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I wantz 2B rich said:
Salty, you’re the best! Advocating for a class action suit against big-time fraud and even bigger thief, Nipple-Pierce, including all the informations p’d off former employees need to wax his arrogant ass.
Hey all you former employees, just click on the links. Mebbe I’ll go to the Warrior Forum and spread the word…
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Doctor Derp Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
@I wantz 2B rich,
Done & Done: Here’s the thread. I have a timer running from the moment I posted it… we’ll see how long it stays up.
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/576200-lawsuit-against-stephen-pierce-international.html
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fred Reply:
May 15th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Stephen Pierce advertised a 3 day seminar and collected my money. He never had the seminar. I tried for almost a year to get my money back. I was ignored and lied to but I decided I would never give up. I finally figured out that if I posted how he was stealing my money on his website he might respond and can you believe it almost immedietly he respnded LOL. But he would not offer me a refund he had enough nerve to tell me he would send me some of his products instead. I finally told Mr Pierce I was going to the attorney general of the state of texas and the federal trade commission if he did not give me my money back. He yelled at me and said ” go ahead who cares you cant do anything” can you imagine talking to a customer who for 1 year tried to get his moeny back like that. I think he was hoping I would just go away but I DID NOT. Well he got scared and gave me my money back pretty quick after that!! Throw him in the same cell with Belcher !
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Todd Bart Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 7:34 am
@fred, Stephen Pierce only refunds when he is afraid of the law or the press!. Please post this story @ http://www.ripoffreport.com. Just because you got your money back does not mean that you were treated respectfully. It means that you had to wait, beg, and threaten. ALL customers and employees must tell the world about this man!
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Angry Ant Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 5:30 pm
@fred,
You also need to get in touch with the attorney setting up the class action case against this charlatan. You were treated shamelessly and deserve your chance at retribution and justice.
Can’t find the attorney? Simply Google “Stephen Pierce lawsuit” and pick any link – or you can contact the good folk at StephenPierceScam.101@Gmail.com They will set you straight.
Don’t talk – take action my friend.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 25th, 2012 at 3:21 pm
@fred, Good for you. Dont take no shit off this moron. Word on the street says that Pierce is in his last inning.
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# 5 April 2012 at 7:08 am

mirele said:
Yessss! I’m hoping this has the desired effect of having Pierce and his attorneys turn tail and run. If not…Texas courts can be interesting.
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 11:32 am
@mirele ::
His lawyers running won’t protect him :: the suit is about recovering money for victims. He can either pay up or go to court … with or without his freakwad attorneys.
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Anony-mouse Reply:
May 21st, 2012 at 9:11 am
@SD, TX Courts may yet get interesting for Stephen Pierce (http:www.successsculpting.com) and the attorneys at http://www.vorys.com. He still has lawsuits and subpoenas floating around cause he apparently thinks that this will silence former employees. What a fool!
He can just be someone else’s bitch and hope they pay him the measly affiliate commissions. If good folks only knew how tainted that mailing is, no one would bother.
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ANony-mouse Reply:
June 16th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
@Anony-mouse, Posted this hopeful comment almost a month ago, and now it have come to pass. Stephen Pierce truly has been reduced to affiliate marketing! I am on his mailing list and that is all I see. No more big stage for this loser. Let him drag his prey into the pit one at a time like his ‘former customers’ and see if he gets rich off that gig.
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Derwin Reply:
June 18th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
@ANony-mouse, Maybe he will have to get a REAL job, based on his education and skills, as opposed to what pops out of his MOUTH. Perhaps something like flipping burgers or mopping floors. Unfortunately for him, those jobs also expect some RESULTS!
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Anony-mouse Reply:
May 16th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
@mirele, Former employees have met to discuss taking their files to the authorities and/or suing Stephen Pierce and his blog sucking, bottom feeding attorneys at http://www.vorys.com.
I would be sick about his new gig at http://successsculpting.com/ but maybe his latest take will go to a good cause, exposing him for good for the tyrant and scammer he is.
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Angry Ant Reply:
June 18th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
@Anony-mouse,
Fear not, his day of reckoning IS coming. Word on the streets is that a second law firm is now involved in registering new law suits against this scammer.
He’ll need every cent of his ill-gotten gains to settle the dozens of claims that have been registered with Alan Rosenberg at Chamblee, Ryan, Kershaw & Anderson.
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# 5 April 2012 at 7:19 am

Cosmic Connie said:
Way to go, @SD. I will do my part, from my little outpost at the Edge of Nowhere, Texas, to help spread the word.
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# 5 April 2012 at 8:58 am

Jack said:
From Chamblee, Ryan, Kershaw & Anderson, P.C.:
“We Take Your Case to Trial for a Verdict
Business Law · Commercial Litigation · Civil Appeals
Many law firms claim to have a team of litigators. Few law firms take many cases to a trial. Settlement is too tempting — just resolve the dispute for what you can get and move on.”
Time for a bit of rounding up…
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# 5 April 2012 at 9:07 am

Ooohwee! said:
Now that there be the stuff of legends! (not like the movie Legend, which sucked, tho Tim Curry plays a great devil, but Legend as in ‘oh shit! It’s happening, it’s finally happening!
Suck it scammers!
You may have made some monies in the wild west days of the interwebs… But the law dawgs (and law bot’s) are coming to town now… Very Cosmopolitan! A brighter world you hope to but will never enjoy is just around the bend… It’s not if, but when!
You’ve been warned.
But don’t bother trying to ‘clean up your act’ now either… It’s too late. Even your ‘friends’ who you can’t even count on to mail for you know the jig is up.
Ha!
Nice work SD… I imagine some day, robots everywhere will know your fake name, and bestow mighty 8-bit praise to the salty one.
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# 5 April 2012 at 9:19 am

Head Honcho said:
Outstanding plan, Salty. I can’t imagine this won’t get some traction. Sounds like there are certainly plenty of peeps living in the “Village of the Scammed” to start making the case downright frightening.
I hope you don’t back down — even if they now back off as a result. They’ve already gone too far. You can’t backtrack on stupid cruelty.
Texas justice. Yesss.
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@Head Honcho ::
I’ve never backed down :: and I sure as shit am not backing down off of this fucking guy … but this one isn’t on me.
Once you start a contingency case you usually don’t back down … because it’s epic expensive for the lawyers who are paying all the bills until some kind of collection is made.
The real question is … who will get added for their own role in perpetuating this scam?
Will it be Get Motivated?
Will it be ClickBank?
Will it be PowerPay?
Will it be Prosper?
Will it be Russell Brunson?
Will it be The Syndicate?
Will it be SANG?
The possibilites are endless … expecially if you are a subject matter expert who knows the whole scamworld from the inside out. How fortuitous that I happen to be just that.
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Jack Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
@SD, Didn’t know SANG. So, THIS is what billionaire-top influencer websites should look like???…
http://sangevents.com/
ANOTHER MicroSoft Paint Masterpiece!
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
@Jack ::
Speaking of terrible design :: for the record … the lame lawyers are my only modification to the ridiculous picture on this post.
Proofs …
http://mlmallamerican.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/turn-fear-to-power_Stephen_Pierce.pdf
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Jack Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@SD, And is it OK to assume that getting “Turn Your Fear Into Power” was the intential phrase-picking, since it seems exactly what he accomplished with the lawsuits?
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Wyrd Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 9:29 am
@SD,
“Turn your fear to power”
Yeah, but fear leads to the Dark side of the force…
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
I wasn’t familiar with SANG either… but just look at the list of luminaries — some old friends here (e.g., Canfield, Diamindis, etc.):
http://sangevents.com/speakers/
And look at this page…
http://sangevents.com/alumni/
I see Les Brown’s name… Les has also participated in Kevin Trudeau’s Global Information Network (GIN) events.
I admit I wondered for a moment why someone supposedly as successful as Joe Sugarman (Blu-Blocker, etc.), who is already living the high life on Maui, would need to hang around orgs like this. But I guess I know the answer: “Everything Is Never Quite Enough” (in the words of a song by Senegalese musician Wasis Diop). Sugarman even claims (on the Alumni page) that attending a SANG event dazzled him and changed his life.
Yep, one big circle jerk…
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sang Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:08 pm
@Cosmic Connie, SANG started from that stupid party Stephen had as his house in the middle of nowhere that SD posted about it in an earlier thread. Larry Benet and Chet Holmes took the idea and ran with it…without Stephen, he was the loser of the group and nobody wanted him around.
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Yep! Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 2:49 am
@sang, Yep Perty Much.
@Cosmic Connie,
A) Joe Sugar is actually mostly in Las Vegas and has been working on a supplement and anti-aging product line, not only a huge market but let’s face it… at his age, he can use all the help he can get. (no offense, Joe)
B) I would agree that the IM niche is one big r/circlejerk, but being a very rational person, and one who has attended far too many pitch-fests and ‘events’, SANG is actually a really cool gathering. Different than the typical event (where you have the predators and the prey, mainly a bunch of either mainly offline -legitimate businesses- who are trying to save their business by getting into internet marketing or add new sideline revenue streams, trust fund babies who are still trying to figure out how they are going to change the world, and D-Teamer Noobs who all get eaten alive by the ‘presenters’ who know their craft all to well) SANG presenters and the attendees are generally very intelligent and professional people.
C) Not to say that their aren’t a good swath of sociopaths out there in the SANG crowd, there are… but it’s one of the few events where there are enough intelligent people who actually have real businesses that we outnumber the assholes and get to more openly mock their tactics.
D) You’d be surprised how more often these days marketers pass around salty fone-liners, like schoolkids passing notes under the table. I’m curious to see how news of this post will ripple throughout the community… Kinda wish it had broke a few days earlier, infusionsoft just finished their annual users conference. 1,500 people their… and a solid core of salty fans who could have helped spread the word from the inside out.
@SD, do you know you have a pretty strong following within the ranks of the infusionsoft employee crew? It’s true. There are a number of peeps who can’t stand the “gurus” and “partners” they have to butter up to keep them promoting Infusion. There’s a whole other group that hate the leads they generate (because they don’t have actual businesses). And there is a whole other group that feel the ‘gurus’ don’t stack up well with Infusionsofts ‘attributed’ core values.
You should spend some time working that crowd… that gots lots of inside heat. And reports :)
Sorry for typos or rambling… long day and it’s 2 am.
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
@Yep! ::
Well here’s a little note for those Infusionsoft employees …
… send me something … hurry up now. Something that proves an awareness by management about the evil to which they are party. Send it to me anonymous … I’ll know what to do with it.
It’s not just about doing the right thing … it’s about one morning waking up and finding yourself out of a job because a semi-legit company won’t be able to survive a big public government action like the scammers do. Big animals die first … cockroaches die last.
A problem that’s not being talked about will never be solved.
# 5 April 2012 at 9:45 am

Wyrd said:
Do potential plaintiffs have to live in Texas in order to get in on this?
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Carl Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 9:54 am
@Wyrd, Nope. They just need a Texas attorney. Now they’ve got one!
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 10:12 am
@Wyrd ::
Nope. They don’t even need to live in America.
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Angry Ant Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 4:51 am
@SD,
I can assure you that in the Land down Under [the guys that took the America's Cup home in 1983] there are folks just itching to sing up. They are all down the tubes to the amount of $20k each PLUS travel and expenses.
Bring it on brother.
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
@Angry Ant ::
Spread the word … tell the kangaroos even … you never know.
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# 5 April 2012 at 9:47 am

Now We're Talking...Literally said:
1. We know what to do (don’t we, gang?)
2. See number 1!
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# 5 April 2012 at 9:52 am

Email said:
Your email link in the article needs fixing Mr Droid.
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 10:11 am
@Email ::
Thanks … fixed.
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# 5 April 2012 at 9:53 am

SD (author) said:
Someone post to Warrior Forum … then post it back here.
Paul Myers :: I’ll expect it to stay up. If you take it down then you best have a good explanation when I call you to ask what the fuck.
And then Blake’s forum please … where my threats aren’t required to keep something up.
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Wyrd Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 11:51 am
@SD,
I’ll (attempt to) create an account on warrior forum and post there after work today.
Blake’s forum: I’ll try to figure out what that is, then post there too.
After that, time permitting, I’ll google search and twitter search pasting in links in places that look apropos.
It’s always hard to tell in advance how effective something like this will be. It might wind up being not at all effective (but if we don’t try, we’ll never know, so we’ll try). Or it might wind up being far too effective. If Mr. Rosenberg’s email gets all jammed up or spammed up, please let us know.
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
@Wyrd ::
No to the first part …
Those are insider places … I wanna see insiders sacking up.
Yes to the second part. Although you can really just put it in a couple nerd places that you might otherwise hang out at anyway. Wide area net.
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_cartman_ Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
@SD,
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/574826-victims-stephen-pierce.html#post5982296
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
@_cartman_ ::
Hey!
We thought you might be dead.
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_cartman_ Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
@SD,
Hola!!
hah…yeah…I did see that comment…I was dead, but got better [[shout out Renee Airya...don't ask]]….but the commenter who guessed the ball of yarn was much closer to being correct [[I love yarn...but they had an intervention for me...so I am better now]].
Apparently when you roll yarn around, you hurt the ones you love….not to mention our cats [[Arthur Anderson and Jeffrey Skilling]] were getting awful mad…
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RT Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@SD,
That warrior forum link is already dead!
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@RT ::
Ha! Less than 20 minutes.
Now somebody else do it … how about Patrick Pretty … someone ping him.

Head Honcho Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
@SD, I went to the thread Cartman posted in…got this:
No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator
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Jack Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:51 pm
@Head Honcho, Sounds like most-to-all of us better go notify the administrator.
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PercyPennyWhistle Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@_cartman_, nice to see censorship is still alive and well in that cesspit of a forum. (Thread has been removed already)
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f Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
@_cartman_,
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former employee Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
@Wyrd, Tell the rest of us what to do and we will do it! not a member of warrier forum or any affiliate group…
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Calling Out Paul Myers Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 1:11 pm
When the smoke from this finally clears, that snake Paul Myers truly deserves his own turn under the hot spotlight.
In the meantime, this will have to suffice for now:
http://www.warriorforumsucks.com/search/label/paul%20myers
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# 5 April 2012 at 11:28 am

Mother Kilstein said:
Oh dear!
I had a bad feeling in my bloomers about this douche-bag the minute the FedEx man delivered a big box of DVDs from Stephen Pierce Enterprises to my talentless loser of a son Harlan.
Shortly after the delivery man left, Harlan dropped the extra large, triple meat, stuffed crust domino’s pizza he was scarfing and ran down to the basement, box in hand.
It’s quite unusual for schlubby to not finish the entire pizza (or the cheese and sausage stuffed brownie bowl they make just for him) so I went down to the basement to check on him.
I found that turd of a son with his pants down, bopping his bologna to a colored man on the TV! Heavens to Betsy, I almost shit in my depends.
It turned out the colored man on the TV was none other than Stephen Pierce, Harlan’s latest internet marketing ‘hero’.
“Pull up your overalls, you dang loser! You’re going to go blind!” I shouted at schlubby. Then I asked why in the world he needed to buy yet another internet marketing home study course, using MY credit card???
Schlubby looked at me with those pouty eyes and quivering chin that only a mother could love, and said, “Because, Mother, I’m going to make you proud one day. I’m going to get RICH on the Internet, just like Stephen Pierce, Fank Kern, Brendon Bruchard, and all of my other heros have. I’m going to do it, Mother, just you watch.”
I looked around the room and saw shelves brimming with dozens of how to manuals, CD sets, and DVD courses from every internet marketing scumbag you can imagine.
For years, Harlan Shitstain, my loveable but so misguided turd of a son, had been buying these worthless get rich quick programs (using my credit card) telling me of his plans to make lots of money, buy me a nice house, pay off my bills, move into his own apartment, hire pretty hookers to pretend they’re his girlfriend, and much, much more.
Oh, schlubby had such big plans. Such grand dreams. Yet he never seemed able to actually do much with his live, or achieve much meaningful success. How could a mother not feel sorry for her own child, her own flesh and blood? What could I say to encourage him to seek a straighter path in life, to make good use of his natural talents, and be productive in a way that adds value to society?
I looked at the 59 year old ass-wipe and said, ‘SHUT YOUR FUCKING PIE HOLE, YOU NO-TALENT, TWINKIE-EATING, HO-HO-SCARFING, BIG MAC MUNCHING, INTERNET-SCAMMING, WOMAN-REPELLING, DECENCY-REPULSING, SKID MARK ON MY COUCH LEAVING, PARASITIC, NARCISSISTIC, TRIPLE-CHINED, BLOATED, SAGGY-GUT, FLABBY-ASSED, FINGER-HEALING, NLP-CONNING, FAKE-CREDENTIALED, NOT-DOCTORED, ASS-WIPE, HUMAN-TURD-OF-A-SON!!!! “STOP FOOLING YOURSELF WITH THESE STUPID, INTERNET MARKETING SCHEMES, AND QUIT TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OTHERS BY TRYING TO BE LIKE THE SCAMMERS YOU ADMIRE. YOU CONTRIBUTE NO VALUE TO ANYONE. STOP ALL OF THIS NONSENSE AND GO GET A REAL JOB. YOU WOULD ADD MORE VALUE TO SOCIETY IF YOU MADE TACOS AT TACO BELL!”
Schlubby just looked at me with a blank face for several minutes.
Finally, he spoke:
‘Are you done Mother, I would like to get back to my masturbation while Stephen Pierce is still fresh in my mind.’
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Head Honcho Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
@Mother Kilstein, Wow! Can I borrow that speech you gave your son? It would maybe do some good to all the wanna-be IMers following these bums and I might need to use it.
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Wyrd Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
@Mother Kilstein, (aka Mrs. Shitstain)
With that kind of motherly love, I’m sure your son will be highly motivated to eat a bullet any minute now.
True there are ways to give tough love speeches to your children, but what you just did in that (I hope to Eris) fake speech isn’t so much tough love as it is merciless verbal abuse. And I should know–I’ve both received and (sad to say) given my share in my time.
Yeah, yeah–I KNOW. You’ll say I’m missing the point. You’ll say I should chill out. You’ll say it’s all about stopping the scammers, and it’s just a joke, and etc, etc.
Whatevs.
Normally I say a parent isn’t culpable if their children turn out to be kinda loser-y.
However, Mrs. Shitstain didn’t have to let Harlan use her credit card all those times. And all that “you’re a sack of shit” talk kind of eats away at a child’s self esteem over time.
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I think what I’m trying to say is that your post lacks empathy for the victim in much the same way that liquid nitrogen lacks heat.
And… you’re not funny.
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Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Harlan was Pierce's copywriter Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
@Mother Kilstein,
Your son Harlan used to write sales copy for Stephen Pierce.
Harlan is also the one who put Pierce and Rich Schefren together (both Harlan and Schefren owned franchises in Florida for the same hypnosis clinic chain at the time).
It’s a very small world.
For example, Mary Ellen Tribby worked for Agora’s Early to Rise in Florida.
She attends SANG and then starts working for Rich Schefren. In short time, she moves over to work with Ryan Deiss and Perry Belcher in Austin.
“Laissez les bons temps rouler” for the french trade unionists.
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ferntastic Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 2:16 am
@Mother Kilstein, nice try psychologist kilstein
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Anonymous Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 6:58 am
@Mother Kilstein, you are such a wonderful mother, and your speech was just what the doctor ordered. Please continue helping your schlubby to see the light.
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# 5 April 2012 at 12:00 pm

former employee said:
Scumbag lawyers..Hello World Stepehen Pierce told his wife he can kill her
and no one will know any better. She is still married to the asshole.He won’t sign the divorce papers. He threw a hard cover book at her and she used her hand to deflect it. Stephen Pierce you are going to jail
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ex-employee Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
@former employee, don’t forget he also said the same thing about his employees – quoted from the big guy “I could take every one of you out and nobody would even know or even care” – wonder why he doesnt post that on his facebook page of motivational quotes.
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I wantz to be rich Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
@ex-employee, BTW, have you gotten in touch with Attorney Rosenberg? I don’t know if you are eligible to file a claim against SPI, but you are privy to first-hand information that could really help a lot of people. Hope you email him, and I wish you the best.
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gone Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:19 pm
@I wantz to be rich, yep! will do all that i can
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I wantz to be rich Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
@former employee, What a dirtbag. This guy needs to be behind bars. Throwing a hardcover book at a wife who’s been fighting cancer and who comes from a hardworkin’ family – he’s got a mother-in-law who’s willing to mow 4 acres, after all. My heart goes out to the wife and her mother. I used to mow 4 acres of rocks and tumbleweed at the ripe old age of 30, and it wiped me out, so I can’t imagine how m-in-law is coping.
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
@former employee ::
While Internet Marketers and self-help fake gurus are deciding how they are going to play this situation :: let me remind everyone of this …
Alicia Lyttle is one of you. She got sucked from the world in which she belongs … into this shit stinking den of iniquity. Where she’s dutifully done all the things she was supposed to do. Everybody loves her … everybody knows she’s great.
And all this bullshit torture of her personhood and complete disrespect for her life … everyone knew about that too. Yet who stood up? Who said :: “no, that’s enough?” Nah fuck it right … just keep on promoting him … and letting him speak at your dumb events … that way she’ll have some place to drag his fucking suitcases.
Is it going to be the 50th str8 time where only “the hater” stands up for what is obviously right while the Peace & Love committee turns their back on suffering?
If you’ve got half a brain … or half a heart … you’ll say something to redeem yourself and your former lack of courage before I get to “The Almost Death of Alicia Lyttle” part of the story.
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tears Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
@SD, honestly the way he treated her brings tears to my eyes -and the sad thing is that he didnt hide it…he treated her like shit in public, in front of others, but hes intimidating to others, so nobody said anything – the problem is people dont want to get involved in other peoples personal affairs so they turn the other cheek.
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another former employee Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:26 pm
@tears, i never worked with Alicia Pierce but I worked with Stephen Pierce and he treated his female employees awful. such a tyrant! that said, he was too much of a pussy to treat the men that way. clear and present discrimination.
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Anonymous Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Dig into Stephen Pierce’s personal life yes…. let’s dig deep into this scammer. This site is the first I’ve read about any spousal abuse, but I am anxious to see the Almost Death of Alicia Pierce. Spouses often get sucked into the scam just like the people buying the scammy courses. It’s often just as bad, because the person thinks this is their husband or wife , the person they are in love with and want to spend the rest of their lives with. I only bought Web Traffic video from Pierce and felt cheated because I couldn’t even own the damn videos, I kept having to log into his site to watch them.
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Head Honcho Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 8:11 am
@Anonymous — There is also the fact that challenging the way a spouse is bringing the money into the house will directly affect how well the spouse and children are provided for. They WANT it to work and be real on so many levels they’re willing to ignore all but the clearest of evidence.
I’m seeing lots of testimonies. Lots. Like church only better. Bringing the devil down is always fun and court is the way you do it with the devils among us.
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
@Anonymous ::
Or we could “dig dip” … as Crystal Cox would reKoMend.
# 5 April 2012 at 1:03 pm

Mr. Suggestion Box said:
Just a suggestion: to make it more likely that the message will quickly spread far and wide, and to make it a clear and useful one – perhaps it would be a good idea to provide the good peeps here with some actual boilerplate.
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
@Mr. Suggestion Box ::
No not exactly boilerplate because that will dilute the effect somewhat … slight modifications on my above paragraphs plus a little bit of originality is probably better.
And … once a few other peeps blog about it … then we can link to sites other than mine. I’m a bit of a handful … links to me are not appropriate for all audiences.
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Mr. Suggestion Box Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 4:47 pm
@SD, Good point. Will Attorney Rosenberg issue a press release or notice requesting that concerned parties contact him? If he would do so and post it on his website, that would be super linkworthy.
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SD Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 5:24 pm
@Mr. Suggestion Box ::
Nope … that’s exactly what he can’t be doing.
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Mr. Suggestion Box Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
In that case, people…there’s work to do! :)
WINNER!! ::   +8
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Lanna Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 7:19 am
@SD,
Rule 7.03 reads, “except that a lawyer may pay reasonable fees for advertising and public relations services rendered in accordance with this Rule.” Does Chamblee, Ryan, Kershaw & Anderson, P.C. have PR pros? Are they able to talk to media outlets about doing a story, under the Rule? Or is that something we minions need to handle?
Also, will this lawsuit provide a tangible benefit to employees and affiliates who’ve been mistreated?
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
@Lanna ::
1. I don’t know if employees are being added … and it’s best if we don’t talk much about specifics until something is actually filed and on the record so that no strategies are given away … and no negotiation points surrendered.
2. We have to do the PR. Promoting a case is a really sticky wicket for lawyers in any circumstance … but up against the devil it’s especially important to always maintain the moral and ethical high ground.
If we are able to get plaintiffs :: press :: and serious attention for the case … then other lawyers might take note and we could really get something going here. Trial lawyers smelling money would be an excellent counterweight to scammers gone wild.
# 5 April 2012 at 1:20 pm
Class action lawsuit against Stephen Pierce International @ Alley-Cat said:
[...] can see another great post by Saltydroid here: http://saltydroid.info/the-people-vs-stephen-pierce/ Be Sociable, Share! [...]
WINNER!! ::   +7
# 5 April 2012 at 1:42 pm

I wantz to be rich said:
@SD -
I posted in the Warrior Forum at 1:58pm. Let’s see how long it stays up.
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/574920-have-you-been-scammed-stephen-pierce.html#post5983420
WINNER!! ::   +7
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Zack Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:09 pm
@I wantz to be rich, 10 minutes. Paul Myers is working really hard to help his buddy Stephen Pierce.
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I wantz to be rich Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
@Zack, No shit. I checked over there at 2:10PM, and the post had vanished into the filthy air of the WF. Tried to post again, but I wasn’t allowed to.
OK. It’s someone else’s turn to go to Warrior Forum and spread the word about legal recourse.
Is Paul Myers the person who runs/owns WF? I purchased 2 WSOs, they left a bad taste in my mouth, a bad odor in my nose, and I needed to take a shower after I reviewed them. I requested a refund on both pieces of crap, and will never purchase anything there again.
And I couldn’t get out of there fast enough after posting. Just being there made my skin crawl.
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Zack Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
@I wantz to be rich, Someone named “Allen Says” (assuming he is a real person) reportedly owns that scamming cesspool.
Paul Myers is an egotistical, bullshit-spewing moderator whose own actions have substantially enabled scammers to operate there.
That dubious forum and its operators and contributory “staff” are very much deserving of a government investigation, and it WILL happen.
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Jack Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@I wantz to be rich, http://www.successsecrets.co.uk/ebooks/wholetruth/allensaysmarketingtruth.html
“Remember, it pays to be a Warrior – Stephen is one of the “O.W.’s” from way back. (Original Warrior)”
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Lou Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
@Jack, Yes, but now he gets to be a worrier.
WINNER!! ::   +10
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
@Jack ::
http://saltydroid.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Critical-of-Critics-.mp3
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What the what Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
@I wantz to be rich,
By 4:50 central time it was already gone. Please, please, please, those of you who are members at warrior forum, please keep posting there and link back here. This is getting fun.
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# 5 April 2012 at 3:01 pm

gone said:
@I wantz to be rich, gone…they are fast
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# 5 April 2012 at 3:18 pm

Monty Burns said:
One of the more hilarious aspects of the WF are the occasional special offers on how to make money with warrior special offers.
In other words:
How to make money online by teaching others how to make money online even though you’re not making any money online.
Wouldn’t you just love to learn how to do that?
And wasn’t that sort of how Frank I-pretend-that-I’m-a-cool-laid-back-surfer-dude-because-that-way-I-can-sell-more-of-my-shit Kern got started?
And yeah, f**k Stephen Pierce too. Very happy that my hunch he’s a useless piece of shit has finally been confirmed.
WINNER!! ::   +13
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Smithers Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
@Monty Burns, I believe you may be referring to this:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/538080-closed-warrior-special-offer-domination-program-can-teach-anyone-create-warrior-special-offer-sells.html
Step 1: Click on “Post Thread”
Step 2: Pay the listing fee
Step 3: Profit!
That’ll be $9.95 please.
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Anonymous Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
Excellent @Smithers!
I didn’t see this one before though – but it’s a perfect example. These people are ‘true masters’ of adding the same old shit to a new can.
Release the hounds!
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Monty Burns Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Forgot to enter my beloved name!
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# 5 April 2012 at 3:58 pm

ex-employee said:
Oh I would also like to add to “the people vs stephen pierce” is that stephen does not pay affiliates. he hasnt paid affiliates in over a year. the only ones that get paid are the ones that complain and make enough noise. for most affiliates the amount owed is under $1000 so its not worth it to them to spend money on lawyers to go after him, instead they give up.
we had to beg and plead for him to pay affiliates, we had to just keep stalling the affiliates and making up excuses because stephen refused to pay. instead he used the cash on his first class plane tickets, his private karate lessons and the list goes on….
this should be an open call to all affiliates that are owed money by stephen pierce to step up as well…..
WINNER!! ::   +9
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former employee Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
@ex-employee,
Were you still there when that customer Phong Pham came to the office and sat there until we gave him some money? Yelling and screaming? He was so pissed. LMAO!!
He wasn’t a Stephen Pierce affiliate, but Stephen Pierce Affiliates need that same backbone. They can post on http://www.abestweb.com/ and tell their story that they were not paid. That keeps others from getting hurt too.
When you can’t get your money, get your pound of flesh.
WINNER!! ::   +8
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_cartman_ Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
@ex-employee,
yeah…well…affiliates…ummm…yeah….Andros was an affiliate [[most of today's goobers were once affiliates]]…that is the stepping stone to creating one’s own frauduct and possibly having those you were affiliate for support you and your frauduct….
I won’t cry any fucking tears for unpaid affiliates…
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# 5 April 2012 at 6:26 pm

Hey Peeps! said:
I’ve been commenting away, everywhere I can. But I know I’m not enough. If you’re reading this, how about joining the cause? Blogs, forums, complaint boards, etc. It all makes a difference. Just search and post where you can! :)
Also, anybody with a few minutes and a youtube account (or you can just sign up for one)…please post a comment with details and the above attorney contact info under each of the 20 videos that you will find here (these videos are ranking, so it would help spread the message):
http://www.youtube.com/user/sarahc3030
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voice of the voiceless Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
@Hey Peeps!, I do it, Miss Scarlett! I do it!!! LOL. and I will too.
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# 5 April 2012 at 7:15 pm

Just one more ex employee said:
I could go on for days, weeks,months on the moronic and stupid things that are Stephen Pierce. He claims to have all these words of wisdom and big bully attitude, however, he doesn’t have the balls to say things to your face..He will be sitting next to you texting his bully words. On and on and on…And then he will start all over again, just in case you missed the three page text he just sent you. He made one comment over and over to anyone who just started. “I will tear them down and make them what I want”. The problem was, everyone left his sorry ass before “he made them what he wanted”. Stephen Pierce (thinks) thought he was invincible. HA! It’s real easy to be a bully hiding behind a sorry ass lawyer, including Kevin Vela and now his new buddy Paul Kerlin. It’s ok Stephen Pierce..This attorney is going to do what every other one has done..Watch you file stupid, useless lawsuits and take all your money. It’s called Karma!!! You took money from all these innocent people and refused to fulfill your end of the agreement and then deny them their refunds. K A R M A! I will be back to post a little snippet of the abuse that he would send to his own family and people that worked for him. Do you know what it was like to hear him on stage saying all these wonderful, motivational words and then see how he treated his staff, his wife, even his own brothers and sisters? He’s a fraud from head to toe, and pretty sure he has no heart, no soul….He gives Christians a bad name!
WINNER!! ::   +11
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former employee Reply:
April 5th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
@Just one more ex employee, PREACH IT SOUL SISTER!!! Can I get a witness?!? Oh yeah, I can get 20 witnesses!!!
WINNER!! ::   +9
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# 5 April 2012 at 8:31 pm

Jack said:
Looks like someone’s mad-dashing ScamBook complaints:
http://www.scambook.com/search/comments?search=stephen+pierce
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Jack Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 1:32 am
@Jack, Another post again not coming down:
http://www.realscam.com/f11/people-vs-stephen-pierce-1189/
Administrator SoapBoxMom posted pierce-lawsuit-list and said:
“Here is enough to get our research started. Suing one’s detractors is certainly one way to get a deluge of publicity. Maybe Pierce should try for the big time and sue the BBB like Timothy Darnell’s pyramid scam Advantage Conferences did. Darnell lost in Summary Judgment and then sued me for blogging about that embarrassing trouncing and lost in Summary Judgment again. That is what got him a spot of honor on the Harvard Law Site.
Darnell v. Dobrott | Citizen Media Law Project
With these two cases Pierce will have two lovely pages on the Harvard site!
Soapboxmom”
WINNER!! ::   +9
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Dasher Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 1:45 am
@Jack, :)
Pierce has put up a lot of garbage sites, making it more difficult for real people to find legitimate third party comments about him. It will take the effort of a lot of us to break through all that smokescreen.
There is also a mountain of YouTube videos that can be commented on, and that’s where everyone here can really help. Just search for “Stephen Pierce” and “Stephen Pierce International” and comment away.
I’ve seen a few other people’s comments about this here and there (Jack, Lanna, Alley-Cat!). But so far, it really looks like most readers here are just assuming that others will carry the ball. If any of this matters to or concerns you, and if you believe in this blog’s mission and purpose, please do something now to help. Instead of assuming others will do it, assume that they won’t (cause they won’t!), and take action accordingly.
WINNER!! ::   +12
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Head Honcho Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 8:38 am
@Dasher, Most people everywhere feel very strongly that most OTHER people will take care of most every problem. It’s human nature. What we all need to do is realize this and move ahead anyway. Eventually, when enough are posting and spreading the word, more will join until it starts looking just — stupid — not to.
We should also maybe try framing it the way the scammers would — in reverse.
“Lost Money to Stephen Pierce’s Scams? You could GET IT BACK — here’s how…”
Maybe we should publish an e-book and “course” on getting your money back from scammer Pierce — and it just walks them through the process of joining the suite.
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Dasher Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
@Head Honcho,
“We should also maybe try framing it the way the scammers would — in reverse.
“Lost Money to Stephen Pierce’s Scams? You could GET IT BACK — here’s how…””
Nope. We shouldn’t do that. Why? Because comments like that will be looked at as spam and removed from many places.
I am speaking from “right now” experience. Even many straight-forward comments are being removed as “advertising.”
Keep it informational and matter-of-fact or it won’t stick.
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Head Honcho Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
@Dasher, Sorry for the confusion. Sarcasm was *on.* Enthusiasm got the best of me.
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Dasher Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
@Head Honcho, No problem.
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Joe Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
@Jack, Scambook just removed all the comments and links to the attorney’s website on each of those complaints. WTF? Anyone want to add some new replacements?
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 11:07 am
@Joe, In ScamBook-About-Us, there’s what seems like pretend reasons here about some bidding process that is nowhere found on the site at all:
“Through this system, any company or attorney who thinks they can help you with your problem must bid on the right to do so. In addition to reviewing what relief those persons or entities are willing to provide you, the bidding process allows us to determine who is most motivated to resolve your problem. This system also gives companies and attorneys a big incentive to provide you strong relief as soon as possible.”
More likely, the links cut into the ScamBook protection-racket-monetization-model.
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Lou Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
@Jack, Where can we report Scambook? It’s like the Ripoff Ripoff Report on steroids!
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
@Lou, Hmm. Protection-racket RipoffReport was reported to fake-accredited protection-racket Consumer Affairs. So maybe protection-racket ScamBook can go onto protection racket RipoffReport?
Or maybe Crystal Cox will take care of it in her own way and put up some site like scambookisascamandalsoitsnotabookitsawebsite.com
Also, ConsumerAffairs has to go onto ScamBook I guess, too.
And then all of them can go onto protection-racket BBB.
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Jack Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 4:00 pm
@Lou, Somebody went onto report Scambook to RipoffReport:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/websites/scambook/scambook-scambook-com-scamboo-d1324.htm – although my guess about it is being probably a “we’re still not facebook” case.
Other news also:
Ripoffreport answers to getting reported on ScamBook:
http://www.scambook.com/profile/view/49804/Ripoff_Report_WC
BBB gives BadBusinessBureau.com – aka-redirects-to: RipoffReport.com F-rating
http://bit.ly/HXBT8R
BBB gives ScamBook no-rating:
http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/internet-web-hosting/scambook-in-chicago-il-88489947
BBB also found out about that RipoffReport is website for local water company:
http://bit.ly/IDxXPE
& for Orchard Bankcard Services in NJ:
http://bit.ly/IKPxme
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SCAMBOOK - For the Record Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 5:55 pm
“Scambook LLC” has a maildrop pretend office at 980 North Michigan Avenue, Suite 1400, Chicago, Illinois 60611.
The LLC has the following registered members, in this order:
KINZE STREET ENTERPRISES, LLC 875 N. MICHIGAN AVE. 31ST FL., CHICAGO, IL – 60611
May be a “typo” (yeah), as only KINZIE STREET ENTERPRISES, LLC is registered in Illinois, to:
EDELSON, JAY 350 N. LASALLE ST. STE. 1300, CHICAGO, IL – 60654
http://www.edelson.com/lawyers/#Jay_Edelson <–Lawyer
SHABOOM MEDIA LLC 401 N. MICHIGAN AVE. STE 1200, CHICAGO, IL – 60611
Shaboom Media LLC registered members:
MIAO, LIN 10 HIGH ST. STE. 900, BOSTON, MA – 02111
http://www.linkedin.com/in/linmiao
BACHMAN, ANDREW 10 HIGH ST. STE. 900, BOSTON, MA – 02111
http://andrewbachman.tv
SYKES, TIMOTHY 900 MIX AVE. UNIT 22, HAMDEN, CT – 06514
http://www.timothysykes.com <–take a whiff of this!
MABANTA, JUSTIN 1712 RAVANUSA DR., HENDERSON, NV – 89502
ROBERT E. DICKY CHILDREN'S IRREVOCABLE TRUST 7716 DEPOT RD. #1, LISBON, OH – 44432
SEVA HOLDINGS GROUP, LTD. WILMA HOUSE, HIBISCUS SQ. 2D F, TURKS & CAICOS, NA – 00000
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@SCAMBOOK – For the Record, Now people can report the Martin Edelson Boardroom pubs to the Jay Edelson-lawyered Scambook. Better yet if they could be related.
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
@SCAMBOOK – For the Record, Here’s J.Ed
I’ve wondered now if the “other emerging areas of business” he tells us at 30″-40″ include rep-protection management-rackets.
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:00 pm
No kiddin’ – some slime doggy like him will fuck it up for Groupon. I loves mah Groupons. Figures he’s part of the legal mafia.
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
@Jack, According to Alexa-charts all SD has to do is start protection-racketing and he can speak at the WhiteHouse soon:

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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
@SCAMBOOK – For the Record, OMFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFG!

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Lou Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
@Jack, Wow. I think I am going to throw up. The White House is really fucked up if the staff there can’t spend a lousy 5 minutes googling. Hell, they have the CIA, the FBI, etc.! Just wow.
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Jack Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
@SCAMBOOK – For the Record, I whiffed up at the TimothySykes.com site and found out about the idea of making profits from crime where he told me about:
“And remember we don’t want to shut these criminals down, their lack of ethics and intelligence makes them predictable and that means profits for you and me (if you understand the rules of the game). My subscribers and I have profited $13,000+ so far on this stock.”
But it’s OK for us to make the big money from it, because probably no consumers get hurt in the pump-and-dumps and also they can just report them to ScamBook if they get mad about getting crime-tricked.
I’m not sure though if the tricky-crime-play works for getting $100K in 7 months like I found out about from somebody who only goes by the name RL here but I think everybody can do it because I didn’t see the FTC generally-expected results idea there on the page so I think it has to mean we can all do it, too.
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Jack Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
@SCAMBOOK – For the Record,
These 3 make a cute couple:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/linmiao
http://www.linkedin.com/company/tatto-media?trk=ppro_cprof
http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/95040/
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Jack Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 9:50 pm
@Jack, Original WA Ag complaint – State Of Washington Vs. Tatto Media…
…Washington AG made a nice picture-book from the Tatto Media marketing-scam-campaign.
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Jack Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@SCAMBOOK – For the Record, Class Action aganst WOZO LLC, TATTO, INC. and ADKNOWLEDGE, INC.,
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Lanna Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 12:17 am
@Jack,
My comments on Scambook were also deleted. Weirdly, comments on my comments were left standing. I did receive this email from Scambook which may shed some light on their decision to delete posts referring directly to Chamblee Ryan:
Scambook beta
Dear Lanna,
Thanks for registering at ScamBook.com! It’s time for us to join forces and spread the word about current scams. Together, we can make these scammers pay for all of the monetary damages that they have caused. Share your stories and get support for your case.
How ScamBook works:
If you have ever been a victim of a scam, you can file a report with us. Remember to be as accurate as possible and provide as much details that you can.
As soon as your post is published, send in evidence to show that the scam is real. When it comes to the law, concrete proof is required!
Share your story through Facebook and Twitter (or other sites). Once you do that, other people who have also been scammed by the same culprit will be more willing to come forward and report their story as well. Your case will gain support which will capture the attention of the reputable lawyers who are members of ScamBook. If you case is chosen, the lawyers will file civil suits against the scammer for justice and monetary damages.
As a registered member, you can also help other get justice by supporting their cases. This can be done by simply commenting on their case and/or sharing a story of a similar occurrence.
ScamBook does not tolerate any false reports or allow any defamation, slander, or libel. You will be held liable for what you post on the site.
We are glad you have chosen to be a part of our community and we hope you enjoy your stay.
All the best,
ScamBook.com
That makes me think they’re not a protection racket like Ripoff Report or BBB or Crystal Castles Cox, but it’s a way for them to create and qualify inbound leads for class action suits.
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Jack Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:16 am
@Lanna, Part still troubling is:
https://www.scambook.com/business
“Once a complaint is resolved, the complaint will no longer be visible on the Scambook website. Learn More
All resolved complaints will be treated with a “Resolved Complaint” title, allowing search engines and other consumers know that you took the effort for customer satisfaction. Resolved complaints will no longer show up with a damage amount that adds to your Group Page (if applicable).”
Here’s a great scenario for scam-companies that use scammy low-cost lead-gen bizop-programs bait to Utah Boiler rooms:
1. Resolve the scam complaints – only some small % will file complaints so nothing can show in ScamBook.
2. Keep the scam going…and going…
Other sites might show-complaints, but my guess is eventually may people will start using ScamBook like they trust-and-go to the BBB as their be-all source. At least BBB keeps the complaint history.
Wonder if Attorneys get access to closed complaints when the aren’t visible after resolving?
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Jack Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
@Lanna, See some new comments I made below “SCAMBOOK – For the Record” comment…it starts getting so much more weird my head needs a break for a while.
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Phil Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
@Lanna, Yeah, it sounds like Scambook is really just trying to drum up attorney business. I wonder what “reputable” attorney “members” they are referring to. Actually, no, I don’t, looking at their ownership list.
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Wyrd Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 9:58 am
@Joe,
So Scambook is also a scam? I haven’t been able to find a salty droid article on it so far.
Is there any fraud reporting site that isn’t a fraud?
Well I guess there’s http://saltydroid.info
Is there a second?
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 10:16 am
@Wyrd, Lynn Edgington of Eagle Research Associates, who has commented on this thread, has been fighting fraud for years, and he means business.
http://eagleresearchassociates.org/
I hope his participation here earns him a lot more exposure for his site.
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Dale Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 12:12 pm
@Cosmic Connie, I’m sure you unintentionally added your comment to this portion of the comment thread. I don’t believe Lynn has any connection whatsoever to the scammy Scambook website.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
@Dale, Actually, I was answering @Wyrd’s question, which was:
==BEGIN QUOTE:==
Is there any fraud reporting site that isn’t a fraud?
{Well I guess there’s http://saltydroid.info
Is there a second?
==END QUOTE==
My intention was to point out Lynn Edgington and his Eagle Research site as a fraud reporting site that is NOT a fraud. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear.
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Dale Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@Cosmic Connie, Gotcha CC. I hadn’t caught that. It was great learning about Lynn’s work though.
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Jack Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
@Cosmic Connie, The People Vs. Stephen Pierce at Eagle Research Associates
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Lynndel "Lynn" Edgington Reply:
April 12th, 2012 at 3:35 pm
@Jack,
Thanks for posting the link to our article about this legal action.
If anyone knows of any victims from the UK, please contact me. I will need their name(s). If there are any victims from the UK, I can get a story in one of the London papers.
Thanks,
Lynn
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former employee Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 10:51 am
@Wyrd, Scambook has several true stories about Stephen Pierce on their site and also allowed the statement about the lawsuit. You have to open one of the complaints and scroll to the bottom under comments, but it is there. Proud of em’ I am!
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Dale Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
@Wyrd, Scambook is just another slimy Ripoff Report ripoff.
They cultivate new complaints, then they have a PAID “program” to “help” businesses get rid of them. In other words, if you have a business, they create a new problem you didn’t have before, then they charge you to fix it.
If you look on their “services” page, they show how they will PREVENT new complaints if you PAY THEM. They actually call it “complaint PREVENTION.”
So if you’ve got the money, “problem” solved. In the big picture, they are a part of the problem.
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Dale Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
@Wyrd, I should also add that Scambook deleted every last one of my numerous comments about the lawsuit. So anybody that sees a vacant spot over there, please slip another one in.
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a mouse Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
@Dale, They are still there. Search on Stephen Pierce and scroll to the bottom under comments.
Search results for “stephen pierce”
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Stephen Pierce International – False Advertising for $25000.00 on 03/24/2008
Posted Apr 3rd, 2012
In March 2008, I purchased a program called the Product Creation Lab (PCL) from Stephen Pierce at a live event in Australia for a total of US$20,000 and so far, he has delivered only a minute fraction…
Stephen Pierce Interational – Other for $10000.00 on 11/07/2010
Posted Nov 3rd, 2011
To Whom it May Concern: Stephen Pierce is a very charismatic fellow whom presents a well-crafted albeit fundamentally flawed, for participants, workshop. The fatal flaw, which will eventually be…
Stephen Pierce International – Other for $10000.00 on 11/07/2010
Posted Nov 3rd, 2011
To Whom it May Concern: Stephen Pierce is a very charismatic fellow whom presents a well-crafted albeit fundamentally flawed, for participants, workshop. The fatal flaw, which will eventually be…
Stephen Pierce Internet Income Workshops – False Advertising for $5000.00 on 03/22/2011
Posted Nov 13th, 2011
I had a very bad experience and was so genuinely disappointed because Stephen Pierce came across as a truly great man on stage at Get Motivated and I signed up for the three days workshop that Get…
Stephen Pierce International – False Advertising for $2000.00 on 04/08/2011
Posted Apr 6th, 2012
I originally heard of stephen pierce shortly before attending his MRMI (make real money on the internet) in early april of 2011. After being laid off from my job and having spent a number of months…
Stephen Pierce International or DBA Impulsive Profits – False Advertising for $20000.00 on 09/01/2011
Posted Mar 5th, 2012
I purchased a product and service package from Stephen Pierce International. He was supposed work with me directly to create a product to sell online and supply all the marketing materials and promote…
Stephen Pierce International – False Advertising for $10.00 on 02/18/2011
Posted Aug 31st, 2011
I was sold a product that did not exist and when it finally arrived it did not meet the description of what I bought. Then the seller provided no service. When I asked for a refund,I was given the run…
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Stephen Pierce Class Action Lawsuit Pending Stephen Pierce, along with Pierce’s affiliated companies and individuals, is about to be sued in a class action. Dallas Attorney Alan Rosenberg is…
Stephen Pierce Class Action Lawsuit Pending Stephen Pierce, along with Pierce’s affiliated companies and individuals, is about to be sued in a class action. Dallas Attorney Alan Rosenberg is…
Stephen Pierce Class Action Lawsuit Pending Stephen Pierce, along with Pierce’s affiliated companies and individuals, is about to be sued in a class action. Dallas Attorney Alan Rosenberg is…
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Dale Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
@a mouse, Actually, no, my comments were in fact those matching comments, the ones they normally add to the blue area after each regular comment. The index shows a smidgen of the comment:
“Stephen Pierce Class Action Lawsuit Pending Stephen Pierce, along with Pierce’s affiliated companies and individuals, is about to be sued in a class action. Dallas Attorney Alan Rosenberg is…”
But if you click on the links in that index, the actual full comment is no longer there.
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a mouse Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:11 am
@Dale, Damn you are right. They are gone.
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Jack Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:27 pm
@Wyrd, http://www.realscam.com isn’t a scam. Gov-wise, http://econsumer.gov/ gives links to gov-complaint-filing agencies for following countries:
Australia, Belgium, Canada, Costa Rica, Chile, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Egypt, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States
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# 6 April 2012 at 12:29 am

Spike said:
Well I’ve set up my first ever tweeter account and have been happily tweeting,or is it twittering?, my Stephen Pierce pages out there. I even asked Stephen if he was a con man (dunno if that’s the way you do it).
I have no fucking clue what I’m doing to be honest and the account will probably be removed or something. I’ve even picked up a follower, but it looks like it came from one of those auto-follow apps.
My account has apparently been removed from the so-called “Warrior” forum so I can’t post there. I’ve been thinking about using one of my websites to talk about the Warrior Forum for months, perhaps it’s time to “take action” ;). I normally write about keeping small pets so it’s going to be bit of a leap.
I’m going to spend the afternoon commenting on his youtube clips. I’m the guy with the helicopter :)
WINNER!! ::   +9
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voice of the voiceless Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:49 am
@Spike, This is perfect! I don’t think it is that easy to get truth removed unless the target rolls over.
All the rest of youse guys, if you can’t tweet yourself go on fiverr and pay someone $5 to tweet out the message and http://www.saltydroid.info or http://www.alley-cat.info. I paid $5 bucks and the story is REAL, Vorys lawyers, so settle back down into your leather chairs and sip your Starbucks.
No action needed. Thank you very much. NO!on second thought, YOU CAN take some USEFUL action. Tell Stephen Pierce of Make Real Money on the Internet fame to drop all lawsuits and clean up his cage… IT stinks to high heaven and his own smell is wafting out over the Internet like a dark cloud.
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Spike Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
@voice of the voiceless, It’s been a fun afternoon. Me, in my guise as DerPfaffe and AdolescentGorilla (who are you on here?) have been commenting all over Stephen Pierce on Youtube. I think it’s around 70 or 80 comments.
I’ve even got 5 followers on Twitter WOOO HOO! Also been retweeting Pierce related tweets from other guys that comment on this site. (Connie, Ryan and Yakaru spring to mind).
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anonymous Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
@Spike, ALLEY-CAT HAS SOME DEAD LINKS ON HIS LAST POST ABOUT STEPHEN PIERCE SO IF ANYONE CAN GET TO HIM, PLEASE DO. YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB!!
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# 6 April 2012 at 6:15 am

former employee said:
stephen pierce spent $11,000 (eleven thousand plus) for 1 week banging the Get Motivated student. Stephen told his wife if she didn’t give him the house in Whitney TX he will sue her and her family. That bullet in his leg he keeps talking about…wrong. he scam the drug dealer money and they shot him and left him in the gutter thinking he was dead. More to come
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# 6 April 2012 at 7:14 am

Anonymous said:
Would just like to state that since visiting this site by Salty Droid for the past 3 years, I’ve been able to see more and more clearly how these people are scammers. This website has been an immense learning lesson in detecting the underlying patterns these people use to hook you in emotionally. Been connecting the dots and when you take away their names or the details, you see the same cookie-cutter methods used over and over. Thank you everyone for making this site what it is today. If it weren’t for this site, I would have continued spending thousands of dollars on products and seminars, thinking that I must have done something wrong, or that the next product would be “the one” to make my dreams come true. If it weren’t for this site, I probably would be like so many of those who’ve spent 20k or even 60k on these scams.
Just incase there are any comments from the peanut gallery about having to work hard, I worked my ass off to try to put this stuff together. Spent over 8 k and only made back about 1500 in a three year period. I could have gotten back much more, but I just couldn’t bring myself to pressure people to charge out their last credit card , paying me instead of paying their mortgage, with risk of being put out on the street – for something I knew was not going to bring them what they had hoped for. I was told I sucked at selling because of that and even made fun of. Then, those very same people turned around and offered me another product or course for me to buy. Looks like these Vultures and Vampires are now getting what they’ve got coming. Thank you Salty Droid and commenters.
WINNER!! ::   +15
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Wyrd Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 11:45 am
@,
I’m glad to hear that things are turning around for you. (By NOT continuing to spend money on these sharks.)
If you happen to have a Warrior Forum account, now would be a great time to write a post spreading the word about the lawsuit against Stephen Pierce International and how anyone scammed by Mr. Pierce can participate in the lawsuit by emailing arosenberg_AT_chambleeryan.com .
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
@Anonymous ::
That’s just what’s so fucked about that “you didn’t try” cop out these bastards pre-seed in every sales letter.
try = be more willing to hurt people
Most people just aren’t willing … because of humanity not laziness.
If you pawn your soul it’s really expensive to buy it back … glad you didn’t.
PS :: you’re welcome!
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Wyrd Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
@SD,
If you pawn your soul it’s really expensive to buy it back … glad you didn’t.
Exactly.
For my part, I never directly gave money to the IM-MMO crowd, but I was softened to their general message from the door-to-door sales I had done for the Southwestern Co when I was in college.
Whenever I try to explain what it was like–the door to door sales–the only way I can express it is to say that getting really good at it would have cost me my soul.
And I don’t even actually believe in any literal soul. But that’s the only language I can use the accurately expresses what it felt like.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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# 6 April 2012 at 7:21 am

Spike said:
Now this makes me sad and it is why we need spread the word:
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huh Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:35 am
@Spike, umm ok . first, that is a probably a Prosper coach she was talking to on the phone because stephen doesnt have any employees, he fired them or they quit (over 20 of them) and they sure aren’t calling to check on people – unless they are paying like 5k or more to Prosper. hope she can sell a bunch of those ornaments!
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Lanna Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:57 am
@huh,
No, she’s not selling the ornaments. She’s going to sell the video to teach you how to put the roses on the ornaments. Also, as a super extra bonus you’ll learn how to paint the leaves, too.
It will be just like this, except you’ll have to pay $37.77 to watch it:
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Wyrd Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 11:49 am
@Lanna,
The rose ornament thing looks pretty. But if they think I’m gonna spend N hours painting the thing or $X to buy the thing, they’re crazy. I’m so glad there’s a fast forward button.
I guess I’m not in their target demographic.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Spike Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
@Wyrd, The thing is we all know nobody is going to pay money to watch a video about painting Christmas ornaments.
What these evil fuckers have done is to convince this lady that she can turn her little hobby into a dollar making Internet niche business. While they were doing that they probably emptied her credit card and savings account.
This video shows the reality of who these sociopaths are targeting.
I spent the afternoon commenting on tens of videos just like this in the hope that if the makers of the videos had been ripped off by Stephen Pierce, they might read the comment and know that they weren’t alone and could do something about it.
WINNER!! ::   +12
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@Spike ::
Yep!
And good plan … that’s an effective tactic on several fronts simultaneously.

ex employee Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
@Lanna, Stephen Pierce doesn’t tell you that he made his millions selling dreams of internet wealth, which has a much wider audience than hand-painted roses. Same process, sure, but no comparison in the outcome. He also doesn’t tell you that most of that money comes from doing 2 workshops a month shored up by professional salesmen in the back of the room.
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
@Spike ::
God that is sad … lord have mercy.
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Barbara Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 5:18 pm
@SD,
Damn it…I fell asleep right after “Now Highlights Will Be Applied” so I have no idea how it came out.
Did anyone else see the profile of a young girl in one of the roses? Or have I finally watched one Youtube video too many….
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# 6 April 2012 at 7:23 am

Ross Jeffries said:
@SD Heroic. Smash pierce. I’ve got a big social media network and will put the word out.
RJ
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# 6 April 2012 at 9:27 am

Syndicate H8r said:
Now this is what I’m talking about…
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# 6 April 2012 at 11:53 am

Hell Gnomes said:
Wait, isn’t this the same guy that Mike Filsaime referred to as “the guru to the guru to the guru” (from the gnome’s introduction to Pierce in his 7 Figure Code frauduct)?
Just checking. Because if this is what Gnome and Co aspire to be, but are not competent scammers enough to be, then that’s pretty sad. Not sad in a “I really feel for you” way like the way the victims of Nipple Pierce and the Gnome are sad. More sad in an “I’m amused but don’t want to admit it” way like the way a Down’s Syndrome kid trying to pick up on a slightly ugly fake supermodel (and failing) is sad.
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# 6 April 2012 at 3:09 pm

Hell Gnomes said:
Gnome, didn’t anyone tell you the “never go full retard” rule?
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# 6 April 2012 at 3:11 pm

Shit Storm said:
You Big Balled Robot,
Can I run media ads all over the net asking if anyone has been harmed by Stephen pierce?
and if so can I give the lawyers url?
Lets just say I have a pocket full of dough…the fucking know how and a hatred for these thieves
What’s the best course of action?
I understand if you cannot answer…direct me to the person who can
Stephen I am coming for you motherfucker…I might even throw some serious cash at the lawyers to help them find plaintiffs
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SD Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
@Shit Storm ::
Awesome.
I’d say the ads should direct people back here … we’re keeping the lawyers isolated from our PR spree.
They’ll do the lawyering … we’ll do the screaming.
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Syndicate H8r Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
@SD, @Shit Storm,
Dude, you rock, I support you campaign.
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Shit Storm Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
@SD,
I’m taking requests for the banners
Something simple like:
Has Stephen Pierce ripped you off? Learn more
or
Join the Stephen Pierce Class Action Lawsuit Today
Anybody have any suggestions for the banner copy?
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Wyrd Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
@Shit Storm,
I don’t have direct banner ideas, but I just wanted to note that it’s heart warming to see marketing techniques put to a worthy cause (for a change)
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
P.S. For some reason, the final punchline form The F-word.wav comes to mind: “or as almost every word in the sentence as in: `Fuck the fucking fuckers.’”
So maybe something along those lines for the copy?
Like `Fuck the fucking fucker Stephen Pierce.’ ?
“I’m just spit-ballin’ here.”
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Lanna Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
@Shit Storm,
I’d try putting the verb up front and using a stronger CTA. Can you split test stronger and gentler ones? And saying lawsuit versus “take action” or “learn more”? Can we add a headshot of Pierce himself?
Ripped Off by Stephen Pierce?
Take Action Now!
Scammed by Stephen Pierce?
Take Action Now!
Where’s Your Refund from Stephen Pierce?!
Learn about Your Legal Options Now!
Customers, Employees and Affiliates
of Stephen Pierce
Learn about this important legal action!
Bad Buying Experience with Stephen Pierce?
You’re not alone. Learn about your legal options
We better check with Legal about the Class Action bit. I think it may be too early to call it that. Plus, my understanding of a class action lawsuit is that only a few of the members of the class have to appear in court, but the whole class reaps the benefits. So that seems like a big invitation to do nothing and wait for a check to appear in a few years.
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ANONYMOUS Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 12:24 am
@Lanna, I think this one is intentionally NOT defined as Class Action
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SD Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
@Lanna ::
Yeah it’s not really a class action until it’s certified as so … and that need not necessarily happen. So at the moment “class action” is technically incorrect.
However :: that legal distinction means nothing to most normal people … and “class action” is the common shorthand for big group lawsuits … so I don’t think it matters much either way.
Having never purchased a single click :: I don’t exactly know what y’all are talking about with banners and whatnot. But I do have these two points …
1) Funny is almost always better than not funny.
2) Whatever the circumstance … don’t breach the TOS.
Funny and within the rules == hooray!
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Earl Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 11:12 pm
@Shit Storm, Here’s mine:
Fucked Over By Stephen Pierce?
Don’t Put Up With That Shit!
Stephen Pierce Victims Unite
Don’t Let Pierce Spend Your Money Tonight!
Stephen Pierce Won’t Make You Rich
He Just Wants To Make Your MasterCard His Bitch
Stephen Pierce Won’t Refund Your Money?
Now You Can Sue His Ass Until It Ain’t Even Funny
Stephen Fucking Pierce – Need We Say More? You Bet We Can!
Sue Stephen Pierce For FREE – Limited Time Offer
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Anonymous Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
@Earl, Fucking hilarious!!!
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Yakaru Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:00 am
@Earl,
“Sue Stephen Pierce For FREE – Limited Time Offer”
FTW!
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Head Honcho Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 8:02 am
@Earl, Some of those are really good. Others hilarious. Personally, I think all the “Fuck Stephen Pierce in the A-Hole” ads, while certainly fun, would not wind up on many sites, given that some people don’t take to the language.
I’d still print ‘em out and tape them around my monitor, though. :)
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Anonymous Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
@Earl,
I cant use swear words in the ads or they will not be picked up
Stephen Pierce Class Action Lawsuit
Learn more
get Refund On Make Money Scams Today
Don’t worry we will split test all sorts of ideas till we get the highest CTR
Salty I will run rather large banners but unlike Stephan Pierce I actually something about the internet
These ads will not be run of network where we shows this to total strangers
I am running the ads exclusively to internet marketers
What’s that Stephen Pierce?…how do you run banners where you just show them to people in the internet marketing world?
MUCH easier than you can imagine
the ONLY people seeing these ads are people who are full blown into internet marketing
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Earl Reply:
April 10th, 2012 at 3:12 am
@, I know, that was just some levity for the regulars. I’ve actually kissed a sad goodbye to well over 7 figures in PPC spend myself over the years, although it was all non-MMO and (mostly) swear-free.
What are you planning to use for the landing page?
If you’re buying IM views, I’d lean on the expectation that most in that category will have heard the name. A large, unexpected headline incorporating his name will grab a fair number; add a smaller tabloid-esque sub to snag the mildly indifferent and motivate a few more worthwhile clicks.
Don’t run vague adds like “Refund on Make Money Scams.” It’s wasted clicks. Keep the name Stephen Pierce prominent and test out from there.
Also, conserve words – if you’re running banners, less unneeded words means more space for bigger, bolder headlines that stand out more.
Instead of:
Stephen Pierce Class Action Lawsuit
Try this text, in a much larger, more commanding font size:
Stephen Pierce Lawsuit
Perhaps even rotate in and test slight variants like:
Stephen Pierce Sued
For the tabloid-esque sub, be bold and try whatever the networks will let fly. Be loose with it. For example:
Stephen Pierce Lawsuit [much larger font]
Getting his pants sued off! [smaller sub]
Stephen Pierce Lawsuit
Did he rip you off too?
Stephen Pierce Lawsuit
How many victims do you know?
Stephen Pierce Lawsuit
Get broke the Stephen Pierce way!
My gut tells me that last one hits it, but I’d still test against even my own preferences.
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Former employee Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
@Shit Storm, I like “Sue Stephen pierce while he still has some money!
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Jack Reply:
April 6th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
@Shit Storm, “a hatred for these thieves”. Really? Never would have guessed. Rock and roll, SS!
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# 6 April 2012 at 4:32 pm

Wordster Wanted said:
Speaking of P.R., there are free press release distribution sites out there.
I am positive that someone here knows how to do a press release.
If you’ve never done one, don’t. They require a specific format and style, and need to read as “news” and not propaganda. Don’t submit is as though it were coming from the attorney, either, although you can certainly include his name and the contact info in the actual content. If it asks to fill in an organization name, you can call yourself something like, “Consumer Advocates” or the like.
A quick Google of “free press release distribution” or “free press release” shows many options.
This could really help get the word out!
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Lanna Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:01 pm
@Wordster Wanted,
A press release has become set up here:
http://droidconsumeradvocates.org/
I haven’t posted it on any of the free press release distribution sites, so everybody have at it. (I did reactivate my Facebook and post wherever Facebook login worked.)
What else should we do with that domain? Everybody’s always all like, “There’s great info on SD but I can’t email/like/tweet something that tells readers, ‘You suck a bag of cat bollocks.’” So now there’s another place. What do you want it to say?
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
@Lanna, That’s a very good start, and with a few tweaks it should be fit for the press release distribution sites. @Wordster Wanted had a good point about the writing style for press releases. The release is formatted fine, but as it is it now, some parts of it read more like an opinion piece. Opinions, and even “emotional” words such as “Sadly,” are fine if you’re quoting or paraphrasing a named individual or advocacy group (and you do paraphrase some consumer complaints), but the copy itself has to be more dispassionate. More than likely it wouldn’t be appropriate to try to get a quotation from the attorney(s), though it might be appropriate to get a (G-rated) quotation from, say, a certain Jason Jones…
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
And re my comment above: I’m not just trying to be a backseat driver and tell everyone how to do stuff while I’m sitting on my own behind. I intend jump in on this project too (including a profanity-free blog post of my own); I am just a little distracted with work deadlines for the next couple of days. I have tweeted about the lawsuit and mentioned it on my own Facebook page, but I know that’s not nearly enough. One of the things I do in my “day job” is write press releases (often gearing them to journos who may want to turn them into feature articles), so I think I can prolly help out with this.
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Lanna Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
@Cosmic Connie,
I can’t take credit for this press release – and neither can the person who actually wrote it. It’s not perfect, but it’s complete. I want to put together a well-researched, full-page exposé that a newspaper couldn’t resist. Maybe I can do the research and you can write it? I’m not gonna make it to the library today, but maybe tomorrow.
@anonymous
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-6262e236.html
@Martypants
I will.
@Yakaru
I think you are already signed up!
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anonymous Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
@Lanna, WOW! I need a .pdf copy for email. Got one?
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Martypants Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
@Lanna, I am happy to help you build the site out…give me a nod off-site.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Yay Marty! Take him up on the offer, @Lanna; the man knows his stuff.
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Domina Reply:
February 26th, 2013 at 3:47 am
@Cosmic Connie, Are you the poster who follows the lawsuits in Dallas County? Someone sued Stephen Pierce, Stephen Pierce International, or Impulsive Profits in Dallas County but I can’t find the reference to it. Can you? He is still suing his former wife and employees in Collin County.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
February 26th, 2013 at 10:51 am
@Domina, I apologize, but I haven’t been following the Pierce lawsuits very closely in recent months. I am in Texas but not in that county. Maybe the little robot has info about the latest lawsuit stuff. Good luck!
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Yakaru Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
@Lanna,
“Droid Consumer Advocates Group” is a great idea. Where do I sign up?!!! (Seriously!)
Press release might be improved by mentioning one or two specific cases with names & details of undelivered services. (I don’t anything about this kind of thing, so that might be dumb. Great that you’ve got the ball rolling!)
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Wordster Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
@Lanna, Good effort and great initiative! I’d suggest removing the Droid references as you currently have them, and just make the blog a resource link. Otherwise, it is a distraction that begs for an explanation, and it might make it look like a spoof to the uninitiated.
I guess I’ll also fess up and admit I was once a broadcast reporter in my younger years.
Here’s what might have resonated with me back in the day:
F-rated “Get Rich Quick” Business Operator and Motivational Speaker Stephen Pierce Sues Victims of His Alleged Scams
“Get rich quick” motivational speaker Stephen Pierce (“I’ve got a bus with my face on it”), who claims to be raking in millions from what some are calling scams – and who has a lengthy criminal history, government action against him, and no high school diploma – has begun suing his alleged scam victims in order to silence their complaints, according to both a consumer advocate and an attorney.
Pierce’s alleged victims, some of whom have lost tens of thousands of dollars – had begun speaking out. Pierce responded by repeatedly suing for defamation, and after already having handed over their money to Pierce, many of the targets of Pierce’s lawsuits no longer had the money to defend themselves.
Calling it a “Shocking victimizing of the victim,” Chicago consumer advocate and editor of the popular anti-scam website “Salty Droid,” Jason Jones, stepped in to help organize assistance for the numerous individuals he felt had been victimized by Pierce.
Dallas attorney Alan Rosenberg has also offered to represent alleged Pierce victims on a contingency basis in a soon-to-be-filed lawsuit against Stephen Pierce and Pierce’s company, Stephen Pierce International, as well as Pierce’s affiliated entities and individuals.
The alleged victims represent all ages, every walk of life, several continents, and potentially number in the thousands. Most have one thing in common: few can afford the thousands of dollars many have claimed they each lost to Pierce.
Pierce has an “F” rating with the Better Business Bureau (BBB), the lowest possible rating. Complaints have been substantial enough that the BBB has also published an advisory about Pierce and his operation.
Anyone who believes they were a victim of Stephen Pierce, or knows someone who might be, is advised to immediately contact Dallas Attorney Alan Rosenberg with the law firm of Chamblee, Ryan, Kershaw & Anderson, P.C. at 1-214-905-2003 or 1-888-905-2003. There is no out-of-pocket cost to victims for representation, and it does not matter where they live.
For more information:
Jason Jones, consumer advocate and editor of http://www.saltydroid.info (Chicago, IL): saltydroid@gmail.com
Victim Legal Assistance (Stephen Pierce/Stephen Pierce International lawsuit):
Attorney Alan Rosenberg (Dallas, TX): 1-214-905-2003 or 1-888-905-2003 or arosenberg@chambleeryan.com.
Better Business Bureau Advisory:
http://www.dallas.bbb.org/article/internet-business-hopefuls-complain-on-stephen-pierce-international-27414
Salty Droid consumer advocacy website, article:
http://saltydroid.info/vorys-sater-seymour-and-pease-attorneys-at-scam/
Extensive summary and cross-references to other sources:
http://www.realscam.com/f11/people-vs-stephen-pierce-1189/
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Jack Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
@Lanna, Awesome that you did it. Not sure about “Pierce has always been a minor player on that stage” – maybe it’s true, but in a way could make the class-action seem less interesting/intriguing for other reporters who might think to pick it up.
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Lanna Reply:
April 10th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
DroidConsumerAdvocates.org is being redirected to its new home, so it’s gonna be unavailable for a quick minute.
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Spike Reply:
April 12th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
@Lanna, Only just seen this. It looks great to me. Good job.
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# 6 April 2012 at 5:16 pm

former employee said:
stephen pierce told 2 former employees if they didn’t help him “HANG” his wife and another employee he will sue them….he sued them
Jury trial All those women on the stand looking at the ghetto rat.
Come on former employees LET IT OUT tell Uncle Salty all of it.
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ANONYMOUS Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 12:33 am
@former employee, WOW!@&!! WHAT NOW?#?$?
ARE YOU SAYING THAT STEPHEN PIERCE AND VORYS HAVE NOW SUED MORE PEOPLE? FORMER EMPLOYEES? YOU GUYS NEED TO CONTACT EVERY SINGLE FORMER EMPLOYEE AND GET THEM TO READ THESE POSTS.
CAN’T YOU GO TO THE POLICE AS A GROUP? TELL THEM THAT IF THEY WON’T PROTECT YOU, YOU ARE GOING TO THE PRESS. STICK TOGETHER. A JUDGE WILL SMELL THIS RAT…
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# 6 April 2012 at 6:15 pm

Paging Ryan Healy said:
Where is our Ryan Healy? Yo, Ryan Healy! You got your google alert up?! ‘Course you do… Hey, this would be a good story for your bloggity blog, Mr. H.
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 10:44 am
@Paging Ryan Healy, Cash Flow Lawsuits Idiots – posted 4/6/2012.
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SD Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
@Paging Ryan Healy ::
Ryan was faster than your paging … that’s why nobody uses pagers anymore.
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Paging Ryan Healy Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Well, butter my britches, or something like that. Ryan’s gots it going on!
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Ryan Healy Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
@Paging Ryan Healy, Just seeing this now. I thought the story needed to be promoted, so I blogged about it on Friday as Jack mentioned. (Thanks, Jack!)
I also shared the story on Twitter.
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# 7 April 2012 at 12:56 am

Lynndel "Lynn" Edgington said:
Salty:
There is now a thread devoted to this lawsuit against Stephen Pierce at Real Scam. I have also contacted some of my friends in Australia to let them know about it, and they are going to get the word out over there to contact Alan Rosenberg. But for all of you here, here is the dirt that was posted at Real Scam and it is a boatload:
Stephen Pierce Internet Income (Previous Convictions)
You can find information here about Stephen Pierce previous conviction for Internet Fraud or you can read it below.
Release: 4739-03 (CFTC Docket No. 02-15)
For Release: January 21, 2003
MICHIGAN RESIDENT STEPHEN PIERCE SETTLES CFTC ACTION CHARGING INTERNET FRAUD VIOLATIONS
CFTC Order Requires Stephen Pierce To Pay A Civil Monetary Penalty and Comply with Undertakings
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) announced today the issuance of an order settling an administrative proceeding against Stephen Pierce of Ann Arbor, Michigan.
The CFTC order, entered on January 21, 2003, finds that, from approximately March 2000 through July 2002, Stephen Pierce, a registered commodity trading advisor (CTA), sold subscriptions to his futures trading recommendation services through various internet websites.
The order finds that Stephen Pierce touted his trading record and failed to disclose that it was based on hypothetical or simulated trading and not actual performance. Further, the websites overstated the profit potential for Pierce’s trading recommendation services and understated the risk of loss. Finally, as a registered CTA who acted as such, Stephen Pierce was required to keep certain books and records, including client or subscriber information. The CFTC order finds that he failed to keep such records. The CFTC order arises out of an administrative complaint filed against Pierce on July 30, 2002 (see CFTC News Release 4683, July 30, 2002).
Without admitting or denying the findings in the CFTC order, Stephen Pierce consented to the entry of the order finding that he violated anti-fraud provisions of the Commodity Exchange Act, CFTC regulations requiring prescribed cautionary language when presenting simulated or hypothetical trading results, and CFTC recordkeeping requirements.
Specifically, the CFTC order:
• Finds that Stephen Pierce violated the Commodity Exchange Act and the CFTC regulations as charged in the complaint;
• Directs him to cease and desist from such further violations;
• Imposes a civil monetary penalty of $25,000; and
• Directs him to comply with specified undertakings regarding representations made on his internet websites.
The following Division of Enforcement staff are responsible for the case: Rosemary Hollinger, Scott R. Williamson, Robert J. Greenwald, Mark H. Bretscher, and Joy H. McCormack. A copy of the CFTC order can be found at U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
Media Enforcement Contact:
Rosemary Hollinger
Associate Director
Chicago Regional Counsel
CFTC Division of Enforcement
(312) 596-0520
13 Responses to Stephen Pierce Internet Income (Previous Convictions)
• truth says:
January 16, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Name Filed On File Type State Court Type Amount Case Number
STEPHEN PIERCE 08-24-2010 TAX LIEN MI FEDERAL TAX LIEN $2,160
STEPHEN A PIERCE Not reported BANKRUPTCY IN FED COURT CHAPTER 7 Bankruptcy
STEPHEN PIERCE 04-09-2009 BANKRUPTCY MD MARYLAND FED COURT CHAPTER 13 CONVERSION TO CHAPTER 7
STEPHEN PIERCE 09-22-2008 JUDGEMENT MD CIVIL NEW FILING $590
STEPHEN PIERCE 08-12-2008 JUDGEMENT MD CIVIL NEW FILING $8,149
STEPHEN PIERCE 10-30-2008 JUDGEMENT MD SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT $1,533
STEPHEN A PIERCE 04-08-2003 TAX LIEN MD STATE TAX LIEN $10,190
STEPHEN PIERCE 06-10-2003 SUIT FILED MD DISTRICT COURT SUIT $4,419
STEPHEN PIERCE 08-14-2002 JUDGEMENT MD SMALL CLAIMS JUDGMENT $2,179
STEPHEN PIERCE 08-14-2002 JUDGEMENT MD DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT $2,179
STEPHEN PIERCE 07-24-2001 JUDGEMENT MD DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT $840
STEPHEN PIERCE 06-07-2001 SUIT FILED MD DISTRICT COURT SUIT $869
STEPHEN PIERCE 03-15-2000 JUDGEMENT MD MONTGOMERY DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT $5,555
STEPHEN PIERCE 06-06-2000 SUIT FILED MD MONTGOMERY DISTRICT COURT SUIT $2,134
STEPHEN PIERCE 08-06-1999 SUIT FILED MD MONTGOMERY DISTRICT COURT SUIT $4,000
STEPHEN PIERCE 01-14-1999 SUIT FILED MD MONTGOMERY DISTRICT COURT SUIT $10,000
STEPHEN PIERCE 01-27-1999 BANKRUPTCY MD MARYLAND FED COURT CHAPTER 7 FILING (NEW)
STEPHEN PIERCE 02-05-1999 SUIT FILED MD DISTRICT COURT SUIT $1,113
STEPHEN PIERCE 02-05-1998 JUDGEMENT MD DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT $3,080
STEPHEN A PIERCE 01-09-1998 JUDGEMENT MD DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT $12,683
STEPHEN A PIERCE 09-16-1997 SUIT FILED MD DISTRICT COURT SUIT $12,643
STEPHEN PIERCE 12-08-1997 JUDGEMENT MD DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT $5,352
STEPHEN PIERCE 05-06-1997 SUIT FILED MD MONTGOMERY DISTRICT COURT SUIT $12,850
STEPHEN PIERCE 03-12-1997 SUIT FILED MD MONTGOMERY DISTRICT COURT SUIT $1,028
STEPHEN PIERCE 11-08-1995 JUDGEMENT MD MONTGOMERY DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT $4,824
STEPHEN PIERCE 08-14-1995 SUIT FILED MD MONTGOMERY DISTRICT COURT SUIT $4,784
STEPHEN A PIERCE 03-29-1995 BANKRUPTCY MD GREENBELT CHAPTER 7 DISCHARGED
STEPHEN A PIERCE 07-05-1995 BANKRUPTCY MD GREENBELT CHAPTER 13 DISMISSED
STEPHEN PIERCE 12-07-1994 SUIT FILED MD DISTRICT COURT SUIT $2,184
STEPHEN PIERCE 06-01-1993 JUDGEMENT MD DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT
STEPHEN PIERCE 09-22-1992 SUIT FILED MD DISTRICT COURT SUIT $324
STEPHEN PIERCE 12-18-1992 SUIT FILED MD DISTRICT COURT SUIT $2,055
STEPHEN A PIERCE 07-16-1992 JUDGEMENT MD DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT $2,396
STEPHEN A PIERCE 04-07-1992 SUIT FILED MD DISTRICT COURT SUIT $2,391
STEPHEN A PIERCE 10-27-1992 SUIT FILED MD PRINCE GEORGE’S DISTRICT COURT SUIT $234
Name Title Address
Stephen Pierce Resident Agent 9525 Sherwood Dr
Upper Marlboro, MD 20772
BLACK AMERICA ONLINE INC
Company Name Filing Date State Corporation ID
BLACK AMERICA ONLINE INC 03-18-1996 MD F04358909
National Criminal Record Search
20 RECORD(S) FOUND
Search Criteria
FIRST NAME STEPHEN
LAST NAME PIERCE
DOB 19680804
Search Detail Records
Name Address SSN / DOB
PIERCE, STEPHEN ALAN 898 WINDBROOKE DRIVE
GAITHERSBURG MD 20879
DOB: 08/04/1968 Age: 42
MName ALAN
Race AFRICAN AMERICAN
Sex MALE
Height 6’02″
Weight 210 LBS
CRIMINAL Offense
OffenseName BD CK/UTTER/NSF/$30000 & UP
OffenseCode 27.141
CaseNumber 2D00082042
State MD
Source MD ADMIN OFFICE OF COURTS DISTRICT COURTS
Court DISTRICT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY – CRIMINAL SYSTEM
CaseType criminal
DispositionDate 02/07/2000
Plea OTHER PLEA
Disposition NOLLE PROSEQUI
Offense
OffenseName BD CK/UTTER/NSF/UND $10000
OffenseCode 27.141.(A)
CaseNumber 2D00082042
State MD
Source MD ADMIN OFFICE OF COURTS DISTRICT COURTS
Court DISTRICT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY – CRIMINAL SYSTEM
CaseType criminal
DispositionDate 02/07/2000
Plea GUILTY
OffenseName BD CK/UTTER/NSF/UND $3000
OffenseCode 27.141.(A)
CaseNumber 2D00082042
State MD
Source MD ADMIN OFFICE OF COURTS DISTRICT COURTS
Court DISTRICT COURT FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY – CRIMINAL SYSTEM
CaseType criminal
DispositionDate 02/07/2000
Plea OTHER PLEA
Disposition NOLLE PROSEQUI
• josh says:
October 8, 2011 at 5:25 pm
hes not paying you because hes spending all the money on himself…i suggest you sue him
• Dexter Damien Chan says:
June 21, 2011 at 7:04 am
I sincerely believe Stephen Pierce is a potential scam… I have been an affiliate of his for many months and made him quite a fair bit of money… he paid me promptly for the start… but for the last 8 months… he totally stopped paying me citing reasons that the company is going through a revamp and the support site is not trained well enough to handle my requests. I have been contacting him but as what all of you have experienced… no response at all… is there any means of getting at him?!
• jane says:
August 2, 2011 at 1:31 pm
You have to file a complaint with the BBB, that is the only way to get the attention of Stephen Pierce. Not sure what “training” his staff needs. You run a report, then you pay your affiliates. Stephen PIerce makes millions online and doen’t know how to pay affiliates? If I was Steph Pierce, I would do it myself if needed – we all know affiliates are critical to success!
• jane says:
August 2, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Here is the link for BBB – https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/ge…spx?siteID=113
• No Refunds here, sorry says:
June 16, 2011 at 1:25 pm
THE 3 DAY REFUND POLICY IS A SCAM AND A JOKE.. Yes, your supposed to get your money back- will you? Probably not. When I called the Stephen Pierce offiCe for follow up on my refund, I discover that the one person in that office whom I was working with regularly is no longer there. What is going on with the turn-over in this office? The left hand does not know what the right is doing at the so called corporate offices of Stephen Pierce. The staff there seems bewildered and untrained. I have been requesting a refund for over 6 weeks- I requested this within the 3 day period to be told Stephen Pierce himself has all say over refund approvals and I will be notified. It has been over a month. I hope Mr. Pierce is enjoying my money.
• sorrysuevog says:
June 15, 2011 at 12:48 pm
He did this isame in Australia and Malaysia and he still didnt give us any help. We still waiting for help from this man but no help coming.
• Barby says:
June 13, 2011 at 9:16 pm
I dont believe a word of this! mr pearce is a great speaker and a millionare from selling his ideas. whats wrong with y0u folks. give the bother a break.
• admin says:
June 20, 2011 at 6:09 am
Yes we should give “Give a brother a break” so he can continue to steal from retires. He needs their money much more then they need it. /sarcasm off
• Jules says:
June 21, 2011 at 12:55 am
Barby obviously only knows the part of the scam artist Stephen Pierce that he wants her to know. Barby – we don’t blame you honey – he has a talent for convincing people that he’s a good person. Interview his old clients, family, etc. You’ll hear about what a scammer this “brother” is. Don’t feel bad – everyone falls for the big Stephen Pierce image until they find out who Stephen Pierce really is.
• No Refunds here, sorry says:
June 21, 2011 at 12:23 am
Are you kidding me? Give HIM a break?? In my opinon, he is a liar and a thief! I have it on good authority that he refuses to refund his customers because he thinks that customers buy his products, make copies of the information, then try to return them within the 3 days for a full refund, so his customers are technically stealing from him – so he wont give refunds back. Just because some of us bought into his old “Bullet to a BMW” schtick, doesnt mean the rest of the world should, either!
• nozyoramn says:
June 11, 2011 at 10:29 am
Stephen Pierce, MRMI, Super Cash, Stephen Pierce Gold Package
Thank you for putting up this forum. After a horrible experience with this stephen pierce international company, I am doing my part to see that no one else has this happen to them. I looked online before I bought and didn’t see any complaints. Now when I want a refund for this over-priced product i cant get one because the three day refund period is over. three days is in the fine print which no one said a word about at that seminar. anyone else had this problem?
• PeterGj says:
May 9, 2011 at 6:40 am
Thank you for starting this. My experience is that I took advantage of a ‘special offer’ from Stephen. 14 days to evaluate if I want to proceed or not. Paid my $1, never received the promised material to evaluate, my credit card was deducted with $94, and none of the 11 support tickets I have submitted has been answered. Very disappointing. And I even met the guy and his wife. Guess thing changes when your facebook status changes to ‘single’, now it is all about mow much money to collect.
And I am sure there is much, much more once people really start digging. Let’s aid his attorney with as much information as we can.
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Kangaroo Boy Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 4:28 am
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington,
I for one would like more information on your Australian efforts as I have some scammed contacts of my own.
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 10:51 am
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington, I see your ex-FBI man Gary Morley at About Us has telemarketing-fraud & racketeering right on his list of expertise:
“Gary’s expertise encompasses fraud investigations related to financial institutions, securities, money laundering, computer/cyber crime, intellectual property, health care, bankruptcy, telemarketing, public corruption, labor racketeering, organized crime and federal election law.”
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# 7 April 2012 at 1:43 am

Carl said:
In poking around the net, I have found a number of complaints from people in Asia. Obviously they were previously SOL when it came to recourse, considering their location. I’m not sure how to really get the word out to those people, and there could be quite a few.
If any readers know of any forums or groups that would help to alert victims in Asia, please spread the word, since people don’t have to reside in the U.S. to be a part of this litigation.
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# 7 April 2012 at 2:54 am

unbelievable said:
See that $25,000 the CFTC imposed on stephen pierce, read this shit. Stephen Pierce’s father-in-law went into his 401K took out the money with penalty and kept that asshole out of jail. Now Stephen Pierce and the scumbags lawyers are suing the mother-in-law. I would love to read that lawsuit. Question for SD can these lawsuits be posted? Damn I want to see what he is suing these people for. That is the same mother-in-law mowing the lawn to save him money. This rat is becoming is snake.
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# 7 April 2012 at 7:40 am

FTC? said:
Can we get him on FTC violations?
I know they are getting more and more strict – he says here 55,000 satisfied customers – really? can i get a listing of all the satisfied customers please.
http://www.mrmisupercash.com/
And i would like for him to prove that he makes 10mill a year, because from first hand knowledge i know that he does not make that much.
Pierce made $500K that first year and now, ten years later, grosses $10 million per year selling products on several websites as well as a lucrative speaking career.
http://www.mrmisupercash.com/about
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 10:39 am
@FTC?, Will be looking thru the sites for them, but in meantime he can definitely be convicted of using wacky word inclusion:
“I’ve traveled all around the United States in a tour bus with my face on it doing live training workshop, helping people just like you make real money on the internet…. real fast.”
Can it be true the “with my face on it” part was really needed to say?
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SD Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
@Jack ::
My bus has Sarah Palin’s face on it … and I also try to drop that into a sentences whenever I can.
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 8:01 pm
@Jack, The tour bus he’s driving really does have his face on it. The motorhome is enormous – it’s bigger than my house, and it’s worth more – it’s got to be worth at least 100K. Wonder if it’s registered in his name….
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
@I wantz 2B rich, Yep. Saw the bus on the page with his statement about “it has my face on it”, which for me is what made his reference more the funnier.
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Ray Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 9:27 pm
@I wantz 2B rich, Once his pants get sued off, he might need to live in that bus…until it gets taken away from him.
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SD Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 1:10 pm
@FTC? ::
Those figures can almost all be proved as blatant lies … but the FTC is more like a show pony … which is :: I assume :: a pony that never has to get dirty or carry any bags or do one motherfucking thing except for standing around saying …
“look at me … I’m a show pony”
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Jack Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
@SD, lol. Well said.
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taseric Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
@SD,
So the FTC is sorta like the Paris Hilton of law enforcement then ?
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# 7 April 2012 at 9:07 am
Stephen Pierce Class Action Lawsuit — Articulayers said:
[...] quote the droid from the most recent post, The People VS Stephen Pierce: Dallas Attorney Alan Rosenberg is preparing to bring a lawsuit against Stephen Pierce [...]
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# 7 April 2012 at 10:51 am

Barbara said:
For lack of any better ideas I’m commenting on Youtube, I see a lot of regular commenters here doing the same and I figure the more the merrier. I’m “spliffqueeg” on Youtube. (don’t ask about the stupid name…it was late and yes, I was high )
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Spike Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
@Barbara, I see you :)
There’s about a million Stephen Pierce videos out there. He’s been a busy boy.
There’s also this one… I’ve suggested he come here to tell his tale. Anybody in the States want to give him a call??
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Spike Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
@Spike, we’ll try that again…
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Spike Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 1:03 pm
@Spike, Hmm he’s disabled embedding could that be the problem)
youtube.com/watch?v=xofELy8IKk4
Try copying that into a browser.. If it’s still there after I submit the post that is…
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_cartman_ Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
@Spike,
yeah…no….he’s trying to sell his own BS system [[unlimited profits]]…in this case the old axiom “the enemy of my enemy is usually a douchebag too” holds true
[[I know...right...hot saying...I just maded it up right now...along with maded]]
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SD Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
@Spike ::
He has embeding disabled.
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anonymous Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
@SD, I know this guy. He will post on one of the other sites.
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anonymous Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
@Barbara, Great work guys! I was just out on YouTube and actually had to hunt for some place to post! We are getting the word out there!
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Neutron Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
@anonymous, Hey, even if you spot an existing comment, go ahead and add another one! Let’s make WAVES! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ !!!
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anonyous Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:08 am
@anonymous, OK folks! I posted the lawsuit announcement until Youtube got tired of me, with or without Captcha. Wouldn’t take my links, so I just wrote out the email and directed them back here. Then I went back in tonight and did about 20 or so.
What did you do today to get the word out????????
10 posts anywhere makes a difference.
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Hey Peeps! Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:38 am
@anonyous, I’ve been commenting away. Blogs, forums, complaint sites, and youtube’s next. My fingers are tired. But my satisfaction is great! :) Not going to quit! Thanks to everybody who is helping…you all ROCK!
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Wyrd Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
@Barbara,
I’m having trouble leaving comments. I try to leave these long comments with a link in them and it says “ERROR!” really big. I try re-doing the comment link-free and it doesn’t seem to help.
(My normal youtube account is wyrdwyrd but I made a new one for this occasion just in case someone gets ban-happy: 1am3r3r.)
Anyway, I see you’ve been able to leave comments there so I’m hoping you can tell me what I’m doing wrong.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Carl Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
@Wyrd, Try using a different web browser and see if that makes any difference.
Or maybe there is a commenting frequency threshold that triggers a block from google. I know that it is possible to do too many searches and google will automatically impose a termporary block (thinking a person might be using automated software).
If that is the case, it usually resets after some unknown amount of time. Also, such things can be gotten around using a different IP address/computer network, if you have access to any others (by wireless for example).
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Spike Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 5:07 am
@Wyrd, I get the same error message after about 5 or 6 comments. But I do get a Captcha thingy come up to fill in and then it’s fine.
Guys even if somebody has already posted a comment on a video about what a nasty bloke he is, please add yours, otherwise it seems like it is just one disgruntled customer.
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Barbaa Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 8:46 am
@Wyrd,
I don’t use any links because, regrettably, Youtube has stopped me from posting links in the past. I get the error message that Spike mentioned after posting just three messages, (they must have a greater tolerance for Spike), but after filling out their cryptic captcha box I’m good to go.
I must say I’m perplexed by your situation. Usually if I’m link-free the posts go right up. And I agree with Spike, the more of us who post comments the less it looks like one disgruntled customer and more like the opening of floodgates.
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Wyrd Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 10:05 am
@Barbaa,
I’ll try all link free and use a different browser.
But, for the long term, this sort of thing makes me not like youtube comments or the commenting procedure they have. But for the short term, We Must Get The Word Out.
-
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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# 7 April 2012 at 12:17 pm

Lynndel "Lynn" Edgington said:
First I want to apologize for not giving credit to the source of the information I posted above from Real Scam. I thought I had, but didn’t. That will teach me to post late at night when tired.
At any rate, the person who uncovered all of this was SoapBoxMom one of the admin’s of Real Scam. She also uncovered he was sued by Tony Robbins.
Kangaroo Boy: As for my Aussie contacts, sorry but they have to remain anonymous. Let’s just say the word should be getting out, but please use your sources to spread the word too. We can never have too many people getting the word out.
This guy is dirty, and all of his hype to the contrary is not going to fly, at least not this time.
I do want to point out one thing about Eagle. Our expertise is in Internet investment Ponzi’s/Scams, and their other forms of Cyber Crime. If we had the resources (read donations as we are a nonprofit) we would consider getting into this area of scammers like Stephen Pierce, as there are way too many just like him that need to be shut down. We just don’t have the funds to do so at this time.
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# 7 April 2012 at 2:37 pm

Hey Peeps! said:
Comment opportunity:
The sites that reported Tony Robbins suing Stephen Pierce would be GREAT for comments. Many of them are mainstream with high traffic, like TMZ:
http://www.tmz.com/2008/04/24/tony-robbins-unleashes-the-power-of-lawsuit/
Try searching like so: “Tony Robbins” sues “Stephen Pierce”
Comment away!
By the way – even if you land on a site that already has any comments from peeps here, go ahead and add your own anyway. There’s lots to say about this guy. Bulk it up!
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 7th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
@Hey Peeps!,
I just commented on the tmz blog entry you linked to & sent a copy of it to their story tips email.
Thanks for the link!
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Hey Peeps! Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
@I wantz 2B rich, I saw your comment, but it would be better not to go in multiple directions and suggest multiple villains, like BOTH Pierce and Robbins. The media is lazy and you can never just throw a link to them and expect they’ll even click on it. If you don’t hook them with something alarming and very specifically focused, they will never bother.
Besides, there are plenty of negative comments about Robbins following that story, and unfortunately, many are defending Pierce. Gotta pick our battles. Focusing on Pierce’s suing people he has ripped off – now that really peeks the dastardly meter.
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
@Hey Peeps!, I’m one of those people who does her best to stay away from YouTube and Facebook. Around 6 years ago, I was questioned about having a My Space account during a deposition. I had sustained a serious hand injury from a dogbite, required surgery, lost part of a finger. Hadn’t provoked the dog, not what I would call a frivolous lawsuit. Anyway, that questioning was unnecessarily provocative and intrusive, so I bristle at posting on either of those sites. Not that there’s online privacy, but I still resent the invasion of privacy. I know this is sort of off-topic, and the privacy issue is a sign of the times, but I’m stubborn.
Still appreciate the link…and if TMZ is having a slow day, you never know if it will spark some interest. And I think all of the people that are taking the time to spread the word near and far are fantastic. Margaret Mead once said: “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
And I’m grateful for the opportunity to post in a manner less “colorful” (offensive and vulgar by some standards) than I often do. The clergyman that posted has given me food for thought. I don’t have legal expertise to contribute, but I can snark pretty well at times…
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Hey Peeps! Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
@I wantz 2B rich, Thanks a lot for all your efforts. That wasn’t meant as a criticism, but as a helpful tip. Sorry if it sounded that way. We’re all working toward the same goal, so as long as we get there, that’s really what counts. Keep it up! :)
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
@Hey Peeps!, No offense taken. You made a valid point & I was sharing my perspective. We’re working towards the same goal.
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# 7 April 2012 at 3:10 pm

El Two Prong said:
It would be worth searching for places where Stephen Pierce has any future appearances scheduled, and:
1. Alerting those people/organizations with this information, and
2. Contacting the news media (online, print and broadcast) in those locations as well.
Thoroughly doing that number (2) will help motivate any reluctant (1).
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# 7 April 2012 at 4:57 pm

Barbara said:
On Stephen Pierce’s facebook page Thursday:
“Know the books and know the streets,
Keep your cool but bring the heat.
Understand that you’re on a mission,
Success is up to you and by your own definition.
Haters going to shove and try to push you around,
But no matter what stand tall and hold your ground.
No time to be weak you gotta grind hard,
… Protect your dream and your mission like a bodyguard.”
Okay, when you stop laughing at Pierce the Poet try writing like him. It’s fun!
“My lawyer Whitney’s ugly and kind of stupid,
They thought he wuz a girl at OK Cupid”
“I gotta nipple ring and a tattoo on my calf
now my doctor says I gots two kinds of staph”
“My lawyer Paul Kerlin dint go to George Town
but he’s got hair like that hamburger clown”
WINNER!! ::   +10
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Anonymous Reply:
May 7th, 2012 at 5:21 pm
@Barbara, What a poet !! LOL… this guys another Walt Whitman. The only grinding this guy does is when he hunkers down to commit more credit card fraud. What a fucking jack ass.
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# 7 April 2012 at 5:54 pm

I wantz 2B rich said:
New facebook entry – says Stephen Pierce:
Mah name is Nipple-Pierce
Mah game is play it fierce
Ah like to play it fly
And cheat you on the sly
My inlaws paid my bail
To keep me out of jail
Now they mow my grass
While I sit on my ass
The Droid thinks he’s the man
Well, catch me if you can
You won’t knock me off my game
Ah’ll keep on just the same
Sez SD:
Your ass will be mine
Your tits ain’t so fine
You might be Nipple-Pierce
Yo’ name is mud right here
The wolf is at the door
You can’t hide anymore
The Droid ain’t gonna fail
He’ll see your ass in jail
When you is off the streets
We’ll all say mighty sweets
And you’ll be somebody’s bitch
When some big dude’s got the itch
Take wisdom from this sage:
There’ll be justice in the cage
WINNER!! ::   +11
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# 7 April 2012 at 6:40 pm

anonymous said:
LMAO!!!
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# 7 April 2012 at 6:58 pm

taseric said:
Was looking at Warrior Forum just now, and someone posted a new thread titled:
“Lawsuit against Stephen Pierce International?”
Here’s what it said:
Apparently there is a new lawsuit against Stephen Pierce International… what has he done to merit that?
From what I gather, this is the guy managing the lawsuit:
Attorney Alan Rosenberg, Chamblee, Ryan, Kershaw & Anderson, P.C., Dallas, Texas
He’s saying if people feel that they have been victimized they can apply to be part of the suit.
Wasn’t Stephen Pierce working with Frank Kern or something? My memory is a little fuzzy.
:End Quote:
Fairy innocuous. Reasonable questions I thought.
Copied it to Scrapbook, to check later whether it survived.
The thread was gone a few minutes later.
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# 7 April 2012 at 8:00 pm

Jack said:
Familiar logic?…

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# 7 April 2012 at 8:36 pm

Spike said:
The chap with the video I mentioned earlier has posted over at my blog : http://alley-cat.info/resurrecting-the-good-guys/#comments
I’m pasting it here so that you lazy gits don’t have to click on the link :)
He says he couldn’t post on Salty’s site as he is a minister and you bad fuckers are always swearing!! :)
I have refrained from saying anything negative about Mr. Pierce as much as I could. But I was invited here to share my thoughts about some things that
I know in reference to Mr. Pierce.
I worked with Stephen Pierce for 2 years and I at first things seemed to be fine. But it was after this that I began to learn WHO he really was and is:
I Greatly disturbed by the way he refused to pay his affiliates for over 8 months and the way people who worked for him in his office & affiliates were being bullied to be keep quiet.
His behavior is beyond words!! But the good news is that he will soon have to face the people he has hurt. This could have all turned out fine had Mr. Pierce really been like he said he was concerned about people. I see now he was just out for himself. I genuinely thought he was really trying to help people and I was Really hurt when I found he wasn’t.
All I can do is pray for him and hope he will turn his life around and make things right with the HUGE amount of people he’s hurt.
Here To Serve,
Ivan Harris, Sr. “The Value Creator”
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# 8 April 2012 at 5:22 am
EDITORIAL: Swearing By The ‘Droid’ On Easter Sunday said:
[...] Here’s how peeps {human kind} covered with Pierce tar can say no to his IM oil spill. [...]
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# 8 April 2012 at 11:52 am

Barbara said:
In between coloring Easter eggs and biting the heads off of chocolate bunnies Stephen Pierce, a.k.a. The People’s Poet, found time today to post this verse on Facebook:
“It doesn’t matter if you move fast or slow,
When you don’t even know where ya wanna go.
So first things first, we have to clearly see,
Not just where we are at, but where we want to be.
Once clear be careful with whom you talk about it,
Some of the closes folks to you will tempt you to have doubts about it.”
***************************************************************************
Some of the “closes” folks? And why does the pronoun “you” in the first stanza suddenly shift to “ya”? I suppose in order to really “get” the poetry of Stephen Pierce you must first grasp his gritty, jazz-infused aesthetic. As Stephen tells you in his biography he was a homeless high school dropout living in his parent’s basement. I know what you’re thinking: then how could he claim to be homeless? See, this is just proof that you are not ready to read and understand his enigmatic poetry where syntax is rejected and the staid conventions of poetry are overthrown.
Personally, I think his sly allusion to the Tortoise and the Hare in the first stanza is pure genius. “Whassup Aesop!” I think we could all benefit from a close reading of Stephen Pierce’s verse.
WINNER!! ::   +10
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Jack Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
@Barbara,

“I suppose in order to really “get” the poetry of Stephen Pierce you must first grasp his gritty, jazz-infused aesthetic.”
I suppose maybe it could qualify as the spittle off from one of Rahsaan Roland Kirk’s saxaphone’s at best, still is probably the big, big stretch though.

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Barbara Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
@Jack,
It’s hard to say how much those two men could possibly have in common but I have it on good authority that Stephen Pierce has been known to write three poems at the same time.
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Billy Ray Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
@Barbara, Yes, but what is “at the same time?” I would guess it would at be the same time he was using the toilet, but maybe that’s just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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Jack Reply:
April 8th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
@Barbara, I guess the one-up the pierce-crowd has on Mr. Kirk is I don’t think Mr. Kirk’s sound-fascination-experimentation at all ventured into the territory of breaking a board over his own head.
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former employee Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 12:00 am
@Barbara, Stephen Pierce raps because he had no where to go on Easter Sunday, no family, no friends, no church… just like he had no where to go on Christmas when I worked for him. He tells his story like he grew up on the street but that isn’t true. His father was a career officer in the United States Army. I think he was born in Germany. He had all the same advantages of other Army kids and most of them get out of high school, don’t do drugs or gangs, have families, and start legitimate businesses.
Stephen Pierce big problem is that his own attitude and actions have generated so much hatred among their employees, customers, Affiliates, business partners, and suppliers that they sue his ass and post about him on the internet. Kevin Vela used to refer to ‘disgruntled former employees, ‘disgruntled former customers’, yada yada yada. Yep. lots of disgruntled folks around that lonely little man and his puffy haired pretty boys.
WINNER!! ::   +9
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# 8 April 2012 at 1:13 pm

former employee said:
I agree with.. I wantz 2B rich Let’s focus on Stephen Pierce and all those people he is suing and ripped off.
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# 8 April 2012 at 7:15 pm

Kangaroo Boy said:
I have been contacted by a former Stephen Pierce client, and I use the word advisedly, who tells me that she was hounded endlessly by Prosper Learning to buy more Stephen Pierce products.
I have now harvested all of the identifiable email addresses from that site and written to each of them asking them to join our cause. At least one of them is a Stephen Pierce victim and she will be joining us. There may be others.
Those that are savvy regarding the ways of this shady scam world may be able to identify other sites that bottom feed just like Prosper. They may also house victims that need our help.
WINNER!! ::   +14
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Charlotte Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@Kangaroo Boy, Nice work! This just goes to show how sickly intricate of a web it is they weave.
Has anyone thought to contact his affiliates? They’ve got the lists and they could be on the hook… Maybe sending out a broadcast informing their list they they are no longer doing business with Pierce due to the alarming information that is now public… And if anyone has bought his stuff and got scammed, to let them know.
Hey affiliates, here’s an easy way to build good will with your list…
Make it happen.
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Head Honcho Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
@Charlotte, That there is some purdy fine reasoning, lady Charlotte. It would have to be an affiliate with a conscience or one convinced there will be no more money coming from Pierce…but they’re surely out there.
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# 9 April 2012 at 1:31 am

former employee said:
hey Scumbag lawyers Why don’t you ask Stephen Pierce’s mother if he is BIPOLAR
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Carl Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 4:43 pm
@former employee, I take it that you mean “he is.” How did that impact the office environment and employees?
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Pierce is NOT bipolar Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
@former employee,
He is a sociopath. http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
If you brand him as bipolar, you do a disservice to those who are bipolar plus create sympathy for a condition that he doesn’t have.
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anonymous Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
@Pierce is NOT bipolar, I agree. Bipolar doesn’t adequately describe Stephen Pierce mental condition. He was unpredictable as hell and ranted and raved at us, so I guess that sounds bipolar. But I worked with a guy once who was bipolar and he didn’t scare me. Stephen Pierce scared me because he fought every one and didn’t know when to stop. He thinks that dominating and force are the same as power. Just read his website now. All about ignoring the message that customers are sending him and putting on that tough front. He had an excuse for his manipulative, combative, self serving, and down right mean behavior every day and it was always someone else who made him do it.
He loved the mind game. We would be on the verge of solving a problem, like creating blogs for all those customers he sold em too, and then he would throw a monkey wrench into the works to either stop it, delay it, or make us just beg him to cooperate. I swear, he loved to hear us beg. He loved being the center of attention. We were like puppets on his string. it wasn’t just your garden variety over controlling boss either. His actions resulted in completely self serving results every single day or else they resulted in the staff getting tongue whipped for the failures that we all saw coming due to yesterday’s self-serving dictates
I guess that in order to sue me for calling Stephen Pierce mentally ill, Vorys would have to prove that he isn’t, right? In my dreams the judge calls for a battery of psychological testing and I sell tickets to the show. ha ha
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former employee Reply:
April 10th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
@anonymous, Good God this man should be committed to the physco ward. Can’t these lawyers or parents see he needs help or are we waiting for a blow up Suing is in season
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Wyrd Reply:
April 10th, 2012 at 9:14 am
@former employee,
From what I’m reading here, Pierce would definitely fit the sociopath/psychopath [saltydroid.info] bill best.
Check it: wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy:
Interpersonal-Affect items
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Emotionally shallow
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Antisocial items
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Parasitic lifestyle
Poor behavioral control
Promiscuous sexual behavior
Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Impulsiveness
Irresponsibility
Juvenile delinquency
Early behavioral problems
Revocation of conditional release
Many short-term marital relationships
Criminal versatility.
Is there any point on that list that does not apply to Pierce?
Not that our armchair diagnosing of whatever mental issues he may or may not have really matters at the end of the day.
The plain facts are
* that the guy has done a lot of bad things,
* that he is very likely to keep doing bad things and that,
* like the Terminator, he absolutely will not stop ever.
So… he should have penalties and stuff. Ideally life in prison. But with this being a civil case, incarceration isn’t an option so we’ll take what we can get.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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right on Reply:
April 10th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
@Wyrd, omg that is exactly stephen!
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former employee Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Who is Stephen Pierce tormenting right now? Answer His Lawyers because they are behind in sending out lawsuits. Word is Attorney Kevin Vela dropped a former employee lawsuit BC
He doesn’t work for Stephen Pierce any longer. Hell we all know Vela didn’t get paid
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# 9 April 2012 at 4:25 pm

Liam said:
Salty you are the man.
I’ve been waiting for this guy to get caught for years.
Liam
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# 10 April 2012 at 12:58 am

Liam said:
Stephen Pierce was strongly affiliated with Jeff Johnson. I remember Jeff telling everybody how Stephen and his wife used to go round to his for coffee. Probably so they could work out their next scam.
I remember watching Pierce on a dvd. He was talking like he was on Acid. I had to turn him off.
Go get him.
Liam
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# 10 April 2012 at 1:11 am

Walt said:
The fine folk at RealScam.com have pointed to a new alert posted by Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington over on the Eagle Research Associates website (thanks Lynn, and RealScam!):
http://eagleresearchassociates.org/StephenPierce.php
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# 10 April 2012 at 3:25 am

Amazon Comments Needed said:
Search for Stephen Pierce’s books on Amazon, and add your comments to each “book.” Be sure to mention his prior history as well as the lawsuit info. They may not allow links, so include the attorney’s name, firm name, and city (Dallas, Texas) so people can google for more info. Remember to mention that there is no cost to be represented in the lawsuit, and people can do so regardless of where they live.
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# 10 April 2012 at 4:50 am

I wantz 2B rich said:
I just did a “review” on his Secrets to Creating Wealth. I’m reluctant to do more than one – I don’t want Amazon to think I’m spamming, especially if others are commenting on his books, as well.
Great idea. I was careful about what I wrote, since I’m not one of his victims, and I’m not sure what will fly with Amazon. Time will tell, did share lawsuit info, though.
Great idea!
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# 10 April 2012 at 5:23 am

Jack said:
From Click Here To Order Now, ©2009, Joel Comm
“…when a well known Internet Market steered Schefren into some dead ends, he started looking elsewhere for help, and for a new webmaster. Recalling that Stephen Pierce had a coaching program, Schefren called him one night and joined; he knew that if nothing else, Pierce could recommend a good webmaster. He did. Greg Cesar. The spiritual Pierce and the secular Schefren made an unlikely pair of friends, but the did hit it off, and the coaching was a success as well.”
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SD Reply:
April 10th, 2012 at 12:37 pm
@Jack ::
Comm :: Schefren :: Pierce
… three for three.
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Oompa Loompa Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 3:48 am
@Jack, That’s hilarious!
Rich Schefren actually paid Stephen Pierce to coach him!
And then, RJ paid Schefren for coaching.
RJ needs to forget all that stuff pronto, or he could be running his business based on the trickle-down non-advice of a high school dropout!
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# 10 April 2012 at 12:28 pm

Jack said:
Also, was watching/listening to music and thought about if there’s good evidence that mr. Pierce has money to collect?

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Jack Reply:
April 10th, 2012 at 1:42 pm
@Jack, SD, can you remove the Modest-Mouse vid and this post? Not exactly a good suggestion for a class-action cause.
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Jack Reply:
April 10th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
@Jack,meant “comment” – not “post” lol
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Luther Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 2:09 am
@Jack, Hi Jack, I got to thinking maybe you aren’t Jack, just one of those Modest Mice trying to trick Salty into removing Jack’s post exposing them. You could also be Atrick 9 days too late. Thinking we should maybe wait until after the government gives everybody a mandatory microchip so we can make sure it’s really you.
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Jack Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
@Luther, I don’t think I’m Atric/Atrick – who I forgot splurged and took up on Lanna’s k-splurge suggestion
I’m sure Atrick will do the right thing and go to send out the Class Action Notification to all of his big subscriber-base.
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Luther Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 6:58 pm
@Jack, Hi Jack. Now I know it’s you, because Atric/Atrick wouldn’t say, “I don’t think I’m Atric/Atrick,” he would say, “I am NOT Atric/Atrick.” Also, he wouldn’t know the top secret code words, “Class Action Notification.”
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SD Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 2:15 am
@Jack ::
I couldn’t risk offending old-school Modest Mouse by deleting it.
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Jack Reply:
April 14th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
@SD, Besides it, I found out about that mr. Pierce can make $100,000 each 4 days selling nothing when he wants to do it.
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Luther Reply:
April 14th, 2012 at 11:22 pm
@Jack, Hi Jack, It says there that Mr. Stephen Pierce is an “ex-street gang member.” I would like to know what his job was with the street gang and about his performance appraisal. Is there anything about if he was good at his gang job and maybe his attendance record?
Also did he have any discipline problems with his gang job. I don’t know what a gang discipline problem would be though, since I guess if you are bad on a gang job then it would mean you get a promotion.
I guess maybe all that gang training was probably real helpful for what Mr. Pierce does now. How many drive-by suings is he up to?
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Jack Reply:
April 14th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
@Luther, I went back to read about his 4-day-money-miracle feet once more again and found out it says:
“Stephen Pierce will attempt to make US$100,000
and raise money to feed 1 million starving children
from the internet”
Is it true about the children living in the Internet?
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# 10 April 2012 at 12:43 pm

former employee said:
Stephen Pierce never socializes over coffee with anyone
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# 10 April 2012 at 2:41 pm

Jack said:
At Cosmic Connies, Whirled Musings:
Pierce-ing the veil of lies: getting even with Stephen
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# 10 April 2012 at 8:54 pm

Pierce's So-Called "Book" said:
“Secrets to Creating Wealth: Learn How to Create Outrageous Wealth with Only Two Pennies to Rub Together”
http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Creating-Wealth-Outrageous-Together/dp/1933596414/
I thought Stephen Pierce’s “secret” was rubbing other people’s MasterCards together?
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Ryan Healy Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
@Pierce’s So-Called “Book”, I read this book shortly after it was published. The books were given out free at a seminar I attended, and I read the book on the plane ride home. Even at that time, when I was still enamored with many of the gurus, I thought the book was crap.
My opinion hasn’t changed.
I can’t reference the book because I got rid of it back in 2007 when I was moving, but if memory serves, the book was put together from a transcribed talk Stephen gave somewhere.
It was hardly readable… very poorly “written.”
One of those books where you finish it and think… “Geez, how did this guy get published? Surely I can come up with something better than this!”
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Todd Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
@Ryan Healy,
How did he get published? The answer is one simple word. Money.
I can get kinkos to publish a book for me right now.
And although that book was made before my time, I wouldn’t doubt the book was transcribed considering most of his material was written by someone else (I know this from first hand experience).
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# 10 April 2012 at 11:17 pm

Barbara said:
As I searched Youtube for Stephen Pierce videos to comment on I noticed how often he mentioned that he had just gotten back from touring with “Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani, Joe Montana and some of my other close friends”. These speaking tours were with Get Motivated Seminar.
Get Motivated is a scam run by “Christian” rapper Tamara Lowe. Her husband Peter ran the racket for many years when it was called “The Success Company”. After Peter ran that company aground, leaving huge unpaid debts he said this:
“I wish I had enough money to pay all the people The Success Companies should have paid. But I can’t do that,” says Lowe, who has launched a new motivational speaking firm called Life Win. “That’s something The Success Companies is going to have to answer to.”
I’m not sure when “Life Win” morphed into “Get Motivated” but basically the swindle has remained the same. A few high profile celebrities are named in the advance publicity leading up to the event. Those particular people may, or may not, actually appear. But then the real purpose is revealed. A Stephen Pierce or other shady huckster takes the stage and harangues the captive audience to buy buy BUY!! It’s today only!!
One of the ways Tamara Lowe swindles her marks is in the ticket sales. Tickets are advertised at a very low price, five dollars and sometimes less. But, and here’s a big but, that’s advance tickets only. What happens when you buy at the door? Tickets are now, incredibly, priced at $295 apiece! And what if you ordered in advance using your credit card? You will be called or emailed frequently right up until the day of the event and urged to upgrade your ticket. You know, $89 if you want to actually see the stage, upgrades like those.
One former employee of Get Motivated , speaking anonymously said:
“I worked in the Accounts Payable dept. for Get Motivated Seminars in Tampa. I cut checks for these speakers. The speakers make a fortune, not to mention personal planes. I collected money for Investools and the real estate packages. This company would charge people months, even years, after the agreement occured. Not an ethical move!”
“These people at the very least are far less than honest. A big portion of the seminar is a giant ambush infomercial. If Loew denies this she has little or no integrity.”
It’s not surprising to find Stephen Pierce in the company of other career criminals. It’s where I’d expect him to be. When Pierce finally goes to prison do you think Rudy or Sarah will take his one call?
WINNER!! ::   +8
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Lanna Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 12:02 am
@Barbara,
Regarding a September 2010 Get Motivated event, Indianapolis Star reporter Dana Hunsinger wrote:
[T]he emcee, a perky blonde, said this: “When we survey audiences like you, we ask what they want,” she said. The first thing they say is spirituality and second is finances and investing, she revealed.
. . .
Note: the sales pitches were mostly an hour long, and the celebrities spoke more like 15 to 30 minutes.
. . .
Then a man named Stephen Pierce talked 30 minutes about how to make money online. At the end of his speech came an offer for a three-day workshop and software at a stated value of $11,226 but offered to seminar attendees for $29.
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Luther Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 1:28 am
@Lanna, Golly, a $11,226.00 seminar for just $29. That sounds like a bargain even if I don’t know what it is.
I was thinking if I bought a ticket and then sold it for $9,999.00, then someone would still save $1,227.00 and I could make $9,970.00.
And if I bought 30 tickets for $870.00, I could make $299,100.00. Or I could buy a billion tickets and make $9,970,000,000,000.00. Then I could afford to pay somebody to type my comments here for me and also they could think them up.
But first I will need to know how much they charge for a cup of coca-cola at those seminars. Cause I got to thinking that maybe the coca-cola won’t have any discount like the tickets.
I figured out the tickets are only 1/387 of what they normally cost. I was thinking if a cup of coca-cola was $3 after the discount, then if there wasn’t any discount, that $3 cup of coca-cola (times the 387) would cost $1,161.00.
So I need to find out first how many people would be willing to pay $1,161.00 for a cup of coca-cola.
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SD Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 2:08 am
@Lanna ::
$29 …
… and a free call from Utah.
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former employee Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
@SD, so so so true. he used to sell those leads and then the poor smuck got banged by Prosper. BTW, Prosper says that he is no longer a coach for them and the Prosper website does not show his ugly mug.
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Jack Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
@former employee, Sure enough:
http://www.prospering.com/about-us/
Has link to here:
http://www.prospering.com/partners/stephen_pierce.php
…which gives
“Not Found
The requested URL /partners/stephen_pierce.php was not found on this server.”
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Lanna Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
@Jack,
But the Wayback Machine remembers:
http://web.archive.org/web/20101024085804/http://www.prospering.com/partners/stephen_pierce.php
“Stephen Pierce is an internet multimillionaire who, with his wife, runs an endless empire of online businesses and three different coaching clubs. He is known as one of the powerhouses of the internet and teaches others to replicate his success.”
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Jack Reply:
April 11th, 2012 at 9:40 pm
@Jack, And Mr. Class Action Attorney remembers…as one of the Prosper coaches might be found to state while Prosper gets to get involved with discovery process…”Your Organization Is Only As Strong As It’s Weakest Link…even if it’s a 404 page now”.
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Ryan Healy Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 11:48 am
@Barbara, I got a call from “LifeWin” this morning (813-884-7200). They wanted to survey me to see which speakers I’d be interested in seeing. The only one I ranked highly was Bill Cosby.
Of course, to “thank” me for my participation, they wanted to send a free upgraded ticket, which I’m certain I will never use. No speaker line-up is ever guaranteed, so driving into Denver would be a colossal waste of time.
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SD Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 2:51 pm
@Ryan Healy ::
You could go see Mr. Cosby at Get Motivated’s next event in Iowa …
http://www.getmotivated.com/city.aspx?a=5403
It would be super cheap … but then hopefully you’d buy something from Utah afterward for $10,000ish so that Get Motivated could take half and everybody would be happy … except you of course … but fuck you … we need your money for yachts and shit.
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Ryan Healy Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
@SD, Well, in that case, forget Denver… I’m driving to Des Moines! Iowa FTW!
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Lanna Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
How does Get Motivated prevent people from leaving after the famous speakers and before the sales pitches?
I’ve seen others [cough - Wright Institute - cough] charge your credit card for $190 and then remove the charge only if you stay through the entire program.
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Ryan Healy Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
@Lanna, Good question… I was wondering that, too. Most people come for the “name” speakers like Cosby and Forbes and Rove. (Although I have no idea why anybody would want to hear Karl Rove speak…)
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Lanna Reply:
April 25th, 2012 at 8:17 am
OK, I was mistakenly thinking that they do all the sales pitches at the end. Hunsinger does say that the pitches are in between the celebrities and inspirational speakers. She also says people were snoring through and walking out on the first sales pitch.
In “The Get Motivated! tour that barnstormed into St. Louis last week is as American as a get-rich-quick scheme”, Riverfront Times reporter Sarah Fenske gives more details about the schedule. The event starts by 9:30 a.m., but the headliners don’t speak until at least 4:00 p.m. The sales pitches are intermingled, except for Stephen Pierce, who is dead last:
Pierce is clearly on last for a reason. His claims are increasingly wild – riches! Amazon rankings! Google placement! – his pitch so breakneck, that no sentient person could keep up, much less one who has sat through nine straight hours of being lectured to. “This is not get-rich-quick,” Pierce calls out as folks head for the exits.
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# 10 April 2012 at 11:35 pm

Spike said:
This was posted by JustTooMuchTime over at http://www.realscam.com/f11/people-vs-stephen-pierce-1189/
Full court docs available here:
http://courtecom.dallascounty.org/pav/
Enter case as: DC1201053
Case started 2/6/2007…then nothing til 1/27/2012
Jury trial is set for 10/2/2012.
Last entry in case history is from Judge Ginsberg office to plaintiff attorneys advising some administrative procedures weren’t followed.
If you take the time to log in you’ll see that in his hand written response, the Dale Brown that they are suing claims to know nothing about “Coastal Vacations” and says that he is an unemployed construction worker who is about to have his electricity cut off as he can’t afford to pay his bills. It’s also possible he’s going to lose his house due to tax debts.
The guy obviously can’t afford a lawyer. What happens in these cases, does this Dale Brown have to defend himself even though it seems likely there has been a case of mistaken identity?
Have Vorys Sater Seymour and Pease fucked up?
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BranP Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
@Spike, Hey. You’re really good at this research thing. Can you find the case were American Express is suing Stephen Pierce or Stephen Pierce International? Last I heard he owed them over $120K and they finally sued him.
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hmm Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 10:25 pm
@Spike, so looking at the handwritten letter it says his email address has the name “dupree” in it – so i went google and searched “dale dupree stephen pierce scam” and found articles written by a dale dupree using the keyword “stephen pierce scam”, but he is an affiliate promoting stephens stuff, the articles are actually positive articles about stephen….
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Lanna Reply:
April 14th, 2012 at 1:37 am
@hmm,
I think you’re right. Vorys helping douchebag Stephen Pierce sue the wrong Dale Brown was a good story while it lasted, wasn’t it?
All the Exhibits attached to the Original Petition just show videos of Stephen Pierce and positive reviews of SPI. Nothing negative. I searched the email address from the handwritten note and found 730 poorly written blog posts about exercising, with links to other popular scam artists.
So now the story is that Stephen Pierce is suing an affiliate. That doesn’t really make him less of a douchebag, does it?
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HMM Reply:
April 14th, 2012 at 1:46 am
@Lanna, makes him and his lawyers even bigger douchebags
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Jack Reply:
April 14th, 2012 at 1:50 am
@Lanna, Scammer-wise, mr. Pierce maybe transcended his own potential by doing it.
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Spike Reply:
April 14th, 2012 at 4:13 am
@Lanna, Ahhh well… So much for my investigative journalism… :)
@HMM, thanks for that
At least I got it partly right as Mr Brown’s site was certainly intended to be one of those that use the title “Scam” as bait to draw people to their sites.
I did find this among “Dale Dupree’s” articles though
http://www.articlesbase.com/home-business-articles/why-did-stephen-pierce-stop-paying-affiliates-4100230.html
Why did Stephen Pierce stop paying affiliates? I do not know.. I know he owes me over $1100.00 from the past couple of months..
Would that be considered as being defamation?
The “Body Shaping” site here: http://www.body-shaping-exercise-program.com/ is registered to a Vanessa Brown, who is perhaps the “Vanessa Dupree” that appears in several other posts alongside Dale.
Even though this might not be a case of mistaken identity, I still believe Vorys Sater Seymour and Pease have got it wrong as they are suing a website for defaming Stephen Pierce when it clearly has been doing quite the opposite.
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Jack Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
@Spike,
I got excited about that maybe mr. Pierce could make the money for paying the affiliates by promoting Rich Schefren’s coaching when he sent out the people this idea-mail:
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but, maybe it’s not him being an affiliate, because I don’t see anything that says anything about it.
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_cartman_ Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
Dale and Vanessa…uhhuh…
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I enjoy all aspects of internet marketing and have been wanting to do my own thing for about 5 years, as a former union construction worker with laborers local union 1108 for 18 years
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# 12 April 2012 at 1:42 am
Have Vorys Sater Seymour and Pease got it wrong… again? @ @ Alley-CatAlley-Cat said:
[...] you’ve been following the Stephen Pierce story over at http://saltydroid.info/the-people-vs-stephen-pierce/ or my own minor contribution here http://alley-cat.info/resurrecting-the-good-guys/, you’ll know [...]
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# 12 April 2012 at 4:08 pm

Jack said:
Eagle might be able to get story in one of the London Papers
…posted above…posting here again so it can stand-out
“If anyone knows of any victims from the UK, please contact me. I will need their name(s). If there are any victims from the UK, I can get a story in one of the London papers.
Thanks,
Lynn”
http://www.eagleresearchassociates.org has contact-info on main-page.
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BranP Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
@Jack, NO customers in England, but he raped Australia and Malaysia.
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# 12 April 2012 at 4:28 pm

Spike said:
I followed up on my comment about the Dale Brown lawsuit with a post on my blog which did the pingback or is it a trackback thingy above.
A reader left the comment below so it would seem that Vorys Sater Seymour and Pease have truly fucked up :)
It does appear that Vorys got it wrong, and that they often do. I believe this guy because I think I know the ‘real’ Dale Brown, a former affiliate of Stephen Pierce.I am going to nose around and see what I find about him.
Having said that, I cannot imagine why Vorys thinks it is good law to reopen a wound that is 4 years old and has no merit. No wait! I forgot. The fact that a lawsuit has no merit is not a problem for them. Silly me.
The good news is that the Electronic Frontier Foundation has offered up three attorneys based in Texas who are free speech advocates and yearning for a shot at the new Anti-SLAPP law.
If you can get in touch with Dale, he can call one of these fine folks to represent him pro bono. Here’s two of them–
Crystal J. Parker
Jackson Walker L.L.P.
713-752-4217
Peter D. Kennedy
512 480-5764
http://www.gdhm.com
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SD Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:23 am
@Spike ::
Thanks … it’s so bizarre. Sad hand written response … and they don’t follow up on it and right the wrong?
There are some just silly stupid things about the other cases too. Epic incompetence!
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Jack Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 11:59 am
@Spike, Construction worker Dale Brown is so sadly cordial in the letter to these Attys ramping up his string of bad luck.
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Spike Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
@Jack, Totally agree. If what he says is true, Dale Brown must be wondering WTF he’s ever done to deserve the pile of shit that his life has become.
No job, no money, no electricity, soon no home!
And then a bunch of astoundingly incompetent lawyers in the form of Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease come along with some bullshit lawsuit…
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Lanna Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
@Spike,
Are the EFF attorneys willing to represent broke, former construction worker Dale Brown who says he has nothing to do with the website? Or do they just want to represent former scamming associate of Stephen Pierce Dale Brown who might’ve put up the website? I’m so confused about who the EFF is protecting nowadays.
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BranP Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
@Lanna, The attorney I spoke to would love to have Dale Brown, former construction worker, as a client. Or anyone else that SPI sues for defamation. They are all yearning for a shot at an Anti-SLAPP fight.
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Spike Reply:
April 13th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
@Lanna, I’m not sure either to be honest. If Dale Brown (construction worker) says the site isn’t his then he doesn’t need defending against defamation, as he didn’t write anything, but he certainly needs the help of a lawyer nonetheless.
It’s getting silly. This guy has probably got to pay for a lawyer to defend himself against something he didn’t do. Which will cost money he apparently doesn’t have. Is there any recourse for him to get his costs back?
There’s also an interesting discussion going on over at realscam.com. The Admin there (Soapboxmom) believes that it is likely that in Texas, Stephen Pierce would probably be treated as a limited public figure.
This is what Soapboxmom says this means:
If what the defendants in the lawsuits said is true that is a defense. If these are nothing more than harassment suits filed in an attempt to silence legitimate critics both Pierce and his attorney can be sanctioned.
Stephen Pierce has many legal hurdles to overcome. First the court must decide if he is simply a private individual, a limited public figure or in fact a public figure (celebrity) type. I am not a lawyer and the laws vary from state to state, but the point is the standard Pierce must meet to win a defamation claim will depend on how he is classified. If he is a limited public figure, which is how the clown that sued me, Tim Darnell, was classifed, the bar to meet is in fact very high. Opinion and hyberbole are not actionable. Pierce is, in a nutshell, going to have to find false statements of fact made by those he is suing for defamation.
To prove defamation he will have to provide clear documentation refuting what has been published about him. To prove damages his financial records, including tax returns will likely have to be produced. I suspect those will show he is down the commode financially and though he promises his marks great success he has had little personal success. I wonder if his attorney bothered tell him that those he sued will get almost everything but his used toilet paper?
I would bet these suits were filed for the purpose of spending his critics into silence. That often backfires in the worst way. Ergo, this thread!
You can see the thread here: http://www.realscam.com/f11/people-vs-stephen-pierce-1189/
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Thom Reply:
April 14th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
@Spike, Actually, Dale Brown the construction worker still WOULD need to defend against defamation, even if he is the wrong party. His defamation defense would be that he is not the Dale Brown in question. If he fails to respond, the court would take the suit’s claims at face value, there would be a default, and he would automatically lose, unfairly.
Maybe scam-fighter and good samaritan SoapBoxMom over at RealScam could help connect Dale Brown to one of those willing to help EFF attorneys. I think she may live in that neck of the woods.
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todd spi Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
@Thom, Dale Brown Dupree was an affiliate who didn’t get paid and posted a couple of complaints. I found one of them @ http://www.articlesbase.com/home-business-articles/why-did-stephen-pierce-stop-paying-affiliates-4100230.htm. I am guessing that this is the one that got him on the list. Don’t know if it is also true that he is a currently unemployed construction worker but i imagine he would love some probono help. I found these addresses online:
vabrwn@gmail.com or brownscoastal@gmail.com. maybe there are others. Hope this helps
BTW, I invite one and all to my new website at http://www.stephen-pierce-exposed-comze.com and encourage you to post or link back to it.
I will be visiting you again and contributing as much as I can to expose this guy.
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Jack Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
@todd spi, Reposting link to article:
Why Did Stephen Pierce Stop Paying Affiliates
So mr. Pierce has some magical way to show he paid affiliates who didn’t get paid it must seem like.
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Lanna Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
@todd spi and Jack,
That’s why I had deja vu when I saw Dale’s photo! Last week I commented on a few of Dale’s Articlesbase posts with info about the lawsuit Rosenberg’s preparing. Thank goodness! I was worried I was getting a brain tumor from all the high fructose corn syrup in the Wildwood soda Debbie recommended over on the fake secretaries’ forum!
This situation is unfortunate for Dale, but it’s probably a good lesson for people thinking about being affiliates of anyone covered here. You won’t get paid, and you will get sued.
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Angry Ant Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 12:14 am
@todd spi,
Nice site. I’ve registered so that I can post but no reply email. Technical issue or am I impatient?
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_cartman_ Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 9:17 pm
@Todd,
Don’t know if it is also true that he is a currently unemployed construction worker but i imagine he would love some probono help.
yeah…who cares about truth…even frauds needs a little charity now and then…let’s get him free representation…and while we are at it, maybe we can take up a collection to send him to Hawaii…
Dale Brown Dupree tells the “truths”…
In Dec. of 2008 I came across a program call mlm lead system pro, this program came to us at the right time because our affiliate marketing business was doing ok (about $1500.00 per month) but it was not organized at all we had website all over the place going everywhere.
MLM lead system pro is a marketing system for those that are involved in mlm, but we used it to put our affiliate programs into and to build our list as well. With using this system our sales doubled in about six months.
another time he said….
In Dec. of 2008 I came across a program call mlm lead system pro, this program came to us at the right time because our affiliate marketing business was doing ok (about $3000.00 per month) but it was not organized at all we had website all over the place going everywhere.
MLM lead system pro is a marketing system for those that are involved in mlm, but we used it to put our affiliate programs into and to build our list as well. With using this system our sales tripled in about six months.
yeah…he definitely earned the right to bitch about not getting paid his cut of Pierce’s victims money…
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Lanna Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
@Thom,
Judge Ginsberg ordered this case to mediation on March 20. It’s my understanding that mediation will help level the playing field between pro se DB and Vorys’ experienced trial lawyers – or ginger rodeo clowns – whoever’s not too busy with important beverage committee decisions at Vorys that day.
It’s looking like DB was actually an affiliate playing the MikeFilsaimeSucks.com game and not a legitimate “‘gripe’ site,” as Mike’s lawyers put it. Except, unlike the MF case, it looks like all the diverted traffic was funneled back to Stephen Pierce? I just don’t know what to think about this case anymore.
Anyone who’s actually communicated with an EFF lawyer, you can do the http://courtecom.dallascounty.org/pav/ lookup for case DC1201053 and send DB an email at the address he lists at the end of the handwritten Original Answer – General Denial document.
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Jack Reply:
April 15th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
@Lanna, It could be a money-back-Plus case for the EFF:
Turning the Tables on Attorneys’ Fees: Offers of Settlement Under Rule 167
RULE 68. OFFER OF JUDGMENT
The possible “plus” is from Soapboxmom at realscam:
“§ 10.001. SIGNING OF PLEADINGS AND MOTIONS. The signing of a pleading or motion as required by the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure constitutes a certificate by the signatory that to the signatory’s best knowledge, information, and belief, formed after reasonable inquiry: (1) the pleading or motion is not being presented for any improper purpose, including to harass or to cause unnecessary delay or needless increase in the cost of litigation; (2) each claim, defense, or other legal contention in the pleading or motion is warranted by existing law or by a nonfrivolous argument for the extension, modification, or reversal of existing law or the establishment of new law; (3) each allegation or other factual contention in the pleading or motion has evidentiary support or, for a specifically identified allegation or factual contention, is likely to have evidentiary support after a reasonable opportunity for further investigation or discovery; and (4) each denial in the pleading or motion of a factual contention is warranted on the evidence or, for a specifically identified denial, is reasonably based on a lack of information or belief. Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 137, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
§ 10.002. MOTION FOR SANCTIONS. (a) A party may make a motion for sanctions, describing the specific conduct violating Section 10.001. (b) The court on its own initiative may enter an order describing the specific conduct that appears to violate Section 10.001 and direct the alleged violator to show cause why the conduct has not violated that section. (c) The court may award to a party prevailing on a motion under this section the reasonable expenses and attorney’s fees incurred in presenting or opposing the motion, and if no due diligence is shown the court may award to the prevailing party all costs for inconvenience, harassment, and out-of-pocket expenses incurred or caused by the subject litigation. Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 137, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
§ 10.004. VIOLATION; SANCTION. (a) A court that determines that a person has signed a pleading or motion in violation of Section 10.001 may impose a sanction on the person, a party represented by the person, or both. (b) The sanction must be limited to what is sufficient to deter repetition of the conduct or comparable conduct by others similarly situated. (c) A sanction may include any of the following: (1) a directive to the violator to perform, or refrain from performing, an act; (2) an order to pay a penalty into court; and (3) an order to pay to the other party the amount of the reasonable expenses incurred by the other party because of the filing of the pleading or motion, including reasonable attorney’s fees.”
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Former employee Reply:
April 17th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
@Lanna, Done!!! He now has representation,
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Lanna Reply:
April 17th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
@Former employee,
Awesome sauce! You rock! Also, my faith in the EFF is partially restored!
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former employee Reply:
April 19th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Stephen Pierce What ever happened to the Mediated Settlement Agreement that was adopted in 2011.
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Angry Ant Reply:
April 26th, 2012 at 2:58 am
@Lanna,
Maybe this is a simple case of the weak getting stronger through support and scaring off the legalistic bully.
Great result at this point.
Maybe also more to come with Salty adding his weight to others’ cases?
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Lanna Reply:
April 26th, 2012 at 1:58 am
@Spike,
There’s a new document on the Dallas County court website for case DC1201053.
It was posted on 4/20 and called Notice of NonSuit, so at first I thought Legally Ginger had toked up and arrived in full rodeo clown regalia. However, it turns out Notice of NonSuit means the plaintiff is calling off the lawsuit – at least for now.
PLAINTIFFS’ NOTICE OF NON-SUIT
COME NOW Plaintiffs, Stephen Pierce and Stephen Pierce International, Inc., and file this Notice of Non-Suit dismissing without prejudice all claims brought against all Defendants to re-filing of same, pursuant to Rule 162 of the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure.
Plaintiffs no longer wish to pursue this action against Defendants herein and request a nonsuit without prejudice be entered in the above-referenced cause of action.
Respectfully submitted,
Paul B. Kerlin
Does this mean the matter was resolved at mediation?
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What the what Reply:
April 26th, 2012 at 11:40 am
@Lanna, the motion is to dismiss the suit “without prejudice”. The “without prejudice” part means that he can file again within the statute of limitations.
If the case had been settled it would have been dismissed “with prejudice” meaning that no suit on that issue could ever be brought again.
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What the what Reply:
April 26th, 2012 at 11:46 am
@Lanna @whatthewhat: correction, I haven’t actively practiced in a while and my law was a bit rusty. With a motion to voluntary non-suit, he could refile within the statutory period prescribed. (In Illinois you have to refile within one year, I did a quick search for Texas and didn’t see the time limit).
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# 13 April 2012 at 2:08 am

Spike said:
Hmmmm.. looks like it runs in the family :)
http://178.159.249.37/reviews/thinkblade-rosetta-pierce–thinkblade-rosetta-pierce-rosetta-shelley-bodewes-i-c659371.html
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# 13 April 2012 at 5:07 pm

Todd said:
Dale Brown Dupree is a former (?) affiliate of Stephen Pierce who posted some supportive articles about him and then, when he didn’t get paid, posted a couple of negative articles such as this one @ http://www.articlesbase.com/home-business-articles/why-did-stephen-pierce-stop-paying-affiliates-4100230.html.
Sorry, but I think that not getting paid is a really good reason to complain. stephen didn’t pay his affiliates for months and gave us one excuse after another, none of which would wash. When the staff was totally up in arms about the injustice and abuse of it all, he then went through this charade of having us create a big spreadsheet and total every affiliate and the amount owed. Good so far. Then he told us that he had paid them himself and like fools, we believed him—until the next day when those same affiliates called again and we eventually figured out that he paid no more than 20% of them. That was the final betrayal for me. Me and my co-workers took abuse from customers and affiliates every day.
See Stephen knows that affiliates are not coming for him over $300 or less. They do what they can to collect and move on. Affiliates are like fools. there’s another one born every minute.
I invite one and all to visit my website http://www.stephen-pierce-exposed.comze.com and post a comment or link back to it.
I will be back. I have been silent too long.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +4
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Todd's fan Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 10:35 am
@Todd, freckin awesome. way to go man!
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Anonymous Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
@Todd’s fan, you’re more than welcome
I’m just trying to do my part to help!
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Anonymous Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
@Todd, Heh, the first link is to Sequence, Inc., which is the website of Tracy Coenen, a forensic accountant. (http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2012/04/stephen-pierce-international-scam-or-bad-business-practices/)
Ms. Coenen is also behind the M.a.r.y.K.a.y. busting pinktruth.com.
Yay, the word is getting out!
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SD Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
@mirele ::
… and … Crystal Cox …
http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2012/04/crystal-cox-extortionist-you-decide/
… and most important and useful to me …
http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/02/posts-containing-information-about-mark-shurtleff/
… that’s fucking legit work right there.
Onetime :: a long long time ago :: I emailed Tracy and she ignored me. But I think eventually we’re gonna be BFFs.
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Wyrd Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 9:28 pm
@SD,
Onetime :: a long long time ago :: I emailed Tracy and she ignored me. But I think eventually we’re gonna be BFFs.
One would hope so.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Not A Stephen Pierce Fan Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
@Todd, I can’t visit your website. It says, “Your IP address is blocked by Stop Forum Spam.”
What’s funny is that I could only have been added to that blacklist for posting links about Stephen Pierce on other forums. Isn’t that ironic?
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Angry Ant Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
@Not A Stephen Pierce Fan,
This link works better.
http://stephen-pierce-exposed.comze.com/stephen-pierce-the-whole-truth-former-employee-speaks-out.html
The dashes between the words help.
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Not A Stephen Pierce Fan Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 7:37 pm
@Not A Stephen Pierce Fan, Ok it gave me a capture to fill out this time and I got in. Nice work, keep adding to it! (Applause!)
I just wish I knew what douchebag added me to some spam block list for helping get the word out to VICTIMS. That’s scummy, and it goes to show how hard it is to get the truth to people.
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Anonymous Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 7:41 pm
@Not A Stephen Pierce Fan, I dont use any anti-spam plugins so I am not sure why you would receive that page. looking into it now but I’m so far clueless as to why you would receive that message.
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Not A Stephen Pierce Fan Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
@, Probably then it’s just something the hosting company does automatically. No problem though because I did get in. :)
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Angry Ant Reply:
April 17th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
@Todd,
For the benefit of other posters here, I’m going on the record to confirm that during my time trying to get something out of Stephen Pierce – anything – Todd did try and help. Some progress was actually made after a long period on silence, but I suspect that “managerial pressures” precluded the promised product being developed. The end result was nothing was delivered for the $20,000 that was paid but I only blame Stephen Pierce for that result.
I’ll say thanks to Todd for what was achieved, but I’ll NEVER say anything nice about Stephen Pierce! Never.
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Todd Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 12:57 am
@Angry Ant, I appreciate the nice words, and the forgiveness of being part of his organization at all.
I did try to help you, and remember our skype conversation as well as my attempts to get stephen to help you and actually provide what you purchased (if such a miracle of materializing a dream is possible?).
I tried my best to help everyone that I spoke with on a daily basis. I even rewrote the system manuals a number of times to help them actually make sense.
Sadly I’m not an internet millionaire, or even close to a “guru” yet most of what people paid for their “gold” and “silver” packages was written and supported by me based on stephens’ antiquated system that was probably “borrowed” from a number of other systems that had long been used up before his…
I’m sure that I’m probably Stephens public enemy #1 by this time due to using my real name and revealing as much as I have, so to anyone afraid of him or hiding for fear of his wrath, let my example give you strength. You dont need to use your real name, just join the fight you are not alone!
“A fight is not won by one punch or kick. Either learn to endure or hire a bodyguard.” -Bruce Lee
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# 15 April 2012 at 6:24 pm

former employee said:
Hell Shit flying again. Stephen Pierce supena 1 person and 1 business. About the person, Stephen wants to know what the person and his mother-in-law talk about. Remember the 63 year mother-in-law who mowed the lawn to save him money and the father-in-law who bailed the ghetto snake from going to jail. This snake is going to jail
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# 16 April 2012 at 3:43 pm

Frank said:
MORE TROUBLE FOR PIERCE? Stephen Pierce may have just violated a slew of government regulations, and this could further support action against him.
I’ve previously commented here about these regulations (as a weapon against scammers in general), and it had slipped my mind until I noticed it referenced on the “Stephen Pierce Exposed” website mentioned above.
In this case, Stephen Pierce could really be in a LOT of additional hot water:
The U.S. government *AND* many states have STRICT “business opportunity disclosure laws” which require business preregistration and disclosure, and have very stringent requirements for anyone selling business opportunities. For example, in California, you must register in advance with the State Attorney General and get checked out, among other things.
It’s also important to note that both federal laws, and the laws of Stephen’s home state of Texas would apply, *as well as* the laws of ALL states in which he has had a customer or even just soliticited to. That opens a massive pandora’s box of regulations!
- FTC Business Opportunity Disclosure Document (PDF link on this page):
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/franchise/netbusop.shtm
(Did Pierce provide all the required information noted above, in advance, and tell ALL his customers about the CFTC order against him? No? Oops…)
- List of states with additional requirements, provided by the FTC:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/franchise/netbusop.shtm
Most likely, due to his broad sales and marketing, Pierce would be required to have met the requirements for EVERY state on this list, plus the federal requirements.
- Texas requirements are explained in a PDF file on this page:
http://www.canteyhanger.com/content.php?page=legalissue_detail&id=19
- California requirements (summary):
http://oag.ca.gov/consumers/general/samp
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Jack Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
@Frank, It’s a bigtime, long love affair of many stephen-pierce and friends people to violate bizop disclosure rules for many years til now.
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Frank Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
@Jack, True, but it probably won’t hurt to have a big, long laundry list of evidence on hand for whenever somebody in authority finally does decide to make Stephen Pierce their bitch.
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# 16 April 2012 at 8:17 pm

Dimitri said:
Stephen Pierce just posted a new status on Facebook. LOL.
–begin quote–
It’s hard to stay encouraged when depression is gripping on you,
It’s hard to find the courage, when the weight of the world feels like it sitting on you.
Pressure so tight you feel like you’re about to pop,
But keep it together, dig deep and don’t stop.
I’ve been there, done that,
Fell hard and bounced back.
And it’s true, you’ll bounce back too,
Just do what you gotta do and stay true to what’s really you.
Walk the hell out before you sell out,
Because giving in is prison with no bail outs.
You’ll never regret going for it and fallin’,
But you’re sure to regret selling out your lifes callin’.
So it doesn’t matter what you lose you’ll gain it back again,
You’ll have friends again,
You’ll have money again,
You’ll have fun again,
You’ll have love again,
You’ll have time again,
You’ll feel good again,
And yep, you’ll fall and fail again,
But just begin again… it’s the only opportunity for you to win again!
–end quote–
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Jack Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
@Dimitri, Then…[Hits board over head]
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Luther Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
@Jack, Hi Jack, I did not know that Mr. Stephen “Roc” Pierce was a psychic. Cause he predicted:
“And yep, you’ll fall and fail again”
I guess when he says “you’ll” he means “I’ll.” But I’m pretty sure “fall” means “fall” and “fail” means “fail” though.
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former employee Reply:
April 17th, 2012 at 7:06 am
That mother-in-law Stephen Pierce is suing made several Doctor’s appointments for him and he cancelled all of them. Will somebody get that fool to the psycho ward.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 7th, 2012 at 8:25 pm
@Dimitri, wOW thats sonic genius in action. I never knew Stephen wrote poetry. Er… that is I never knew he wrote such unbelievably awful moronic poetry. But hey, one of the Beastie Boys just died maybe he can fill in for a few months while he is waiting for his prison sentence.
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# 16 April 2012 at 8:37 pm

Jack said:
Then…[Hits board over head]
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Luther Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 11:11 pm
@Jack, Hi Jack. That makes twice in two comments that you hit yourself over your head with the same board. I think maybe you should work on making your head stronger or get some softer boards, maybe. Or maybe you could just hit someone else over the head with the board, like whoever sold it to you, then they’d forget you owed them for it.
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Jack Reply:
April 16th, 2012 at 11:28 pm
@Luther, I think it’s that I need to get more head strong so I’m going to go back to watching this one:

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Alison Reply:
April 17th, 2012 at 9:41 am
@Jack, It reminds me of the old header on Basic Instructions (the webcomic); it’s a picture of the author, Scott Meyer, standing behind a random guy with a giant board with “knowledge” written on it. The header reads, “Knowledge: You WILL Learn.”
Sometimes it takes a whack to the back of the head, or the emotional equivalent, to get a lesson across. ;)
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# 16 April 2012 at 9:50 pm

I wantz 2B rich said:
LMAO! I wanted to write another ditty, but I can’t get that board out of my head. No pun intended.
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# 17 April 2012 at 8:38 am

Sick of Stephen said:
I’m so sick of all the people that like his dumb facebook messages. We need to do a facebook ad targeting his fb friends. They obviously don’t know the scumbag they are “liking”
WINNER!! ::   +7
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Fake Likes Reply:
April 19th, 2012 at 3:54 am
@Sick of Stephen,
Five bucks at Fiverr will get you fake likes, fake Twitter followers, Google pluses, etc.
Easy to manipulate social media.
  +3
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# 17 April 2012 at 9:53 am

I wantz 2B rich said:
I couldn’t help myself. Ode to Nipple-Pierce:
Of course you feel stressed
Of course you feel depressed
Your world’s crashing in
You’ll soon pay for your sins
And should you contemplate skipping bail
Consider the time you’ll spend in jail
In addition to sentencing for multiple counts
Of fraud – oh my – how the charges mount
Should you choose not to consider that now
You’ll have time to contemplate, anyhow.
You can contemplate your nipples, your muscles, your navel
You can contemplate your success – if you are able
In jail you won’t be the alpha dog
You’ll be wishing you’d never seen this blog
Maybe, just maybe, you’ll learn to regret
The harm you’ve done to people now in debt
I’m being optimistic, I’d like you to know,
My hope is you’ll change for the better, although
It isn’t very likely. The only improvement you’ve made
Is to get better at scamming and at getting paid
With others’ hard-earned money that you don’t deserve
The result? A cage – a cage with a perve
Who’ll be happy to see some fresh meat
And will cuddle you at night and think you’re sweet
When you feel defeat, after you fail
When you cry at night, while you’re in jail
Will you rise again? Will you achieve success?
Many hope not. Me too, I confess.
Nipple-Pierce, I know you only by your reputation,
In my opinion, you’ve earned a prison vacation.
WINNER!! ::   +13
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# 17 April 2012 at 10:13 am

former employee said:
Hello people all those lawsuits stephen pierce sent out he can’t prove anything written by the scumbags.He is going overseas to supena records from 2009 so that he can HANG his wife or KILL his wife The asshole is still married and the corporation is suing her under her maiden name stephen pierce spent $11,000 plus banging the Get Motivated student in 2010
You are going to jail
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Angry Ant Reply:
April 18th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
@former employee,
It is well established that the good officers at the McKinney Police station are all but impossible to get moving on some matters but “threat to kill” is a crime. No argument there. This should be a police matter.
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# 18 April 2012 at 7:08 am

former employee said:
Stephen Pierce’s mother asked him for a few dollars for father’s birthday party. Reply from Stephen “NO”. Not to worry the mother-in-law sent the dollars from father-in-law social security check..This is the same mother-in-law you are suing Stephen Pierce.
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_cartman_ Reply:
April 20th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
@former employee,
It wasn’t his money to give, it wasn’t his money to spend.
As far as I am concerned, it appears people at that office were complicit [[thank you Todd for clarifying that]], so it really doesn’t matter if Pierce shared his ill gotten gains on relatives [[or spent it all on crap]], it doesn’t change the fact that Pierce is a piece of shit, and nothing will elevate that. Furthermore, anyone who knowingly helped him [[when they knew what was going on]], is not much better.
You “employees” come after things blow up to “save” the fucking day. I heard you guys complain more about affiliates not getting paid, his wife being ripped off [[funny, considering she is currently pushing $997 scams of her own]], employees being abused, and Pierce not sharing, and you all just kind of gloss over the fact that innocent victims paid the price.
What hypocrisy! You “cared” about affiliates, because if they don’t get paid, they don’t push Pierce’s crap, and if they don’t push that crap, you guys are out of a job [[nothing more]]. And you guys “helping” the victims, just kept them from complaining [[standard boiler room tactics]] until it was to late for recourse. You weren’t helping them, you were helping yourselves, and I’m fucking tired of hearing how you predators were “victimized”.
PS – The individuals who think that the anger from these accomplices being ripped off is worth a thumbs up, let me know, because frankly I want absolutely no association with anyone that finds that worthy of praise.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +6
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Lanna Reply:
April 20th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@_cartman_,
I’ve been giving the former employees’ comments the thumbs up because I appreciate them providing more intel on and ammo against Pierce. The enemy of our enemy . . . should keep blabbing about our enemy.
Similarly, I’m glad that Dale Brown now has EFF representation because that means the mediation is less likely to be a slam-dunk win for Stephen Pierce. I guess that means more money will go to Vorys and less money will be left for the plaintiffs in the class action lawsuit, but I really like the idea of a slow, grinding defeat for cocky assholes Pierce and Vorys.
WINNER!! ::   +11
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anonymous 2 Reply:
April 21st, 2012 at 8:57 am
@_lanna_, agree. Let’s encourage them to tell it all. this guy is a crook and we all need to band together to report him to the FTC or the Texas attorney general. ANYONE have any contacts there? seems that the good customers have reported him but so far no action. how to speed that up?
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anonymous Reply:
April 21st, 2012 at 9:26 am
@_cartman_, i agree, this is not family court, but last year staffers stayed about 4 months and either quit disgusted or got hounded out the door for confronting the boss about his double dealing. they do care about customers but employees who try to help them get sued, so how much can you expect of them? they left and won’t support him. that all most of them can do. who’s going to pay the whopping legal bills? the same customers they tried to help sure aren’t. just asking, cause there would be more consumer heros here is some agency could protect them.
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 21st, 2012 at 2:20 pm
@_cartman_, I agree that some percentage of Pierce’s employees and affiliates – like any other cross section of humankind – won’t care about anyone except themselves.
I’m sure some believed in what Pierce was selling, though, just like many of us here believed in some form of fairy dust.
And a few very likely saw the light and developed compassion for others once they were Pierce’d in the backside.
I’m no happier than you that some human beings have no other purpose in life than to screw others and take, take, take. I won’t throw them a pity-party.
I am happy, though, that anyone is willing to speak up, whatever motivation prompts it. Even if self-serving, it will help prevent someone else from falling prey to similiar predators down the line.
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 27th, 2012 at 1:40 am
@_cartman_, noticed your new avatar recently…are you still here? Hope so.
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Jack Reply:
April 27th, 2012 at 8:52 am
@I wantz 2B rich, He changed back again to “pulled all support for saltydroid.info”.
Unfortunately, getting data & info needed sometimes isn’t as clean and easy as people might want and why the many big cases/actions are won by getting ex-cons/criminals to turn.
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SD Reply:
April 27th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
@Jack ::
Gosh that’s sad :: now that’s on like 250 posts … and some of the funniest comments. Alas.
But this fight isn’t fun :: or easy … and it’s exhausting. Feels like the same shit every day for years … because it is the same shit every day for years. People who aren’t having fun anymore should move on to something else. Of course they’re free to do it without giving me the finger on the way out … but I guess that’s asking too much.
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 29th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
@SD, I didn’t know if copyright cops came after Cartman’s avatar or if he was just taking a time out. I haven’t been here that long, and there are times that this stuff can just totally mess with my head. While I think the majority of the people here have a higher tolerance for it than I do, I can see how it could trip your trigger.
And Cartman, if you’re lurkin’, you have as much right to your beliefs and opinions as anyone else here, and I don’t think anyone disputes that. With the exception of the occasional troll and occasional mole, we’re on the same side – we’s the good guys – even if we have different viewpoints about how to get ‘er done.
I believe that some of the lite version of scamsters finally stop blocking out the truth of what they’re doing after coming to this site, or to other sites that spell out what’s really going on. In all honesty, had I realized how easy it was to scam people out of so much money before I came to this site, I easily could have done the same – I’m that financially challenged.
That was my plan. To create some kind of product to hawk to people from information I got for free or cheap. And to do some affiliate marketing for the people who do make a lot of money selling fairy dust. ‘cept I wasn’t convinced it was fairy dust, just thought some of the associations between the IM/MMO crowd were tweaked. I had to open my eyes to the fact that it’s a big circuit. They take turns promoting the same old crap in a new package. And they all get a piece of it from existing customers and mailing lists.
Cartman, you already know this. What you might not realize is the degree of service you contribute to people you don’t even know. If you and others here hadn’t made the choice to give up time and to share information, I probably would have purchased something else. And I would have started promoting some of the IM predators for a commission.
Don’t let the dark side of it get to you….
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Wyrd Reply:
April 28th, 2012 at 12:16 am
@Jack,
Please assist me with my n00b confusion…
Is @_cartman_ one of the “half-in, half-out” folks?
Has he chosen, for now at least, to turn away from the stalwart Droid in favor of… what? like pals on warrior-forum or clickbank or somewherez like that?
/me has much confusion and lack of understanding and is feeling very, very clueless.
And I was looking forward to him joining this Minions 2.0 thing.
Darn.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Cary the Label Guy Reply:
April 28th, 2012 at 4:34 am
@Wyrd, Why such air-grabbing, awkward public speculation? That doesn’t describe Cartman at all. It’s kind of insulting really, like making totally random, highly unflattering guesses from a public stage (without any supporting evidence) about someone sitting right out in the audience in front of you.
Cartman has always been a staunch anti-scammer, period, and his hundreds of comments all over the blog support that. Just look around. The exchange above sums up his displeasure: he was not keen on cutting slack for anyone involved in the Stephen Pierce b.s. machine. That’s it.
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Lanna Reply:
April 28th, 2012 at 8:10 am
@Wyrd,
No, no, no, no. Exactly the opposite.
It’s like Cary the Label Guy says. Cartman’s against the scammers and anyone who rides on their coattails. He expressed displeasure regarding getting affiliate Dale Brown free representation (here) and then in this exchange about people voting up former employees’ comments (here).
I actually agree with his sentiment and voted up his comments. Affiliates, employees and family, your complicity is not forgotten or forgiven. However, to me, that doesn’t preclude us working together to get justice.
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Jack Reply:
April 28th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
@Wyrd, Just saw comment. Ditto previous-2 comments.
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Wyrd Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
@Cary the Label Guy,
Why such air-grabbing, awkward public speculation?
‘cuz I’m dumb like a n00b?
That doesn’t describe Cartman at all.
I’m sorry. I’ve been here since last August (I think), but I still don’t know my way around very well.
I can tell @SD thinks @_cartman_ is cool (which should have been enough for me to know that @_cartman isn’t close with scammers, but–) @_cartman_ often has a lot of good info. I thought maybe that meant he was on warriorforum or something and that, that helped to provide him with sources. In my n00bishness, I obviously misread and misinterpreted what people wrote. And then there was @_cartman_’s silence, and silence is kind of hard to interpret.
It’s kind of insulting really, like making totally random, highly unflattering guesses from a public stage (without any supporting evidence) about someone sitting right out in the audience in front of you.
Again–sorry about that.
Cartman has always been a staunch anti-scammer, period, and his hundreds of comments all over the blog support that. Just look around. The exchange above sums up his displeasure: he was not keen on cutting slack for anyone involved in the Stephen Pierce b.s. machine. That’s it.
How ironic. And here I had always thought of The Salty Droid as being the one who would cut scammers no slack. That is–I wouldn’t expect @SD to cut any slack to the ones that didn’t deserve it.
@SD being in possession of most of the information, I generally defer to his judgement of who “deserves” to have a verbal “smack down” put upon them. But perhaps @_cartman_ is in possession of as much information about certain scamming individuals as @SD.
So, ok, casting random accusations was a stupid and insulting thing for me to do. Again, I’m sorry about that. I just couldn’t understand why anyone would react to a Minions 2.0 announcement by withdrawing all support rather than providing equal or greater support. The only thing I could think of at the time was that it was someone that was *half in half out* that didn’t want to be forced to take a more consolidated position.
It hadn’t occurred to me that it might be the opposite–that it might be someone who has an uncompromising moral position on the issue of scammers, and that, that person sees The Salty Droid as coming from a compromised moral position of having too much sympathy for at least some scammers.
I get that having to judge on a case-by-case basis makes things morally complicated.
But in my experience, having a strict moral code with absolutely no gray area and no exceptions causes a lot of problems.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Cary the Label Guy Reply:
April 30th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
@Wyrd, You’re not “dumb like a n00b,” you were just meandering out loud, in comment form. Meandering, as we all know, is a great form of exercise – almost as effective as free weights – but for your own safety, it’s always good to have a spotter.
I’d also recommend the classic textbook, “The Joy of Silent Meandering,” by Albert Q. Random, Jr. Alternatively, there is the well-regarded “Doubleday Encyclopedia of Non-Directed Questions,” and its companion volume, “Anticipated Answers.”
Now, I really don’t think I’d say that SD has sympathy for “some scammers.” I’d call it strategic focus, because there are only so many hours in a robot’s day.
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Madge Crikey Reply:
April 28th, 2012 at 12:00 am
@_Cartman_, Oh Mr. Cartman, what in tarnation are we gonna do with you young fella? Why, me and Mr. Crikey were just readin some of your comments about that airheaded Maria Andros and we were laughing so hard my dog, Spitbucket, came running in to see what was going on. I guess Spitbucket thought Mr. Crikey was getting frisky or something, but at our age getting frisky is fishing for loose change in the couch cushions at the same time.
Anyhow Mr. Cartman, you best not be disappearing from around here cause me and Mr. Crikey enjoy what you have to say. Mr. Crikey’s nodding his head to that right now, cause I always read what I type out loud and I can see the top of his head over the potato chip bag.
WINNER!! ::   +7
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Wanderlost Reply:
April 28th, 2012 at 4:23 am
Cartman 2.0- I liked the older, funnier 1.0 version better. I gave your comment a thumbs down. Salty is about more than just exposing the big scammers. He’s also about giving the victims – who very often come here as scammers-in-training – a chance to recover their humanity, their dignity, and move away from the dark side. Personally, I’m very damned grateful not to have had my nose rubbed in my own stupidity.
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# 20 April 2012 at 12:09 pm

Ex-Employee said:
I want to comment on the continuing expose of Stephen Pierce international and Impulsive Profits, both owned by Texas based internet marketer Stephen A. Pierce. The three former customers who complained online about their inability to get either service/product/support or refund were typical.
Apparently, the version of the contact that gives you only 3 days to request a refund fails to mention that you may not receive your log in information or materials for weeks or even months. Forcing the point will get you on the refund “list”, but getting Stephen Pierce to actually approve the refund and send the money is another hurdle. Stephen Pierce himself has to approve every single refund, refusing to give anyone in his company the authority to do so based on some standard policy or procedure.
Instead he put employees in the awkward position of having to hold back the flood of complaints with excuses and delay tactics. When neither the employee nor the customer can take it any longer, Attorney Kevin Vela got involved. Customers credit Vela with enabling the fraud to continue with his own threats of defamation lawsuits. In fact, Vela actually got customers to inform on former employees in exchange for their refund. Aside from the legal ethics involved, that is an extraordinary requirement for a simple refund when the company didn’t give you a product or service in the first place!
This torture is meted out to consumers who have already had their trust destroyed and their persistence tested to the extreme. Most customers just give up.
I’m sorry,. But that scenario played out dozens maybe hundreds of times does not sound like the working of a legitimate business to me. Making former customers beg can only hurt a company’s reputation and provoke customers to anger and action that they might not otherwise have taken.
 Treat too many consumers with this callous disregard, and they will fight back.
The same can be said of employees. Treat too many of them to intimidation and legal action, and you bind them together into a force that is stronger than the sum of its parts. Those folks can bury a fella, Stephen. Back off.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +2
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Todd Reply:
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:09 pm
@Ex-Employee and @ I wantz 2B rich
This brings back vivid memories of my time at SPI.
I was just as sold as a customer at first, I’ve seen plenty of “Opportunities” in my days before then, and would have never even wanted to work for that type of company without feeling that the person and product were different.
I guess it comes from relating (hopefully I guess) to the rags-to-riches story of someone who I thought might be a “mentor”. I’d bet most customers have the exact same view. He’s a great man on the outside, speaking words that inspire and give the image of someone who has “made it”.
It was this “inspiration” that kept me with the company nearly a year. During my time there I tried to keep faith that what I was doing and teaching customers would work for me (and them in the process).
In the end I could no longer continue working for him because I felt that the product sold was misleading and hurting a majority of the customers who purchased, often borrowing, using their last savings or retirement to invest into what seems to be a “sure thing”…
(My experience and resignation are described in my original post at http://stephenpierce.info/stephen-pierce-the-whole-truth/ )
Just know that MOST of the people I worked with in my time there had a conscience and a soul. Most ended up resigning because of this. Although Most were “bribed” for their silence by a legal contract and a final “buyout fee” I never signed such an agreement, which Im sure he’s kicking himself for not doing right about now. At the end of my time there, I probably would have taken such a buyout as like the rest, I just wanted to get the whole experience behind me. Now though, I’m glad I didnt as It appears to me from the response so far, that people are rallying behind my example.
I hope that my actions bring justice for the customers I could not help. I think that I wanted things with stephen to be real, just as much as a customer who purchases his products.
You can see my actual resignation letter at http://stephenpierce.info/my-resignation-letter to get a good idea about what it was like for me working at SPI.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +1
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# 21 April 2012 at 8:32 pm

fb post said:
stephens FB post today – he is hiding behind religion – this helps rope people in who think he is a “godly” man – when he is far from it – sad
I am the temple of the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor. 6: 19
I am an ambassador for Christ. 2 Cor.5: 20
I am free from condemnation Romans 8: 1
I am more than a conqueror Romans 8: 17
I am in the palm of the Lord’s Hand Isa. 49: 16
I am covered by the shadow of His Hand Isa. 51: 6
I am in God’s Hand and none can pluck me out John 10:28
I am delivered from sin Romans 6: 7
I am free from weaknesses and diseases. Matt.8: 17
I am complete in Him. Col.2: 10
I am delivered from the power of darkness Col. 1: 13
I am accepted in Him Eph. 1: 6
I am dead to sin and alive to God in Christ.Rom.6:11
I am seated in heavenly places in Christ. Eph. 2: 6
When you know who you are, it doesn’t matter what others say you are.
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Jack Reply:
April 23rd, 2012 at 5:58 pm
@fb post, Even “better” is full-posting here
“Who are you?
I am both cause and effect.
I am both the creator and the created.
I am both the problem and the solution.
I am both the before and the after.
I am both the beginning and the end.
I am who God says I am.
I am the temple of the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor. 6: 19
I am an ambassador for Christ. 2 Cor.5: 20
I am free from condemnation Romans 8: 1
I am more than a conqueror Romans 8: 17
I am in the palm of the Lord’s Hand Isa. 49: 16
I am covered by the shadow of His Hand Isa. 51: 6
I am in God’s Hand and none can pluck me out John 10:28
I am delivered from sin Romans 6: 7
I am free from weaknesses and diseases. Matt.8: 17
I am complete in Him. Col.2: 10
I am delivered from the power of darkness Col. 1: 13
I am accepted in Him Eph. 1: 6
I am dead to sin and alive to God in Christ.Rom.6:11
I am seated in heavenly places in Christ. Eph. 2: 6
When you know who you are, it doesn’t matter what others say you are.”
I think it’s he made it with Bible Dice which I think maybe is like the Bible Magic 8-ball. I asked to tell me about mr. Pierce and it said:
“Proverbs 26:11 – As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.”
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Anonymous Reply:
April 25th, 2012 at 8:53 am
@fb post, I could be wrong, Mr. Pierce, but I think those promises belong to those who follow the Lord in thought and deed. Sorry, but you need a major attitude adjustment before you qualify.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 7th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
@Anonymous, … a brain transplant would help too.
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I wantz 2B rich Reply:
April 25th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
@fb post, I think God’s the only one who can help him now. Have you noticed no one has posted a comment about NP acknowledging he’s done any wrong to these people, or any expression of remorse?
Even if he had, were I scammed out of thousands of dollars, I don’t think I’d be able to forgive him.
All this scripture makes me wonder if it’s a sign that he’s off his rocker – what he’s quoting is not congruent with his behavior. For whatever we might have to say about Daniel Amen, MD, I’ll bet a SPECT scan will show some serious anomalies. Not that such a finding would excuse the behavior, but I for one would be curious to see what’s going on in his brain, aside from calculated, devious plans to defraud others.
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anonymous Reply:
April 28th, 2012 at 9:56 am
@I wantz 2B rich, I know the pierced-nipple, and he doesn’t apologize because he has done nothing wrong. those folks didn’t follow his plan, that’s their fault. if they had his determination, focus and obviously superior intelligence and did everything the great Oz told them to do in that book, they too would be milionaires.
In fact, i would not call his behavior calculated or devious cause that implies that he is consciously aware of the damage he is doing at the time he is doing it. No, i think he is so out of touch, so totally self-absorbed, so sure he is right and the rest of us are wrong, that he just doesn’t consider the option that he might be wrong. that’s his story and he is sticking to it.
What’s that saying I heard? “It’s not hard for him to admit he’s wrong. it’s just hard for him to imagine it.”
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# 23 April 2012 at 5:31 am

G said:
Mr. Droid…i’ve said it before…and I’ll say it again: One day, when I am grown up (old) I want to be Obi-wan to your R2DFUCKSCAMMERSx100s.
I’ve linked to you from my fb and posted amazon review of nipple-s ‘work’.
I wish I had more time.
WINNER!! ::   +7
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Anonymous Reply:
April 25th, 2012 at 8:51 am
@G, Thank you for doing anything! each one counts!
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# 24 April 2012 at 6:57 pm

Terrance said:
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
After reading the article.. it made some sense until it just turned into profanity, based on nothing factual. Just a witch hunt for anyone dubbed to be a “scammer”. Then following on to read the comments is even more disgusting, nothing factual just profanity and people with nothing better to do than to find some poor scapegoat to take their problems out on. I write this completely objective after coming across this sad web page..
LOSER!! ::   -6
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Jack Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 12:43 am
@Terrance, “Nobody’s sharper than Marko the Pencil when it comes to helping students learn to read for meaning”…

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Wyrd Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 11:06 pm
@Jack,
That’s awesome. There are so many people that could benefit from that talking pencil!
He’s much more helpful than Clippy.

–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Jack Reply:
May 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 am
@Wyrd, lol. R.I.P. Clippy.
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Yakaru Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 5:50 am
@Terrance,
I suspect Jack’s answer might be a bit beyond your current reading & comprehension levels, so I fill some of the detail for you. In order to show that the above post is “based on nothing factual” a good way to start would be to identify a fact which is contained in the article, and then add supplemental information to show that it is false.
Starting with just one fact is a good way, then continue with the rest of the relevant facts, until you have shown that all the relevant facts are false.
However, if you can’t find anywhere to start, maybe it’s best *not* to just hurry on to the conclusion and hope no one will notice.
WINNER!! ::   +7
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Anonymous Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 7:23 pm
@Yakaru, Let’s give Stephen a chance to prove us wrong. Stephen, jump in here and prove that you didn’t promise to talk 1-2-1 to students/customers and then just not do it.
Did all those former employees just dream that up? Did that not happen?
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Angry Ant Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
@Anonymous,
With the greatest of respect, you are out of your cotton picking mind if you think that Stephen Pierce will do anything for anyone AFTER they have paid him their money.
It will not happen!
After more than four years of emails and telephone calls and broken promises from Stephen Pierce, many of them personally given, nothing happens. Ever. He will never commit to a deadline and never come up with the goods.
Don’t believe me? Go and buy one of his products and then update us each year on how it’s going.
I’ll see you in court Stephen as I have already registered for the class action. Bring it on.
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Lance Reply:
May 3rd, 2012 at 12:27 am
@Angry Ant, I’m 102.9% certain that @anonymous was being entirely cynical with that line of questioning.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:39 am
@Anonymous,
There appears to be a concerted effort to indicate Pierce is a scammer because he didn’t deliver the goods. Good on you anonmyous.
Perhaps those looking can go to Alicia Lyttle and get the satisfaction they were looking for from Pierce. She is making $1,440,000 per year (before commissions) on a few thousand residual members. Imagine what they could do if they put some effort into it.
The reason people are not making money on the internet, is that they are not hiring mentors.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/WEHQ-Interviews/Alicia_LyttleExpert_Advice.mp4
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Anonymous Reply:
May 3rd, 2012 at 6:43 am
@,
http://s3.amazonaws.com/WEHQ-Interviews/Alicia_LyttleExpert_Advice.mp4
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anonymous Reply:
May 4th, 2012 at 9:21 am
@, You complete idiot. Stephen Pierce did not pay his own bills when he had the money. He refused to provide service when he had the staff to do it. AFTER she left him, until today, she is responsible for her customers and he is responsible for his.
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Albert Tross Reply:
May 5th, 2012 at 5:44 am
@Anonymous said:
“There appears to be a concerted effort to indicate Pierce is a scammer because he didn’t deliver the goods.”
Appears? Concerted effort? Actually, no effort is needed. Stephen Pierce provided all the “indication” needed, in the form of documented scamming.
Not only was he selling bullshit, he wasn’t even delivering the bullshit he was selling. Why did Stephen Pierce not deliver his bullshit? Was he keeping all the bullshit for himself? Did he think he would run out of bullshit? And if he kept that bullshit, by now he must be full of bullshit. Stephen Pierce’s bullshit cup runeth over!
By the way, I hear that there is even more to come on this blog about your pal, Stephen Pierce. “Roc” on!
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Buckaroo Bonzai Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 6:47 am
@Terrance, There’s no possible way anybody with a lick of common sense and no agenda could read what’s posted on this site, follow all the numerous and damning third party links, and come to the ridiculous “conclusion” you barfed up in your inane comment.
You’re either one of Stephen’s bitches, or you have the I.Q. of potato salad, or both. Regardless, it’s a net loss to your family tree.
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Lanna Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 9:36 am
@Terrance,
Stephen Pierce’s family is not happy with what he’s saying about them. His ex-wife has a restraining order against him. His former employees are supporting a class action lawsuit against him. His affiliates are angry about not being paid.
Who’s left to come here and call this a witch hunt? You could be a random troll, in which case, go back to 4chan. You could be a current employee; contact Alan Rosenberg so you can testify on behalf of the plaintiffs instead of getting named as a defendant. You could be Stephen Pierce himself; we’ll see you in court.
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go away Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 9:50 am
@Terrance, go away – you have no idea what you are talking about. stephen uses everyone else as his scapegoat, hello? get up to speed…
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Anonymous Reply:
May 2nd, 2012 at 7:20 pm
@Terrance, Hello, Stephen. Welcome to your professional obituary. Of course you’re appalled at the language. That is so much worse than defrauding the elderly and disabled! So much worse than barfing up verbal abuse and threats on family and staff. So much worse than leaving a trail of unpaid suppliers and affiliates. WTF??
I hadn’t noticed that until you pointed it out. You really are a superior human being, just like you said.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 7th, 2012 at 5:28 pm
@Terrance, Well Terrance let me tell you what you can go and do…. Take about $5K out of your retirement fund and hand it over to this ass bag Stephen and let him go to work for you. Sit by the phone and wait for your results… and report back here…. if you like.
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# 2 May 2012 at 12:34 am

EricG said:
@Terrance -
The comments show nothing factual?
ROFL.
You must have skipped a lot then – including the documented court cases against Stephen Pierce.
Your selective objectivity is breathtaking.
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# 2 May 2012 at 5:58 am

Anonymous said:
What a baboon. How many states did this guy try to hide out in? It looks like he has been involved in a lot of fraud cases and lawsuits galore. As for the web. This guy knows nothing about how to market anything on the web online or offline. What is this gibberish about him taking up religion all of a sudden? Out of all of the goofy gurus we have running loose in this country this guy takes the fucking cake.
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# 7 May 2012 at 5:11 pm

Jack said:
NEW: From Success Scamming, Inc.
Only a handfull of select people even know that this
webinar from Stephen exsists.
http://budurl.com/RecipesOfResults
This webinar comes with a Kick Butt bouns manual
that you will be able to request at the end of the webinar.
http://budurl.com/RecipesOfResults
Enjoy!
Success Sculpting Team
Success Sculpting Inc.
401 W. President George Bush HWY, Suite 128B
Richardson, TX
75080
US
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# 7 May 2012 at 9:15 pm

Jack said:
Stephen Pierce – a.k.a. “Ryan”(?) sent me the information about how he can make 1.2 million dollars for putting up Kindle-books, so maybe he can use the money from that for paying different people instead of suing them:
“Kentucky Man Sells 1.2 Mil Kindle Books In 6 Months
Want to know how he did it?
Grab this 17 page report now.
Click Here => [link-removal service provided by Jack]
More books are being sold on Amazon’s Kindle than
actual books, both paperback and hardback.
You can publish and sell your books in minutes and you
don’t even need to WRITE the books your self.
There is actually more money in being a Digital
Publisher of other peoples books.
The report explains it all.
Go grab your copy now.
Click Here =>
[link-removal service provided by Jack]
Talk Soon,
Ryan
P.S. — You can sell other stuff on Amazon too, the
report explains everything.
It is seriously awesome.
Go grab your copy now.
Click Here =>
[link-removal service provided by Jack]
Success Scamming Inc.
401 W. President George Bush HWY, Suite 128B
Richardson, TX
75080
US”
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Lanna Reply:
May 8th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
@Jack,
I think you should put your scrolling captchas on the back burner and focus on your link removal service. It would save a lot of people a lot of money to have the links removed from their Stephen Pierce aka Ryan emails before they reached their inboxes.
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Holy Sh- Reply:
May 8th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
@Jack, oh, cripes, they’re selling Kindle spam as a ‘system’ now. Just what the world needs.
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Clark Reply:
May 8th, 2012 at 4:57 pm
@Jack,
Well, at least my services as an MS Paint artist are back in demand. All those high quality Kindle covers don’t design themselves!
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EricG Reply:
May 8th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
@Jack,
Hey WTF – Why did you remove those links?
I want to make 1.2 million dollars in 6 months too.
Hope you’re happy now that you’ve made my kids starve!!!!!
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# 8 May 2012 at 12:07 pm

Anonymous said:
Ain’t that the truth! Someone else made your kids starve. I know you didn’t mean that, but Stephen Pierce says things like that all the time. For instance, he is now offering a new product (watch out world!) which you can read all about at http://successsculpting.com/296/how-to-become-rich. If you don’t go to this webinar, it will cost you thousands, maybe millions of dollars!!
ttp://saltydroid.info/coldhearted-hotheads sounds just like him.
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# 10 May 2012 at 11:34 am

Anonymous said:
Ain’t that the truth! Someone else made your kids starve. I know you didn’t mean that, but Stephen Pierce says things like that all the time. For instance, he is now offering a new product (watch out world!) which you can read all about at http://successsculpting.com/296/how-to-become-rich. If you don’t go to this webinar, it will cost you thousands, maybe millions of dollars!!
ttp://saltydroid.info/coldhearted-hotheads sounds just like h
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# 10 May 2012 at 11:37 am

Eric G said:
I think I just found the instruction manual that is used by Stephen King, the syndicate, and anyone else who has a burning desire to become a guruwanker.
http://www2.tech.purdue.edu/cgt/courses/cgt411/covey/48_laws_of_power.htm
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Anonymous Reply:
May 25th, 2012 at 8:10 am
@Eric G,
That book was published circa 2000. Was a bestseller at the time. Not exactly a secret.
Assume you meant Stephen Pierce instead of Stephen King. The latter could read and understand the 48 Laws of Power. The former wouldn’t understand half the words in it — and he lacks the discipline to read something that long.
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Jack Reply:
May 25th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
@Anonymous, I can’t think that Stephen King can come up with something as Stephen Pierce really, though.
Also, I think SD keeps trying to hide the 48-Laws book by burying it in the comments by making the interesting posts:
http://saltydroid.info/arresting-developments/#comment-43438
http://saltydroid.info/anthony-morrisons-television-internets/#comment-63613
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Eric G Reply:
May 26th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
@,
Yes, I meant Stephen Pierce. I thought I edited my error, but the system put in a duplicate post with that correction (see below)
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# 24 May 2012 at 11:11 pm

Eric G said:
I think I just found the instruction manual that is used by Stephen Pierce, the syndicate, and anyone else who has a burning desire to become a guruwanker.
http://www2.tech.purdue.edu/cgt/courses/cgt411/covey/48_laws_of_power.htm
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# 24 May 2012 at 11:12 pm

Todd H. Bart said:
I’ve been doing some reading lately and ran across something called “The Forty-eight Laws of Power.” It’s a list of way to maintain power. Most of them made me think of Stephen Pierce, but this one really suits his methods. Blame every thing on every one else. No personal accountability unless it furthers your own agenda to ACT humble and accountable. Otherwise, act the charming and innocent victim.
Classic Stephen Pierce, until the SaltyDroid exposed him and gave us a forum for telling the truth about him!
Keep Your Hands Clean
You must seem a paragon of civility and efficiency: Your hands are never soiled by mistakes and nasty deeds. Maintain such a spotless appearance by using others as scapegoats and cat’s-paws to disguise your involvement.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 26th, 2012 at 10:03 am
@Todd H. Bart,
You’re one of several posters who have recently brought up the book here.
One could easily pick Cialdini’s “Influence,” Sun Tzu’s “Art of War,” Machiavelli’s “The Prince,” or Clausewitz’s “On War.”
Yet “48 Laws of Power” keeps cropping up instead. Starting to wonder if there’s an agenda to pike the book through comment spam.
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Jack Reply:
May 26th, 2012 at 11:22 am
@Todd H. Bart, It’s the 49th law that the real killer.
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Todd H. Bar Reply:
May 27th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
@Jack, and what is the 49th law?
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Jack Reply:
May 27th, 2012 at 9:06 pm
@Todd H. Bar, Super-secret for the real one (not the YouTube ones)…even it’s that 50 Cent and Robert Greene keep trying to hide it.
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Hang Stephen Reply:
August 5th, 2012 at 8:48 am
@Todd H. Bart, Your no saint – You are a scum bag too Todd Bart
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# 26 May 2012 at 8:19 am

Don't tread on me said:
Salty,
Let me first thank you for providing me with the venue to post my story which you will see show that this snake oil salesman is still peddling.
I attended the “Get Motivated” to get ripped off seminar in Lexington KY, October 2011. I too fell prey to Stephen Piece and one of his sidekicks, Corey someone, sales pitches on achieving finance success through their affiliate marketing packages.
After these sales gurus captured my attention, they convinced me that I could become financially successful if I invested in one of their affiliate marketing training packages. I purchased the Platinum package that included unlimited LPG express (I think this is unlimited landing pages) for $6994. Yes, I “purchased” the package at a total cost of $6,994. They forbid you to use the words “purchase” and “cost”. You are to refer to the process as “investing in yourself” – “investing in your education.” The package I purchased consists of a box of seven CDs,, unlimited landing pages, and attendance at a two-day summit in Utah.
After I listened to one of the CDs, I had questions, so I attempted to contact someone for technical support. I was batted around several times, on several occasions, but was never able to reach anyone who had the expertise to respond to my questions, so I put the CD box aside and tried to ignore the fact I had been the victim of a $6,994 scam. It was $6,994 I did not have. Rather, I placed myself in debt to purchase this package of snake oil.
Looking at this retrospectively, when a company has a full page of disclaimers on the reverse side of the sales receipt, the company likely has had many complaints, but has no intention of returning your money, should you not be satisfied with the package. But, of course, their focus is on getting you to sign the form and sending you on your way. They certainly are not going to sit down and explain that the package is a ripoff and that they have no intention of returning your money when you realize that you have been scammed.
They have called me on a number of occasions, asking me to reserve my spot and confirm my attendance – hotel stay, etc. at one of the upcoming summits in Utah. The next upcoming one is in June. They even asked me if I have any food allergies, in case a meal might have food allergens. Of course, this is not an all-expenses-paid trip, they just want to make sure that you are locked in on attending. My speculation is that it is a sucker count, of sorts. No doubt, they will be peddling some kind of coaching package there – probably to the tune of $10,000.
Anyway, that’s my nightmare with Stephen Pierce and the rest of is snake oil peddlers. I am another victim of slick sales tactics, designed to swindle you.
WINNER!! ::   +8
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Former Employee 1 Reply:
May 29th, 2012 at 7:29 am
@Don’t tread on me, So sorry this happened to you. If he promised to buy back those blogs, send your story to the attorney general!! Texas has business laws and this man has broken some of them!!
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Anonymous Reply:
May 29th, 2012 at 8:15 am
@Don’t tread on me,
Also send your story to Kentucky’s Attorney General and the state’s department of revenue.
There’s an excellent chance that Pierce has not qualified his company to do business in the state. So in addition to deceptive trade practices, he may have tax and personal liability issues.
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Wyrd Reply:
May 29th, 2012 at 10:24 am
@Don’t tread on me,
That sucks, dude.
Even so–it could’ve been worse. Some folks that get into IM-MMO get into thinking that if it didn’t work the first time, then it must have been their fault so they try again and again and again spending more and more into debt.
Maybe you can get in on the class action lawsuit. I have no idea if you could get your money back–but the more legal judgements there are against Stephen Pierce the better.
Contact Alan Rosenberg at this email address for more details about getting involved in the suit.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Juice Reply:
August 6th, 2012 at 6:01 am
@Don’t tread on me, It’s not really sales tactics, its just blatant lies and BS! And that’s the problem.
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# 28 May 2012 at 5:44 pm

Hang Stephen said:
Throw this miserable cunt in jail already.
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# 3 August 2012 at 6:36 pm

Angry Ant said:
This particular blog will never die, simply because the subject will never change his spots and will always be a con artist.
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