James Arthur Ray :: Manslaughterer
James Arthur Ray :: aka Death Ray :: arrested in Arizona on three counts of MANSLAUGHTER. Word on the street is that he turned himself in to avoid an embarrassing scene :: but there will still be MUCH embarrassment shit eater :: count on it!!
Manslaughter — Arizona Code 13-1103 :: in relevant part …
A. A person commits manslaughter by:
1. Recklessly causing the death of another person;
Reckless homicide is a step more aggressive than the negligent homicide that was mentioned in the WhiteTrash Papers. I guess the Arizona authorities found Ray’s arguments so persuasive that they ratcheted UP the charges. Ha ha!
Colleen Conaway’s family requests that I pass on their thanks to everyone who has helped shed some light on this disgusting patch of human darkness :: which I do :: and I add my own thanks. To everyone who has been whispering to me :: sending me tips and details :: writing about this on their own web real estate :: adding value in the comments :: calling it out on Twitter and Facebook :: etc. etc. :: THANK YOU! WE are the web :: and we helped!
The fight doesn’t end here :: but make no mistake :: charges filed is a big fat win for justice and truth :: and The Salty Droid could not be happier.
>> bleep {clink} bloop
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:: read one now before you die of stupid.
Click on the photo to enjoy it in it’s full 1000 pxl glory!
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_cartman_ Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Do you want to tell voice of raisin that you mentioned this at 6:10 in “interview with a shampire”, or are you going to let him bask in the glory of thinking he was first?
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SD Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:31 pm
I feel we should ignore it so that it gets bored and goes away.
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_cartman_ Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Sorry..my bad…I had to piss in his corn flakes this one time….back to ignoring him
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Hippo Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Mr. Salty:
I must confess that I do not understand exactly what that picture is.
I realize that jokes are not funny when you have to explain them to clueless listeners.
Would you mind enlightening an old lady poster who can’t quite make out what she is looking at?
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SD Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
@OldLadyPoster ::
I don’t always try hard to make sense … so don’t blow out any muscles trying to understand.
That’s a compilation of three pics already used.
The RayShouldPay twitter background from my first night on the case :: http://twitter.com/rayshouldpay
The Shampire … because it’s fucking hilarious :: http://saltydroid.info/interview-with-the-shampire/
And the overcrowded prison from this post :: http://saltydroid.info/the-perry-papers/ … which was also posted in a hurry after a win for justice {Mike Young tracking down and posting Perry’s conviction and probation paperwork cause he was pissed that they tried to silence him}
Running themes :: just one of the many classy things you can expect from The Salty Droid. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to talk about {and link to} myself!
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Hippo Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
To Mr. Salty:
Thank you for the explanation. The only part I “got” was the Shampire, which I recognized from a recent post, and yes, it is fucking hilarious.
The other two went over my head.
Please, call me Hippo, I insist. I think we’re on a first-name basis.
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k fasail Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Wow – Ray is in super deep shit of his own making. Prosecutors have so much material to work with — especially his White (Toilet) Paper his Q&A in New York Magazine — totally different than the testimony of the participants. His only real defense is a Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which isn’t really a proven defense yet.
I am truly amazed at how he has handled himself since day one.
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_cartman_ Reply:
February 6th, 2010 at 12:08 am
While I don’t have any clue of the American Justice system (being from Cambodia…that’s Toronto Cambodia). Those white papers aren’t sworn affidavits (and they aren’t “statements” per se), so I wouldn’t think they are admissible as evidence.
I think those white trash papers were meant only to sway public opinion, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t enrage people more, and increase political pressure to do something.
If he would have given his clients their money back and made a more reasonable attempt to pay the victims and the family of the victims, apologized, and didn’t act like a fucking victim (which is what pissed people off the most), things may have gone differently.
It’s kind of curious that he wants a Jury trial…people tend base their decisions on emotions (I know…I know…they are “supposed” to base it on the evidence..)…he should know that, considering that is how he sold his “services” in the first place. It’s an idiotic move….let’s hope he sticks with a jury trial.
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Carl Reply:
February 6th, 2010 at 2:38 am
Maybe they are banking on Ray’s charisma working for the defense in the courtroom.
However, having served on a criminal court jury, I later discovered and read about this point: there may be an unspoken initial presumption of guilt (by the jury) from the getgo, just based on the fact that there is a trial in the first place. That makes the defendent somewhat disadvantaged from the beginning, and they have more of a hill to climb because of it.
The question is, will the facts, defense arguments, and Ray’s pearly whites be sufficient to acquit him? It’s all highly speculative and to a large degree unpredictable, unless you’re actually on the jury. A slam dunk is by no means a certainty.
The roles of his employees, and the fact that they were given immunity, will also surely be brought up by the defense in an attempt to weaken the case against him.
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_cartman_ Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Voice of Raisin, you mental fucking inbred….learn to discern temporal reality….let me help you….6:10pm comes before 7:23pm (one hour and 13 minutes before)…
SD (author) said:
Death Ray Arrested for manslaughter!!! Wow! /claps
# 3 February 2010 at 6:10 pm
http://saltydroid.info/interview-with-the-shampire/
WINNER!! ::
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QKE Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Voice of Reason- Do you want a cookie or something. Do we need to put a “Good Job” sticker on your work? WTF. Sounds like you are jealous. Get a life.
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Oh this is fantastic news. What about the evil hypocrite and biggest philanderer of them all … his idiot mate from Australia?
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SD Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Arizona can’t arrest Schirmer :: but maybe he’ll get hit by a bus.
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Abe Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
And a few others might be on that bus.
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Hipster Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:36 pm
We’re all really focused on James Ray here. Trying to connect him with the guy you really want to discuss probably isn’t going to change the topic today. However, there is an entire Schirmer category that’s available for just that purpose. Just click here and comment away:
http://saltydroid.info/category/david-schirmer/
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Abe Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Schirmer was the one who spoke up and supported James Ray initially then backed down when the actions got too hot, didn’t he? We are focusing on JAMES RAY here because its his turn to answer for his actions right now.
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SD Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 12:37 am
Speak of the devil :: and he shall appear …
http://twitter.com/davidschirmer/statuses/8622123994
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Bryan Neuman Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:25 am
That is beyond ridiculous. Hopefully more of the real witnesses feel safe to come forward and speak out now.
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Ziggy Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
How the hell would that idiot David Schirmer know anything factual about James Ray when
a) He was not even at the camp
b) He was in Australia and made a post supporting James Ray
c) He’s just passing on James Ray’s facts (which may or may not be “facts” at all because we all know that “facts” can be stranger than fiction when people are cornered and I reckon Schirmer might know a fair bit about that)
d) Bob Proctor has already successfully accused Schirmer of “misleading and deceptive” conduct … could this be more of the same?
e) He’s been proven to be a person who cannot be trusted
f) He claims to be a wealth expert and his companies keep going belly up for lack of funds and no doubt lack of any direction at all probably
g) He is just a fat whinger
h) He puts himself in a very dicey ethical position standing up for a person who has caused the death of several people. That shows just how much more he cares for James Ray than them.
i) He keeps talking to himself on twitter and facebook all the time quoting feel good messages to try and convince himself that he is not in the shit that he finds himself in.
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Tool Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 6:08 am
I just spent two minutes looking at Schirmer’s lame twitter with all of his canned feel good regurgitated quotes.
That stuff isn’t value.
Why would I want to read some fat chipmunk that looks like he doesn’t even take care of himself, trying to make “great quotes”?
Pass.
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Justice is sweet sweet sweet and to the families affected by this incredible tragedy we are one with you. ANYONE who USES people to this extent and takes money by illgotten means like these guys WILL get justice due time. Their biggest mistake is for LYING for personal gain and then putting the people down who question them and stand for justice and truth. They can claim all the fancy titles they like and pretend to be “friends” to as many people that they think they can USE but when it comes to HOW THEY HAVE AFFECTED OTHER PEOPLES LIVES then they have a lot to answer for and answer they will. Thanks guys for this news you’ve given me a great b’day surprise. Suck it you foolish wannabes. This IS the year to answer for your sins and everyone quietly (and in Saltys case not so quietly) working away behind the scenes to ensure it happens, keep it up. You WILL be rewarded.
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This was Nightline’s lead story tonight. His goose may be cooked based on the interviews that were on the air.
Surprise! Surprise! They stated that Mr. “Harmonic Wealth” Ray may not have enough money to pay his $5 million bond. Shouldn’t 500K be chump change for him?
WINNER!! ::
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SD Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Scammers :: and their mega egos :: have a hard time prudently managing their finances and planning for rainy days. It never rains if you’re God :: however … if you’re just some regular non-god … sometimes it rains like a mother fucker!
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Ziggy Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Yes and sometimes is just keeps on pouring on down.
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Nightline just ran another Dan Harris story about Ray :: he’s heard some reports that indicate Ray will NOT be able to afford to post the $5 million dollar bail.
Horah!
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mirele Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Wonder if Yavapai County would take a heavily-mortgaged California mansion as collateral for bail? Naaaah, probably not.
If it wasn’t supposed to snow this weekend, it might be amusing to drive up to and by the detention center in Camp Verde and stick out my tongue. Or dance around. Or something.
By the way, and speaking of cults, were you aware that Yavapai County’s also in an uproar about the Tao Fellowship aka Dahn Yoga? The outfit put up this Mago Earth Park just outside Cottonwood on the way to Sedona (in fact, it’s the road that takes you past Angel Valley) and it has the most gawdawful ginormous plastic statues and other assorted crap. The largest statue is a 39 foot “Mago Mother Earth”, a yellow-haired, blue-eyed plastic Korean woman in a white robe holding the Earth in her hands. The Planning Commission told Tao Fellowship that they have to pull down the statue. Oh yeah, it’s right across the street from a new Catholic church…the statue stares right at it. There are also other statues. One is of Socrates, the statue was spray-painted gold and he’s holding a scroll written in Korean. Korean? Yep.
http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubsectionID=1190&ArticleID=34692
Also, the tax exempt Tao Fellowship is looking at complaints that it’s using its land for profit purposes…
http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1190&ArticleID=34870
Yavapai County, center of New Age woo for at least 20 years.
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I could watch that video over and over again. Thank you so much SD!
WINNER!! ::
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SD Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 pm
@Bryan ::
Me too! I’ve already watched it many times :: I love that there’s no voiceover :: just a coward walking to his doom.
Shout out to your Mom tonight :: and to your family :: ya’ll are NOT alone.
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Hippo Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 11:33 pm
Bryan–
Shout out to your mom, too, from me.
I have no connection to this case and didn’t know your mother.
But I have such a sense of outrage over this, so I send my support to you and your family.
I’m sure that your mom is proud of you.
WINNER!! ::
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Carlon Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:49 am
I imagined SD would throw some ominous “secret-like” music in the background of that video. Guess it didn’t need it.
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Anderson Cooper just spent about 15 minutes on this. They said that EACH count of Manslaughter carries a possible 4 to 10 year sentence. So Ray could potentially be looking at a maximum of 30 years, is that right?
I know we can’t assume that he’ll be found guilty and that he would get the harshest penalty, but it would be awesome.
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SD Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
@Hippo ::
That sounds about right {not including Colleen … or the MANY interstate financial crimes … of course} …
Here’s the sentencing statute …
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/00702.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
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TSarten Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Looks like it is 2-7 years per count. I am betting that JARhead plea bargains in a couple of months. Especially if he waits it out in a jail to fake financial hardship.
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This is a great day! Good work, Salty Droid!
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Mug shot ::
http://rumorrat.com/2010/02/04/mugshot-of-the-morning-james-ray/
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Hippo Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:10 am
OMG, that is the Best. Mugshot. Ever.
Too bad he doesn’t have Nick Nolte hair to complete the look.
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This is a great day for justice. Cheers to all who helped break the case and keep the “heat” on Mr. Ray.
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A question for those more in-the-know:
Would he end up in a country-club funner-than-most-peoples-houses minimum security prison where a lot of rich people do?
Or would he end up in Harmonic Cornholeville?
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mirele Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 7:11 am
These are Arizona state charges. Arizona prisons are no picnic. We have no “Club Feds” here.
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Hippo Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:13 am
I think those “country club” prisons are more for white-collar embezzlers.
I don’t think that James Ray will end up at one of those places.
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SD Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Agreed! Dead people … it’s the worst thing. If he’s convicted … he’s in for the real deal.
When is NOW the right time to start practicing smuggling cigarettes and meth in your colon?
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That mug shot shows Death Ray’s real face, and maybe just a little worry that this is for real. Sort of “I can’t believe I attracted this into my life”. I can never figure out why, in every mug shot, it looks like the perp has just been given a noogie.
He looks damned good in orange. I hope he stays that way.
Hats off to Detective Diskin and the YCSO for not letting up, taking their time, and building a strong case against JAR. Hope a conviction follows, and that San Diego re-opens Colleen’s case.
WINNER!! ::
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Hippo Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:17 am
To Dave:
It’s interesting how we interpret things differently.
I don’t see exactly what you see. I see disgust and perhaps a sense of “I can’t believe I have to go along with what these losers want me to do. This is SO beneath me.”
WINNER!! ::
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Rafael Marquez Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Hi Dave,
I gotta say I’m more on Hippo’s side of the fence. Death Ray’s smirk just rubs me the wrong way.
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Carl Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I’m with Dave. I think he’s really scared shitless. Everything is crashing down and he never thought it would. It’s easy to project (deserved) contempt onto him, but I don’t really don’t see the posture now. I see a nervous, uncertain man headed for a cage. The dude stands to go to prison for awhile. He’s got to be pretty worried about it. Getting used to fine jail cuisine will be his first personal development challenge.
One more out of control guru down, who’s next? Is it any “secret?”
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SD Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
I vote with @AfghanistanDave and @Carl :: he’s totally fucking losing it. I’ve heard … since pretty much the beginning … that he’s a disaster. He looks it.
Along with the cuisine :: he’s adjusting to a life without “meds.” Don’t worry James :: once you’re out of county :: you’ll be able to get all the “meds” you need :: prisons are like that. Then you can follow your rabbits all the way to hell.
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Hippo Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Have you guys noticed that the men see one thing in James Ray’s mug shot and the women see another?
I would love to be able to say something rocket-science-y about brain chemistry and gender differences.
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I have to confess, this is the greatest thing I have read in the last week. Salty thank you for pushing this story. You and Yorgey have probably done the most for providing continual news about this scum bag. Thank God, this guy has finally been charged. Wow.
WINNER!! ::
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Julie Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Here here! Way to go Salty (and Cosmic Connie, Duff, and Yorgey, among others not coming to mind) for keeping this story alive and being relentless in the quest for justice.
BTW, I agree w/ @Hippo above: That Scary-Larry-mugshot carries an air of “this is a waste of my god-like time; my enlightened soul is so above all you people.”
What a horrible, horrible man. Throw away the key!
WINNER!! ::
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A great day for justice!!! It’s just a shame that someone had to die before these sham artists could be exposed.
Here’s hoping that he gets what he deserves. Kudos to you Droid for hammering on this guy in that special Droid way that you do.
Headache subsiding…bleep..bloop (stop it! Get a hold of yourself, man)
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Thank Christ and Buddha this fucko is getting his due.
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This is better than I expected. Much better. Actually its freaking awesome. Maybe he’s sitting there trying to count up his bail money and wondering if he should really have spent so much on Fabiani.
Here’s a nice take on it from the Rumor Rat, in case anyone hasn’t seen it.
http://rumorrat.com/2010/02/03/james-rays-new-home-not-exactly-a-mulholland-drive-mansion/
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James A Ray and Oprah Winfrey – one down.
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Hippo Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:47 am
To Enoch:
I am wondering if Oprah has had anything to say about this.
After her gushing praise of James Ray, it would be nice if she would make a statement of some kind.
I’m sure she won’t, but it’s nice to dream.
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Enoch_Balls Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Better yet – it’d be better if she did something to assist his surviving family – widow and 3 kids… and this mother fu**er is completely financially upside-down AND has inadequate insurance.
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SD Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
4 real! She NEEDS to say something :: AND open her wallet. Fuck giving cars to strangers for PR … real harm was done … and she was apart of it. It should have happened already.
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Ziggy Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
She’s probably got more brains than that Aussie guy and a whole lot more respect and money too.
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All I can say is YES YES YES!!!!!!! I have been waiting daily to see these headlines..At last he will be stopped..Thank you Salty for your diligent effort in seeing him come to Justice and a big thank you to Cassandra Yorgey and Terry Hall for your all your blogs and articles and thanks to Anticult at Rick Ross forum for all your great blogs on the subject..and everyone else that blogged and helped!!!!!!
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Good work, Salty Droid… see also our coverage of the James Ray arrest at http://www.rumorrat.com
-The Big Cheese
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I just hope JARhead doesn’t find his next calling “reforming” prisoners. He probably already has the book idea, the video and the press plan. “My Journey Into Prison – and how I came out on top” (ok, pun intended)
But seriously, I can see him making this about him, and the media going along with it. I want to make sure to keep this about the victims and the families.
That said, it is a good day. Seeing Ray in orange does make me proud of the sheriff’s office hard work. And I do like the new headshot for his press kit.
WINNER!! ::
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DeathRay looks like the druggie that he is (without makeup). At newsforthesoul.com and you can listen to him describe how he used to inject himself with DMT per Dr. Rick Strassman “Spiritual Molecule” teachings. In this interview he then rambles on for more than an hour about his Ayahuasca visions in which he felt he was going to die,etc. Back then he publicly promoted hallucinogens as part of one’s spiritual quest. I wonder if he stopped talking about drugs in order to reach a more prudent audience. Oh, yeah,Salty, at the bottom of the page at the newsforthesoul site, there’s a picture of a longer-haired, bearded James Ray.
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I don’t have enough faith in the justice system to start celebrating this as a done deal yet, but it’s a welcome start.
It’s a shame that what money is left will be going to his lawyers and not to the victims’ families.
How again can we help them financially? Such info should be placed prominently on everyone’s sites, and not just buried in the comments. While the media circus may be amusing, we mustn’t forget the ones who have been left truly in need.
WINNER!! ::
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RD Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
nice one mojo … think you put up your post a few seconds before mine..
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
I’m with Mojo; the story is far from over, but as she said, it’s a good beginning.
Despite my own participation in the jokes on Twitter, I don’t think justice lies in James Ray getting raped in prison, or in any sort of violence being done to him. (Families and friends of victims may disagree, and I completely understand, but this is my opinion as an “outsider.”)
Nor do I think anyone is well served if Ray is locked up for years and years. He’s just costing the taxpayers money that way. But neither is justice served if what money he has left goes to his lawyers rather than the families of the victims.
If there really were justice, perhaps he would be allowed to continue to earn as good an income as he could muster (no more death lodges and such, though) — but *every* penny would go to his victims’ families, except for the bare minimum he needed to live. And I’m talking about a minimal middle-class existence, not a Beverly Hills swankienda. His finances would be watched like a hawk so he couldn’t squirrel anything away.
Yeah, I know… dream on. I’m guessing that the law doesn’t allow for that kind of “creative sentencing.”
TSarten, whose comment appeared above, probably nailed it regarding what might happen if Ray is convicted and imprisoned. It could be the beginning of a whole new phase in his career. I wouldn’t have a problem with that, as long as the money he earned from his new shtick went to the people who lost their loved ones.
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SD Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
@Mojo :: Totally agree that it’s not a done deal. BUT … it’s a triple manslaughter charge. It ENDS his cult-of-personality scam forever. The trial will expose more truth. And 100′s of stories have appeared today … shining some light in a dark place. All those gains are IN THE BANK … conviction or no conviction.
About ass raping jokes ::
Far be it from me to tell other people what kind of offensive jokes to tell … but you won’t hear any jokes from The Droid on the subject. It’s a serious problem … and it’s an embarrassment to America. Every time I hear one of those jokes I cringe … because the sad :: and hard to face :: truth is that 10%-ish of the prison population are there wrongfully. If you have a hard time believing that … I’d encourage you to watch this movie :: http://witchhuntmovie.com/ :: about a still in power California DA whose horrible corruption and ineptitude put half the poor people in town in jail for pedophilia … and then kept them there after it was obvious that NONE of them were guilty.
Forced sodomy is a macabre sort of punishment which we cannot accept as justice.
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mojo Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:35 am
@RD: Great minds, blah blah blah. :-)
@Salty: We shall see. In my limited experience the mob that is public opinion (AKA “trends”) is not always that predictable. Sometimes said mob seems to have a collective elephantine memory and holds a grudge forever, and the object of their disfavor is forever Dirt no matter how relatively miniscule their crime. Others keep getting put away, only to turn up again and again like the proverbial bad penny, to be embraced and lauded over anew.
Not knowing which way it’s gonna go makes life more interesting, I suppose.
In the meantime, since this blog appears to be at least the occasional meeting place for the relatives of all four victims, I appreciate the info Enoch Root supplied for James Shore’s kids and Salty’s immediate promotion of it. I hope the other three families will likewise let us know how we can help. If they don’t like the idea of soliciting online donations, maybe they could suggest other ways of honoring their loved ones–through a favorite charity, perhaps. Having all this info in one handy place folks could then copy and paste onto their own blogs would make it easier for folks to spread the word and participate, if they choose.
As small comfort as it may seem and as silly and indefensible as it sounds, I am a firm believer that such tiny crumbs of good eventually outweigh the looming evils that occasionally rise out there. I also remain convinced that most people are basically good. Even within this cantankerous bunch I’ve seen plenty of kindness and heart among the salt–or at the very least little mechanical pumplike doohickies lurking within their metal innards that operate as such.
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mojo Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Ooops, sorry, Enoch. Got you mixed up in the brain with another Enoch commenting over on Connie’s blog, though you might be one and the same person. I meant to say above, of course, Enoch Balls, not Root. Though I also suspect most everyone here knew who I was referring to, anyway…. I’ll shut up, now.
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Enoch_Root Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Hey – no prob – we are one in the same.
Enoch_Root = Enoch_Balls
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:17 am
I figured you were the same Enoch, and I copied and pasted the information about the Shore fund in the discussion section following my own blog post about the JAR arrest. Doing my part to spread the word…
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Can’t put together $500K for his bond and is going to stay in jail for awhile.
http://www.prescottenews.com/latest/james-arthur-rays-hearing-to-be-today-at-11-am
Since he is going to burn the rest of his money defending his innocent plea, seem unlikely that there will be much left when the civil ‘wrongful death’ trials start. Ultimately, this will be the only source of compensation to the families, children and loved ones left behind.
Anyone aware of any ‘funds’ set up to receive contributions for the families of Kirby Brown, James Shore, Liz Neuman and other injured?
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mirele Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
If I were an attorney thinking about filing a lawsuit, I’d be checking to see if Ray is squirreling money somewhere…. Piercing the corporate veil is your friend.
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Dear Friends and Family:
On behalf of the Shore/Gillespie family we’d like to express our deep thanks for all the kindness and generosity that has been shown to us over the past months. It’s an unbelievably sad time for us, but the help of family and friends has somehow made it bearable. James was such a great father, husband, brother, son and friend, it’s hard to imagine not seeing him again.
We have been overwhelmed by the generosity of our family and friends with the the food, flowers and cards that people have sent. We are so grateful. Please, please do not feel you need to do any more for us — but if you would like to send something, we ask that you make a contribution to the Shore kids’ education fund. Details are below…
Shore Children Education Fund
Please make checks payable to: Shore Children Education Fund and send to:
Shore Children Education Fund
c/o Schmidt & Bartelt Funeral Home
10121 W. North Ave.
Wauwatosa, WI 53266
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QKE Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
I want to make a quick apology. I just hit the thumbs down button again when I meant to hit the one on the left.
Thank you for sharing so deeply with us the impact Ray’s recklessness has had on you and your family.
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What did everyone else think about his lawyer’s statement after the arrest? He’s just now taking responsibility for his actions (now that he’s been arrested), but that doesn’t make it a crime (AZ interviewed hundreds of people, JR interviewed a select 20). He also said that James immediately reached out to the families (does immediately=10 days later???). He also said they were cooperating with the authorities every step of the way (3+ months after the tragedy James gave them the “whitepapers”). Sounds like we can’t let up on this guy until he’s behind bars.
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anon Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
These fools always have a “select” group of people to obtain testimonials from. They are the people that they use and usually the ones who end up the most hurt. BUT when push comes to shove the people who once supported them often end up their worst enemies. James Ray, like another person I can think of, may have a few more haters than ever before when the truth starts coming out. As for that Aussie dude, what a wanker stating James Rays comments at fact. I reckon he would be the sleaziest bastard in the secret.
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Hippo Reply:
February 4th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
“Reach out” = 50% of tuition refund.
I didn’t hear the lawyer’s statement, other than that no crime was committed.
As far as Ray taking responsibility, I imagine that he will grudgingly take a few kernels of responsibility in the smallest possible doses. And when he states what portion of responsibility he takes, watch for him to shift as much of the blame as he can onto others.
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I have a question for Mr. Droid or anyone else who might know:
I just saw footage of Ray being walked to court today. He is shackled hand and foot.
Obviously, Ray is not violent or dangerous. So why is he bound up as if he were Ted Bundy?
Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was hilarious, between the shackles and the orange jumpsuit, I was having a lovely moment of schadenfreude.
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mirele Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 7:20 am
That’s standard for people indicted of certain crimes. Manslaughter, for example.
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James Ray was arrested on my birthday! Best BD ever!
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Another scumbag who markets via the Internet is Satyen(read: Satan) Raja. Dangeous hypno-mindcontrol/NLP lizard. Salty, go after that fuck too.
Oh, if you want to get the psychology of these turds, read:
The Guru Papers: Masks Of Authoritarian Power
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For those interested about Oprah’s take on this…
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-23/oprah-and-the-sweat-lodge-guru/
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Hippo Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Ugh. Oprah’s statement is bullshit.
I post on another site, findadeath, and we have a five-page thread on the sweat lodge.
One lady who posts there found the transcript of Oprah’s gushing praise of James Ray and posted part of it.
It’s absolutely sickening.
I was thinking about when those cattlemen from Texas sued Oprah over the beef issue. I know they lost the case. I wish there were a way that somebody could sue Oprah for her undue influence on people.
If Oprah hadn’t acted like James Ray was God, he might never have had the opportunity to kill anyone.
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The whole “perp walk” thing, with the cameras and all that – is, um, optional, taht is, they can arrest someone quietly if they want to… but it does make a change of venue kind of pointless. Homeboy was on CNN.
Anyone else annoyed by how CNN keeps saying they’ve been “all over this story since it happened?”
Because, my impression has been, they were “all over” helping James Ray gain credibility, for a very long time… then nearly silent about him since the “accident.”
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Amen, Amy, at least about the first part — i.e., CNN helping Ray and his ilk gain credibility. Three years ago at this time, Larry King was still starry-eyed over The Secret, and he gave it and its “stars” way more air time than they deserved, IMO. He and his colleagues did indeed give the New-Wage gurus a pass for a couple of years.
However, after CNN discovered what a “sexy” story this was, they *were* all over it — more than some of the broadcast networks, anyway. Now ALL of them are falling all over each other to tell the story, and they’ll be doing that as long as it means ratings.
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This whole thing is very interesting but what interests me the most are the bloody dogooders like DAVID SCHIRMER from Austalia who are attempting to MILK THE SYSTEM yet again by PUTTING DOWN everyone who has anything negative to say about JAMES RAY while being NEGATIVE DOING IT AND PUTTING HIMSELF ON HIS PEDESTAL. Funny how the dickhead changes his story every time he gets nasty feedback and that is why he will get nowhere in life.
Listen to the people trying to make sense of this incredible tragedy…..the excuses and reasoning they try to come up with…. I guess James Ray was only fucking human. What a pathetic sadistic unthinkable sort of excuse was that. So a murderer is only human then? I have quesions, many questions because I find people like that wanker in Australia sadistic, manipulative and very very dangerous.
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