James Ray Trial Tweets :: March 22nd
22 Mar 2011 :: by sd :: Comments- Mr. Li continues his cross of Laura Gennari. #JamesRay
- LauraG. didn’t notice the table of life saving watermelons. #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:31:56 2011
- “You could only leave between rounds” ~LauraG #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:35:46 2011
- Mr. Li :: You went out in a controlled manner? LauraG :: “As controlled as you can be in a blind panic …” #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:36:55 2011
- clockwise = safety #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:37:58 2011
- Li wants to play a tape of LauraG’s post lodge police interview with police. #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:41:13 2011
- LaurieG says “I was fine” on police tape in reference to the vision quest. Mr. Li thinks this contradicts her court testimony #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:44:43 2011
- Laurie :: sorry I’ve been calling you Laura. – Mar 22 11:46:10 2011
- Mr. Li going over the different things Laurie can choose for herself :: like her own pants :: literally. #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:48:04 2011
- When LaurieG. said she didn’t stand up and speak :: she was referring to other events where people stood in fron of hundreds. #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:54:11 2011
- Mr. Li wants to play more LaurieG police interview … and does. Ms. Polk wants more tape played for 106 context #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:56:08 2011
- Mr. Li explains to LaurieG how at the time of her first interview she wasn’t nearly so clear headed about Mr. Ray’s tyranny. #JamesRay – Mar 22 11:57:22 2011
- Mr. Li questions about Ms. Gannari’s changing feelings about Mr. Ray are going to allow questions about that on re-direct. #idiot #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:00:12 2011
- Mr. Li :: you weren’t forced to meditate :: “I was there to follow the program. I’d paid enormous piles to be there.” #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:02:41 2011
- InSession AZ v. Ray: She feared that her testimony regarding her participation in Ray’s seminars would stigmatize and prevent her from landing a job. – Mar 22 12:02:45 2011 Retweeted by RayShouldPay
- Li asking about the veggie diet :: and the bad Angel Valley casserole. “How come you didn’t mention to the police it affected your mind>” – Mar 22 12:07:18 2011
- Li plays a tape of LaurieG telling coppers the were told to “hydrate hydrate hydrate” #JamesRay #WeKnowAlready – Mar 22 12:09:25 2011
- Mr. Li :: vision quest basically like camping? #JamesRay #NoWaterCamping – Mar 22 12:11:33 2011
- LaurieG :: “forced” is not the right word either way. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:14:32 2011
- Mr. Li :: “He didn’t throw you in the #sweatlodge? He didn’t physically force you to stay did he?” #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:16:58 2011
- Mr. Li :: “Did you file a lawsuit against the JRI?” Laurie :: yep. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:20:27 2011
- Sidebar / recess :: Ms. Polk not happy about claims written by a lawyer being used to impeach a witnesses testimony. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:21:53 2011
- Jury gone. Ms. Polk says the lawsuit was never disclosed to the state. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:22:28 2011
- Mr. Li praises his own diligence :: doesn’t go to disclosure rules. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:24:59 2011
- These lawsuits would definitely have gotten in had they been timely disclosed :: and they’re pretty good evidence of bias #JamesRay #hmm – Mar 22 12:27:58 2011
- If this lawsuit has settled :: then Ms. Polk wants that introduced to show that LaurieG is not biased. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:29:11 2011
- Mr. Li’s strage line of questions were him reading the claims from the suit and asking LaurieG if she had said those things :: #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:31:11 2011
- Mr. Li says that LaurieG’s lawsuit hasn’t settled. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:34:54 2011
- InSession Az v. Ray: The State also has an issue with the lawsuit since the complaint is hearsay and confidentiality agreements are connected to it. – Mar 22 12:32:18 2011 Retweeted by RayShouldPay
- Ms. Polk :: the disclosure rules are about avoiding surprise … and she’s surprised. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:36:54 2011
- Ms. Polk says the defense doesn’t want the whole document in because most of it would be bad for #JamesRay :: like with the DennisM lawsuit – Mar 22 12:39:27 2011
- How to use the suits is a close legal issue :: but the disclosure violation is ridiculous. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:42:18 2011
- Mr. Li can ask his questions {the State can still object to each one} :: the doc can’t be introduced as evidence #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:55:29 2011
- No decision on the extent of re-direct :: cause Judge also “surprised” by this new evidence :: and needs to look at it. #JamesRay – Mar 22 12:57:32 2011
- Judge takes a long recess to decide on this ruling :: he’s none to pleased about the disruption #JamesRay – Mar 22 13:13:10 2011
- Mr. Li “impeaching” LaurieG with her lawsuit :: in which her lawyer’s phraseology is more agressive than her own. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:30:35 2011
- Mr Li. :: True of False … you have direct economic interest in Mr. Ray being convicted. LaurieG :: I don’t know. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:31:37 2011
- If #JamesRay is convicted :: lawyer fees should be paid by Mr. Ray {her interest} Laurie :: “this is not my world I don’t know how it works” – Mar 22 15:34:22 2011
- Lawsuit questions over :: on to the stipulated waivers. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:35:42 2011
- There are {weak} precedents in case law for “touchings” that don’t involve any literal touching. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:37:24 2011
- TomMcFeeley He should skip it. Mr. Kelly is a busy man. Chop chop RT @dking1212: Oh finally the waiver forms #jamesray – Mar 22 15:39:05 2011 Retweeted by RayShouldPay
- Waiver questions :: much success … moving on. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:43:39 2011
- Mr. Li asks questions about the conversation between Liz and Laura before the lodge. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:46:46 2011
- Mr. Li makes some more comparisons between Laurie’s testimony and her police interview :: plays a tape from the interview – Mar 22 15:49:15 2011
- On tape LaurieG was talking about focusing on her cool hand :: which she had dug under the #sweatlodge. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:50:34 2011
- Mr. Li says LaurieG saying Liz slurred “no, no, no” {about needing to leave} wasn’t what she told detectives. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:54:27 2011
- Mr. Li plays another tape showing that LaurieG didn’t mention Liz slurring “no, no, no” in police interview. #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:55:45 2011
- Mr. Li :: “You didn’t know that Liz Neuman was dying?” #JamesRay – Mar 22 15:56:13 2011
- Mr. Li continues his “impeachment” of LaurieG by playing a tape of her still not realizing that she’d blacked out at the end of the lodge. – Mar 22 16:00:33 2011
- yogicher @RayShouldPay Shock,then post-traumatic shock = no one will remember to say everything when interviewed.Or remember what they said.#JamesRay – Mar 22 16:00:02 2011 in reply to RayShouldPay Retweeted by RayShouldPay and 1 other
- The interview with LaurieG was on October 27th. Two weeks after the #JamesRay #sweatlodge. – Mar 22 16:03:16 2011
- Laurie doesn’t mention having blacked out on the tape :: but otherwise her story was identical to her testimony. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:04:43 2011
- Laurie thought other people needed out of the #sweatlodge more than she :: thus Mr. Li implies that she was all good. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:05:35 2011
- Mr. Li now implies that LaurieG’s story was getting worse for the sake of her lawsuit. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:06:36 2011
- “Everything was very foggy for months.” ~LaurieG – Mar 22 16:07:03 2011
- Cross over. Mr. Li showed that gangsta bitch what’s what … I think … or something like that. #JamesRay #NiceLadies – Mar 22 16:08:33 2011
- Polk begins her re-direct with questions about the specifics of the short phone interview {1 hour} which Mr. Li was referencing. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:10:11 2011
- The interview was too short to give all the many details. LaurieG was still feeling very unwell … and was convalescing. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:11:29 2011
- @DatelineApril They don’t dispute her testimony :: they are just less complete and considered. #sweatlodge – Mar 22 16:12:46 2011 in reply to DatelineApril
- LaurieG mentions the channeler. Objection sustained. #JamesRay #Magics – Mar 22 16:13:57 2011
- Sounds like LaurieG left the lodge thinking she was healthy :: and not part of cult. Turns out :: she was sick .. and manipulated. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:15:18 2011
- A few days after getting home :: LaurieG still feeling like crap … decides to go to urgent care. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:20:59 2011
- Mr. Li objects because they don’t have a copy of the urgent care medical records :: sidebar. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:21:30 2011
- @TomMcFeeley “suits” would have been a better pillar than “relational” #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:26:57 2011 in reply to TomMcFeeley
- Sidebar over :: urgent care questions are in … #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:27:37 2011
- Results of the tests are out … facts surrounding her getting the tests are in … #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:29:24 2011
- LaurieG missed 3 weeks of work :: and then 2 weeks of half time. Mostly because she was having a hard time breathing. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:30:43 2011
- Ms. Polk asks LaurieG to talk about her emotional issues after the #sweatlodge :: objection overruled. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:31:30 2011
- Laurie starts talking about her PTSD type symptoms #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:32:34 2011
- Fake Mr. Li :: You chose to watch people die … correct? No one forced you to watch people die … correct? #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:34:00 2011
- Polk :: “What do you remember about the time your eyes were closed?” {after the lodge} LaurieG :: “Nothing.” – Mar 22 16:38:22 2011
- Based on LaurieG’s location :: she should have been almost first to leave … but instead she was almost last. #JamesRay #BlackOut – Mar 22 16:39:35 2011
- LaurieG was right the other people still in the lodge were “worse off” :: cause they were dead. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:44:05 2011
- Judge calls for a snap recess. #JamesRay – Mar 22 16:47:48 2011
- Mr. Li is really against having LaurieG read from her police transcript that he opened :: Ms. Polk really wants to do it. Seems moot to me. – Mar 22 17:22:10 2011
- #JamesRay teaching :: “learning occurs at the edge of chaos” :: LaurieG used to agree with that but has since learned better. – Mar 22 17:24:05 2011
- Ms. Polk asks about Ray’s expression :: “keep the goggles on” :: meaning people must remain immersed in #JamesRay’s teachings. – Mar 22 17:27:50 2011
- Ms. Polk asks Laurie about her “journey” after the #sweatlodge :: coming to terms with her own delusions and misunderstandings. #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:31:05 2011
- This is the dangerous line of questions that Mr. Li opened by asking too many questions about the slight changes in her story over time. – Mar 22 17:32:18 2011
- LaurieG outlines some of #JamesRay’s various textbook mind control tactics. – Mar 22 17:33:11 2011
- TomMcFeeley Gennari: Ray stripped me of my normal mental capacity. I’ve worked hard to pick up the pieces #jamesray – Mar 22 17:33:13 2011 Retweeted by RayShouldPay and 1 other
- Ms. Polk starts her questions about the lawsuit. #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:34:57 2011
- LG says she didn’t sign the lawsuit. #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:35:38 2011
- Ms. Polk :: who did you file the lawsuit against? {lists off all the other parties the defense is blaming} She only sued #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:37:40 2011
- Surprise was part of deal :: according to all witnesses so far … #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:39:13 2011
- Question about refund policy :: objection … sustained. #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:39:42 2011
- One refund question allowed :: finally! #JamesRay {no refunds in case you don’t know} – Mar 22 17:40:21 2011
- Way to go Ms. Polk! – Mar 22 17:40:57 2011
- The jury previously submitted a question about the refund policy that Judge Darrow didn’t allow the lawyers to ask. #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:42:00 2011
- Asking about the “offense touching” :: asks if that’s a legal term? LG doesn’t know that it is … but SD knows that it is #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:44:11 2011
- Ms. Polk is being allowed to ask questions about the other claims being made in the lawsuit … they don’t flatter #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:46:11 2011
- Sidebar. So stupid for Li to use the suit since it didn’t do anything to show LG as “biased”. There are 50 other witnesses to the same event – Mar 22 17:48:14 2011
- “Plaintiff was deprived of rational thought” #JamesRay {via no food water etc.} – Mar 22 17:56:16 2011
- The lawsuit has been forced into evidence via extensive questioning on it by both sides. Mr. Li demands re-cross … no dice. #JamesRay – Mar 22 17:58:01 2011
- Q: “Why did you file a lawsuit against #JamesRay” A: “Medical bills … sense of duty towards others … and to prevent future harms.” – Mar 22 18:02:15 2011
- The lawsuit lists prevention of future harms as one of the reasons for its filing. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:03:20 2011
- TragedyInSedona #jamesray own actions after SW09 when he continued with business as usual made many of us feel that we had to do and say what we knew – Mar 22 18:04:48 2011 Retweeted by RayShouldPay
- Re-direct over :: jury questions sidebar … #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:06:03 2011
- Jury Q. 1 :: Did you go shopping on the Friday after the #sweatlodge. A: Yes with Ms. Tucker … but “dazed, numb, and in shock” #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:09:22 2011
- Mr. Li :: “After two people passed away you went shopping … correct?” – Mar 22 18:09:54 2011
- Jury Question 2 :: How long were you shopping? A: Couple hours #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:11:00 2011
- Ms. Gennari is excused subject to recall. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:12:02 2011
- State calls Melinda Martin :: sweet! #JamesRay … I think she’s lost weight. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:14:17 2011
- Was getting bored of the camera not being on the witness. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:15:16 2011
- MM hired to work for JRI by Megan Fredrickson in Feb 2009 … #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:16:04 2011
- Melinda answered to Megan :: Megan answered to #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:17:24 2011
- Approximately 20 employees at JRI when Melinda was there. #JamesRay reception, marketing, collection, accounts, and coaching types – Mar 22 18:20:17 2011
- Ms. Martin learned about #JamesRay’s “teachings” by going through the seminars herself {a requirement at JRI} – Mar 22 18:23:25 2011
- MM wasn’t the event coordinator at Spiritual Warrior 2009 because Megan Fredrickson handled it. MM was the Angel Valley – JRI liaison. – Mar 22 18:24:51 2011
- Marta Reise {sp?} was a regularly hired vendor. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:25:30 2011
- Melinda naming dream teamers :: Mark Rock the only new name. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:26:50 2011
- Mr. Ray wasn’t involved in selecting Dream Teamers for the events according to MM. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:27:55 2011
- Megan sent Melinda to CPR and first aid training with Tanya H a couple months before SW09 #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:29:11 2011
- TomMcFeeley @RayShouldPay He was at the 12 o’clock in the lodge, near Kirby and James. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:28:28 2011 Retweeted by RayShouldPay
- Dream Teamer’s received “training” from Megan Fredrickson on site. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:31:22 2011
- Q: Was CPR / First Aid training one of the criteria for selecting Dream Team members? A: No – Mar 22 18:35:35 2011
- Q: Was there CPR / First Aid training on site? A: No. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:36:54 2011
- The “syntax” :: the event timeline introduced :: contains Megan Fredrickson margin notes. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:38:15 2011
- It seems that the syntax says nothing about safety. #JamesRay #OhNoes – Mar 22 18:41:18 2011
- Mr. Kelly objects to Ms. Polk calling it “head shaving” instead of “hair cuts”. Sustained. Melinda says the same thing … that’s fine. – Mar 22 18:43:44 2011
- Why do you guys think Fredrickson’s have immunity? Someone give me a link. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:44:28 2011
- Questions about people who left SW09 before it was complete. Lots of objections. Didn’t really get to it. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:47:13 2011
- Evening recess. #JamesRay – Mar 22 18:47:56 2011
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