Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease :: Attorneys-at-Scam

Vorys Sater Seymour and Nipple

Are you a soul-destroying scammer who’s irritated by the constitutional rights of the little people?

So annoying!

Are you worried that all your boiler room monies are going to run out now that you’ve burned every fucking bridge in Madison County?

Stupid bridges!

Then Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease :: Attorneys-at-Scam can help! At Vorys {pronounced voyeurs} … we believe in your right to fuck over the little guy. If the little guy deserved to have rights … then he’d already have enough money to hire his own whore law firm.  Am I right?

Of course I’m right.

That’s why at Vorys Sater Seymour and Pease our motto is …

You’ve got monies? We’ll take the case!!!

Other law firms with more than three hundred attorneys might get all up in your scamming face and be like :: “explain your business model to me … and your criminal history … and your problems with federal regulators … and the outstanding judgements against you … and the reasoning behind your desire to sue people who have empty pockets” … but not Vorys … that shit is all bullshit that you don’t deserve …

We’ll take the case!!!

Don’t let Whitney C. Gibson’s girl name fool you … he’s just one of the many fine vicious Vorys attorneys ready to help you finish off your soul-destroying sales sequence. Whitney understands that people expressing their honest opinions about your scam frauducts isn’t just inconvenient … it’s a threat to dirty money everywhere!

Solidarity {with dirty money everywhere}!

Who even knew that the University of Cincinnati had a law school? Well they do … and Whitney Gibson proved it by going there to learn all about crushing the already crushed. Now he’s ready to help you :: dear lucrative and unsophisticated scammer :: crush the people you wish were crushed. Whitney relies on his fuck-the-little-guy wingman :: and fellow Vorys attorney-at-scam :: Bradley L. Gibson. Bradley attended The Ohio State University law school :: which I think is like a safety school for people who can’t get into the University of Cincinnati. Bradley knows that if you want to silence a whole group of vulnerable and exploited citizens :: it’s best to fill the water with blood and fear by spamming out a critical mass of ridiculous suits against people who can’t respond …

Are these Gibson lawyers brothers :: or sisters … or sister wives? No one knows for sure and it doesn’t matter :: the point is if you want to sue someone who can’t afford representation … we’ll take the case!!!

Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease :: what we lack in prestige … we make up for with cruelty and inhumanity.

At Vorys we go the extra mile {toward hell} by not only filing pester suits … but by personally calling unrepresented defendants and misstating their possible liabilities in threatening tones … and by placing false time deadlines on one-sided negotiations.

Call 1-800-COERCION … now!

Of course the Rules of Professional Conduct frown upon such behaviors toward the unrepresented :: as they do on making total bullshit claims … Rule 3.1 …

A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous …

But rules are for attorneys-at-law :: and suckers :: who are still under the anachronistic misimpression that the legal profession is to be one of the great protectors of civic order. That’s why you need an attorney-at-scam instead … we totally don’t care about shit like that. Civic order? That’s Obama’s problem!

Paul B. Kerlin knows what you’re talking about when you’re talking about how much you don’t want other people talking about you. Paul might look like a harmless ginger rodeo clown :: but he’s more than ready to sign his name to any old totally stupid Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress claim if it will help you help old ladies out of money they don’t have.

People shouldn’t think they have the right to complain about disappointing products and services that they’ve purchased … just because they do have that right!

Haters gonna hate? I don’t think so playa! That’s what stuffy white people in ties are for … we’ll take the game out of the game {assuming that means something}.

At Vorys :: we are completely devoted to you … and your pursuit of total darkness. We will stoop to any level to help you maintain your position as :: “The Worst Person Imaginable” :: with the dignity and respect befitting a d-bag with shocking amounts of cash flow and no high school diploma.

Of course we must say pro-Pro Bono stuffs on our website like …

We believe that pro bono work is a fundamental part of being a lawyer.  Our firm therefore strives to foster an environment that encourages all of our attorneys – from the newest associate to the most senior partner – to provide legal services to individuals and organizations that otherwise may lack access to the legal system.

… but then later we force other members of the {very small} pro bono community to defend access lacking individuals against our own ridiculous shenanigans … so it all balances out. Legit companies who are paying us busloads of money for our services just like to hear cat crap like that. No worries though … we don’t actually care about society.

Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease … what first amendment?


Attorney-at-scam Super{anti}Heroes

Whitney C. Gibson — The Girl’s Name

Bradley L. Gibson — The {allegedly} Sister Wife

Paul B. Kerlin — Legally Ginger


Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease … a proud tradition of defeating the unrepresented … right now … every time … society can go and suck it.

Vorys … on your {dark}side.

PS :: Are you a soul-destroying scammer who’s irritated by the constitutional rights of The Salty Droid and his authoritative presentation of well researchinated facts?

Yeah :: umm :: sorry … we can’t really help you. Our attorney-at-scam services are more about repressing unrepresented parties with tiny small voices. We wouldn’t want to get caught in a fair fight with someone who’s been a fake robot for longer than Bradley’s been an attorney :: not while representing a horrible fucking bastard … I’m sure you understand.

Vorys :: we’ll take the case {except for when we won’t}!!!

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137 thoughts on “Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease :: Attorneys-at-Scam”

    1. @Jack,

      What do you think other clients of Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP – such as United States Amateur Boxing, Inc. and Limited Brands, Inc., owners of Victoria’s Secret and Bath & Body Works – make of this?

      Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP also represents 12 publicly-traded companies based in central Ohio. Which ones do you think they represent? Choices include:

      Abercrombie & Fitch Co.
      American Electric Power Company Inc.
      Big Lots Inc.
      Bob Evans Farms Inc.
      Bravo Brio Restaurant Group Inc.
      Cardinal Health Inc.
      Commercial Vehicle Group Inc.
      Core Molding Technologies Inc.
      DCB Financial Corp.
      Diamond Hill Investment Group Inc.
      DSW Inc.
      Glimcher Realty Trust
      Greif Inc.
      Huntington Bancshares Inc.
      Huntington Preferred Capital Inc.
      Lancaster Colony Corp.
      M/I Homes Inc.
      Neoprobe Corp.
      Oxford Resource Partners LP
      Pacer International
      Park National Corp.
      Pinnacle Data Systems Inc.
      R.G. Barry Corp.
      Rocky Brands Inc.
      SCI Engineered Materials Inc.
      Scotts Miracle-Gro Co.
      State Auto Financial Corp.
      Worthington Industries

      If DSW is doing business with people who do business with scammer Stephen Pierce (and his scammy scams), I’ma be goin’ barefoot this summer.

        1. @Jack, The RICO paragraph on the Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP law offices website says “financial institutions.” I guess maybe Stephen Pierce is a financial institution where little old ladies put in their life’s savings, and then Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP lawyers in Houston withdraw it for them. Then Houston attorneys Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP sue the little old ladies.

          @Luther, If the potential clients of attorneys in Houston Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP employ clever PR people, they might have nice Google Alerts in their inboxes in the morning about being mentioned alongside scammer Stephen Pierce and Houston lawyers Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP. Then if they are clients of the lawyers in Houston, DC lawyers or Cleveland lawyers at Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP, they can go into damage control mode. And prospective clients can ask themselves, “Should I hire Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP?” It just got harder to find a lawyer you can trust!

          Evidently among law offices it is also an open secret that Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP, attorneys in Cincinnati Ohio, have provided lobbying services for the following Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP clients:

          Grange Insurance
          Kids Come First
          National Parks Conservation Association
          Ohio Dominican University
          Ohio Northern University
          Ohio Oil & Gas Association
          USEC Inc

          Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP, lawyers in Houston, where kids come first and grannies get sued by scammers.

            1. @Jack, According to it:

              “The bill also provides for expanded “advertising” of investment opportunities by small companies and increases the offering threshold for companies exempt from SEC registration from $5 million to $50 million.”

              I can’t see how it could possibly lead to any problems there.

            2. @Jack,

              The intended consequences of that bill are actually really cool. It will allow businesses that raise funds on venues like Kickstarter to actually issue stock instead of just offering merchandise or warm fuzzies. Of course, Stephen Pierce’s Black America Online investment scam happened under the older, more stringent rules, so, as the New York Times Like a Boss blog says, “Opportunities to defraud unsuspecting investors, however, may be vast.”

            3. @Jack,

              I think the JOBS Act is overwriting Section 4(2) of the Securities Act, which allowed a Private Offering Exemption for small businesses to issue stock to “sophisticated” and accredited investors without a public offering. However, since it wasn’t a public offering, companies that went that route couldn’t “use any form of public solicitation or general advertising in connection with the offering.” Now, not only can you raise more money from more investors, but you can publicly advertise the investment opportunity on Kickstarter, et al.

              Maybe the quotes indicate not only “advertising” but also “public solicitation”? (Although I thought public solicitation was illegal in the U.S., except in certain counties in Nevada.)

      1. @Lanna, That was very helpful of you to list those business names like that. Now, the people at those companies can do a Google search and figure out if they are doing business with the law firm of Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP. In case they didn’t know already, I mean.

        Then after they are already here on this page, they can look around and learn some more. I bet they will think it is really interesting. I mean the clients of Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP. Also prospective clients of Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP will probably think this is interesting also. Even if they are in Ohio or not in Ohio, or even in Texas or not in Texas.

        Now I just feel like washing my hands a bunch, and maybe even my eyes. I don’t much like typing long names like Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease either. It’s just too many letters, and also too many lawyers.

        1. @Luther, That’s why it comes in handy for some firms like it to just use the name Vorys for their domain, because using the full name Vorys, Sater, Seymour, and Pease would make it unbrandable I think.

        2. Not that I’s an expert on the SEO’s … but as an expert on the trouble making I know that the key thing about keywords 4 trouble making is the long tail combos. So keep that shit up most def.

          0 of 10 lawyers who pretend to be reputation managers understand that paragraph.

          1. @SD, That is the funniest thing you ever wrote. These over-educated, over-paid boys know nothing about the world of Stephen Pierce. They only know that he is paying the bills-for now.

            There is nothing that Vorys can do to save Stephen Pierce reputation. He did this to himself and he could still fix it himself, but he won’t, cause he’d rather fight than quit running over the little guy. Big bad boy with his big bad law firm—can you say ‘protection racket’?

            Bradley Gibson is enabling Stephen Pierce to do what he has done for years, take money from the unsuspecting (including retirees)and stuff it in his retirement account. Warning to Bradley Gibson: Stephen Pierce is a pit bull and he will turn on you and bite your face off before he is through with you. You think you’re his attorney. Wrongo. You’re his tool. And when your edges get a little dull from all the abuse, he will throw you in the shit pile with the others.

            1. @BranP,

              I hear “Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP” has clients that include Stephen Pierce and other lowlives. It has a reputation for attracting the worst of the worst. If I were shopping for an attorney, wow, I would avoid them like the plague. WOuld not want my good name or my company’s name associated with them.

    1. @Sundog,

      Oh, but if only the damage to Stephen Pierce’s reputation were truly irreparable. Scammers like that seem to always recover over time no matter how hard they go down. If I’m not mistaken there are still people buying James A. Ray’s books even as he sits in prison. And FTC actions against Michael Trudeau don’t stop his books from selling.

      Just gotta keep on fighting the good fight. ‘Cause scammers they don’t go down too often.

      Furry cows moo and decompress.

        1. @Who is Michael?,

          ack–no that was just me slipping words around. And very sad I am about too because Michael Trudeau is actually some cool guy associated with Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller. I think he’s a juggler.

          Of course, I meant to write Kevin Trudeau the guy that sells the “Natural Cures” book full of the secrets that They Don’t Want You To Know, etc.

          My apologies to Michael Trudeau.

          Thanks, @Who is Michael? for catching that.

          Furry cows moo and decompress.

  1. Complaints about attorneys may be submitted to the appropriate Bar Association’s Ethics and Grievances Department, as conveniently listed here:


    Whitney C. Gibson
    Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease
    Cincinnati, OH
    State Bar: OHIO
    Complaints about attorney Whitney C. Gibson can be submitted here:


    Bradley L. Gibson
    Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease
    Cincinnati, OH
    State Bar: OHIO
    Complaints about attorney Bradley L. Gibson can be submitted here:


    Paul B. Kerlin
    Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease
    Houston, TX
    State Bars: Texas, Arkansas

    Complaints about attorney Paul B. Kerlin can be submitted here (Texas):

    Complaints about attorney Paul B. Kerlin can also be submitted here (Arkansas):
    The Arkansas Committee/Office on Professional Conduct:

      1. @SD, then you want to know that Vorys is still fighting to protect and defend the fragile reputation of their new, fun client Stephen Pierce. Vorys filed another lawsuit against another two MORE former employees! I always knew that Stephen Pierce was packing more heat than he could handle, but now Vorys plays into his game!!!! Is this good representation? I thought Kevin was a moron!!!

    1. @State Bar Complaint Contacts,

      First page Goog by name!
      Algorithms — damn near as big a bitch as predatory lawsuits.

  2. Texas Disciplinary Rules of Professional Conduct:

    – A lawyer should use the law’s procedures only for legitimate purposes and not to harass or intimidate others.

    – A lawyer shall not assist or counsel a client to engage in conduct that the lawyer knows is criminal or fraudulent.

    – When a lawyer has confidential information clearly establishing that the lawyer’s client has committed a criminal or fraudulent act in the commission of which the lawyer’s services have been used, the lawyer shall make reasonable efforts under the circumstances to persuade the client to take corrective action.

    – When a lawyer knows that a client expects representation not permitted by the rules of professional conduct or other law, the lawyer shall consult with the client regarding the relevant limitations on the lawyer’s conduct.

    A lawyer shall not:

    – Violate these rules, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another, whether or not such violation occurred in the course of a client-lawyer relationship;

    – Engage in conduct constituting obstruction of justice;

    – Engage in conduct that constitutes barratry [Harassment] as defined by the law of this state;

    In the course of representing a client a lawyer shall not knowingly:

    (a) make a false statement of material fact or law to a third person; or

    (b) fail to disclose a material fact to a third person when disclosure is necessary to avoid making the lawyer a party to a criminal act or knowingly assisting a fraudulent act perpetrated by a client.

  3. Paul B. Kerlin’s brief list of civic “accomplishments” includes this impressive credit:

    “Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo, Committee Member for the World’s Championship Bar-B-Que Contest, Beverage Stands Sub-Committee, 2010 – present.”

    The BEVERAGE STANDS sub-committee??

    Holy Dr. Pepper, now that’s “impressive.”

    Does Paul Kerlin by any chance also volunteer for “ice cube tray duty” at Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease?

  4. BENTONVILLE, ARKANSAS — February 18, 2012 – A Benton County man is suing for defamation, saying he was accused on an Internet site of murdering a woman.

    Houston attorney Paul Kerlin filed the suit in Benton County Circuit Court on behalf of Adam Kuettel against James L. Steward Jr., of Knoxville, Tenn.

    Steward is the administrator of the website Justice4Sarah, where he accuses Kuettel of killing 25-year-old Sarah Fennell, according to court documents.

    The suit contends the website and others have made numerous false and defamatory statements regarding Fennell’s death.

    Fennell died Feb. 13, 2009, at a Fort Smith, Arkansas hospital.


    Here is attorney Paul B. Kerlin:


      1. @SD, WOW is RIGHT! That is one incredibly sad saga. I’m just shocked and speechless. I hope that family gets the support it deserves – and JUSTICE!

      2. @SD, And here I thought he was stupid young lawyer taking money to look the other way. Turns out he’s as bad (or worse?) than his clients

      3. @SD, F me. WTF is going on there? I mean, if it’s like the reports say it is, how is it even possible for it to be ignored? It, and the gross difference between the ER reports and police action, should be front page news there. Even now (esp. now, since so much time has past with nothing to show for it).

        A nice older man in Montana told me something once: Killing doesn’t help anyone whose been hurt. That can’t be undone. But it can stop that guy, and it’ll stop more cowards from copying them. Killing bad people isn’t bad. There ought to be some killing done.

        Wow. Anybody have some decent media skills? A solid national media source asking the local source for info seems like a good action step (other than spilling some blood).

        1. @Joshua ::

          Relax about the blood spilling … jiminy christmas!

          But yeah if it’s like it looks … it’s hella bad.

          I tipped it to the national reporters and producers that I know … and Jezebel. Couple other people should tip Jezebel.

          Be awesome Jezebel … or change your name to Good Housekeeping for Internet Dummies.

    1. @Jack ::

      That’s pretty scary actually.

      First question :: So how do you make money online?

      First answer :: You make money online.

      Done and done.

      Reminds me of this …


      HBGary is prolly charging NSA 15 quadrillion dollars a year for security advice … but trailer trash can circumvent their private parts.

      Old school people pretending to be new school … but old school and new school are worlds apart now … all the posers should learn to swim.

      1. @SD,

        Hah! Have you read the Pastebinned IRC chat with Penny Leavy that Ars links to on page 2? According to Anonymous, the social engineering of Nokia “Chief Security Specialist” Jussi Jaakonaho was executed by a 16-year-old girl! Pwned.

    2. @Jack, This guy is pitiful….inarticulate as heck. Late breaking news here-digital content is different than traditional content. Note to producer: QUICK! Weigh him down before this lightweight flies off the screen! OOPS! THERE HE GOES…

  5. Well after reading those extraordinarily frivolous lawsuits and the horribly sad http://justice4sarah.wordpress.com/ site linked above, I am not surprised that the Gibson and Kerlin didn’t back off after Droid did their due diligence for them.

    And I’m even less surprised that The Salty Droid website won’t be getting hit with any not-so-frivolous lawsuits from these sharks any time soon….

  6. Is there any question why society-at-large considers attorneys to be soul-less, deplorable, inhuman bastards? And will the bastards ever tire of that compliment?

    1. @Frank,

      The very nature of the lawyer-ing profession encourages sociopathic behavior in lawyers.

      It’s a testament to human nature that not all lawyers are soulless leech-like salespeople seeking to suck as much money as they can from their clients and not caring who they hurt in the process.

      Only many lawyers are like that. Not all of them.

      Furry cows moo and decompress.

      1. @Wyrd, Thanks for the milk and cookies, Aunt Bee. There is no need to defend ANY lawyers – the most capable of self-defense population that exists. I never said “all” lawyers are without souls. I stated that it is common public perception, and there is a reason for that.

        However, if any DO in fact have souls and want to make that known, they have a need and an obligation to their profession [AND their souls] to take a stand against the bottom feeders among them who ARE without souls. And if they do not do so, then they are one and the same.

        An otherwise non-bastard attorney may also establish their soul-worthiness by steadfastly supporting the crime-fighting efforts of their spouse, or perhaps simply helping a blogger who is being victimized by one of their legal peers. I’ve already observed the former; now let’s see the latter. Any soul-worthy volunteers? Now would be the time…

    2. @Frank ::

      “Is there any question why society-at-large considers attorneys to be soul-less, deplorable, inhuman bastards?”

      Is it because society-at-large sucks at reading? Probably. Cause lawyers represent large among the small group of trouble makers who have moved history forward. Then rodeo clowns and people with girl names come along and dump all over the legacy for chump change.

      Lincoln and Gandhi thank you Paul Kerlin … for nothing.

    1. @ringo6624,

      I’d try to do that, but atm I wouldn’t be anywhere near neutral voice enough to withstand the (for lack of a better term) cross-examination I’d receive from another Wikipedia author.

      Furry cows moo and decompress.

      1. @Wyrd ::

        And maybe they could just stop this nonsense before it matters enough to be on Wikipedia under “controversy”.

        Big firms who want big clients don’t need big trouble over tiny clients who have a long history of not paying their bills.

        It’s math … and it’s the right thing to do.

  7. I have been skimming through what I perceive to be the main court filing:
    Stephen Pierce vs Ted Cantu [saltydroid.info]

    A few observations…
    In page 3, claim #11 states

    11. Plaintiffs, have, until the actions of Defendants, had an excellent reputation in the
    field of internet business marketing. Plaintiffs conduct a large amount of their business on the
    internet, and therefore their reputation on the internet is critical to their business.

    I dispute the first part of that claim i.e. “Plaintiffs, have, until the actions of Defendants, had an excellent reputation in the
    field of internet business marketing.”

    page 3, claim #13:

    Plaintiffs have been irreparably damaged and suffered significant monetary
    damages, in an amount to be proven at trial, because of Defendant’S defamatory blogposts and
    Oh, if only that were true. If only the Plaintiff had had his reputation irreparably damaged. Sadly it seems that no matter how much negative publicity a scammer receives they always find a way to come back in the end. Like the bad guy from a B horror movie.

    In Causes of Action on page 4, #17:

    17. The statements are false because Plaintiffs’ business is not a scam or fraudulent, it
    is a legitimate internet marketing business.

    I would argue the phrase “legitimate internet marketing business” is virtually oxy-moronic.

    This point is the 600 lbs invisible pink unicorn-elephant hybrid standing in the room. You will be hard pressed to find any LEGITIMATE internet marketing business.

    From page 6:

    30. Plaintiffs demand a jury trial for the claims for damages and has tendered the
    appropriate fee.

    a jury trial?? are you f*cking kidding me!? WTF? How can they expect to make this part play out in their favor? Is this just one of those tactics in negotiation where you make ridiculous claims to see which ones stick so you can “meet in the middle”? A jury trial? I’m no lawyer, I don’t know hardly jack about how the jury selection process works except for I saw the movie Devil’s Advocate. How can Stephen’s lawyer minions possibly make this part work out in their favor? I guess they’ll try to get a bunch of people that don’t know about how vile Stephen Pierce is on the jury… assuming that there will be one that is.

    I also looked at Stephen Pierce vs Rick Keene. [saltydroid.info] It’s almost the same document except that the page breaks fall in different places and some of the points have different numbers. (And presumably it names Rick Keene as defendant instead of Ted Cantu.)

    I just don’t get how they expect this to work out. I guess Stephen Pierce is attempting to use the legal system to silence criticism. Well, just because he found a group of dick lawyers to take the case, that doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll win in court.

    Stephen Pierce, Demon-Shark–please allow me to introduce to you your lawyers from Vorys, Sater, Seymour. They are also a pack of rabid Demon-Sharks like you. I dunno that this is gonna go so well for you.

    Furry cows moo and decompress.

    1. @Wyrd, Speaking of lawsuit machinery and subsequent breakdown…Remember The Righthaven!

      “Q. Are you affiliated with Righthaven, LLC?

      In no way shape or form…

      …well except that we bought their domain at auction.

      Righthaven, LLC is a United States based firm in the state of Nevada that amassed some notoriety for aggressively suing bloggers and internet forum commenters at the drop of a hat. In fact, they might fairly be counted among the “prolific litigants” we mentioned in our answer to the previous question.

      Initially, we were merely casually interested observers in the legal wrangling that followed and eventually resulted in the auctioning off of the righthaven domain. Once we noticed that, however, we couldn’t resist acquiring it.”

      About new righthaven.com…

      “Finally, no matter where you are, if you have the arrogant temerity to publish rational criticism of powers larger than yourself, we are probably your sort of vendor. (And please allow us to buy you a beer in person sometime too!)”

    2. @Wyrd, I dispute the part where it tells us about that Stephen Pierce is a natural person, but mostly I guess it’s based on the SD pictures, here.

    3. @Wyrd ::

      Well it’s not actually supposed to go to court … which is why it’s okay for it to be total suck boiler plate … and why I didn’t get one.

      It’s harassment not litigation. If it goes all the way to a jury trial it will cost a fortune which Pierce doesn’t have … and the most he can hope to win is nothing because the counter parties can’t even afford attorneys no less judgements.

      Which makes it all very evil … allegedly … in my opinion … etc.


      1. @SD,
        Well, it has had some beneficial effect for Stephen Pearce.
        The stephenpearcesucks.net website has been taken down – probably due to a hostgator receiving an intimidatory email from Stephen Pearce’s attorneys, Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease :: Attorneys-at-Scam

        1. @EricG ::

          Yeah :: legal harassment usually works … that’s why it’s so evil.

          People on the web like to pat themselves on the back about how this sort of thing always blows up in the repressing bastard’s face … “Streisand effect” and what not … but that’s bullshit. You usually don’t hear about people who have been silenced because they’ve been silenced. That’s still the majority outcome.

          1. @SD, some of us have been silenced long enough and are really, really, really running out of excuses not to shine a big dose of disinfecting sunlight on the empire of Stephen Pierce.

            1. @former employee ::

              Everyone is encouraged to contact me as soon as possible.

              Windows and doors :: open and close … act now before supplies are running out.

        2. @EricG, Hey stephenpiercescam.net may have come down but there is at least one more taking it’s place. Try this one @ http://www.stephenpierce.info. The owner tells his own story about how Stephen Pierce took his money and ran for the hills. Doesn’t look like you can post, but any one of you can link to it! Let’s all support this site!!

  8. “A scam is defined as ‘a fraudulent business scheme.’ See Webster’s Online
    Dictionary. Plaintiffs’ business is not a scam, nor is it a fraudulent business scheme”

    It’s not a scam, nor is it a scam?

    I object to the prosecution being incoherent.

    Maybe I should’ve stuck with programming; I feel like coding an Ace Attorney knock-off where in order to win the game, you have to get the whole MMO scam crowd convicted.

    1. @Clark ::

      I wish while he was so busy doing his due diligence with the dictionary :: that he would have looked up “Internet” and found out about how it’s a proper noun that needs to be capitalized pretty much every time … instead of never.

      Unless you’re being an internet hipster of course … then it’s all good … but I’m thinking in legal documents it’s best to stick with the language usage rules that we’ve all agreed on previously {specifically in elementary school}.

  9. If burning every bridge in Madison County would have stopped that awful movie I say let’em burn!

    “Are you worried that all your boiler room monies are going to run out now that you’ve burned every fucking bridge in Madison County?”

  10. Thank you to SD for this awesome series on Nipple-Pierce, to Lanna (and Jack) for the additional info and links. Thief in law, indeed. Priceless.

  11. At international confab in Mexico, top Justice Department official references bogus libel lawsuits to chill critics:


    At international confab in Canada, top U.S. officials meet with top Canadian officials to discuss the problem of cross-border fraud, a problem that also includes rampant Internet fraud that reaches across national borders:


    It takes more than talk among the folks who wear badges or run major government departments, though. That’s why SD is so important — even as his would-be litigation opponents line up to chill him (after an earlier would-be chiller planted the seed from across an ocean that all it would take to rub SD of his voice is one shotgun blast).

    I’m thinking, SD, that the bad guys believe they can cause you to holster your pen. And they probably COULD do it in a temporary sense while comforting themselves with the hollow thought they’ll be free to scam another day or even indefinitely.

    But they’d be wrong about that, just like Scott Rothstein was wrong when he thought he could chill the city paper in Fort Lauderdale and even the Sun Sentinel — and just like Andy Bowdoin was wrong when he thought he could chill the Bloggers and the regional pub in Tulsa.

    Oh, speaking of Rothstein: George Levin, one of his Ponzi feeders, was running a scam in an earlier life. Stuart Rado, a consumer advocate, started exposing the scam, and the scammer caused his lawyers to file a SLAPP lawsuit.

    The long-and-short of it is that the lawyers turned up the heat against Rado, who had to defend pro se. Rado “lost.” He also, unfortunately, died.

    Not even Rado’s death could ward of the lawyers interested in providing cover for a scammer/client.

    See main story by Bob Norman in the New Times:


    See PDF of what the Justice Department did after Rado died and was getting hounded from the grave by the lawyers interested in providing cover for a scammer/client whose company had a FELONY conviction:


    Hang in there, SD.

    1. @Just A Blogger (JAB) ::


      But if they want to see my pen holster :: then they better go for the shotgun approach … cause I’m not going to lose the paperwork fight I was born to fight against a bunch of passionless dummies.

      I’m literally fucking begging for it. Please dummies … just do it!

      1. @SD,

        I perhaps should have pointed out that Rothstein is a CONVICTED racketeer and Bowdoin was sued by his own members under the RICO statute.

        Perhaps there will come a day when the lawyers who provide cover for a scammer/client find themselves filing responses to counterclaims brought under the RICO statute.

        Some of the good folks over in Utah have used the RICO statute in counterclaims when subjected to bids to chill, and some of the good folks up in New York state are doing the same thing.

        Do take care, SD.

        1. @Anonymous ::

          Sic transit gloria mundi
          “How doth the busy bee”
          Dum vivimus vivamus

          Emily Dickinson motherfuckers …

          … boom!

      2. @SD,

        “I’m literally fucking begging for it. Please dummies … just do it!”

        Well, maybe they would if you’d just cut out the flattery.

        On the other hand, maybe they’d fancy a long, unfavorably-publicized extended break away from billable hours.

        Of course, from now on, whatever they do elsewhere is obviously going to become a permanent, highly-visible worldwide record right here.

        It doesn’t seem like they have any choice but to dance, and SD will decide on the music.

  12. Just did a google search for “vorys”
    This page is at top of page 2.

    Shouldn’t be too long before it gets near the top of page one.

    An ideal case for them to test out their reputation management skills!

    1. And a search for Vorys, Sater, Seymour, Pease brings up this page at position 3 on page 1.

      Robot SEO seems very effective!

      1. @Anonymous, on my Internet Explorer browser that I keep for just these types of searches, the Droid comes up in the fifth position on page 2. It should be noted that it’d preceded by the law firm’s websites itself, yellow pages, lawyers.com, linkedin, martindale.com, findlaw…in short, the Droid is the first page of real substance when searching on these turds.

    2. @EricG, awesome…i am assuming they will try to sue salty for this site, seems like thats their “mojo”?

      1. @ex-employee,

        I’m sure Salty would be disappointed if they did nothing.
        And hopefully the hosting service that provides this site has bigger balls than Hostgator.

      2. @ex-employee, Unfortunately, they probably are far too fearful to try that. Too bad, though. It would no doubt backfire in awesome fashion.

  13. I guess I need to recuse myself because I live in Cincinnati. And I know people who have attended the law school at UC and participated in the Innocence Project there. Furthermore, both UC grads and Ohio State graduates are among my immediate family…I would hate to think that these bottom feeding attorneys are seen as the norm for either of these schools.

    I do hope people will click through to the Justice for Sarah link and sign the petition at Change.org concerning her case. Especially in this time of understandable outrage over the Trayvon Martin case it’s important to realize that case is one of many where the course of justice has been perverted. The man who murdered Sarah was never even arrested.

    Is the Stephen Pierce scam site archived? I was reading my way through it when it disappeared.

    1. @Barbara ::

      Nah :: you can do it.

      It’s just like the fat jokes :: normally not acceptable … but here it’s so so fun!

      Lil’ narcissist lawyers feel the pain of “your law school sucks” jokes like Naomi suffers from jodhpurs jokes.

      A friend of mine from law school is a little too gay for Ohio State … so that joke was the highlight of my month.

      PS :: But seriously … they are suck law schools. I guess that’s why the jurisdiction claims make zero sense … and why they sued companies that no longer exist. It’s like hiring not-lawyers to be your lawyers.

      The University of Cincinnati :: a great school … for basketball players.

      Ohio State :: wait … you mean it’s not okay to cheat?


    2. @Barbara, Please be active on this one! It’s really important. You have been a wonderful contributor here, and it has really made a difference. Thank you!

    1. @Jack, That $500 a month charge includes something called “complaint prevention.” I wonder if a man called “Guido” is in charge of that department.

      1. @Jack, Thanks :)

        Well unfortunately it’s also on my Hostgator account so it might well get hit with whatever Rick’s site got hit with.

        However, I’m stubborn old fart so if that happens I’ll just move the contents somewhere where one’s right to free speech isn’t based on how much money you have to spend on bottom feeding scum sucking lawyers.

        I’m in Italy among the lovely anarchic Italians. Civil court cases take about 10 years to resolve here, by which time (given my age), I’ll probably have kicked the bucket anyway. Neither are the Italian authorities likely to extradite me :)to attend a hearing in a US court..

        I’m really hoping the bottom feeding scum sucking lawyers that represent Stephen Pierce do actually try do something. After all it’s Pierce that is paying them ;) It will cost me less than $20 to move the contents and a bit of time, and there are literally hundreds of hosting companies out there.

        I wonder how much it costs Pierce for his bottom feeding scum sucking lawyers to send a take down request to whatever hosting I am using? I lurves the internetz…. :)

        1. @Spike ::

          Italy … sweet … even better.

          For the record :: the site came down because of direct and unethical harassment of Rick … it wasn’t hostgator.

          1. @SD, yeah the site owner saw a wave of expensive ugly coming his way. Stephen Pierce and Vorys got what they wanted for that site, but it will live again in the mirrors!

        2. @Spike, There should be no basis for a takedown without formal legal due process. You aren’t hosting any illicit content. It’s a civil matter that would need to be resolved in court first.

          In the unlikely event they tried to skip the due process part, you can counter respond to any takedown attempt and demand they take it to court. That would go nowhere for all the reasons you just described.

          As an added bonus, if they tried to omit the due process part, SD would then have another line item in his ethics and grievances petition.

    1. @Spike, Thanks a lot for doing that. Like Jack said, you rock!

      Anybody else want to join the party and help with a mirror? This could become a movement – and all without bran muffins!

      Also: there are lots of forums, complaint boards, and other blogs where you can post some or all of the content, even if you don’t currently have a website. Don’t forget to include a link back to here so people can get the latest scoop.

      Just use the Stephen Pierce “category” link:


  14. Just did some checking.

    This page is beginning to rank in Google’s SERPs (search engine results pages).

    Vorys: Page 1, 10th position
    Vorys, Sater, Seymour: Page 1, 6th position
    Vorys, Sater, Seymour Pease: Page 1, 6th position
    Vorys, Sater, Seymour Pease law firm: Page 1, 6th position

    Source: Pagewash.com

  15. I just realized something. Now that Stephen Pierce has hired the esteemed firm of Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease to protect him, he has more lawyers than he has employees. In fact, he is probably paying them more to silence his critics by coercion and threat than it would cost to silence them with service. So he says that all his business problems are someone elses fault. Did all these employees and customers band together to make all this up?? WOW. What a band of brothers that is. From all over the world they came together and told the exact same story. Now that is some amazing mental telepathy!!! I need me some of that in my office cause its like herding cats up in here!

    1. @voice of the voiceless, yes..everything is always someone else’s fault, ALWAYS – quoted from the big man – his employees are “drinking moron juice” – he is delusional. there is not one single employee that can say they like stephen, enjoy working for him etc – that is unless they are on payroll – once they get off payroll the truth comes out

    2. @ex-employee, Vorys needs to get out of this before Salty and a trainload of former employees and affiliates have another public hissy fit with their name all over it. Rainy weekend ahead. Think I’ll write their customers…now where is that list??

    3. @voice of the voiceless,

      Boy did you get that right.

      This turkey scammed me for $37,750 and I know that figure is correct because I’ve just added up all of the costs and sent them to my lawyer Mr Alan Rosenberg at Chamblee, Ryan, Kershaw & Anderson, P.C. in Dallas Texas.

      He could have saved himself all of the pain and heartache that this is going to cause by a) refunding my initial outlay, or b) providing a product at half that cost.

      It’s now going to cost him multiples of that amount as neither I nor Chamblee, Ryan, Kershaw & Anderson, P.C. plan on a negotiated settlement. His ass is ours before a court in the “Land of Litigation”.

  16. Stephen Pierce Vs. Dale Brown (for Defamation)

    Just posted at RealScam by SoapBoxMom:

    “Pierce has gone lawsuit happy in my county. Here is his 3rd active case. And, he has got the best judge in the county for two of the cases, Carl Ginsberg. He was in charge of the case Tim Darnell filed against me. He lived up to his reputation of reading everything. He is tough on scammers. By the end of the case he was absolutely my hero.”

    Case info she posted:
    Register of Actions
    Case No. DC-12-01053
    STEPHEN PIERCE et al vs. DALE BROWN et al §
    Case Type: DEFAMATION
    Date Filed: 01/27/2012
    Location: 193rd District Court
    Party Information
    Lead Attorneys
    BROWN, DALE Pro Se

    Events & Orders of the Court
    02/06/2007 ORDER – LIMINEVol./Book 524L, Page 1048, 5 pages
    01/27/2012 ORIGINAL PETITION (OCA)
    01/27/2012 ISSUE CITATION
    01/27/2012 JURY DEMAND
    Vol./Book J28, Page 168, 1 pages
    Served 02/21/2012
    Returned 03/08/2012
    Served 02/21/2012
    Returned 03/08/2012
    03/20/2012 SCHEDULING ORDERVol./Book 524L, Page 1049, 5 pages
    03/20/2012 ORDER – MEDIATIONVol./Book 524L, Page 1050, 5 pages
    03/27/2012 Pre-Trial Hearing (9:15 AM) (Judicial Officer GINSBERG, CARL) TELEPHONIC
    10/02/2012 Jury Trial – Civil (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer GINSBERG, CARL)
    Financial Information

    Coastal Vacations at MLMWatchDog

    1. @Jack, so the judge on the case is a positive in our favor? wonder what we can find on this dale brown person, apparently defamation like the other two lawsuits – does he have a blog up on stephen or something? do you know…

      1. @good thing, From RealScam:

        “Full court docs available here:
        Enter case as: DC1201053

        Case started 2/6/2007…then nothing til 1/27/2012

        Jury trial is set for 10/2/2012.

        Last entry in case history is from Judge Ginsberg office to plaintiff attorneys advising some administrative procedures weren’t followed.”

        Here’s gist of the mail-merge complaint:

        Upon information and belief, Defendants, Dale Brown and Coastal Vacations have created the website http://www.stephen-pierce-scam.com which attacks and defames Plaintiffs Stephen Pierce and Stephen Pierce International, Inc., and their business. Among other things, Defendants describe Plaintiffs’ entire business as a “scam” in each of the following ways:
         “www.stephen-pierce-scam.com”
         Stephen Pierce Scam”
         “Stephen Pierce Scam discovery”

        A scam is defined as “a fraudulent business scheme.” See Webster’s Online Dictionary. Plaintiffs’ business is not a scam, nor is it a fraudulent business scheme. Plaintiffs
        inform potential customers of a price for various programs to educate them on internet marketing. When the customers pay for the programs, Plaintiffs provide legitimate programs, as
        advertised. Plaintiffs do not guarantee any outcome from their programs, and expressly disclaim any particular result from buying the training programs.”

    2. @Jack, Yet another “silence-the-victim” lawsuit generated by the Ginger Rodeo Clown and Beverage Stand Sub-committee, Paul Kerlin?

  17. woo Hoo!!! The crack team at Vorys is moving and grooving now. Today they served a subpoena and made a call of two to see who they could intimidate. I guess they needed the billable hours.

    Where is Craig Pettit and how has he escaped notice? He is that slippery little eel in a Tommy Bahama shirt who took over Stephen Pierce International just about the time it crashed. Upstanding attorney Kevin Vela introduced Craig to SPI and Stephen recognized a snake when he saw one. Apparently the monthly take overcame any qualms he had about the gig, cause he just took the money and filled his Corvette convertible.

    When Stephen Pierce screwed people, Craig was like “Nothing I can do. Nothing you can do.” I guess that made him not responsible.

    When Stephen quit paying the rent, Craig took him in and now the international office of Stephen Pierce International is located in a strip center on the highway with a truck out front that says “I buy gold.” Wish I could post a pic.

  18. Here in Cincinnati that law firm is unaffectionately known as “Seymour Butts”, you know, like the old joke about the book “Under the Bleachers”.

    To say that they are not held in high esteem would be an understatement.

    1. @Barbara,

      Out of purely morbid curiosity, could you give specific examples? (I mean besides the one @SD has provided.)

      Furry cows moo and decompress.

    2. @Barbara, The SaltyDroid won!! Vorys dropped all charges against the 3 bloggers,customers,affiliates (victims).
      All droids and droidettes take a bow. Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease (http://www.vorys.com) either wised up and shut down the Stephen Pierce reign of terror or they got through to that sicko with their new wisdom gained at the capable hands of the Droid!!

      Great work!!!!

  19. My geography is better than most but I’m finding it difficult to see why someone that needs the highly valued services of an attorney and lives in Dallas would engage Vorys, Sater, Seymour, and Pease. From what I can see they don’t even have an office in Dallas.

    Surely there is a law firm in Dallas that Stephen Pierce does not owe money to that would represent him.

    Then again I could be wrong maybe there are no more law firms in Dallas that are willing to take the risk.

    It’s a cruel world.

    1. @Kangaroo Boy, related – from soapboxmom on Realscam.com

      “Pierce made a bizarre choice in attorneys. Dallas is a very large metropolitan area and is overrun with very talented litigators (I am acquainted with a few of them), yet Pierce chose an attorney from Houston that is at least 4 hours away? Have the local attorneys black listed the scamming clown? It will be very difficult for him in court with his reputation. I learned from my legal forays that the history of the scammer in every painful detail will be dug up in humiliating depositions and thorough discovery. I can guarantee Judge Ginsberg will see to it that all parties produce. By the time this is over we will know everything but their underwear size! I can’t wait to publish all this! The courthouse is just down the road from me and I am quite familiar with the records division in the dungeon of the courthouse. It will be delightful to make a field trip out there and do some digging.


      1. @Jack,

        I’m inclined to think his choice for attorney has something to do with other attorneys not taking his case and/or perhaps Stephen already knew Vorys, et. al. since they probably run in the same circles.

        Either way, it just makes me that much more eager to see what happens in this case. That’s assuming, of course, that it doesn’t blow up before it even gets to trial.

        Furry cows moo and decompress.

  20. Blame it on the mill:

    A happy accident
    Were it not for a 19th-century mill accident, Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease might never have come into existence. Upon graduating from Ohio State University, founding partner Arthur I. Vorys began working in a mill in his native Lancaster, Ohio. But after injuring his hand in an accident, Vorys was forced out of the mill business. He found a new profession as an attorney, and after serving as Lancaster city solicitor and head of the city’s insurance department, he teamed up with Lowry F. Sater, Augustus T. Seymour and Edward L. Pease to form a combined practice in 1909. For an unusual twist, the firm was “built on a handshake.” That is to say, there has never been a written partnership agreement.”

    How much would you trust a law firm founded on the basis of “a happy accident”? And why don’t they have a written partnership agreement? What an odd thing to brag about.

      1. @, Can former customers and affiliates join one lawsuit? Are you an attorney? Salty, jump in here.

        By the way, has my hero Alan Rosenberg filed yet? Haven’t seen anything on that. Did I miss it?

        1. @Ex Employee,

          Defendants, not plaintiffs! They should be held accountable, not rewarded. Got it?

    1. @, Are they still representing him? I heard they got tired of the tirades.Anyway, that deal about him getting a lawsuit against his wife and her family was bogus and has now been overturned. It was nothing but a default judgement and he spun the heck out of it to fool a few more people for a few more months. that is the story of his poor, miserable life.

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