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The Revelation of Sandy Jenkins said:
Nice one SaltyDroid. Those pictures are truly nauseating, but all the more sickening is what these dbags are doing. Putting pictures up of your kids and mixing it with your cheesy marketing schemes is just disgusting. Have you no shame or limits as to how far you’ll go to get a dollar?? You mean to tell me that you’d prostitute your kids to make your marketing more palatable to the masses? It’s an old trick that seems to have worked. Put up pictures and videos of and about your kids, so that people will be able to relate to you, since almost everyone has families and kids. Just sick.
Sandy Jenkins really does look like a drag queen in the making. He/she should ask Belcher to donate his man-boobs
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SD Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
@The Revelation of Sandy Jenkins ::
The Belcher Moobs are a bit saggy for my taste …
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# 27 May 2010 at 4:45 am

Fanny Spanker said:
here’s one I spotted earlier http://twitpic.com/show/full/1q5m42
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Dang Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Wow, is he having doubts about his sexuality or something? Strange new look, obesity, and middle age…not flattering.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +5
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Hmmm Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Interesting that the comment above from “Dang” has a -1 thumbs down (as of this moment, anyway). I’m sure that will change to the positive, but it does reveal one thing: the scamming DOUCHEBAG(S) obviously read this site!
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# 27 May 2010 at 5:56 am

Kern's Balls said:
This one is great.

WOW
That Frank Kern is one cool dude

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Bob Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
@Kern’s Balls, Hysterical! That was obviously before the hippie beach bum makeover. Interesting to see the REAL Kern without the costume.
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get a bath Kern geez Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@Kern’s Balls, those pictures are very sweet and touching, especially the couple’s shot of kern and reese. How long have they been together now? Boy, kern surely has a dork face, and that beard and flea-bitten greasy hair is not hiding his dork face.
Is that kern’s momma in the middle?
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SD Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
@Kern’s Balls ::
That is an adorable couples shot. I hope they cuddled afterwards.
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Matt Reply:
October 9th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
@Kern’s Balls,
Ed Dale looks like a nasty old woman!
GaROSS!
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# 27 May 2010 at 6:18 am

Rafael Marquez said:
Looking at those pictures you know that Sandy is single. No self respecting significant other would let someone out of the house looking like that.
WINNER!! ::   +9
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# 27 May 2010 at 11:13 am

Frank said:
Jenkins is starting to look like that slimy aging lounge singer “Tony Clifton” (done by Andy Kaufman). I wonder if he sings “I Love the Night Life” (“disco ‘rouuuund”)…
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# 27 May 2010 at 1:31 pm

Dave said:
Andy Jenkins tried to claim once that he was the star of his high school football team. If he had a position on the field it would’ve been the “water boy”.
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# 27 May 2010 at 1:49 pm

grown-up said:
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seriously? all the legitimate dirt you claim to have on all these people, and you come up with this smear piece on andy jenkins because you don’t like how he looks?
for a few months now, i’ve been trying to figure out whether you mean for this blog to be taken seriously. i think i have my answer–we both know (or at least i know–do you?) that attacks on a person’s appearance are the kind of bitchy school-girl taunts people fall back on when they have no real ammunition.
i know this’ll get voted down but i don’t care–as long as you really do leave it up, somebody will read it, and to anyone that does, i ask: does this strike you as a piece of intelligent journalism, or as the whining of a person who doesn’t like fat people?
LOSER!! ::   -27
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Phil Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
@grown-up, Your name obviously doesn’t fit you. It certainly doesn’t describe your intellect or lack thereof.
SD has said before his objective is to make DBs SQUIRM. That may involve a variety of tactics, including what you’ve read here. You’ll notice SD provides evidence or commentary as to why he considers these people bonafied DBs BEFORE he pokes fun of them in other ways. Read the previous posts about Jenkins and you’ll see some very specific accusations that have nothing to do with his appearance.
To borrow the old phrase, if you can’t stand the heat, don’t be a DB.
There is NO love from anyone here for AJ except from his little buddy squad who come here specifically to defend him and his arrogance (and who are DBs themselves).
WINNER!! ::   +10
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
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@Phil, “You’ll notice SD provides evidence or commentary as to why he considers these people bonafied DBs BEFORE he pokes fun of them in other ways. ”
That’s not entirely true …not seen anything about the Ed Dale guy on here
LOSER!! ::   -14
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Phil Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
@Fanny Spanker, Your comment doesn’t refute that. The post wasn’t about Ed Dale, and SD simply made a reasonable aside about NOT involving your children in your marketing.
WINNER!! ::   +10
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grown-up Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
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@Phil:
a couple of usage notes before i address the substance of your argument:
(1) you should write *bona fide*, as in latin for “in good faith;” not *bonafied*, as in the passive voice of the non-existent verb *to bonafy.*
(2) you should write *to poke fun at* or *to make fun of*, but not *to poke fun of.*
(at first i was a little hurt by your remark about my intellect, but if you’re borderline illiterate, as the word “bonafied” suggests, i’ll consider it a compliment.)
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as i mentioned in my post, i’ve been reading this for a while. i know what sd claims to have on andy jenkins, and on the other “douchebags.” and i know what he wrote here.
in this post he makes the following points:
1) andy isn’t attractive
2) andy’s picture is on ed dale’s web site
3) so are some pictures of ed dale’s kids
4) andy has a mid-life crisis haircut
5) andy is working with frank kern
the post is headed by an image of a korean dictator repeating a line spoken by a vietnamese prostitute in *full metal jacket*. which is, as far as i can tell, utterly unrelated to anything important. it suggests that the dictator will be having sex with andy, i guess–is this something you take seriously, phil? if so, are you out of high school?
nothing here is a substantive attack on anything aj has done–at best it’s an attack on dale’s use of his family in his marketing. andy’s appearance is irrelevant. why this would make anybody squirm is beyond me. all it does is dilute the rest of what’s on the blog.
*ad hominem* attacks are, as sd surely knows (or should know), what you resort to when you’re out of everything else but still want to make some noise and get some attention, or what you use when you’re a child incapable of separating what matters from what doesn’t. every article like this is a win for the dbs.
sd: no intelligent person can take you seriously when you write this stuff. surely you realize that. you’ve gotten so tangled up in your mission that you’ve become almost incoherent. have somebody whose opinion you respect read this and see if they say otherwise.
LOSER!! ::   -32
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Ron Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
@grown-up, SD owes you nothing based on YOUR definitions and standards. There is no standardized criteria for railing against douchebags. By the way, you are not the blog owner nor are you on the editorial board, in case you aren’t sure of your role. You are, however, a tool. Now, go insert your head back into your favorite douchebag’s anus, and continue lapping it up.
By the way, your interesting use of quotation marks around the term, douchebags (as if to devalue it), indicates you are no friend of this blog and most certainly one of the DOUCHEBAGS.
WINNER!! ::   +10

stoic Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 12:21 am
@grown-up,
Not so grown-up as to recognise the value of poking fun at self-important, self-elected authoritarian types who take their own BS too seriously?
Ridicule and satire are potent political tools, were that not so you wouldn’t be on this blog defending these scumbags, trying to subvert the laughter and re-establish the scumbags spurious veneer of integrity and authority.
Kudos to Mr Salty for employing them both these tools effectively.
WINNER!! ::   +10

Uncle Roy Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Well said, stoic! Excellent summation, as usual.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +6
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Ultra Valerian Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
@grown-up,
I can’t say I’ve ever thought the Droid was “whiny”. As to your question about whether or not this “strikes [me] as a piece of serious journalism”, I say this is a blog, not a journalistic publication. It certainly strikes me as intelligent, if often profane. Most importantly, the droid appears to have a MUCH longer attention span and better analytical skills than those producing mainstream media.
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whine bitch whine Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
@grown-up, there is NO MERCY for you psychopathic scammers. Anything is fair game with you, so stop crying pissy bitch and man up.
Having said that, your looks are the least of anyone’s concerns, rest assured we have our main focus on putting YOU in PRISON permanently.
Sandy Jenkins will definitely be considered a “hottie” in prison, though :)
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# 27 May 2010 at 2:37 pm

PercyPennyWhistle said:
What’s Greg “The Hammer” Valentine doing stood next to Kim Jong-il?
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Laughmeister Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
@PercyPennyWhistle, Oh, that’s funny. You can’t see the tights in the picture, but maybe that’s a GOOD thing.
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# 27 May 2010 at 3:03 pm

Mack the Knife said:
Wow, he’s definitely got a Kern Meatloaf fetish going on here.
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# 27 May 2010 at 3:56 pm

RJ said:
Dude looks like a past his prime country and western singer doing the truckstop circuit! He really should cut back on the butter and fried chicken (or at least stop eating an entire flock at a time).
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# 27 May 2010 at 6:48 pm

Frank Rizzo said:
@grown-up
Geez … somebody hasn’t been laid in awhile.
The post was funny as hell. Relax.
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Electric Toaster Reply:
May 27th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
@Frank Rizzo, “@grown-up” can’t relax because HE’S a douchebag himself and afraid he might be next, which of course, he will be.
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 12:24 am
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@Electric Toaster, aww cmon, surely that old line of “if you object you are one of “them”" is a little old. I know it was made popular by that McCarthy fellow way back when, but we are beyond that – surely.
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stoic Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 1:08 am
@Fanny Spanker,
We aren’t beyond anything at all–human nature doesn’t change despite the technological advances.
The old ones have been working for millenia and they’ll be working for a few millenia more.
Barnum said it: There’s a new sucker born every second, that’s been adapted by Joe Vitale and his fellow scammers into: There’s a new customer born every second.
Depressing but true. Education in how these these scams on us (and they appeal to all of us) is our only defence.
WINNER!! ::   +9
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 3:24 am
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@stoic, err yeah it’s pretty hard to make clear in text i was pointing out the toaster is one of the rabid rabble.
Next time I will just respond “fuckwit” or similar for the lead paint lickers in the class.
Grown-up is probably a very sensible person just pointing out an opinion that happens to be different to the toaster’s. Alas the toaster can’t help putting on the brown shirt and coming back the the if you aren’t with us you are against us stuff. I hear that is very popular amongst Americans.
LOSER!! ::   -8
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Frank Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
@Fanny Spanker, Which side are you really on? Maybe you are an IMer with a rotating conscience. Who knows.
“grown up” wasn’t merely expressing an opinion. He was giving a lecture, and attempting to INJECT it as the “only” possible stance, based on his own ego. It’s pretty obvious which side HE’S on.
Now I wonder about you. Perhaps your opinions are variable, as in, it depends on what day of the week it is, or whether you allow exceptions for certain douchebags you like or are acquainted with.
I’m well aware that a number of IM’ers come here and get their rocks off from seeing their competitors get called out, but quickly change their tune when it’s someone on their buddy list. Is that you?
WINNER!! ::   +8

Carl Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
@Fanny Spanker:
Your comment: “aww cmon, surely that old line of “if you object you are one of “them”” is a little old. I know it was made popular by that McCarthy fellow way back when, but we are beyond that – surely.”
So as long as someone doesn’t specifically identify themself as “one” of them, but spouts out an extreme rant that totally favors the DBs, they get a free pass?
Sorry, you lose. Thank you for playing Jeopardy. We have some (not so) nice parting gifts for you.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +5
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
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@Frank,
RE:
“Which side are you really on?” Interesting question that one.
If you go back to the early posts the SD made you will notice that he points out the dangers of “group think” and that human nature means that we are all capable of being scammed, AND being the scammer.
I am on the side of reminding people that being a cunt to other people is not giving you extra bonus points in the “I am better than these DBag IM people” stakes.
So yeah I choose to be an individual, and recognise that in the IM world (just like in the real world) there are some decent people that sell things on the internet as well as people who cheat, lie and ripoff. This is no surprise, my comments have always said that.
It is not funny at all that people here think they are fighting for the poor and downtrodden on the internet by bullying and abusive behaviour. Terrible hypocrisy hey?
But that is what extremists do.
I respect the right to have an opinion (and to express it), even if I disagree with it.
@carl see above. Maybe go back and read some of SDs stuff about human nature again and think about how it could apply to you and all you “good ol’ boys”
LOSER!! ::   -10
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Carl Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
@Fanny Spanker, What you say should also apply to you, no? (Or, “NO!”?) I clearly see hypocrisy.
And “bullying?” Are you serious? Perhaps we should have a tea party and all hold hands? You know, dialog over pure monetary greed? That ALWAYS wins in the end, right?
I’m perfectly willing to believe in Santa Claus, but only one day a year, and this isn’t it.
Stoic summed it all up perfectly in his comment near the top of the page.
WINNER!! ::   +7

Carl Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
@Fanny Spanker, Oh, and by the way, “all you “good ol’ boys” is an attempt at marginalization. It invalidates your candy-coated wrap-around “above reproach” posturing. That’s fine, as long as you accept that such b.s. tactics can be applied to you as well. You know, as in, “you and your kind.”
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Not an IM-er; Just Open-Minded Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
@Fanny Spanker,
“I am on the side of reminding people that being a cunt to other people is not giving you extra bonus points in the “I am better than these DBag IM people” stakes.”
AGREED!! :-)
A disturbing trend is forming on the Comments section of this blog; that is, any dissenting opinions — no matter how well-formulated — are immediately criticized or condemned (sometimes even through name-calling or other non-analytical tactics). But….isn’t this the EXACT same type of behavior that scammers & faux gurus (like James Ray, Joe Vitale, & such) engage in & encourage among their followers — the “ignore and dissociate from ALL who don’t agree with you” mentality?
In other words, isn’t this symptomatic of a growing cult-type mentality, here?
While some people who comment are trolls, obviously, others just seem to be expressing their opinions, yet they are ridiculed without a second thought, just the same. I completely understood where “grown-up” & “Fanny Spanker” were coming from….did any of you who instantly voted “Thumbs-down” take a moment to even try to see their reasons for saying what they did? You don’t have to agree with everything that everyone says, but, really — this growing mob mentality is just detracting from any real value that this blog might have.
(….Which is a shame, as it’s extremely important that all of the IM scammers, con men, & other unsavory characters out there are stopped, somehow, before they can steal more money from people or commit other criminal acts. I, as with most of you, think this blog is very valuable, & I hate to see it demeaned by people who just want to engage in juvenile name-calling, like “whine bitch whine.”)
BTW, I’ve never been involved in the field of Internet Marketing, but I have been scammed by several of the people mentioned elsewhere on this site. As such, I’d like to see more of their real scams & “secrets” exposed; just mocking them for their appearances doesn’t really achieve much, in the way of damaging their credibility.
WINNER!! ::   +14

bob Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
@Not an IM-er; Just Open-Minded
Oh lord, whenever I see that kind of rhetoric on this blog it never fails to be someone who IS one of those clowns.
These guys like to bitch that everyone here is closed minded (translation: doesn’t agree with them).
Let me guess, you must be “grown ups” twin.
Sorry I couldn’t be more open minded, but where I come from (earth) it’s ok to have a different viewpoint and state it, kind of like you just did. Feel free to disagree.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +2

Not an IM-er; Just Open-Minded Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
@carl,
I didn’t get the impression that anyone was talking about having a tea party and all holding hands; it’s just a matter of not lowering ourselves to the (very low) standards of the IM scammers by resorting to name-calling & useless in-fighting.
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
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@Carl
I have never excused myself here for being human. Example: I have openly called myself a racist for disliking a lot of what America and Americans stand for. Or that I quite like fighting on the internet.
I do think many people here are a bunch of rednecks and ignorant twats, but I am not going to then accuse them of being a scammer or a con artist for expressing their opinion.
Remember SDs Venn diagram? Here’s another one. Not all commenters here that don’t agree with SD are IMers, and not all that do agree are not IMers.
I work hard at being self aware and that means recognising a lot of things that a lot of people seem blind to. Still just me saying that will have people feeling defensive and angry and will be hitting the thumbs down because it’s much better to be in a crowd of idiots and feel at home, than it is being an individual and copping the arrows from the group of idiots.
@Not an IM-er; Just Open-Minded thanks, much appreciated :)
LOSER!! ::   -9

Carl Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
@Fanny Spanker, Remember that working hard at being self aware also means being vigilant to the possibility that in any moment, you may just be bullshitting yourself into thinking that you ARE currently self aware, or “more” aware than those around you. Perhaps you are, but then, perhaps you are not? Even supposed self awareness should be open to constant question.
Anyway, you’ve been mostly civil (with the exception of the “good old boys” crack), so I’m going to bite my tongue (twice, maybe even three times) and give your last comment a thumbs up. Of course, I realize just my doing that should qualify me to be in your “ignorant twat” category.
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Carl Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
@Not an IM-er; Just Open-Minded: OH! I see, SD is required to follow some particular set of touchy-feely constraints in calling out these guys. That’s certainly GREAT news for them, because THEY don’t appear to be constrained by any such requirements. Do you think SD should also put mints under their pillows?
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Not an IM-er; Just Open-Minded Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
@Carl and @bob,
I’ve spent the past five years fighting for the rights of consumers who have been defrauded, and not only did I devote almost all of my waking hours to this cause, but I also paid for all of the related expenses out of my own pocket. Thus, my opinion that fighting scammers with real evidence of crimes and disreputable acts, rather than name-calling & unrelated mockery, is just based upon my personal experience with helping victims and seeking legal justice with regard to these scammers.
(@bob BTW, the fact that you referred to me as “one of those clowns” just emphasizes the point that I was trying to make earlier; too many people on here are engaging in totally unfounded attacks upon each other — upon perfect strangers, even — without any actual knowledge or insight into what they’re trying to say. I never said that it wasn’t acceptable to disagree, just that people should think a bit before engaging in name-calling or other such futile things. If I was “one of those clowns”, why have I dedicated a large portion of my life to fighting against IM scammers? Sadly, your own statements certainly seem to indicate that you are quite closed-minded….and that you didn’t understand what I actualy wrote, at all.)
WINNER!! ::   +10

bob Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Not an IM-er; Just Open-Minded, In what capacity did you fight for the rights of consumers? I’m not questioning that, just curious.
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Not an IM-er; Just Open-Minded Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
@bob,
As is the case with just about everyone who views this blog (except for the real scammers themselves, that is), I was infuriated by the vast number of people around me who were being conned and taken advantage of; thus, I originally began just by filing complaints with the relevant “authority figures” (such as the Office of the Attorney General, the FTC, the FCC, the BBB, etc. — whichever would be most helpful in the matter), myself, or by helping others (who were having difficulties) to formulate & file their complaints. However, in the majority of the cases, these institutions either did not have the time or did not feel inclined to review the matters, so I then began contacting other Federal officials — Senators, Congresspeople, & the like — with the most egregious and illegal cases, as well as posting information about the issues online (and forwarding it to other consumer groups, both on and off the Internet). Long story short (though it’s already quite long ;) )…almost all of the cases involved months, if not years, of writing letters, making calls, meeting with officials, and even pursuing it through legal channels. (At one point, I was literally spending over 60 hours per week just writing the documents & filing them with the appropriate agencies or courts.) And, with every new case of fraud that was brought to my attention, there were at least about 10-50 more, right behind it….Sadly, however, it’s obscenely difficult to fight fraud or to get real justice — just look at those poor people who couldn’t even get their money back from James A. Ray, or all the people who continue to get ripped off by those mentioned on this site :-( — so it’s been an on-going battle…but one which obviously has to be fought, given the fact that so many continue to be scammed & defrauded.
(That’s why I’m so glad that blogs like this one exist, to help expose the con artists — it just upsets me to see the amount of name-calling and juvenile antics in some of the comments….and it seems to be getting much worse. That was my main point earlier, really; it’s SD’s blog & he can do and say whatever he wishes, but it bothers me that people keep attacking each other without even trying to understand what others are trying to say…even condemning people as being scammers, themselves, ONLY because they give dissenting opinions. It devalues the blog, & almost makes me not want to read it anymore, because there’s this growing “mob mentality” — and that just doesn’t seem to be an effective way to resolve anything. It just turns people off, you know? Too much bickering & snap judgments, without actual intellectual debate or the sharing of knowledge. You were right that everyone should be able to disagree….I just think it would be more effective if people here didn’t keep putting each other down so much.)
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Ultra Valerian Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
@Carl, Yeesh, what did you do so wrong that your comments are being marked down. D-Bags.
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Carl Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
@Ultra Valerian, I think it was because I used my U.N. security council vote to veto extending common courtesy to DBs, but I could be wrong. Or, maybe someone just doesn’t like the color of my anonymous skin. On the plus side, I was looking for an excuse to cry over some beer, so “all’s well that ends well!”
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# 27 May 2010 at 10:35 pm

Ed who? said:
Who is Ed Dale and what the hell is the deal with posting photos of his kids? Who in the hell would stoop that low?
“Ed captured it and posted to his Flickr page … where you can also see MANY pictures of his children. Mixing your kids up with your marketing hype :: NEVER acceptable. Have some fucking shame pigs :: gosh!”
Preach on brother, preach on!
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
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@Ed who?,
Here’s a question – If you have pictures of your kids on Flickr and pictures of where you work, does that make you a DBag?
I say no.
Some people really do take pictures of their kids because they love their kids.
Not everyone is a a terrorist, no matter what Big Brother tells you
LOSER!! ::   -12
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Red Hatted Burmese Python Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
@Fanny Spanker, What percentage of real businesses and corporations link from their home page or business blog to pictures of employees’ or their own children? How many of them mix kiddie pics in with business pics?
You know DARN WELL that this is an attempt to elicit trust and lower sales defenses. Or, stupidity. Take your pick. Neither is a good excuse.
It’ really rather appalling that you would try to defend the shameful use of “children as marketing tools.”
Do you have pics of your children on your sales pages? Are they to induce sales, or something purely “innocent,” like just showing off to pedophiles?
Sheesh man.
WINNER!! ::   +7
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
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@Red Hatted Burmese Python,
Flickr is a image repository not a sales page. Like it or not, people do keep pictures of their kids, and pictures for their business blogs on it. Doesn’t necessarily “mean” anything at all.
Hope you don’t keep pictures of your kids where you work, because that MUST mean you are using them for your own nefarious purposes
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Red Hatted Burmese Python Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
@Fanny Spanker, I’m aware of how Flickr works. Nobody that I know puts pics of their kids on the open internet and references them from their business web site or blog. Even on Facebook, you have to be on someone’s “Friends List” to see family photos.
In the society we live in, there is NO wisdom in openly posting pics of your kids. At the very least, it’s completely foolish. And there are even internet marketers who post pics of their kids right at the top of their business home page. The message is: “How could a guy with kids this cute NOT be honest and good to BUY from?”
Now, if someone wants to yank peoples’ strings with PUPPY pictures, feel free. At least they can’t be followed to and from school.
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Ultra Valerian Reply:
May 28th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
@Red Hatted Burmese Python, I know someone (personally, not just online) who does include pictures of her kids on a page where she review products for pay, but as a “mommy-blogger” it’s kind of part of the package since a lot of the time the kids’ opinions are key. Personally, it makes my skin crawl, but you’d have to jump through an awful lot of hoops to get a hold of their last name to track said kids home from school.
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# 28 May 2010 at 6:38 am

RJ said:
To the few naysayers who don’t like Salty’s ways of slapping at folks he considers to be bad apples: this is HIS blog, his style has not varied since he started it, and he clearly “ain’t gonna change now.”
Given all that, your pointless criticisms of him really just make you look like defenders of the con.
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# 28 May 2010 at 9:21 pm

SD (author) said:
@grown-up {and others} ::
What gave you the impression that I was trying to be taken seriously? Was it the “fuck this fuck that?” Was it the made up punctuation? The juvenile sexual references? The fake robot part? The fact that I require readers to where a tie on tuesdays and thursdays? What?
The message is serious … the presentation is fucking hysterical {pats self on back}. So basically you’re an idiot … but I’m going to respond to you anyway …
1. You’re kind of missing the whole point. As @Not an IMer pointed to above … trying to stop fraud is thankless-borderline-hopeless. There are massive complications and expenses involved in investigating and prosecuting it … and there are thousands and thousands of small time operators. This blog is acting as a very small {but growing} deterrent. One of the main reasons is that vain and controlling assholes with massive egos :: and equally massive insecurities :: are completely terror stricken about the prospect of ending up here because I’m so damn mean. No one likes being the butt of the joke … and jokes are orders of magnitude less expensive than prosecutions.
2. And know this :: those aren’t just random barbs. They are totally awesome :: smoking hot burns. I agree with you that they are very base and silly. But they are EXACTLY what Andy doesn’t want to hear.
Andy :: in his infinite unwisdom :: did many things that he shouldn’t have done while he was manhunthing for me. One of them was to get me the message that I should be less mean about people’s personal appearance … that it was just too rude {I hadn’t even mentioned him yet!}. Oh really? Thanks for the tip … I’ll keep that in mind.
3. It’s really more me quoting Cartman quoting Full Metal Jacket in the episode where he gets kicked by the bull and becomes Vietnamese prostitute Ming-Lee …
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/150839 Suckey Suckey Fiv’ Dolla’
4. I can’t write about everyone … but everyone is free to worry about it. And if you do get picked … it will be much much worse than you are imagining.
You almost wonder if it’s worth the risk of continuing to exploit people … which isn’t really that fun anyway. Guilt and shame are heavy emotions to repress … as is fear. It takes a massive toll. Just get a fucking job and then at least you can relax on the weekend … comfortable in your own skin.
5. Outside of the highly specific context here … I agree that most of the things I say are totally inappropriate. It’s only funny because it’s directed at predators and marketing fictions.
@FannySpanker ::
I think you mostly agree with my main points. You just like to agitate. That’s fine … I’m sure other people will continue to take you up on it … but I find it boring.
Defending kid pictures inside hype marketing schemes is pretty pathetic … even for an agitator. It’s simple and unambiguous exploitation of children. It’s a purposeful sales tactic … and it’s disgusting … no room for discussion. The Ed Dale feed mentioned in this post is especially outrageous in that regard {although he does take nice pictures and those are super cute kids}.
http://saltydroid.info/aaron-pansy-parkinson-web-134/ Not the first :: or last :: time I’m going to mention it.
@Not an IMer {and others} ::
There is no sense hoping for the comments to be one thing or another. They are open to the world … and so are full of chaos. The idea that “group think” or “mob mentality” could develop here is way off base. REPRESSION of dissent is required for those situations … that doesn’t count getting voted into a lighter font … or being called an idiot :: asshole :: or sympathizer. That’s just vibrant :: sometimes unpleasant :: free discussion.
Not one of my comments has ever been left up on a d-bags blog. No matter what I say … or how I say it … I’m not allowed to speak. On the contrary :: no comment has ever been removed from this blog … for any reason.
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 7:15 am
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@SD, we are going to have to agree to disagree on the picture thing. The social media movement has evolved to enable others to see behind the curtain of businesses and people. Transparency is driven by customer demand as much as marketing.
Social media has destroyed the old mullet cut of one part is business one part is social, and it’s all something new and the boundaries are definitely blurred. At this stage the niceties/etiquette is still being decided.
If I want to put my kids pictures in an image repository or put them on my personal blog doesn’t mean there’s an ulterior motive just because they sit next to screen caps of blog statistics or sales pictures.
I stand by my statement that not everyone is a terrorist, and making out that everyone is makes the world a very sad place.
LOSER!! ::   -11
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_cartman_ Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 10:40 am
@Fanny Spanker,
“The social media movement has evolved to enable others to see behind the curtain of businesses and people. Transparency is driven by customer demand as much as marketing.”
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Hmmmm…..why did nobody present me with that memo?…heads will roll….
Social media movement (sounds like shit to me)? Customer demand Dorothy?…bullshit…to you, and your little dog too!
Seriously though; Give me a fucking break. I don’t give a fuck who my car salesman is, or who his fucking children are (although they appear to care about me..as they should…I will be bringing out a vid soon…how to transform your 1987 yugo to a BMW for “universal vibratory enhancement”tm). I don’t give a shit about the person who sold us our appliances or electronics. The person who cuts my hair could be a poo flinging monkey on the weekends, for all I care. I don’t give a rats ass (other then at a BYORAB -- bring your own rat’s ass barbecue….Cambodian delicacy) about the guy who sold us our exercise equipment. There is actually not one fucking product in our home (or one service that we use), that we know (or care to know) even one fucking thing about the person that sold or provided it to us….and other then maybe verifying a qualification or two, we don’t care (we being my Wife and our two cats -- Arthur Anderson and Jeffrey Skilling). eg: I don’t give a flying fuck (except at the annual trapeze for swingers event) if my Doctor has a family…butt I do expect him to have attended medical school…or at least read an e-book on the subject.
“Internet marketers” have deluded themselves into believing their own shit (the only time you see children are in cereal commercials (just ask mikey), and cheesy used car advertisements…and sometimes exploited by the likes of Kate Gosselin (of Jon and Kate just fucking aggravate)). It kind of makes me wonder (what products or services you sell), that people need/want/care, to know about your personal life.
The social media movement? Hello! Wake up and smell the reality. Social media is used by 10′s if not 100′s of millions of people as…..oh…..I don’t know…to be fucking social and shit, and keep in touch with friends and family and shit, and right now it just happens to be the “trendy” thing to do, and shit….
A handful use it to attempt to sell a lame product (like how to make $50K a month selling fruity weapons…fuck off..it’s a good product you fucking nay-sayers, just ask Deiss), or service (celebrity life Rakey numerology), that would be best left in the kitty sand, where it originated from….It’s just that this “handful” of people(comparatively speaking), tend to look for validation…and thus coming to the erroneous conclusion (con being the operative word), that is is becoming a movement (my ass is becoming a movement….brb…okay back)….”internet marketers” use a myopic approach to validate what they are attempting to prove, in order to validate what they are attempting to sell…they’ll bypass the 10′s of 1000′s of people to find the one that makes their point….and all of a sudden this 1 in X0000 becomes a “movement” to these newly emerging paradigms (and a quarter beats a paradigms…so hows that for worthless….I am so happy and grateful that I am channeling the universal spirit of some funny comedian through the universal mine….pat self on back….I am a fucking RockStar!…pat self on back…aggrandize…aggrandize).
That said….I would like to take this time to introduce you to a couple people in my life
-This is Bob (pointing to bob)! Bob is a pygmy, born and bread in his native Toronto, Cambodia. Bob has three children…and a wife named nIkki…Bob is a certified Ass Aura cleaner…a dirty ass aura can lower your vibrations, and cause a lot of shit in your life.
-This is Tania (pointing to tania)! Tania is my celebrity numerologist….Tania is certified in celebrity numerology, and one of only three people to have gotten accreditation from “The fifth dimension”…
cue the video….
PS -- for those who are not aware…you may look at my haphazard post and say; “Fuck _cartman_, could you use punctuation a little more proper#”…..listen….I lost my grammar when I was a young lad…and it hurts me when I have to channel things like that….you guys made me cry again….comfort me oh universal mine….comfort me…
WINNER!! ::   +30
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Karin Hiebert Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
@_cartman_,
well if that wasn’t just the best fucking comment I have ever read… and YOU have ever wrote…
and you my friend, have written some mighty fine comments!
DISCLAIMER: not assuming, insinuating or suggesting that _cartman_ and I are friends or anything like that… just saying…
socializing-you know?
and before the “others” get all…
… thumbs down Karin,
and –
“leave the blog now -cause-you-only-want-attention by stroking _cartman_ ”
…you are absolutely right
now,
go fuck yourselves- and stop raping your kids.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   +5
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Not Again! Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
[Karen Hiebert IGNORE SHIELD on. For damn good reasons. Pass it on.]
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Liar Crusher Reply:
June 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 pm
@Not Again!,
You rock.
I couldn’t be more proud of you, Not Again!!
Keep it up!!!
Liar Crusher
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 30th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
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@_cartman_, maybe the word movement wasn’t the right one.. though I can’t think of another. Can you?
The Facebook figures alone show that something has changed in the last 5 years http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics from what things used to be.
Semantics regarding the word “movement” aside, things are changing and whether anyone likes it or not. My kids (real people not used for marketing purposes) are completely different consumers to what I am.
Don’t want to believe me? This kind of stuff is being taught in universties and stuff.
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/courses/23216.jsp
and used by universities to market as well
http://www.penn-olson.com/2010/01/28/video-yale-university-has-an-awesome-recruitment-ad/
(Harvard and Yale are pretty big in the USA aren’t they?)
Just because YOU are old-fashioned and don’t like the thought of knowing who sells you things (there again beck in the day your grocer,barber, and other purveyors of goods, were as well known to you as your best buddy because people actually talked to them) doesn’t mean this is the way the world is going. Back to the future and all of that.
LOSER!! ::   -17
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Oh, Puh-lease Reply:
May 30th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
@Fanny Spanker, Your “evidence,” referred to so adroitly as “This kind of stuff,” indicates that you should probably quit sitting on water hoses for fun, because it obscures your focus.
When are you starting your own blog, by the way? You have so many, many vastly different opinions about how this blog should be run, it just seems a waste of your self-proclaimed, irrefutable brilliance to simply dump your superior wisdom here, amongst all of us lesser thinkers.
Let us know when you have that blog up and are open for business. We’ll all bring you a cake.
WINNER!! ::   +16
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_cartman_ Reply:
May 30th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
@Fanny Spanker,
hold up…You said….
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“…Transparency is driven by customer demand…”
&…
“…destroyed the old mullet cut of one part is business one part is social”
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Again, other then making the above statements, you haven’t shown even one example of “transparency” or “customer demand”.
You have still failed to show where real businesses are being “more transparent”, or where people are demanding MORE TRANSPARENCY (and sharing the personal life of their people).
As to what Harvard teaches, I don’t know what you read….butt (from your link)…
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“Many uses are personal in nature, but businesses and non-profits are using them for both internal and external communications ”
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How exactly that proves what you stated, is beyond me. Many uses are personal, and businesses are using it as an adjunct to their primary communications channel (wow really…it wasn’t what was being debated…butt… whatever)….this doesn’t imply that businesses are being more transparent, or that people are demanding transparency.
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“Just because YOU are old-fashioned and don’t like the thought of knowing who sells you things ”
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Typical fucking strawman…
You made a statement “people are DEMANDING transparency” (without any proof), and are now presenting your statement as your proof….and since I am not demanding transparency… ipso calypso…I’m old fashioned…okay then…it appears you put me in my place (guess where)….
Not sure what you are claiming by showing the facebook stats link, but it doesn’t show anything about what we are discussing…except my point about people being social and shit…I said social and shit…yes you did _cartman_…you fucking rockstar…pat self on back…
As to the Yale “recruitment AD”….they don’t have trouble recruiting people…to the contrary….more then 90% of the people who want to apply to Yale are not accepted….oh right…someone MISREPRESENTED the video as a “recruitment AD”…oh fuck me…it’s an “internet marketing” “company” (big fucking surprise)…Yale considers the ad an admissions video (they give information in a fun and informative way to answer questions to those accepted)…..
http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2010/04/05/admissions-game-getting-riskier/
http://www.yaledailynews.com/media/2010/04/10/admissions-graph/
WINNER!! ::   +18
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Liar Crusher Reply:
June 23rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
@SD,
Props to you continuing being Exactly as you are! Never change. I am completely peaceful knowing that you won’t…and only someone as special as Frank Kern could change you, if it *were* possible ;P (insert something fucking irreverent and absurd here – like, oh I don’t know, something fucking facetious and sarcasmical)
Since when in this country did speaking your mind get to be labelled fucking irreverent? Sounds like some d-bags came up with that shit!
While SD ever changing is something that I can sleep peacefully at night knowing will never happen, what does make me want to hurl is people that call free speech over calling out scumbags “irreverent.”
Where in our Fucking Constitution does it says we should all be drippy, wimpy, weak and polite, especially to our own detriment?
God forbid people call scumbags out on the mat and speak their mind!!
{***The room fills with gasps***}
I think that is what our “document drafters” had in mind…and I think they’d love Salty’s site
WAIT…don’t tell me…I want to go on giving myself a hand-job thinking that the Constitution more-or-less “had our backs” as individuals.
My bad (not the first time! ;)
BTW, @FannySpanker is a loser and a waste of time. Erect another Ignore Shield.
Salty rocks (pardon the pun(s)). Clearly there are people that don’t “get it” and those people can kiss my ass…and hit the dusty trail out of here…where they will be completely unmissed.
Liar Crusher
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# 29 May 2010 at 2:45 am

Name Not Important said:
Salty brings up a few points that I’d like to expand upon here. (Not that he needs me to expand anything. He’s pretty damned clear.)
I don’t comment often here, because I’m of the belief that unless I think can actually lend some value to the conversation, I keep my mouth shut and my ears open. But this comment thread has left some questions wide open which I feel need to be answered.
This blog, in just under two years, has managed to achieve what the FTC and law enforcement was previously unable to achieve, and I find this incredible. With Salty’s tongue in cheek ranting approach, he has actually managed to scare many of the Syndicate members (a term I learned from Salty) into an “early retirement” of their own accord. Not an easy task, considering that even being arrested and charged with criminal offences didn’t stop them in the past.
Essentially, he broke the mold here, by carefully applying a strategy of “cut just enough to make a wound, wait until it starts to heal, then keep picking at the scab until the recipient gives up and walks away for good”.
My guess is that those who previously were dreaming of following in the “Be Rich Like Me” gurus’ footsteps are second guessing that idea. It is impossible for us to know how many scammer wanna-be’s this blog has prevented. But I think it numbers in the low hundreds, at least.
So, I am pretty damned impressed by Salty’s accomplishment. I will never have anything negative to say about what Salty says in his posts. It may be shocking. It may be scathing. It may make many of us uncomfortable. But it WORKS.
I don’t always like everything he says. Fat jokes bug me. Jokes based on someone’s looks, color, sexual orientation, gender, all of it bugs me. But I can see why he does it. It WORKS.
Having said that, I’ve noticed a trend in the comments that could potentially dilute the effectiveness of Salty’s posts, and that has me a bit worried if our goal is to make the scammers take this blog seriously and think twice about what they are doing.
The trend is, as some have mentioned, that whenever someone brings up a question or issue that seems to even marginally disagree with the overall “kill them all, kill them now” viewpoints, they are immediately slammed and name calling ensues.
Instead of responding to these issues with a bit of tact and diplomacy, which is easier to listen to, people immediately hit the little thumbs down icon and throw out insults.
I find this odd, especially if the goal of this blog is to sway the undecided voter. By “undecided voter”, I mean “people who until now thought that Joe Blow Guru was a smart business person who could be trusted”.
Scaring the Undecided by calling them D-Bags just because they had a question or concern, isn’t usually the best approach to winning over the hearts and minds of the populace. So, it confounds me that this would be used as a means of convincing them that this blog, and all its supporters, should be given consideration.
Salty said “There is no sense hoping for the comments to be one thing or another. They are open to the world … and so are full of chaos.”
He is absolutely right. The internet allows anyone to have a voice, and it is completely out of control, as it should be.
But it would be nice if the supporters of this blog, and its mission, would be willing to set aside childishness and name calling in the interest of the greater good, which is to show the D-Bags of the world that this blog is strongly supported by intelligent people, people who are confident enough in our beliefs that we do not need to resort to throwing barbs at one another in order to make a valid point.
Each of us will glean from this website what is most important to us. I personally would like to see people come here first before making a buying decision, learn what’s really happening behind the scenes, and keep their money in their wallets where it belongs.
Unfortunately, there are some who come here, read Salty’s posts, start to see the truth, and then immediately run back into the arms of the D-Bags because they see comments that convince them that we, Salty’s supporters, are silly, childish, and bullying. In other words, they dismiss what Salty says because of his supporters.
Please do carry on with what you’re doing. I’m not here to tell anyone what to do, or how to use this site.
I’m just asking that you think about the mission of the site, and ask yourself if attacking everyone with a concern is the best way to support the mission.
Just me wishful thinking.
WINNER!! ::   +16
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stoic Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 7:59 am
@Name Not Important,
Your post is sane and sober but context is important. The joy of Mr Salty’s blog is the rude irreverence, why try making this disparate bunch of anarchic commenters into a ‘movement’ or a ‘mission’ when it is so effective as rude irreverence?
Mr Salty might have a mission but he doesn’t seem to be forming a movement– just as well in this internet-age, big-tent revivals are so passe.
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Name Not Important Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 10:15 am
@stoic, I agree with you. Salty’s methods are highly effective, which is why I wholeheartedly agree with him.
My commentary was more about staying focused on attacking the D-Bags, rather than attacking the D-Bag’s victims who come here with innocent Bambi eyes.
I’m not talking about attacks on those who, despite all evidence, still cling desperately to the belief that their favorite guru is brilliant and worthy of their worship. I’m referring to those who come here and are afraid to post comments because they fear retaliation for questioning anything.
But then again, maybe it is a combination of Salty’s attacks on the D-Bags plus the consistent attacks on the victims in the comments that is so effective.
But I also wholeheartedly support Salty’s policy of allowing all comments, regardless of merit. From everything I’ve read, the cult leaders certainly don’t allow such dissent or debate. They squash anything that might disagree with them.
So, although I won’t ever be the type to throw out insults at strangers who disagree with me, I fully support others right to do so.
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Corsair Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 11:40 am
@Name Not Important, You said, “My commentary was more about staying focused on attacking the D-Bags, rather than attacking the D-Bag’s victims who come here with innocent Bambi eyes.”
Attacking the D-Bags’ victims?
Where are there VICTIMS with innocent Bambi eyes being rampantly attacked left and right here?
If any commenters are in fact victims, they wouldn’t be aggressively DEFENDING the D-Bags or cutting them slack. I’ll say that again: they just wouldn’t. There most certainly ARE victims who comment here, and they are consistently quick to say so, lamenting their bad experiences. Then, a majority of the time, there are follow up comments by others that curse the perpetrator who victimized them and offer sympathy. Look around and see.
Furthermore, a large percentage of the “apologists” or drop-in critics of Salty’s “style” ARE absolutely related or connected to D-Bags in some way, and they have an agenda. Sometimes it is patently obvious, and sometimes they drop little clues. (And sometimes, there are behind the scenes exchanges that take place that “out” them.)
Because of that, it should not be a given that every dissenter who comes here deserves equal stage time, particularly when they are simply and relentlessly defending D-Bags.
Salty has repeatedly explained his thinking and methodology, and as you’ve said, it absolutely works.
Some people think McDonald’s would be “better” if it served healthy food, had a fancier, traditional restaurant interior, and got rid of those ugly arches and hideous yellow color scheme. Then it wouldn’t be McDonald’s, and it would fail.
Here’s the way to look at this blog: expect anything, at any time. It’s been that way since day one.
This blog is what it is, and it has without any doubt made a noticeable dent in the scamming “community.”
Stoic’s phrasing is perfect: “rude irreverence.”
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Anthony Mahavick Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
@Name Not Important,
While we saw a bunch of IM gurus announce their retirements late in 2009, six months later they’re all back.
Frank Kern is back.
Howie Schwartz is back.
Jeff Walker is back.
etc.
The only one I know of who’s still gone is Perry Belcher. And that’s because his parole officer shut him down, not because he’s afraid of SD.
The “retirement” claims were just the latest artificial scarcity claim. One of the guys figured out that it worked, and the rest all followed along.
While SD is doing valuable work, it’s far too early to celebrate substantial broad-scale success.
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# 29 May 2010 at 6:01 am

Bullshitt said:
@Name Not Important you’re full of shit. You think that curse words and bitch fights on a blog’s comment section is going to make a person say “Oh! This guy has a consistent track record of scamming people, and he charged me $5000000000000000 for an ebook promising the moon and stars, but I guess he’s legitimate after all because I don’t like how the people communicate on this blog”
Get fucking real. The only people who want you to believe such utter shite are the dbags themselves posing as “innocent” people.
Using this shit as an excuse to run back to scam-town is a CLASSIC psychopathic dbag move. It’s called deceptive manipulation.
You don’t have to be an Internet marketer to be part of the psychopath 700 club, you can also be a nobody loser who doesn’t care about others and are sitting there justifying why you’re going to venture and continue scamming.
The allure of making a ton of money online by doing practically NOTHING of use to anyone but yourself is very seductive. But before you justify that in your mind , be aware that people here are already 3 steps ahead of your silly manipulation tactics. STEP UP YOUR GAME BITCHES
Hare’s PCL-R 20-item checklist is based on Cleckley’s 16-item checklist, and the following is a discussion of the concepts in the PCL-R.
But first of all, here is Cleckley’s original list of symptoms of a psychopath:
1. Considerable superficial charm and average or above average intelligence.
2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
3. Absence of anxiety or other “neurotic” symptoms considerable poise, calmness, and verbal facility.
4. Unreliability, disregard for obligations no sense of responsibility, in matters of little and great import.
5.Untruthfulness and insincerity
7. Antisocial behavior which is inadequately motivated and poorly planned, seeming to stem from an inexplicable impulsiveness.
7.Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
8.Poor judgment and failure to learn from experience
9. Pathological egocentricity. Total self-centeredness incapacity for real love and attachment.
10. General poverty ot deep and lasting emotions.
11. Lack of any true insight, inability to see oneself as others do.
12. Ingratitude for any special considerations, kindness, and trust.
13. Fantastic and objectionable behavior, after drinking and sometimes even when not drinking–vulgarity, rudeness, quick mood shifts, pranks.
14. No history of genuine suicide attempts.
15. An impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated seX life.
16. Failure to have a life plan and to live in any ordered way, unless it be one promoting self-defeat.
“…More often than not, the typical psychopath will seem particularly agreeable and make a distinctly positive impression when he is first encountered. Alert and friendly in his attitude, he is easy to talk with and seems to have a good many genuine interests. There is nothing at all odd or queer about him, and in every respect he tends to embody the concept of a well-adjusted, happy person. Nor does he, on the other hand, seem to be artificially exerting himself like one who is covering up or who wants to sell you a bill of goods. He would seldom be confused with the professional backslapper or someone who is trying to ingratiate himself for a concealed purpose. Signs of affectation or excessive affability are not characteristic. He looks like the real thing.
“Very often indications of good sense and sound reasoning will emerge, and one is likely to feel soon after meeting him that this normal and pleasant person is also one with -high abilities. Psychometric tests also very frequently show him of superior intelligence. More than the average person, he is likely to seem free from social or emotional impediments, from the minor distortions, peculiarities, and awkwardnesses so common even among the successful. Such superficial characteristics are not universal in this group but they are very common…”
“…It must be granted of course that the psychopath has some affect. Affect is, perhaps, a component in the sum of life reactions even in the unicellular protoplasmic entity. Certainly in all mammals it is obvious. The relatively petty states of pleasure, vexation, and animosity experienced by the psychopath have been mentioned. The opinion here maintained is that he fails to know all those more serious and deeply moving affective states which make up the tragedy and triumph of ordinary life, of life at the level of important human experience…”
Hare’s Checklist
1. GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM — the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example. >
2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — a grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.
3. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM — an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have a low self-discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.
4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING — can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.
5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims.
6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT — a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims.
7. SHALLOW AFFECT — emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.
8. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY — a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.
9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE — an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.
10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.
11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR — a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.
12. EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS — a variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.
13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS — an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.
14. IMPULSIVITY — the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.
15. IRRESPONSIBILITY — repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.
16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS — a failure to accept responsibility for one’s actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.
17. MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS — a lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.
18. JUVENILE DELINQUENCY — behavior problems between the ages of 13-18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.
19. REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE — a revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.
20. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY — a diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.
“Despite being very good at manipulating others for their own ends and appearing to be superficially charming, a psychopath often runs into trouble with the law or some authority because of their impulsiveness and because they don’t spend little if any time weighing up the pros and cons of the possible consequences of any action they may undertake. It appears that the psychopath has to do something bad or wrong to keep some demon inside them at bay. ” <—–Describes these dbags like Perry Belcher very acccurately.
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Hare, R. (1991) The Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised. Toronto: Multi-Health Systems.
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Robins, L. (1978) Aetiological implications in studies of childhood histories relating to antisocial personality. In R. Hare & D. Schalling (eds) Psychopathic Behavior. Chichester: Wiley.
Rogers, R., R. Salekin, K. Sewell & K. Cruise (2000) Prototypical analysis of antisocial personality disorder. Criminal Justice and Behavior 27(2) 234-55.
Sher, K. & Trull, T. (1994) Personality and disinhibitory psychopathology: Alcoholism and antisocial personality disorder. Journal of Abnormal Psychology 103:92-102.
Toch, H. & K. Adams (1994) The Disturbed Violent Offender. Washington: APA.
Muchly debated. What do you think?   -3
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Name Not Important Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 11:08 am
@Bullshitt, First, you and I agree on one major issue: D-Bags are undiagnosed psychopaths.
But where we disagree is on one point:
I did not mean to imply that someone who knows they got scammed would come here and see some biting comments and then run back to the scammer.
Nor was I suggesting we be nice and sweet with the D-Bags who come here trolling for a fight.
What I was referring to is that some people who are still researching someone they are considering buying from, might dismiss facts because they mistakenly believe that it must not be true if it comes from here.
In other words, they could potentially ignore sound advice from people who know what’s really happening behind the scenes, because they mistakenly think that we’re a bunch of “haters” who make stuff up and lie to make a comedic point.
Of course, I could be completely wrong about it, and am perfectly willing to retract my concerns and reel in my worry.
It’s entirely possible that most are willing to look past it and focus on facts.
Again, I’m not suggesting that anyone should change the way they comment on Salty’s blog. It is not my place to change how anyone else does anything.
Just adding in my perspective, as someone who reads every comment, every post, every day, and I love it here.
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Uncle Roy Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
@Name Not Important, I believe Bullshitt’s observation still holds in the example you just gave. Even in the absence of civility and the presence of profanity, there will still be sufficient red flags raised to give pause even to the most squeamish who might be doing what you called, “research.” There is simply too much content and activity here for people to just dismiss it entirely without consideration.
However, this fixation you and a handful of others reference misses the far greater significance of this blog: its power as a disruptive force, even outside the pages of the blog itself. It stimulates talking elsewhere, and rocks other boats.
That disruptive force would far less effective without its distinctive and remarkable bite.
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Bullshitt Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Version 1: @Name Not Important, let’s get this straight YOU and I do not AGREE where it counts. Your superficial attempts at trying to find a common ground are weak and laughable. You reek of fishy fishy. *throws back your bait* Regroup and try again Sandy. :)
*throws some foam titties your way*
Version 2: @Name Not Important, alright I’ll bite. You’re doing your research and you’re confused. Who’s right , who’s wrong? Are they all bad dbags here? All this cursing and ridiculing of looks, gender, sexuality is discrediting the facts. Let’s tone it down shall we and be real nice to the dbags.
You’re STILL full of shit, because only people who are looking for any excuse to justify getting on the gravy train of scamming people would think like that.
Either way, you’re still being called out on your Bullshit. Now go back to eating frozen mayonnaise and asking your aunt Getrude to do your hair, Sandy.
LOSER!! ::   -4
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Reverend T. R. Uth Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Amen.
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
May 30th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
@Name Not Important, it’s pretty much futile being reasonable around here. It’s a shame because there are really a great deal of nasty people who rip off their customers.
Oh well. I look forward seeing proof that SD and the rabid rabble has brought down a single scammer.
LOSER!! ::   -15
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Oh, Puh-lease Reply:
May 30th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
@Fanny Spanker, Why don’t you start your OWN blog and bring down those scammers yourself? After all, you think you have all the answers and nobody can hold a candle to you.
YOU aren’t willing to do shit, but you sure like to tell OTHER people what to do.
WINNER!! ::   +11
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Fanny Spanker Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 5:41 am
@Oh, Puh-lease, Actually I have an old blog that does just that – but I don’t maintain it any more…and a scorecard of one scamming IMer down because I exposed them for what they were doing.
I left the details once on the Wailing Wall. People even commented *nods* Actually i leave a lot of comments on the wailing wall …pretty sure SD knows that from IP addresses and whatnot
Don’t feel bad, I have been waiting for someone to assume I haven’t done anything or got any experience in the area.
:)
My work here is done
Au revoir mon petites
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Internet Psychologist Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR — a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.
Sexual confusion is a classic and very common symptom these psychopaths share.
Reminds me of James Arthur Ray and his “feminine principle” gibberish about transforming the masculine principle into the feminine principle. James Ray seems to have sexual confusion about himself.
I guess I don’t blame him, with his gynecomastia and widening hips from the aromatization of the steroids he’s pumped into his body. Steroids tend to make the hairline recede too, and I’m wondering if James Ray knows that his toupee is crooked on some of his videos.
I’ve also received some email about James Ray’s face having folds and lines, especially near his eyes and the corners of his mouth. Jowls are sagging and James Ray is really looking old these days. His body is not toned and tight, it’s like an old man who is swollen from being water logged.
Every time I see James Ray’s videos he comes across as aching for a masculine principle to penetrate his feminine principle through the electro. Perhaps we could get Dan Kennedy to MAGNETICALLY do it.
There’s nothing wrong with being gay or transgender, just be proud of who you are and come on out with it, right Trey?
We want all the GLBT, overweight, and unemployed individuals to know that we are not bashing YOU, we are just making observations on cons who have ruined many families’ lives and using that as fodder for …amusement.
Drag queens and fatties are like everyone else, there are good ones and there are shit ones. Don’t get upset when we point it out to your sorry ass
Sandy Jenkins, once you retire from the Internet, you could definitely get a job with Maria Andros down on Market Street. You two could make personal house calls at the 5-star suites at San Quentin. Charlie Manson would be delighted!
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stoic Reply:
May 31st, 2010 at 1:33 am
Great references from @Bullshitt on psychopathic behaviour.
There are a couple of informative documentaries on youtube that cover the current thinking on psychopathic individuals. I posted details on the James Arthur Ray thread on Rick Ross:
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,77450,page=108
and add them here for anyone interested in how these very manipulative individuals operate and deceive:
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# 29 May 2010 at 8:04 am

Bobby Ray said:
All this talk of being kind to your friendly neighborhood scammer has gotten kind of boring. Kissing scammer ass just doesn’t grab me for some reason.
Let’s get back to talking about Sandy.
Here’s some trivia you might not know:
He is so fat, when he steps on the scale it says, “To be continued.”
He is so fat that he has to wake up in sections.
He has so many double chins he looks like he is staring at you over a pile of pancakes.
He is so fat people jog around him for exercise.
He is so fat his cereal bowl comes with a lifeguard.
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Sandy So Fat Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
@Bobby Ray,
Sandy Jenkins is so fat he/she/it has to iron its clothes in the drive way
Sandy Jenkins is so fat he/she/it has stretch marks in his clothes
Sandy Jenkins is so fat he/she/it eats frozen mayonnaise for desert
Sandy Jenkins is so fat he/she/it carries a mini fry-daddy in her man-purse
Sandy Jenkins is so fat that pictures are STILL printing from last YEAR
Sandy Jenkins is so fat he/she/it got arrested at the airport for 10 pounds of crack
Sandy Jenkins is so fat he/she/it has more Chins than a Hong Kong phone directory
Sandy Jenkins is so fat he/she/it we have to grease the door frame with crisco and hold a twinkie on the other side to get his fat ass through the door
Andy Jenkins you’re an ugly, fat , sexually confused piece of shit. Who the fuck did your hair princess? You need to get your money back honeygirl.
Feel sorry for your father, he must feel ashamed to have a freak as a son like you. An ugly, FAT, mayonnaise eating, FREAK who cons people.
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# 29 May 2010 at 12:22 pm

Hog Farmer said:
In a galaxy ruled by swine people, far, far away, and five or more chins ago, Gigantasaurus Sandy Jenkins unveiled his new strip (steak) tease act, “Flab Flappers Unleashed.” If that doesn’t terrify you, BEHOLD:
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The Revelation of Sandy Jenkins Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Sandy Jenkins ARE YOU FAT OR WHAT!?!?! TELL US NOW!! We dedicate this song to you
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The Revelation of Sandy Jenkins Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
@Hog Farmer, Is this the “butch” Andy Jenkins pre Gertrude hair????
wow now I’m REALLY beginning to think Sandy Jenkins is a real drag queen. He is just too much into the drag queen bits to fake it. He really seems to enjoy doing it.
Sandy why are you still using a Flo-bee to cut your own hair? You know this is 2010 right?
Andy Jenkins you need work honey, facial surgery, not for feminization, it’s already feminine enough, but we need to take care of those crows feet, sagging jowls, and those frown lines on the corners of your mouth. We also need to lose that hair, you look like you’ve just gotten out of jail and not aware about up-to-date hair styles.
Oh Sandy baby we have so much work to do on you. But if you’re going for Miss Prison USA then keep up the good work ;)
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Hog Farmer Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
@The Revelation of Sandy Jenkins, Yes, Sandy should have read the instructions before using the Flo-bee to cut what is left of his “hair.” Or maybe he just needs a better vacuum cleaner to attach it to. Maybe it would suck less if he had better suck.
Do you think he sticks a bookmark in his chins so he can find his mouth? Maybe not, it’s always moving, and all that constant incoming food probably helps him keep track of where his mouth is, even when the radar loses signal.
He’s got to feel right at home when he visits Sea World, and mighty happy every time the trainers toss him another fish.
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Ham on wheat with extra MAYO Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
@Hog Farmer, ROTFLAO! Andy Jenkins’ grocery bill is larger than the national debt.
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mikefilsaimeinder Reply:
May 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
@Hog Farmer, talk about the irnoy andy jenkins watchies brads head blow up and then blows a kiss at the camera. He thinks he is SO cute doesn’t he.
This is the truth. Brad Fallon is a two bit husteler who can talk fast and jive talk and make people believe in him but cannot deliver the goods.
But if it wasn’t for Brad Fallon there would be no Sandy.
That’s the truth. But Sandy will never admit that now he wnats you to hink what is good of the stomper is what he did and what is bad is brad.
A lot of these syndicate boys they will do anything for money. They will rip off their own mother or betray their own partner. They will rip off the public. They will scam and scheme.
And they make money for doing so.
But there are prices they pay. One price is the knowledge they hide but cannot hide from themselves of what they have done. The second price is putting themselves out in the public for us to see what they do and for everyone to see them for what they are the complete jokes they are the complete bullshit that they are and we can laugh at them and look at how small they are. That is the price they pay. Everyone seeing them for what they are and they cannot hide that. The conman wants money and will do anything for it but wants respect to which is stupid but they live in arrested development. That is why their path takes them to perosnal ruin.
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Kjv79 Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Is Andy wearing Spanx in that video?
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Whassup Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 1:12 pm
@Kjv79, Could be, but underneath all that is probably also a chain link corset.
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# 29 May 2010 at 1:54 pm

Hog Wild said:
Special thanks to Mama Jenkins for sharing this adorable home movie of Andy dancing for food when he was just 2 years old:
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# 29 May 2010 at 6:32 pm

Hog Wild said:
Andy’s personal trainer, RAISING THE BAR:
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Andy Jenkins Fatso Reply:
May 30th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
@Hog Wild, lol you are wild. Aww how cute Andy Jenkins was already a porker. Ya know who I think would make a good couple with Andy ? Perry. They both have barrel bodies and evil jowls. They could have late night rendevouz, flapping bellies on each other, while finger healing each other with twinkies. Sigh, how romantic.
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# 29 May 2010 at 6:37 pm

Up Chuck said:
What was the inspiration for Andy’s hair? Swiffer mops?
And does he carry a spare pork chop in EVERY pocket?
Some advice: stop celebrating every “jog” to the mailbox with cotton candy.
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Andy Jenkins Fatso Reply:
May 31st, 2010 at 6:33 pm
@Up Chuck, lol yea his hair does look like swiffer mop inspired LMAO. It’s the latest style in his trailor park. Andy loves frozen mayonnaise with melted crisco on top. He is hard core and does not eat pork chops, instead he carries whole sticks of butter in his purse for emergencies.
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# 29 May 2010 at 8:29 pm

Pig In A Poker said:
Andy’s blog is subtitled, “Irreverence, Rebellion, and interweb marketing.”
I can’t speak for the other two topics (I’m sure someone here can!) but the only “rebellion” I see is Andy rebelling against “reasonable food portions.”
Andy’s obviously on a seafood diet. When he sees food, he eats it!
I’d sure hate to be the guy with the mandatory back brace that has to haul and throw Andy his food every 1-2 hours. I hope he’s quick, or he’ll get his arm eaten off.
On the plus side, that massive BP oil leak could easily be plugged with Andy’s big toe.
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The Big Rooms. In Vegas! Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 12:08 pm
(rimshot)
(applause)
He’ll be here all week, ladies & gentlemen!
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Applause Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Anti-Andy, Live in Person and performing to sold out audiences! Be sure to try the Andy J. 10-pound meatball sandwich at the concession stand!
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# 31 May 2010 at 7:37 pm

Ed who? said:
Still confused. Who is Ed Dale and is his “coming home” some kind of seminar scam?
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The Big Rooms. In Vegas! Reply:
June 1st, 2010 at 3:13 pm
@Ed who?, Ed Dale is an Aussie IM d-bag who goes way back with Kern & the rest. He & Kern devised the “Underachiever Method” in a coffee shop in Tokyo– the Starbucks in the hotel lobby. He also does the “30 Day Challenge,” almost worth the price (free). He’s round & geeky & more OK with it than Sandy.
I don’t know “Coming Home,” but all these guys sell is hype based on a couple of marketing ideas that won’t fill a condom.
The seminars are all pitchfests. No real content. Walk in the door, you’re sold coaching or a “mast[ermind] group” or some software package for $500/month. Everyone from the clique, whether Kern/Pagan/Dale/SandyStomperHairNet, or any of their wannabe fans, focuses on the back-end.
*cough, cough*
“Back-end” being a marketing term… it’s a lot like walking into a store to buy some flowers for Mother’s Day, and then on the way out you have to navigate a maze with subhuman mutants screaming at you to buy potted trees, chainsaws, mulch, gardening books, horticulture classes, greenhouses, and 47 gallons of bug spray. And then they show up at your house once every few days to sell you a cream that cures the skin cancer you get from gardening, that “THEY” don’t want you to know about!
And you don’t even have a garden.
Now, a marketing back-end ain’t always a sin. It’s just that these guys use them to profit while giving you as little value as possible. For them, you’d ideally buy basic “how to make money online” infoproducts for ever and ever without ever making a dime… because once you do make money online, you realize everything they told you was utter bullshit.
WINNER!! ::   +11
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# 1 June 2010 at 3:22 am

Me so hungry said:
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# 1 June 2010 at 2:47 pm

Andy's so fat said:
Andy Jenkins is so fat when he goes out to get the mail it measures on the Richter scale
Andy Jenkins is so fat when he gets his shoes shined he has to take their word
Andy Jenkins is so fat he’s two sandwhiches away from having to have his own zip code
Andy Jenkins is so fat that when you’re only having seconds he’s having twenty-thirds
Andy Jenkins is so fat he’s never seen his toes
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# 1 June 2010 at 2:57 pm

Andy we know you're watching said:
Sandy we know you’re watching girl and you’re voting down the wonderful posts about your portly figure. Well let’s stop talking about your over developed body and talk about your face.
Why is your face so saggy, Andy? Your chin and throat look like those turkey things hanging off their beaks.
Why is your hair line in the back of your head, Andy? Are you going bald or are you going for the TV evangelist look?
Does Suzie know her son is really a daughter?
Does your wife know about your bisexual rendevouz ?
Do you know about the pictures and taped phone calls?
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# 1 June 2010 at 3:42 pm

Ed who? said:
So Ed Dale is just another douche bag like all the rest? Thanks for the clarification.
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# 2 June 2010 at 4:44 am

Donk said:
He isn’t serious with this new do is he? Oh my god.
What a fucking crack pot. They all idolize their boy Frank don’t they?
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Sour Mash n Tart Picklez Reply:
June 3rd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
@Donk, that is the latest fashion style in the trailer park where Sandy is from. Andy’s seriously considering a career change as an overweight, wrinkled-saggy face country drag queen, doing the truck stop circuit. He’s pretty talented, he can sing and eat while bending over to touch its toes for the truckers.
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# 2 June 2010 at 6:50 pm

Donk said:
It’s so funny that it is sad really. Does he think if he looks like Franky that he can sell more shit or what? He better watch his ass. If JMO thinks somebody is trying to get close to Frank, they are likely to end up with an RV tire track across their back.
There’s an internet lifestyle for ya. Living out of a RV in various parking lots throughout LaJolla.
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Sandy Jenkin's frozen mayonnaise treats Reply:
June 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
@Donk, surely you have been behind the times. Don’t you know fat, sweaty, transvestite look is IN now? Andy Jenkins claims to be hetero and likes to dress in women’s clothes. So he’s a cross-dresser, does that render him incapable of providing goods and services? No, of course not.
But putting a thousand dollar price tag on some crap he scraped together from a few $30 dollar books is definitely not honest. I think Andy would have better luck selling his ass at the truck stops than his products
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# 3 June 2010 at 10:36 pm
» Kim and Sandy :: Episode 2 said:
[...] But these are but the triflings of the mortal coil :: inadequately voiced.  A love this flamingly eternal could never truly be expressed via sarcastic bullet points :: or super sweet comic strips. [...]
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# 4 June 2010 at 6:39 pm

SD (author) said:
Ed’s taking his “company” public :: and comments aren’t set to moderate.
http://www.eddale.co/general/30dc-inc-why-we-are-going-public-30dc#
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Crazy Commenter Reply:
June 7th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
I’ll take that as a hint. Woot!
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Red Snapper Reply:
June 7th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Looks like Ed Dale thinks this blog is mostly “rubbish” according to the comments he made on his bullshit “blog.”
Personally, I think Ed Dale is mostly rubbish. Just another leech cruising for the uninformed.
Everyone should pay “Ed” a visit and tell him what you think:
http://www.eddale.co/general/30dc-inc-why-we-are-going-public-30dc#
Click on the “Why we are going public” post when you get there to leave a comment.
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
@Red Snapper,
Well…you know what they say….
“You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t beat it over the head with a 2×4, unless you have a big ass crane to take away its dead carcass.”
maybe they don’t say it…but they should….it’s catchy..
So the simple (I would run (not walk) if someone refers to themselves as simple) country boy is trading stock, for OPBs (other people’s businesses)???….
If I got things right, the Dale guy is proposing to “buy” businesses in exchange for company stock (most probably worthless..other then goodwill).
The “acquired” companies (with real revenue), are basically eaten away by expenses of managing (and operating) the parent company. Usually related entities held by the principles of the parent company, are paid consulting fees (and other fees/expenses) to manage the daily business activities of the parent company…until the parent company has nothing but liabilities…
Sounds good; Where do I sign up?
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stoic Reply:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:57 am
@_cartman_,
That sounds perilously close to money laundering–or perhaps thats how James Arthur Ray managed to wind up bankrupt despite turning over $10 p.a.?
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stoic Reply:
June 9th, 2010 at 8:58 am
@stoic,
make that $10mill per annum.
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 9th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
@stoic,
Yeah…that’s basically what it is…
It could very well be what Ray did (or is doing), but would require full and unfettered access to all his financials, in order to follow the money, and find out what’s going on.
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SD Reply:
June 8th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Comments closed … what a shocker.
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# 7 June 2010 at 4:28 pm

Ed who? said:
Sounds like he just took a swipe at you Salty. The comment about “you know how far you can take this” or whatever he said is his way of saying “I’ll sue you if you take this further than I want you to”.
And I reckon he’s moderating (Ed, not Salty) otherwise how come he his blog hasn’t been gang banged by now?
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SD Reply:
June 8th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
@Ed who? ::
He’s right … I know exactly how far I can take this. He :: on the other hand :: has no idea how far I can take it.
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Liar Crusher Reply:
June 23rd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
@SD,
LOL…he also has no idea of how far you ‘will’ take this…well, some of them have to learn the hard way, but you are the guy to help teach ‘em ;P
Rock on, SD!
Liar Crusher
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# 8 June 2010 at 6:58 am

Liar Crusher said:
In the spirit of this d-bag, you have gotta see Jenkins in this rolling photo album of Beckta-blow-jobs, The Pictography.
WOMEN don’t look that female!!
Try not to puke. I warn you…it isn’t easy…just don’t have a big drink of something in your mouth while you are perusing these shots…or it may wind up where least expected it would. (Like me, almost wiping out my keyboard…that was when I knew I had to share it with Droid-’ers…)
http://www.craigbeckta.com/cool-photos/
Sorry to ruin your appetite this close to dinnertime…{shudders}
Liar Crusher
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# 23 June 2010 at 5:19 pm
» Mike Filsaime :: AffiliateDotGnome said:
[...] perhaps I’m being too harsh. Maybe it’s not fair to count Andy Jenkins as a man when he’s so clearly undecided.  And I suppose one could argue that gnomes :: even [...]
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# 8 September 2010 at 3:44 am
» Kim and Sandy :: Episode 3 said:
[...] :: Kim and Sandy are breaking up … sad but true.  Another perfect romance dashed upon the jersey shore. [...]
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# 29 September 2010 at 5:09 am
» The Lion :: the Witch and the TrollDrones said:
[...] a huge dick … it’s working great” :: and I proved it up by quoting myself being a huge dick … it wasn’t hard to find a [...]
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# 7 October 2011 at 5:39 am

Nomoobs James said:
Man boobs are really embarrassing! It’s best to get rid of them.
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# 14 December 2011 at 7:48 am
» Kim and Sandy :: Episode 4 The Dead said:
[...] didn’t appreciate my appreciation of his bouffant boyfriend love the first time :: so I did it again as a special gift … in recognition of him sucking so much [...]
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# 20 December 2011 at 9:01 am

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