They seem surprised that they don’t have new sales coming in. What did they expect when they bilked everyone who promoted them out of their justly earned commissions?
How many companies do you think would remain viable if they stopped paying their salesforce for the new business the salespeople generated? NONE!
SN is simply reaping their justly earned rewards.
WINNER!! ::   +9
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# 25 February 2011 at 10:05 am

Cosmic Connie said:
I’m still amazed that StomperNet failed, considering some of the luminaries who supported it.
A little bit of nostalgia…

WINNER!! ::   +9
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SD Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
@Cosmic Connie ::
Many of the central characters in this farse first made my digital acquaintance at this very conference … and it was the official beginning of AndyJenkins vs. FakeRobot.
How’s that working out for you so far Andy?
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Donk Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
@SD, what do you mean “digital acquaintance” Salty? You are not saying that you were at that event are you? I think if that were the case I would think less of the little fake robot.
  -1
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SD Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
@Donk ::
… I was making a scene on the twitters in real time while a felon was trying to speak/pitch … and it was noticed by a Syndicate that I didn’t know about yet.
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Donk Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
@SD, oh, so you were stirring up shit and now things haven’t been the same in guruland since? okay, I got it.
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Anonymous Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 5:36 pm
@SD, Wait, were you there?
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Dave Reply:
February 26th, 2011 at 12:54 am
@Cosmic Connie, Yuck. Schirmer, Jenkins, Belcher et al in the same room. Makes me want to wash my eyes out with 9mm eyedrops. Instead, I think I’ll just go vomit. Interesting how all the scammers hang together. I wonder how the crap Schirmer took back down under with him worked out….
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# 25 February 2011 at 10:15 am

Catbum said:
I just searched Stompernet and Google tells me that “This site may harm your computer.”!
Perhaps those mushrooms are poisonous?
WINNER!! ::   +8
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Jack Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
@Catbum, I thought about it some more and it’s probably just Google’s euphemism for:
1. This site may destroy you financially
2. This site may wreck your marriage and relationships
3. This site may wreak havoc on rational thought
4. This site may lead you to criminals
5. This site may make you a criminal
6. This site may lead you to drugs, alcohol, and many other untowards activities
7. This site may land you in jail
and I suppose probably also…
“This site may harm your computer”
WINNER!! ::   +9
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SD Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
@Jack ::
8. This site may tempt you into paying prostitutes for spankings.
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# 25 February 2011 at 10:23 am

StechDoes said:
It appears that one of those successful online entrepreneurs in their exclusive community is also a pretty good hacker. Managed to install a mallware distribution system onto their home page. Way to go unpaid but satisfied hacker, way to go.
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# 25 February 2011 at 2:09 pm

MazeMan said:


“And if anyone has any extra time to put into some marketing efforts, it would be awesome!”
LOL!!! No we haven’t paid you. No, doubt we ever will pay you. But hey, can you help us scam a few more people? Oh and that includes scamming you too since you won’t be paid for your efforts in helping us scam more people.
P.S. Can anyone please tell me the proper code for quoting in the comments? I see it done above but don’t know how. Thanks, peeps!
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SD Reply:
February 25th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
@MazeMan ::
it’s “blockquote … /blockquote” … did it for ya
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# 25 February 2011 at 2:51 pm

chris said:
ha fucking ha ha
fuck those stompinshit bitches
  +1
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# 25 February 2011 at 7:46 pm
A failing guru program said:
[...] [...]
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# 26 February 2011 at 12:39 am

John said:
Thank you so much for keeping us posted on this stuff, I think it was as far as a year ago this program was still being touted, but yet when they showed me some marriage or wedding website as a success I knew this program was all nonsense and a fluke.
I do not know how you do but I am glad you are here exposing this garbage
  +3
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SD Reply:
February 26th, 2011 at 12:45 am
@John ::
You’re welcomes.
Regarding said wedding site … http://saltydroid.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/War-of-the-Roses.pdf
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Mark Reply:
February 28th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
@SD, I read the text of the lawsuit against Jennifer Fallon, et al. Amazing reading. This suit was filed in May of 2009. Has it gone to trial? What was the outcome?
  +1
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# 26 February 2011 at 12:41 am

Bottom of the Pyramid Affiliate said:
Hello from the bottom of the pyramid.
I only found these posts because I googled “stompernet affiliate payment”.
Yep, dumb dumb.
I have been waiting over a year and something to get paid. The check is always in the mail. Each affiliate manager worse then the previous manager. How could you lie to so many people and be able to go home to your family and sleep at night? Tom and Lee?
The deceit is from the whole organization.
It really is deceit.
I truly believe everyone knows what is going on with the money and just look the other way.
Everyone is hoping to not be the last one holding the bag.
I was hoping I would get bailed out by new people coming in to Stompernet. It looks like that was not a good plan.
Why I kept promoting them? I honestly thought I would help out and everyone would get paid.
Yes, sell me your bridges.
When I read about the hacker putting malware on the site I could identify with the hacker. Angry affiliate. Actually, I do not think it was anger, I think it is just disappointment.
I hate to get all new agey, but I am going to have to let the affiliate payment go and all of my anger and disappointment with it.
The payment is a lot of money for me.
More than you could imagine for me at this time.
I am done.
Time to heal.
Thank you.
Please do not promote StomperNet.
Stop looking the other way.
WINNER!! ::   +9
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# 28 February 2011 at 4:36 pm

Bottom of the Pyramid Affiliate said:
Oh..
Yes..thanks SaltyDroid for the post.
It really is nice that someone is actually talking about it.
I have kept my mouth closed for too long.
Thank You.
BOTPA
  +4
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Shit Storm Reply:
March 2nd, 2011 at 9:57 pm
@Bottom of the Pyramid Affiliate,
Let this drive you to work with a higher quality of people…I don’t wish you bad but stop selling Biz op and this will never happen again
Biz op is not a product…it’s not real
Would Warren Buffet do a how to make money course? no
want to know why..techniques that make money are worth alot more using them then selling them
and if you really like to teach…then teach don’t charge for it
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# 28 February 2011 at 4:39 pm

Jack said:
Just thought of it:
“And if anyone has any extra time to put into some marketing efforts, it would be awesome!”
translation:
“And if anyone actually knows something about marketing please, please, please let us know. Please! (Seriously, folks).
OK. Back to ‘focusing on’ cash using the techniques Jack Canfield, Mark Victor Hansen, and Les Hewitt taught me. Heck, maybe I’ll throw in a CenterPointe CD while I’m at it. Guess it couldn’t hurt, considering, eh?”
  +3
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# 1 March 2011 at 1:56 am

Vern said:
I think Brad and Andy are going to jail.
  +3
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Jack Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 2:53 am
@Vern, Ah…together again!
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Shit Storm Reply:
March 2nd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
@Vern,
I wish that would happen but scamming in this country is a fineable offense it seems and not jail time
Funny how that works…financial rape is not worth their jail space but smoking weed is…i’m talking about a friend
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