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.nate said:
This is playing out eerily similar to Batman (symbol of hope, vigilante imitators, “it’s not who I am, it’s what I do”, etc etc). haha ;)
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# 25 November 2009 at 8:30 am

Dave said:
I keep waiting for the holograph to pop out and enlighten us all….  Help me OB Juan, you’re my only hope, and all that crap.
 
So tell us more about Vimeo – did the D-Bags manage to screw you on that one?  I’m sure you can get something else going.  The truth cannot be squelched once it starts coming out.  Stay on them and keep them guessing.   I just hope they don’t go after every Jason in Chicago, like some sorry Terminator sequel – “Jason Droid?  You are terminated”.
 
From the kingdom of corruption, Happy Thanksgiving to all.
 
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# 25 November 2009 at 11:37 am

_cartman_ said:
I think the question we have to ask is not who ….but……IS…I got this “channel” from a server in  Langley Virginia
“Dear Web–I am an eight year old server.
“Some of my server friends say there is no Salty Droid.
“Router says, ‘If you see his electron trail, it’s so.’
“Please tell me the truth, is there a Salty Droid?
Is there a Salty Droid
Virginia, your little server friends are wrong.  They have been affected by the skepticism of an internet age.  They do not believe except that they control.  They think that nothing can be which is not transported by their little nodes.  All servers, Virginia, whether they be IBM or Intel are little.  In this great electronverse of ours servers are mere insects, a desktop, in their capability, as compared with the boundless bits about them, as measured by the processing power capable of transmitting the whole of truth and knowledge.
Yes, Virginia, there is a Salty Droid. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that he abounds and give to your life its highest beauty and joy.  Alas! how dreary would be the bits transmitted if there were no Salty Droid!  It would be as dreary as if there were no Virginias.  There would be no child-like faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable our surfing.  We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight.  The eternal light with which Salty fills the internet would be extinguished.
Not believe in the Salty Droid!  You might as well not believe in scammers!  You might get your papa to hire IT professionals to monitor all open ports during a scammers launch to catch Salty Droid, but even if you did not see Salty Droid’s IP, what would that prove?  Nobody sees Salty Droid, but that is no sign that there is no Salty Droid.  The most real things in the world are those that neither scammers or surfers can see.  Did you ever see electrons dancing in your wires?  Of course not, but that’s no proof that they are not there.  Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable on the internet.
You tear apart the cable modem and see what connects the internet inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen internet which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived, could tear apart.  Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond.  Is it all real?  Ah, Virginia, on the internet there is nothing more real and law abiding.
No Salty Droid!  Thank Cheeses! he lives, and he lives forever.  A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, people will come across his posts, and he will continue to make glad the land of internet.
 
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# 25 November 2009 at 11:40 am

_cartman_ said:
my bad…don’t read the private parts….thems my personal bits!
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# 25 November 2009 at 11:55 am

Dave said:
Beautiful cartman, just beautiful.   I’m shedding salty tears.
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# 25 November 2009 at 12:05 pm

Lance said:
For the bad guys who are curious about who the Salty Droid might be, his web site eminates from two powerhouse servers, “Deathstar” and “Darkside.” Not sure I’d ever want to know what is behind there, but I’d definitely want to stay on the droid’s good side.
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Steamroller Reply:
November 29th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
@Lance      Not a bad guy here, but I believe the free speech server situation has been discussed herein.  Also, there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
As for staying on the good side of you, the droid, or anybody…I could care less.  I’ll stand up to anybody for what I believe in…regardless of who they are.
And for anyone who doesn’t believe that…then get out of my way, ’cause…
I’m a steamroller baby, and I’ll roll all over you.
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# 25 November 2009 at 2:18 pm

Bubba Bafferson said:
Who is salty?  Who cares…I have a much more pressing question–
Jason Moffatt’s “The Truth Serum” just hit the torrent sites, and I’m wondering…is it worth ripping?  I mean, the thing is 8 gigs.  Sure, I can get it in less than a couple of hours, but is he just a choad guzzling rip off artist like so many others?  A douchebag lying flim flam man?  Or, is there some value that would make the huge effort of clicking “save,” then opening up the saved file and hitting “download” to get it?
He sure talks the talk, sounding every bit like the scum bag’s Salty fries regularly…
Who Am I?
° Jeff Walker crowned me a “Product Launch Expert” and trusted in my advice enough to invite me to his $5000 workshop to help attendees brainstorm and plan their launch.
° Eben Pagan invited me as a guest to his $10,000 Altitude event because he knows I’m devoted to help others build and grow their business. And he knows I’m the kind of guy that’s a “Quick Implementer”. If you saw the Altitude DVD’s you know what I’m talking about. Bottom line, I bring value to the room!
° Ed Dale and Frank Kern crowned me “The Underachiever Of The Year” in 2005. (Obviously a very prestigious title)
° John Carlton calls on me when he wants the inside scoop on social media or hip trends among the youth in our culture.
° I co-authored the book “Million Dollar Marketing Secrets” with guys like Michel Fortin, Ray Edwards, Clayton Makepeace and more.
° I privately advise the marketing departments of some of the largest motivational gurus in the entire world. You know, the guys you see on Oprah, Larry King, The New York Times Best Seller List, NBC, CBS, ABC… etc etc etc.
° I secretly create content for some of the biggest named gurus in the marketing business. You’d be shocked at some of the stuff I created and what I was paid to do it.
So confusing.  Should I rip his product, or shouldn’t I?  Sure, I can rip it and delete it–like I have with so many others–but it’s still a lot of effort hitting “download.”
Help me out, Salty…is Jason Moffatt a shit stain lying scum bag like all the others, or is there some value in ripping his product?
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# 25 November 2009 at 9:44 pm

franksgaycousintrey said:
Hey Bubba, I can’t help you with the “is Moffatt a scumbag thing,” but I can say this…once again, I’ve been proven bang on dead right and Salty has been proven wrong.
I absolutely NAILED it when I said the new FTC was a massive deal–and Salty tried to rebuff me by saying it wouldn’t mean dick.
Check out the sales page, Salty (and everyone else)–
Notice anything missing that used to be a mainstay of the “make tons of money” offers?
Gone is the screaming headline about how much money he made.  No figures whatsoever.  Gone are the clickbank/paypal screenshots.  No mention whatsoever about how much he made “last month.”  Gone are the testimonials of how much money people have made listening to this “guru to the guru.”  Just a generic vague “this guy has tons of money” testimonial by John Carlton.
It’s amazing.  The difference is night and day.  Just like I said it would be–and have pointed out in a couple of new sales letters that have recently hit the net.
Salty, you couldn’t have been more wrong trying to slap me down, and dismissing the new rules as irrelevant because the slime who are just making up testimonials and figures weren’t worried about telling the truth, so the new rules wouldn’t matter to them.
Read the sales letter.  Compare it with what you would have seen (did see) just a few months ago.  This sales letter is flaccid, weak, and entirely ineffective.  Unless you have the big “something for nothing” emotion stoking screaming figures, these pitches fall flat.
Nobody fucking cares about actually doing it.  Nobody cares about a rational argument, a logical “this is what you’re going to learn” rant.  These guys were playing to the pure lottery playing rainbow chasers.
Absolutely guaranteed this guy’s promo is laying an egg compared to what he pulled in back in the good old days of “How a broke ex-private dective went from zero to $30,000 after discovering the secret of making money in 1 hour a day with simple youtube videos—and YOU can too!!”
I think what you’re going to see–and I’m calling it–is that the gurus are going to try to toe the line like Moffatt, here.  But, when they realize that they need the big pie in the sky promise of riches to sell their products to the dream chasers, a lot of them are going to end up breaking the law by going back to their old ways.  And, the FTC is going to lay the hammer down on some of them.  One or two high profile cornholings of well known gurus by the FTC, and the industry will realize the good old days are gone for good.
Just remember who called it.  Salty…get with the program.
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franksgaycousintrey Reply:
November 25th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Ooops, here is the sales page…
http://www.thetruthserum.com/
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# 25 November 2009 at 10:07 pm

Joe said:
I seriously can’t imagine anyone wanting that Moffatt stuff even if it were free. What’s he even selling? I have no clue. Nor do I care. And I’m guessing that’s pretty much what everyone else is thinking, too.
Party’s over, Internet Barketers.
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# 25 November 2009 at 11:21 pm

Who is stealing for who? said:
Salty Droid, you are right to go after the scumbags who scam, con and rip people off but…
I hope you don’t approve of people who knowingly download copyright material from the Torrents.
Aren’t these people just more greedy shysters who want something for nothing?
Doesn’t this threaten the very fabric of US society?
If  stealing music and information products is acceptable , does it lead to stealing the flowers and fruit grown in gardens, the bread and cakes sold in the stores, the autos parked up…
Just a thought.
Perhaps greed begins at home and instead of complaining, we should make sure that our own actions are clean and stand up to scrutiny.
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SD Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
1. I DO NOT endorse the piracy of people’s real intellectual property … even though our archaic and retarded copyright system is clearly in need of massive reforms. I pay for the content I consume .. and I’d encourage others to do the same.
2. The people I’m talking about here don’t have real intellectual property. They peddle recycled garbage :: lies :: and cat crap. Their products have less than zero value … because they will lead you astray. Don’t buy these products … and don’t download them either. Stay as far away from these shyster freaks and their wickedness as you possibly can.
3. I don’t mind when people mention the torrents here because these scammers use scarcity as a tactic … and that’s bullshit in the Internet age. The fact is once something is available anywhere at any price … it’s available everywhere at no price … and it will continue to be available from now until the sun implodes. If you are buying something on the assumption that only a “select few” are going to hear the special unicorn secret … then you are being exploited. There are no more secrets :: there is no more scarcity.
4. You want to learn about marketing? Go to the fucking library … sounds old school … but it’s the best advice you’ll get all year. Everything up in that bitch is free … and no one will accuse you of being an advocate of “cake stealing” or “garden raiding” {although you never know}.
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# 26 November 2009 at 4:47 am

Dave said:
Who is – Seriously?  Who the hell is advocating stealing anything here?    Flowers and fruit?  WTF?  The only theft discussed legitimately here is the theft from consumers by scam artists.  if some arbitrary poster talks about downloading torrent files, that in no way implies endorsement by SD or the majority of the Droid’s readers and supporters.
 
Your post reeks of poor theatrics (Animal House, anyone?)  and bears no relevance to the original post.
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Thom Reply:
November 26th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Exactly right. Trying to usurp this blog’s point and focus by attributing its meaning to a random commenter is ridiculous and dubious. It’s also false logic 101. Dave is spot on.
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# 26 November 2009 at 2:34 pm

?? said:
guess the crowd that comes to this blog is a little smarter than the IM guru’s thought ;)
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# 26 November 2009 at 5:49 pm

franksgaycousintrey said:
Hey Salty, step up and weigh in on this…
Ryan Deiss has come onboard and has basically said, “you are dead right, ‘Trey–the FTC new regs are a huge deal and are chaning the way I do business…for the better.”
Seriously, Salty, if you’re going to pound a guy up the ass for being a scumbag, then step up when he pulls it back.
Doubful you’ve listened to it, but Deiss has a new webinar out promoting his Continuity Blueprint re-launch.  And, just like Moffatt’s sales message I pointed out above, he’s very obviously taking great pains to adhere to the new regs.  Gone are the “I made millions virtually overnight, and by inference, you will too just by buying this program” painted mental images.  Gone are the “I bought Ryan’s course and now make 50k a month” testimonials.
Numerous times throughout the webinar he cites the FTC and what he’s not allowed to say.  He says numerous times the average person doesn’t make any money–even with his blueprint.
Seriously, what is wrong with him making this statement from his webinar (the answer is–nothing is wrong with it)–
Someone asks “how long will it take me to start making money?”
Paraphrasing, just slightly…
“geeze, I hate that questions.  But, it’s a valid question, really it is.  Let me just throw out income claims and make sure I go to jail (another mentioning of the new FTC awareness).  I can’t tell you you’re going to get this up and running fast.  I just can’t tell you that. 
What I can tell you is that some people–and NOOOOOOOO they’re NOT normal, and NOOOOOOOOOOOO they are NOT typical, they’re freaks of nature–but we have had people go through our training and have membership sites up and running in a matter of weeks.  We had one guy up nad running the next day after one of our trainings.  Now, he’s NOT normal.
The average person who invests in this training does nothing–they don’t even go through the training videos.  So, it takes an eternity and they never get it done.
Now the question you have to ask yourself is, ‘are you average?’  Are you just some average shmo?  Because if that’s who you are, then PLEASE…DON’T invest at all.  Average people need to work at jobs.  It’s as simple and brutal as that.  That’s okay.  There’s nothing morally wrong with that.
If you’re okay with being average, get a job.  Entrepreneurs are not average folks. 
How long will it take you to make money?  I can’t tell you that, but I can say we designed it to be a four week course.  Maybe it’ll take you longer, though.  That’s why we have a 60 day money back guarantee.  Give it a try for 60 days.  If you don’t see results, that’s why we have the guarantee…just send it back.”
Seriously, Salty, I have lying douchebags as much as the next guy, but what’s wrong with the above?  Deiss is throwing out a challenge–bet on yourself.  Are you more than average?  Go for it, then.  Do you think you’re more than average?  Go for it, then.  If it turns out you’re wrong, and you’re not…we’ll give you your money back.
Droid Edit ~ anti-victim spittle moved to :: ~ http://saltydroid.info/sheeple-part-2-conformity/
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spoonfaceboy Reply:
March 20th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
@franksgaycousintrey,
This thread is so freaking old and no one likely gives a crap anymore. That said, I just had to say, you sound like a fucking moron.
That you tout the removal of Ryan Deiss testimonials like:
“I made millions virtually overnight, and by inference, you will too just by buying this (Ryan Deiss) program” and “I bought Ryan’s (Deiss) course and now make 50k a month” testimonials.
, begs the question — if Ryan Deiss is such a fucking law-abiding, rules-complying, truth-loving saint, why the fuck was he using these fake statements in the first place?
Read between the lines of your own post you deluding dimwit.
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# 26 November 2009 at 9:22 pm

asanon said:
Q: Who gives a shit who Salty is?
A: THE D-BAGS – all the people who have SOMETHING TO GET WORRIED ABOUT!  All those types who have their closets loaded with skeletons, who cheat and lie and steal.  They make promises they know they can’t fulfil to people who they know they can manipulate easily.  The people who trust in them and believe that what they are being told is truthful, honest and trustworthy. Incidentally they spend hours, days, weeks preaching about how not to do the very things that they do because if we all did what they did there would be no-one left for them to steal off.
Just thinkin.
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# 26 November 2009 at 10:24 pm

?? said:
@franksgaycousintrey agreed. I hate lying scumfucks too, and what I hate more than that are people who put a value on something and then charge you an arm and a leg for something that doesn’t work for most people.
Most people are just being normal under the circumstances they find themselves in. They don’t have a ton of friends with lots of money, they don’t have a huge business network so they can pick up the phone and call someone qualified for advice, and they don’t know how to handle money well (most ppl are in debt).
So the problem is that IM’ers need to value their products based upon the capacity of their target market. Who gives a shit if your course can be completed within a day and be the ONE deciding factor to bring in an extra $30,000 in 15 days for a guy who’s been in network marketing all his life and has a ton of Hollywood publicists on his personal friends list?
And if you don’t want to base your product on the ability of the market then you shouldn’t ask for our money.
I find that most people give these things a good try, I know I certainly did and I was not alone, by no means.
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# 26 November 2009 at 10:29 pm

SpankD said:
Question. When reading the comments it came to me that parents tell there
kids how much money they’ll make from going to college. Fact is only only
20% of college graduates make above there unschooled counterparts paygrade.
Of that undergrads make up another 12%. That’s a 8% spread on graduating.
y@y.
 
Now Parents “promote” college as the de facto standard to make money.
Even though the raw statistics do not display that as fact at all. Socio-economic
factors play a greater influence on employment and pay grade then education
and experience.
 
Am I starting to paint a picture here?
 
I think we need to regulate parents. And the shit they spout to there kids.
I think we need to have safeguards and disclaimers to all college courses.
Hell taking some legal lawyerin classes is a lot different then passing the
bar and successfully practicing so there needs to be a disclaimer on that too.
I’d say the medical community is ripe for some regulation too. We’ll
start at chiropractic care and end at butt doctor. lol
 
Well since were getting down to the core, there is no anonymous internet anymore.
Ditch it, real names for everyone. It’s time for the anonymous internet to die. As
soon as money and legal shit and raccoons got into it the anonymous side had
to die.
At what point does the buyer become responsible for there purchases? For perceived
misrepresentation that is really people not performing due diligence, and what is true
fraud. Selling a bag of shit labeled as silver bars is bad on the seller. Selling it as high
tech manure is bad on the buyer who didn’t read the ingredients.
I’m sorry if your dumb enough to buy some of this shit that’s out there then, well
you probably need it.
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 27th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
“Question. When reading the comments it came to me that parents tell there
kids how much money they’ll make from going to college.”
How the fuck is that a question?
“Fact is only only 20% of college graduates make above there unschooled counterparts paygrade. Of that undergrads make up another 12%. That’s a 8% spread on graduating. y@y.”
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/2008/section2/table.asp?tableID=895
Show me where you pulled those stats from. It seems like you used Geppetto’s 80-20 rule, which states when you can’t come up with figures use 80 or 20 to make your point. Like 80% of the stupidity comes from 20% of the commentators, and of those 20 percent only 12% eat Jello, so that leave 8% that like vegemite spread….what????
“Am I starting to paint a picture here?”
Yeah Picasshoe…you are definitely autistic.
<rest of imbecility snipped for reasons of sanity>
At what point do we make higher education mandatory, so we are not inundated (I know I know…you never dated a nun….fuck!) with the imbecility from the deep.
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# 27 November 2009 at 10:52 am

soso said:
All the people that Salty snarks about belong to the LONELY HEARTS CLUB because they spend their waking hours trying to force people to love them, read their bullshit and buy all their crap. They know they are selling shit, they just find a great deal of orgasmic  satisfaction watching other people buy into it.  They are a bunch of very sad and useless individuals who are leaving very embarrassing legacies.
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# 27 November 2009 at 4:15 pm

Edjumacated said:
SpankD – I think your approach needs a little polishing.   Comparing college to internet marketing is  a false analogy (no, that has nothing to do with sex).  In other words, the logic FAILS.
 
If I was a guessin’ man, I’d guess you either a) started college, then dropped out or b) never attended.  If you did attend, you should have paid a little more attention to English 101, where they teach you the difference between “there,” “they’re,” and “their,” as well as the difference between “your” and “you’re”.   These little distinctions also help you frame coherent arguments and avoid being critiqued by those of us who did benefit from the higher education you think is as useless as Harlan Shitstain’s balls.
 
The bottom line is, even though a sucker is born every minute, that doesn’t mean it’s ok to take advantage of those suckers.  In fact, it’s morally reprehensible to take advantage of people who are incapable of exercising critical thinking.  It is a close second to blame victims for being victimized.
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# 28 November 2009 at 1:32 am

SpankD said:
Oh noes I has mah education critiqued by a butt hurt 12 year old girl and
her sidekick. Whatver am I to do.
Also don’t talk about morals in the context of my statement cause I didn’t.
I mean could we imagine if the world lived by your morals lol.
Assrape and Michael Jackson clowns on every corner.
No I’ll stick with my argument that the buyer has a good
deal of responsibility in this. You sound like you want protected
from those mean internet people who took your last 3 dollars
you were going to get grandmas knee surgery with.
 
Sorry seen enough socialism and facism in the US. We
need more personal responsibility and less crybabies.
Remember Cartman and Edumecatedtetedtdt when slitting
your wrists it’s down the road not across the street.
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froylein Reply:
November 28th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
“less crybabies” – Countable nouns collocate with “fewer”, not “less”.
Amateur.
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spoonfaceboy Reply:
March 20th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
@froylein,
Haughty grammarians give me a hard-on.
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# 28 November 2009 at 9:15 am

Scott said:
Can someone school me on torents? Are they completely free and which are the best ones?
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Alex Reply:
November 28th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
“School you” on torrents? What a troll. You somehow figured out how to use a computer keyboard, got to this web site, but don’t know how to use google? Yeah.
But to answer your absurd troll questions:
1. ”Are they completely free?” No, they aren’t. However, they sometimes go on sale after the holidays.
2. “Which are the best ones?” Some people prefer the vanilla, others prefer chocolate.
Hope that helps, troll.
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# 28 November 2009 at 2:47 pm

Scott said:
I learned about torrents on here Alex {computer tough guy} so I thought I would ask about them
 
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Ray Reply:
November 28th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Say Scott, can you school us on penal code? Is jail completely free, and which ones are the best?
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# 28 November 2009 at 4:36 pm

franksgaycousintrey said:
~ victim hate moved to :: http://saltydroid.info/sheeple-part-2-conformity ~
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 28th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
” In which case, they’re (notice it’s “they’re”…so BACK OFF) probably one up on most of us dumb english morons who couldn’t say more than “yes” in any other language.  So fuck off Cartman and others making that idiotic correction.”
Try reading my post again. Realize that the boxes they are contained in separate the posters. If you can’t handle that, have someone interpret for you.
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Wicker Furniture Half Price Reply:
November 29th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Looks like FGCT is off his meds again, Cartman. We’ll just have to wait it out until the sharpshooter can can get a clear shot with the tranquilizer dart, and hopefully when he does finally come around, the balloons and pinwheel will keep him occupied.
On another note, the rest of us are anxiously awaiting your video tribute to Harloon Kilstein, Cartman!  :)
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froylein Reply:
November 29th, 2009 at 1:48 am
English happens to be my third language. The distinction between the homophones “there”, “their”, and “they’re” is a matter of semantics, not grammar.
Does incorrect English matter? From a linguistic point of view it does as it gives you an idea what kind of person you’re dealing with. Also, there are certain types of mistakes typical of certain people, so you can easily identify e.g. Harlan Kilstein by his incorrect use of English.
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SD Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
What is your second language? Is it Latin? Someone told me that many Germans still learn Latin. I think the devil probably speaks Latin … so that skill might really come in handy some day.
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froylein Reply:
December 1st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Latin is my fourth language. :)
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# 28 November 2009 at 6:22 pm

sinbad said:
… and you can identify that Schirmer guys work of art by the spelling errors even the stuff he would like you think that someone else wrote.  These guys are all class ….. NOT!  Does English matter, well yes, when you charge a body part for a day with a duffus then you better have bloody good english otherwise people get pissed off ten times quicker when they think they have been had by a wanker.
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# 29 November 2009 at 6:24 am

Ban the scammers said:
Great comments, FGCT.  Some people on this site deserved a beat down, and you delivered.   And you’re right about the FTC rule changes.  It’s a real game changer that the salty droid should be addressing, instead of hiding because he made a dumb ass comment that they weren’t a big deal.
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Norton Reply:
November 29th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Nice self-aggrandizing setup comment, FGCT. Too bad your followup acceptance speech (below) wasn’t up to your usual low standards.
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SD Reply:
January 10th, 2010 at 1:10 am
Confirmed :: d-bag talking to himself. Good call btw ..
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# 29 November 2009 at 5:23 pm

franksgaycousintrey said:
~ victim hate moved to http://saltydroid.info/sheeple-part-2-conformity ~
Salty does good work, so I was less enthusiastic about having to bitch slap him into next week, but hey…if they guy deserves it, I gotta deliver.  And, he deserved it by making the idiotic fucked up point that the FTC changes should be dismissed out of hand because nobody would adopt them.
Yeah…bullshit they won’t.  I’ve visited all the guru sites, and to a man (and a few women), they’ve all addressed them on their sites.  Some, by Belcher the Felcher and Filsaime have tossed in the towel as a result of seeing that the gig is up.  Others, like Kern and Reese have made mention that they’re changing the way they operate because of them.
Most telling of all, though, is the night and day difference in sales letters pushing get rich quick products.
Look, I’m above fucking average when it comes to having my finger on the pulse of change, but it didn’t take a fucking visionary like me to realize the FTC was laying down the hammer, and what exactly their intention was with their changes (making it ultra easy to swoop down and ass fuck the violators–pardon my french), or that the gurus would clue in and fly straight.
So yeah, Salty dropped the ball big time on this.  And, he appears to realize it, the way he’s all but disappeared from his own site, and refuses to man up and get on board.
Listen, if Salty is less than a man, and is too embarrassed by me bitch slapping the taste out of his mouth to show up and admit it, then that’s too bad.  I’ve pretty much become the voice of this site anyway, and I’m more than willing to pick up the salty slack, if needed.
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Dan Reply:
November 29th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Can you elaborate on that?
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# 29 November 2009 at 6:16 pm

Dave said:
Well, FFS, Gay Trey, you are so full of yourself (aka shit) that I can smell you all the way over here in Kabul – oh, wait, Kabul always smells like shit, so maybe you actually lurk in the muddy streets here.
I’m real proud of you for having visited ALL of the guru sites, every last one of them, and for proclaiming your brilliance by virtue of them complying with the FTC rules.  Amazing, really, it is.  So tell, me, do you seriously think that just because they are presenting a legal face on their bullshit marketing techniques (at least until they figure out a way around the restrictions, or until they know the FTC hasn’t really got the balls to go after any of them), that they are any less scamming, black-hearted, money-grubbing, lying jack-offs than they were before?  If you do, here’s a descriptor to put before your self-proclaimed “visionary” title.  Delusional.
Finally, just because a guy (Salty) might have taken a vacation over Thanksgiving and doesn’t respond immediately to your vain little postings, you think you have the standing to disrespect him on his own blog page?  Get real.  The only bitch here is you, and I for one will make sure it’s a cold day in hell before you are the “voice” of this site.  You arrogant little prick.
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Right On Reply:
November 29th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
As soon as I figure out where to send my dues, I’m joining your fan club.
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# 29 November 2009 at 10:03 pm

Fanny Spanker said:
And so the pack of baying hounds turn on each other when the top dog isn’t around.
 
C’mon guys, leave the pissing contest at home. Maybe all that angst could be better spent doing something productive and positive…
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Dogma Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 1:37 am
You mean, like discussing Harlan Kilstein?
Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! Let’s.
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# 30 November 2009 at 1:20 am

_cartman_ said:
Andros just re-opened her social media traffic blueprint..false testiMOANials and all….she even put back Oliver Turner’s testimonial….guess she’s deluded herself to believe her own testiMOANials….
http://www.socialmediatrafficblueprint.com/smtbopen.html
I love the new writing….
“I’ve been a highly successful internet entrepreneur, speaker, and trainer.”

She finally sees herself as a has been…now if only she would realize that she never was….
“I’ve been able to generate a HIGH HIGH Six figure income with social media and video alone. ”
Double high…pretty serious kick in the reality there….
“I have 44 000+ loyal followers on twitter and my website is ranked as the top #95 000 website in the world on Alexa ”
Somebody should really inform the 43,980 that they are supposed to be loyal….her site ranks 113,533..butt it’s the thought that counts….
“earned her crown in Social Media from personal success with YouTube(nearly 500,000 views)”
She’s missing about 300,000 views….butt it’s the thought that counts….
“if you have a confirmed negative attitude and you already KNOW this program isn’t going to work”
I thought that was being smart….maybe psychic…butt negative…..noooooooo…..
“I am now accepting new students on a first come first served basis.”
Just like McDonalds….can I please have a big hack…
“You see people BUY from People they LIKE.”
Fuck, I bought our fridge, stove, and TV wrong…my bad….I just assumed it was a good deal, it was okay to buy them, I didn’t even like the prick I bought them from…should I return them??
“My last program sold out in less than 72 hours ”
Oops you’re back to the 72 hour lie….technically your last program didn’t sell out..and was open one week before you closed it for no reason….the “first” program was supposed to have sold out in less then 48 hours….ahhhh……”less than 72 hours” can be ”less than 48 hours”….of course how silly of me…
“I’m re-opening the doors now to create more success stories.”
Well at least you’re honest about being dishonest….keyword “creating”…oh… oh….can I make 2Million in less then 30 days….Please…..I’ll watch all your videos, even if they kill me!
“My phone has been ringing off the hook, people have been sending me direct messages on Twitter and Facebook, and using every conceivable connection to try to get an inside track on this program. But if you are reading this letter, the program is open for right now.”
How does your phone ring off the hook?..never mind…..Thank gawd for miracles….just the other day I was thinking to myself….10′s of 1000′s of people are on her waiting list, yet she is going to offer us 100 consumer one of her 1xx spots (hey wait, what happened to first come first served?)….how sweet…hmm…she doesn’t give out her phone number…oh right…the highly successful people in her phone need updating….I forget sometimes….
Ahhh….will wonders never cease…..
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Jorge Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Cartman, you are like the ultimate jungle guide to the internet marketing animal. The only thing you didn’t analyze was mating rituals. Maybe that involves the “people in her phone.”
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
hahaha…you’re right Jorge…now that I reread it….I do kind of disseminate points in a jungle commentator sort of way….
And on our write…we have a group of internet “marketers” brainstorming…note the light breeze…not much brain power….not much of a storm…
crikey… on your left you will see a ”marketer” having a disagreement with one of their customers…the ”marketer” doesn’t want to return the customers money…the customer is quoting the 30 day money back guarantee….the  ”marketer”  is frightened…and begins engaging in verbal defaecation ….. and begins “flinging” his verbal ”poo”….in hopes the customer is intimidated into changing their mind….
coming up…again on our left….we will see the first tent city…it is esimated that 80% of tent city residents are a result of internet marketers. The promises marketed were just lies, and now the victims of these lies are left to pay the price..
this is clearly shown by the following google search
“Results 1 – 10 of about 43,100 for 80% of tent city residents are a result of internet marketers.”
crikey….Over 43,000 websites state it is a fact….two minutes later we repeated the search and got the following results
“Results 1 – 10 of about 43,300 for 80% of tent city residents are a result of internet marketers.”
 in less then 1 minute between searches….200 more websites were added which address this problem..this is unheard of….this is unprecedented…..sorry….I digressed…
You may have a point about the “people in her phone”, with the kind of “successful people” she ”surrounds” herself with, anything is possible…After all, the two people she respects the most (I mean even more then those she victimized) are Harlan Kilstein and Mike Filsaime…
crikey…. :)
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# 30 November 2009 at 2:07 am

SD (author) said:
GayTrey :: You do understand that I can see when you are talking to yourself in the comments right?  I don’t mind … be just as self obsessed as you please.  And by all means … tell me to “step up” … and that I’m an idiot … blah blah blah.  Because I couldn’t give two shits …
However :: DO NOT run your fucking mouth about the victims of these crimes {especially when I’m obviously not around}.  Part of what I’m doing here is punking the D-bags.  You like that part … I’m happy for you.  But another important part of the mission is to make the victims feel a little bit better about themselves … and to defend their right to complain.
You have been here long enough to see that.  Respect the victims :: or fuck off.  Your only two choices.
 
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Anonymous Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Now this is a very interesting comment you made:
“make the victims feel a little bit better about themselves … and to defend their right to complain. You have been here long enough to see that.”
And I have to take up for Gay Trey for missing the part about defending the victims and take issue with comment that he’s been here long enough to see that.  Your site is almost a year old now and that part is not especially clear.  The  Enigma post is the only specific post that I can recall recently.
Can you elaborate with specific numbers and facts on how many people/success stories you and your site have helped obtain refunds and from whom?
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Karin Hiebert Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 8:43 am
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Anonymous…
You’re kidding right?
You have read this blog? Or no?…   http://saltydroid.info/refund-kryptonite/
Just one other little example of how the Droid has helped a number of people get a refund…
plenty more examples and people out there… remember the Droid the doer of good deeds…has helped those who have asked for help…and then some…
for myself personally… the Droid has helped me in more ways than anyone could ever imagine or EVER know…
The Droid is ONE of the FEW people online or offline for that matter…that I CAN DEPEND ON for the Truth AND for Help… with pretty much anything…!
and… I am not special…  (come to think of it…I AM!)
; p
he does it for anyone who asks… based on what I KNOW, have seen, and EXPERIENCED…
The Droid is here to help…some may not see that…as yet…read the blog starting from a year ago…and keep reading…
Awareness, Truth, Enlightening and Insightful Content- and- a brilliantly written masterpiece…
…Read it now before you Die of Stupid! (I love that line!) Makes me smile all the time!
 
 
 
 
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SD Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
The whole thing is in defense of victims … every post … look closer. I don’t have time to help everyone who needs a refund {there is a long line forming} … and I don’t usually mention my behind the scenes efforts to help … because that’s a classy move.
I NEVER mock victims here … and if you want to play along with the home game … kindly do the same.
Shout out to the many awesome people here who help defend the totally normal {not stupid} people who are victimized by these assholes against the ignorance of the masses.
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franksgaycousintrey Reply:
November 30th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
I thought you might be able to see them, but I wasn’t sure.  Yeah, I was way out of line with my last few comments.  I’ll choose the first option, and I’ll smarten up, instead of fucking off.
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# 30 November 2009 at 6:15 am

franksgaycousintrey said:
Oooops, I almost forgot…sorry everyone.
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# 30 November 2009 at 7:37 pm

its all good said:
apology accepted atleast by me
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# 1 December 2009 at 11:22 am

Anonymous said:
I want to apologize to Jason and everyone here for the comments and doubts I’ve had about you.  Again, I truly am very sorry.  You have no idea how absolutely horrible I feel right now.
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# 1 December 2009 at 1:27 pm

it's all good said:
Apology accepted from you too. With so much bs weaved in the whole IM thing, it’s hard to tell the maggots from the naive and misguided. Keep your head up
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# 1 December 2009 at 4:04 pm

Ryan Healy said:
“Who is John Galt?”
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# 3 December 2009 at 10:15 am

Linda said:
The only reason I want to know who is Salty Droid is there are so few people who are intelligent and willing and able to speak up about what they think and believe. I’ve been following your commentary on the James Arthur Ray trial and you say exactly what I’m thinking plus more. So I was just curious about where you are from (East Coast – New England; West Coast?) and what your real occupation is? English Teacher, early retiree who made lots of money on marketing (like Frank Abagnale who used his past to tell the FBI how it’s done?). Then again, maybe we have to pay 10,000 and do a sweat lodge to meet the real you! Of course it doesn’t matter…Like they say “I wonder why that information is important to you?” to which I reply, “Inquiring minds want to know.”
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SD Reply:
April 12th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
@Linda ::
You’re a bit late to this mystery I’m afraid. It’s already been “sovled” by some “gurus”. It only took them a year :: a couple of lame lawyers :: and some private investigators :: to find out that I was just who I said I was {surprise!}.
Look around a little more and you’ll find all the exciting demographic information that you seek.
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