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6 degrees of seperation said:
Yes the universal law of attraction is really working. James Ray has attracted this through his vibration. Eventually James Ray will be brought to justice.
“feminine principle”? Was watching a few of James Ray’s videos, and he keeps saying how we all need a balance of both the “feminine principle” and “masculine principle” in us. Heard all this before, but something about James Ray and the way he comes off makes what he is saying seem really strange. It seems that he doesn’t mean it the same way that the other new age parrots mean it. With James Ray there is a deep, dark twist of strangeness behind everything he says.
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# 25 May 2010 at 8:01 am

Hippo said:
With all respect to Mr. Salty and his brilliant writing, I actually got stuck at the COVER of the book.
“When would now be a good time to start?”
Maybe I’m not fully awake, but does this make any sense?
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208-577-6210 Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 10:40 am
@Hippo, You are fully awake – the sentence makes no sense. This is just a typically lame example of ‘NLP’. The ‘now’ is supposed to be a hidden command. I think it’s intended to elicit a response like so: “Uh…I think now would be a good time….yeah..now…how did you do that? You’re my hero – take $10k”
Of course, to anyone with a basic grasp of English, it just sounds retarded, which detracts from the slickness of the manoeuvre. I have no idea how they expect the command to remain ‘hidden’ in the sentence when it sticks out so obviously.
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Duff Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
In other words, the answer to the question “when would be a good time to start?” is included in the question (“now”).
In some contexts this can be funny and non-manipulative. None of those contexts include James Arthur Ray however (except in mocking him).
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Hippo Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
@Duff,
If I didn’t know anything about James Ray, and without understanding the NLP stuff, I would probably have picked this book up and gotten turned off by the grammatical issue.
My first thought would be, if this guy can’t speak proper English, I am not going to like anything about this author or this book.
Which is not really fair, considering that not everyone is a rocket scientist at spelling, vocabulary and grammar. I am sure that good ideas could be imparted by someone who makes these kinds of errors.
Of course, James Ray would not fall into that category, since his mis-use of the word “now” is apparently deliberate, and because his book is a pile of shit anyway.
Additionally, even if someone is a lousy writer, they should have a book editor to clean it up for them.
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soso Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
@Hippo, Ozzie Mozzie David Schirmer uses that quote all the time but funny thing is he apparently has no clue as to what it really means when it comes to paying people back.
These guys steal, maim, manipulate, destroy everything that was ever spoken by anyone at any time if they think it sounds catchy. Trouble is its become so damn boring that nobody takes any notice anyway. We should let them waffle on in their own “little” world because it gets more amusing by the minute.
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# 25 May 2010 at 8:13 am

Light said:
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The world would be a better place without you in it.
You’re the only “D-Bag” mentioned on this entire site.
You take good, honest hardworking people and to feel
better about your own lack of success or happiness
you put others down. You’re no better than any below-
average bully… and btw “robot genius” — in your other
post — in the title, you misspelled “relevant”.
The world could breathe easier if you would just cease
to exist. You’re trying to be the “James Randi” of WWW,
and yet, you clearly aren’t intelligent enough to write
a coherent thought, without putting someone else down.
Every word you write on this blog is a waste of space.
Do something with your life and get out of your mother’s basement.
I promise you, all the energy you’ve put into hurting other people
will come back on you a hundred fold. Just watch and see.
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Hippo Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 10:51 am
@Light,
If you don’t like this blog, why don’t you stop reading it?
Maybe I’m just a simpleton, but I think it’s fabulous.
I have been suckered by people similar to James Ray, and I find this entire site to be a breath of fresh air.
It’s not only fun, but cathartic, and I have become quite fond of Mr. Salty.
You’re really in no position to determine whether or not Mr. Salty is offering anything of value.
If somebody died and left you in charge, I must have missed it.
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RunBrunsonRun Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 11:37 am
@Light,
Have you read any of the posts on this site?
It’s obvious that D-bags like Brunson and Filsaime are criminals who don’t flinch at taking their marks for every penny they have.
If Salty can save even one person from these scammers then he’s added more value to the world than you ever will.
BTW, which of these D-bags do you work for?
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spoonfaceboy Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
@Light,
See here, this is something I don’t understand.
You say … (I only hear what I want to …)
“I promise you, all the energy you’ve put into hurting other people
will come back on you a hundred fold. Just watch and see.”
Let’s assume you’ve hit upon a fundamental truth of life.
In light of that truth, wouldn’t it also be true that if JARay used his energy to murder/death/kill people then …
… the sodium chloride-y robot is merely a tool in the hands of the universe to blast JARay with 100x’s the hurt he dished out?
(Of course, that 100x’s thing is symbolic. Obviously JARay can’t actually reap the same murder/death/kill energy he dished out 100 times without some serious Lazarus magic in the mix.)
It’d be a silly cycle if the evil-doers were punished by the righteous only to then have the righteous recategorized as evil-doers and subsequently punished by the righteous who were then recategorized as evil-doers and punished by the righteous …
See how that doesn’t make any sense? (unless you’re at the The Hague)
The way out of that is to take sides. Either the evil-doers are bad and are being “punished” fairly or they’re not actually evil-doers at all and are being “punished” unfairly.
I think what you really meant to say was you don’t think JARay or his cohorts did anything wrong and you’re on their sides.
(Did you promise yourself that you will receive 100x’s the hurtful energy you’ve put into defending JARay and spearing Salty’s (lack of) editing skills?)
Next time, unlike this uncharacteristically super boring post of mine, speak softly and carry a big stick — in the crack of yo’ ass. Dufus.
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soso Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
@Light, Could that be a comment by a Dufus D-Bag hisself?
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SD Reply:
May 26th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
@Light ::
I’m sorry that you have yet to come to terms with my greatness :: but that’s not going to stop me from saving the island.
Thanks for spotting the typo … that was a bad one.
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# 25 May 2010 at 10:44 am

Duff said:
I demand that all my sentences too.
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Rafael Marquez Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
@Duff,
Well if Duff is getting all his sentences, then I demand all my senteces also.
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# 25 May 2010 at 12:04 pm

Yakaru said:
A wise decision Droid, to stop at the acknowledgments. It’s probably the only part which verges on coherence and normal English.
JAR: “…long before there was any major physical evidence…”
I guess he’d rephrase that part now.
“…As mystical as it may seem, I truly believe there are no accidents in this universe.”
Just make sure you say that in court, James. Remember that place where you claimed that accidetns happen, and that you’re flat broke?
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# 25 May 2010 at 2:14 pm

Kjv79 said:
Yes, I am truly ashamed to say that I owned this book, but never did complete it. (Actually paid full price for it at Barnes &Noble). Don’t know where it is now nor will I bother to look for it…. Can’t even remember much about what I read either…
BTW, I was first drawn to this website because of Andy & Brad, who ripped me off 6 years ago in their pre Stompernet “coaching scheme.” Nasty guys (esp Andy), I couldn’t understand why no one ever wrote anything negative online about them for years until now. How’s Brad divorce trial going?
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# 25 May 2010 at 4:21 pm

YahYahSister said:
Having incomplete sentences in the acknowledgments is pretty common. But that doesn’t excuse the douchebaggery.
Feminine principle my ass.
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# 25 May 2010 at 7:46 pm

Bryan Neuman said:
I’ve burned a few copies of this book. Keep up the amazing work SD! Love it!
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# 25 May 2010 at 8:25 pm

Jean D said:
Speaking of book burnings,here’s this youtube link,again. BTW,I’m not the author,but would sure like to know who is.
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Jean D Reply:
May 25th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
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# 25 May 2010 at 9:35 pm

corsair said:
Ray will be locked down soon enough.
For those of you who might want a new car… I’ve found the perfect way for you to get one. Normally I’d say to work hard, work smart, save your money… the usual. But Dr. Joe has a program that will manifest and attract the car of your dreams to you.
http://www.attractanewcar.com
This is too good to be true. I want a new car and now, by following this program I’ll manifest a brand new Porsche GT2 into my garage. For all of you hoofing it here’s your chance to get the car of your dreams.
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# 26 May 2010 at 3:38 pm

Felix said:
I sense that there are quite a few people commenting on this blog who have been hurt, very deeply hurt by the action of the people mentioned on these blogs. I ponder, do these D-Bags ever stop to consider the massively negative impact that they are having on other peoples lives? Being cocky, deceptive, destructive, selfish, disloyal, untrustworthy, etc. etc. only has merit if you want to be hated for the rest of your life.
Perhaps these guys are enjoying the enormous amount of hate coming back at them now. Poor choices come from small people and these guys are the epitome of smallness and will forever be remembered for what they have done.
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# 26 May 2010 at 5:19 pm

Brad said:
I also bought the Attract A New Car product by Joe Vitale. What a ripoff.
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Bro Reply:
May 26th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
@Brad, I’m hoping that Joe Vitale will buy and use the product, “Attract the wrath of the government.”
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# 26 May 2010 at 6:38 pm

Dave Q. said:
Where is there here some great information on scamsters, scumbags and douches?
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stoic Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 1:16 am
@Dave Q.,
There is a great thread on James Ray here:
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,77450,page=90
that dissects his method and incidentally shows how all LGAT’s, seminars, mass sales and snake-oil peddlers work to persuade and scam.
The entire site is a resource for educating yourself in scamology and how to avoid getting caught by these hucksters.
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Dave Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
@stoic,
Ah, yes…been there many times. A great resource, indeed.
I guess you missed my snarky little insertion of the word “here” in the question. My attempt at sarcasm and ridicule, aimed at James Arthur Ray. I guess to some degree, it actually proves how sneaky these subliminal messages can be.
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stoic Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
@Dave,
I’m not too hot on the NLP word insertions, anything I’ve learned has been from Anticult pointing this out. I tend to naively assume a mispront or just poor grammar rather than a deliberate attempt at thought reform the James Arthur Ray way, so still a bit blind to this stuff myself!
I am keen to get the word out though so take advantage of Mr Salty’s brilliant site to post the odd link.
Please pardon my being slow on the uptake and missing your point.
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Dave Q. Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 3:11 pm
@stoic,
Hey, no apologies necessary. I’m just a babe in the woods in these things myself. It’s just that this JAR bullshit weighs so heavily on me–to the point of literal nausea–that I have to inject some attempts at humor in for my own sanity’s sake. It’s almost too much to think about, otherwise. I can barely imagine the horror that the families of Ray’s victims must feel, as he continues to put out his crap out on the web.
By the way, I first heard about this site on the Rick Ross Forums; I’ve been a regular reader ever since. I’m glad for the cross postings.
d
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# 27 May 2010 at 12:56 pm

Jean D said:
James Ray looks like he’s losing it,folks. He posted a new video on Twitter this morning. http://tinyurl.com/yb7bcz6 He is unshaven and can barely speak. Notice the repetition of words and phrases,and disjointed thoughts.His eyeliner is drawn around his eyelids and under his eyes,not blended in at all. He reminds me of those alcoholic old ladies who pencil on their eyebrows and their lipstick is all around their lips.
You have to wonder who’s working with this clown and if they are as far removed from reality as he is. But from all practical appearances,he seems to be all alone in his house(is it still for sale or in foreclosure?) putting together these miserable videos and self-medicating his insanity.
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wondering why Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
@Jean D,
I tried to listen to it Jean but he makes me gag..
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stoic Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
@Jean D,
I tried to listen too–same gag reflex. He must be getting more desperate as the time of his trial approaches, it must be harder to maintain the denial with each day. What little bit of the vid I did watch made me think that his efforts are as much about convincing himself that everthing is OK and proceeding according to the plan of _cartman_’s “Univeral Mine” as about keeping the followers onside.
They do say that the most successful conmen have to first con themselves into believing their own bullshit. DeathRay is going to find it increasingly harder to maintain that belief and I can’t pretend any sympathy for him, whatever happens.
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Jean D Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
@stoic,I agree.Conmen like Ray must have a completely different brain structure,especially the ones who kill.That’s an interesting observation you made about the cat scene. I cannot for the life of me,understand who needs LOA for their pets! Pets ARE the Law of Attraction, that’s why their called “pets”. They are automatically attracted to their owners! But for a cat-suffocater, making a pet happpy must be a major esoteric concept.
@wondering why You are so far beyond anything Ray-related. He’s not even in the human race. In the words of Morrison,serial killers are a “sub-species” of human.
@Yakaru, The disregard for and lack of understanding of science burns me up,too. Rays’ statement about “theology and religion are no longer separate and are now coming together” sounds like a complete “stoner theory” that he arrived at last week and decided to add to his video. Did Ray just suddenly crawl out of drug-induced cave world? Oh wait, yes. Otherwise, he would know many scientists are religious,just as many religious people are scientific. It’s always been that way. Jimmy seriously needs to read something besides prescription bottles once in a while.
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# 28 May 2010 at 9:23 am

Jean D said:
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stoic Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
@Jean D,
Given the rumours about James Ray, as a minor, suffocating and then reviving local cats to demonstrate his godlike powers, that clip is quite creepy. I’m sure the Oz comedians didn’t expect to hit so close to the mark!
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jonas Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 6:21 am
@Jean D, Sounds like a few of the secreteers had a particular HATE for cats.
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# 28 May 2010 at 10:01 am

Yakaru said:
I quit after about quarter of the Ray vid, after stopping several times. All his new stuff is about “facing challenges”, and how it doesn’t matter if you’re facing challenges, as long as you hold to these 3 or 5 or 7 principles, depending on what day it is.
He looks really whacked out and desperate.
And I hate it when these new age creeps, whoever they are, start pretending that “science and spirituality are starting to say the same things”. They are if you completely disregard all of science in its complete entirety and go only with what ignorant loonies like D-Bag Chopra and Gary Suck-Off say.
Quantum physics does not say that the observer creates his reality according to what he is looking for. It says that some phenomena can be measured as a wave or as a particle, and not that it actually becomes a wave or particle according the observer’s orders. It’s no big deal and has fuck all to do with “creating you’re own reality”.
And if we really do “scientifically” attract events to us according to what we are looking for, then Ray should be facing four counts of first degree murder. Or he would not be charged with anything, and neither would all the people who corner him at his next seminar and beat the crap out of him.
This really pisses me off. His whole defense is based on the assertion that it was a “tragic accident”. Why then is he still peddling this crap that we attract events to us as plainly as 1+1=2? I hate it enough when non-killers talk this rubbish. Hearing it from this dribbling homicidal maniac is really too much.
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stoic Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
@Yakaru,
Let’s hope that the Yavapai prosecution team picks up on the glaring inconsistency in his claims–when things go wrong its a ‘tragic acccident’ and no-one is to blame, even for negligence; the rest of the time he preaches that there are no accidents and his entire business model is predicated upon LOA and Nietzsche’s will-to-power.
I sincerely hope that the ‘Master of the Universe’ garbage he has been spewing on twitter and youtube since the ‘tragic accident’ gets an airing in front of the jury.
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anonymous Reply:
May 31st, 2010 at 10:05 pm
@Yakaru, If it was a “tragic accident” as James Ray asserts then he SHOULD SHOW SOME FREAKING RESPECT for the families of his victims and choose another vocation. He is shameless along with other secreteers mentioned no this blog.
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Yakaru Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 1:31 pm
@anonymous,
Yeh, and why was Megan Fredrickson, the “Director of Operations” (which translates from Rayspeak as “event organizer”) hiding in the gift shop the whole time instead of giving police the names of the victims so that the families could be contacted.
They should have collected medical data from each participant, too, knowing full well that they intended to place their participants in grave physical danger. Instead they just got them all to sign death waivers, and then hid the participant lists from police.
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Jean D Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 3:14 pm
@Yakaru, How I wish the events at Sedona had unfolded differently. I posted a version of this at Cosmic Connie’s blog today:
The other day I was talking to a woman about “self-help” scammers. She told me she attended a free seminar with a friend several years ago. After the lecture,people paired off to “talk”. The guy she was partnered with began to ask,”What aspects of your life do you want to change?” She told him she was content with her life and really didn’t want to change anything. This made him start asking personal questions to which she replied,”My life is none of your f***ing business!” At that point,like vultures waiting for carion,four people,who were apparently watching the group,swooped in,made a circle around her,and began to use language geared toward making her “realize” how unhappy she was. She then stood up and shouted,”All of you get the hell away from me!”. She found her friend and pulled him out of the building,warning him never to invite her to such an event again.
I’m sure LGAT folks might read this anecdote and say,”This woman had some issues or she would not have been so hostile!” Wrong,folks! Getting angry and hostile in certain situations is a sign of good mental health. There’s a mechanism of self-protection that exists within us from millions of years of evolution. It is outrage that makes us reject danger, and is this very mechanism that LGAT leaders seek to break down by encouraging “like-mindedness”.(One classic publication about the dangers of being “too nice” is “Creative Aggression” by Bach and Goldberg.)
I believe Colleen Conaway lost her life because she became angry and wanted out of the game. Unfortunately, a few months later in Sedona,James Ray destroyed the altruistic nature and outrage of his participants, which resulted in 3 more deaths.
Had normal human outrage been present among the Sedona participants, news stories might have appeared something like this:
“On October 8,2009,the Yavapai County Sheriff Department was called to Angel Valley near Sedona to escort James Arthur Ray and his employees out of town after Ray’s assistant,Megan Fredrickson called and indicated they were afraid to leave their rooms. Apparently Ray had angered his participants when he refused to let them tend to several people who had exhibited distress during an imitation sweat lodge activity. As participants began to help each other, Ray reportedly shouted at them to stop,but participants shouted back and threatened him if he didn’t get out of their way. At that point,Ray and JRI employees ran to their rooms, barricaded themselves inside, and called for help. To date,all participants are making full recoveries and are expected to join in a class action lawsuit. James Ray and JRI have made no official comment.”
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