Luis Li Does His Best
I said I wasn’t going to cut together the Luis Li lowlights … for the sake of my own sanity. But then I realized … it’s not about me :: so I did it anyway.
Thank you … me.
You’re welcome … me.
Me me me me … me.
And here’s some lawyer heckling tweets for you :: brought to you by :: you guessed it … me.
Thank you .. me.
You’re welcome … me.
You get the idea …
… me.
– The “big rubber deal” was Thomas Jefferson’s idea. #JamesRay – 06-17 16:49:58
– “You’re doing kung-fu in a Ramada … and someone poisoned it with OPs … the deaths aren’t your fault” … #JamesRay … okay then – 06-17 16:59:53
– Mr. Li sure makes a lot of military references for an L.A. sissy who’s never been in the military. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:04:10
– “How could anyone anticipate this?” Well let’s put Daniel P. on the stand and then re-ask that stupid question … #JamesRay – 06-17 17:07:51
– Mr. Li suggests Dr. Dickson pour ant killer on his body if he thinks he’s so smart. Sounds fun :: nothing would happen. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:11:31
– This isn’t India folks. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:12:27
– Don’t do long crosses if you don’t have any questions. Don’t do a long close if you don’t have any evidence. Trial Advocacy 101 :: #JamesRay – 06-17 17:14:45
– Mr. Li saw some ants kill a lady in the parking lot. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:20:32
– This is Det. Diskin’s maiden voyage landing the plane on the aircraft carrier. {mixed metaphors are best … right Yale??} #JamesRay – 06-17 17:26:09
– Wrap it up Sally. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:32:35
– Seal Team 6. {seriously} Apple Fucking Pie! #JamesRay – 06-17 17:33:12
– “We don’t have secret meetings in America!” #JamesRay ha! We don’t? – 06-17 17:34:10
– He was holding his hand over his heart! Oh god that was classic. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:35:16
– Retweet of Chrissy (ChrissyLincoln) OMG! He was a prosecutor before this? He literally has never mentioned it #JamesRay – 06-17 17:35:31
– The “we don’t have secret meetings” defense :: ace in the hole … or something. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:36:33
– Mr. Li needs at least another hour to hold his heart and talk about the Marines. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:40:14
– Recess for secret meetings. #JamesRay – 06-17 17:41:23
– Retweet of Chrissy (ChrissyLincoln) Mr Li, hope your father’s day plans include remembering those who aren’t able to celebrate father’s day b/c your client’s behavior.#JamesRay – 06-17 17:42:47
– Retweet of J. Cheri (yogicher) hmm. maybe NOT Monday. Father’s Day Sunday. Thinking of James Shore’s family. #JamesRay spends his last ‘free’ fathers day with his Dad – 06-17 17:43:02
– “It would be like an episode of CSI where the detective never goes to the crime lab.” #JamesRay {omg … you mean TV’s not real?} – 06-17 18:12:38
– The State didn’t call Ms. Sy … as evidence. #JamesRay – 06-17 18:15:40
– “It’s about what decisions you want to make for your country.” #JamesRay – 06-17 18:17:51
– Retweet of just jacqui (justjacqui3)Li can name all the months #JamesRay – 06-17 18:18:01
– Mr. Li points to @FonsecaAP again :: {maybe it was her?} :: #JamesRay – 06-17 18:19:15
– Dr. Dickson didn’t say there wasn’t a test for OP’s … he said it wasn’t accurate or useful. #JamesRay {Luis confused} – 06-17 18:22:56
– Mr. Li uses charts to illustrate how Det. Diskin didn’t investigate the OP’s until the day after the first time he heard about it. #JamesRay – 06-17 18:25:44
– Mr. Li wonders why “we are playing games” pretending like the phantom EMT isn’t an EMT. #JamesRay {Ms. Polk said he prolly was an EMT} – 06-17 18:30:26
– “Is this Communist Russia?” #JamesRay – 06-17 18:32:35
– “Just One Bite will kill you … if you’re a rat” #JamesRay {he finally figured it out!!} – 06-17 18:37:53
– Only “all the rats from every valley and dale” :: 25,000 rats :: could eat one plate of rat poison. #JamesRay – 06-17 18:39:09
– Mr. Li is losing it … but “we’re not done yet” … #JamesRay – 06-17 18:39:41
– The Hamilton’s dumb beliefs are no where near as stupid as your causation defense Mr. Li. #JamesRay – 06-17 18:41:20
– Retweet of April Santiago (DatelineApril) Some jurors slightly smiling, others rubbing their forehead during Li’s closing. #jamesray – 06-17 18:41:44
– Abraham Lincoln. #JamesRay – 06-17 18:42:53
– Mr. Li identifies Rotillo in a photo :: not evidence from the case :: then he says “I”m guessing” #JamesRay – 06-17 18:45:07
– I don’t want guessing on my aircraft carrier Marines! #JamesRay – 06-17 18:45:49
– Retweet of Jeanne Barkemeijer (Jeanne0o0) Li conveniently omits the fact that #JamesRay treated the sick and dying like bugs. – 06-17 18:46:08
– Mr. Li hoping to get a mistrail by getting someone on the jury to slap him. #JamesRay – 06-17 18:47:09
– Retweet of Tom McFeeley (TomMcFeeley) Pulling the plug, Mr. Li? Liz’s family actually did that. #jamesray – 06-17 18:47:35
– Retweet of Michele (MicheleInSedona) Dear Arizona #JamesRay jurors – the man you see in front of you is actually an illegal alien. U know what to do. – 06-17 18:48:13
– Mr. Li brings up the {now settled} Angel Valley lawsuit. #JamesRay – 06-17 18:49:36
– Retweet of Melissa Phillips (marvimelissa) for some reason I’m reminded today of the “song that never ends” – 06-17 18:49:56
– Mr. Li walks out of the courtroom. #JamesRay Can you hear me now? – 06-17 18:52:39
– When all else fails {like poorly planned litigation strategy} … histrionics! #JamesRay – 06-17 18:55:24
– Every time Mr. Li says “we’re not done yet” I’m forced to repress vomit … I wonder if there’s OP’s in my coffee? #JamesRay – 06-17 19:03:49
– “It’s your system … “the founders” gave it to you.” #JamesRay – 06-17 19:04:41
– Lunch … if you still feel like swallowing. #JamesRay – 06-17 19:05:55
– Retweet of Kathryn NicDhàna (nicdhana) Lunch. Wonder if #JamesRay is bullying Li into fasting and ignoring distress of jurors. You are more than that! – 06-17 19:11:00
– Retweet of Tom McFeeley (TomMcFeeley)Some people talk to animals; others dress up as God, withhold meals and make people lay “dead” for 5 hours. Tomato – Tomahto #jamesray – 06-17 19:44:01
– Retweet of Connie Joy (TragedyInSedona) just got email from #jamesray at 12:19 pm Pac trying to sell me something – address at bottom is his Carlsbad off – closed for over year – 06-17 19:49:10
– Communications line for my whole block just got cut :: had to go to a friend’s so I wouldn’t miss Mr. Li’s awesome. #JamesRay – 06-17 21:14:57
– “Normally I would be done here … but the State is ‘forcing me’ to discuss negligent homicide” #JamesRay – 06-17 21:22:53
– “NO ONE perceived the risks.” #JamesRay {except all the people screaming for help of course} – 06-17 21:27:19
– Stop bringing up robots Li :: I’m warning you … #JamesRay – 06-17 21:29:04
– Recess. Not only do I have to listen to Mr. Li :: but now I’m using Windows. #JamesRay – 06-17 21:31:31
– Retweet of Maria Andros (MariaAndros_) Li is amazing. He’s not only creating his theory for #jamesray but destroying it at the same time. – 06-17 21:31:50
– The parties agreed on 4 hours :: Mr. Li is “accidentally” going to do double that. #JamesRay #ethics #LawyersSuck – 06-17 21:34:27
– Ms. Polk says that Mr. Li “can take his time” :: and we’ll back on Tuesday for rebuttals. #JamesRay … god help us. – 06-17 21:49:30
– Mr. Li :: “It’s an accident” :: #JamesRay {really? I thought it was poison?} – 06-17 21:57:44
– Retweet of just jacqui (justjacqui3) Li explains how reasonable people would do what #JamesRay did not do – 06-17 21:58:38
– “The State has failed to prove that there are not toxins involved” … #JamesRay … #logic – 06-17 22:01:13
– Mr. Li :: “I’m trying my hardest” … ah … how adorable … #JamesRay – 06-17 22:03:10
– “Where’s the proof of conditioning” asks Mr. Li after his 60 objections to Rick Ross. #JamesRay – 06-17 22:03:54
– Mr. Li asks the jury to imagine him standing behind Ms. Polk whining during her rebuttal … I agree … do do that. #JamesRay – 06-17 22:05:43
– Retweet of Tom McFeeley (TomMcFeeley) Mr. Li, your boss, Brad Brian “went to the media.” So stop picking on brave Dr. Bunn #jamesray – 06-17 22:06:36
– Retweet of just jacqui (justjacqui3) Uh oh…Li started over again #JamesRay – 06-17 22:07:12
– Mr. Li gives the criminal a shoulder rub. #JamesRay – 06-17 22:21:23
– “Mr. Ray is not guilty of any offense at all” … #JamesRay – 06-17 22:22:19
– Mr. Li goes out with … “I’ve done my best” … who cares? #JamesRay – 06-17 22:24:21
– Standing ovation {from some drunken smurfs} #JamesRay – 06-17 22:25:18
– Recess until Tuesday morning. Ms. Polk :: then we’re done. So I say for the third day in a row … ONE more day. #JamesRay – 06-17 22:27:25
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I want my government to be the kind of government that puts away murderers
WINNER!! ::
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Syndicater H8r Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 6:51 pm
@jamo,
Well we dont want to be like communist Russia with staged trials either do we?
So if Im correct about what I saw here, Luis closing arguements were pretty much:
People forgetting that this COLD HARD EVIL government, with their pictures of dead people, are appealing to your sense of emotion on a crime for MURDER? How can they do this? THIS IS A MURDER TRIAL, this man has a name, his name is James Arthur Ray. Stop feeling sorry for the people who died and wanting to blame this poor man, do NOT feel emotion. Oh and ignore all the real doctors testimonies because Im telling you they have NO EVIDENCE people died in the sweat lodge. And I’ll tell you what else, if you vote not guilty, I will personally get you free tickets to James comeback tour “I Didn’t Get Ass Raped In Jail, And Now You Can’t Too”.
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Thanks, SD, for posting the vid of Louie doing his best Clarence Darrow impression and coming across like a pitifully bad salesman.
The news articles, so far, have praised his impassioned performance as something masterful and the vid gives a better slant on the garbled emotive mess that his closing really was.
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wondering why Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 9:11 am
@Stoic,
I wonder…Do these reporters and talking heads actually really watch the whole thing?? How can they and report nonsense like that?? They are doing the same thing on the Casey Anthony defense debacle..
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SD Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 11:53 am
@wondering why & @Stoic ::
They are doing the same thing on ALL of the news … and the world is going to shit accordingly.
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This case will at least have cost JR the biggest fortune and probably every penny that his clients have ever gave him so —- either way he WILL pay and Luis Li will quickly forget JR when he’s paid up. Cant wait to see JR pay in any way really but preferably behind walls.
WINNER!! ::
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SD Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:20 pm
@teetotle ::
Luis Li isn’t going to forget until I forget … and I don’t feel that coming on any time soon.
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Luis Li’s closing argument made him look pandering to me, as if he were a beggar rattling a tin cup looking to the jury for a hand out. He also came across as an attention deprived little boy, screaming “Look what I can do!!” to the jury. I could not find the ‘defense’ in his closing. Did Li, Do, or Kelly ever put forth a defense, other than insane finger-pointing? Organophosphate: fact or fiction? Ted did it, at least according to Ray. Mistrial motion after mistrial motion. Acquittal request. Li’s whining, Do’s sashay, “Correct?”, and Kelly’s condescending demeanor with female witnesses. Not only did they not have a leg to stand on for a defense, the entire body was missing. It was a ghost defense, and not a very good one. Part of what I believe is comic about the defense is that Ray PAID them for this piece of work…unbelievable. It is a show of the Law of Attraction at work…what Ray put forth, Ray received. That was one piece of the justice puzzle, now for a guilty verdict.
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White Rabbit Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:04 am
@Omikse,
How do you spell relief……
How about the end of having to hear from the defense.
How about no more whining, almost foot-stamping histrionics while trying to get all of the balls in their court by excluding all relevant evidence from being brought to the trial? Then Kelly stands up there, leans on the podium and puts on his most smarmy voice, asking the witness: You agree that this jury deserves to hear the truth, don’t you? Every time he did that my bullshit-o-meter went off the scale. Okay boys, back up the truck and dump it here.
How about no more learning medicine filtered through Truc Do who learned it by reading Organophosphates for Dummies? Correct?
How about the end of obfuscation and manipulation?
Mr. Li doesn’t believe in conditioning, however every time one of the defense got up to do their thing my conditioned response was: Oh….man! Not again! You conditioned me well, Mr. Li.
I am looking forward to hearing Sheila Polk’s final calm and rational words to end this whole ordeal. You go, girl!
That is how you spell relief.
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Omikse Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:12 am
@White Rabbit,…I spell relief…G-U-I-L-T-Y !!!!!!!
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Jean D Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:37 am
@Omikse, Yes, that exit was,uh,just…weird. Maybe he just needed to pee real bad. What the heck was that statement about thousands of rats flying into Sedona? Is Li losing his mind from associating with Ray? Did A. Gordon teach him some faux evangelical preacher tips? I know, maybe he’s been communicating with the trial master,Lee Kuan, discussing ways to win people over by mentioning strange things dropping out of the sky.
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SD Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:22 pm
@Jean D ::
… “every valley and dale” … a totally normal thing to say folks.
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How much pepto bismol did you have to consume while editing this video?
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SD Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 11:54 am
@Fake Blogger ::
I suffer for my soup …
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[...] 21 Salty Droid has edited a video of defense attorney Luis Li’s closing statement. For a sympathetic view of Li’s argument, see this post from CNN’s In Session. They saw [...]
O.M.F.S.M. Why didn’t I listen to the robot and not watch that? WTF? He walked out of the courtroom? What a total goofball. Even the court stenographer was laughing at him (7:00). And it IS about him.
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Pathfinder Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:13 pm
@Dave, Yeah – I saw that too. The stenographer was trying to stifle a laugh and was failing.
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Wow, video’s gone. New bogus DMCA claim speed record?
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Li: “The defendant HAS A NAME….James Arthur Ray….and he’s been sitting here before you for the last four months….We haven’t mentioned him at all during this time, so I thought I’d better introduce him…”
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Nancy O Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 9:56 am
@Yakaru, yah…but everyone else (especially the victims) are referred to as “folks” since apparently their names aren’t as important.
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katiecoolady Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:01 am
@Nancy O,
That’s actually disgusting.
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Yakaru Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 1:57 pm
@Nancy O, & katiecoolady
YES. The continual references to “the folks that died” high up in the list of disgusting despicable stuff that pack of shitscum called the defense has pulled.
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LaVaughn Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
@Yakaru, Meanwhile Sheila Polk has repeatedly referred to him as Mr. Ray, James Ray — far more often than she’s called him the defendant. Shamelessly distorted pandering.
I also love the way showing pics of the victims is appealing to emotions and prejudice but putting telling jury that it’s about Mr. Ray — who has a NAME — isn’t.
Li just hurts my brain.
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That was hilarious…..my favorite part was how he drank from Liz’s cup….and all the rats. Holy crap…it’s not about me.
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The heckling comments are better than the droning whiny “Patriotic” defense closing. :::standing ovation:::
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Oh dear Lord, just watched the video. If I’d been drinking for every time he’d protested too much with his “it’s not about me” line, I’d be a lot less repulsed right now.
The dramatic exit out the door. Please!
And for real, did he really play the “trans fat” card? Oreos? For real???
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Omikse Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 9:40 am
@katiecoolady,..instead of the “Twinkie Defense” it was the Oreos, and not Ted,..yeah! The Oreos did it.
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Jean D Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 10:40 am
@katiecoolady, He even defined the word trans fat for them. Not smart, Louie.
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I predict a conviction before the weekend.
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Bethann Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 11:46 am
@katiecoolady,
I’m with you on this Katie. I believe the jury will work diligently to be done with this case by the week-end.
And as if we haven’t heard enough from Li, he began the morning with numerous objections during Ms Polk’s closing.
It appears as if Judge Darrow has had enough with Li’s neurotic mis-behavior.
Listening to Ms Polk’s thoughtful presentation of the facts supports the justice these families need.
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I know it’s not about me, but I wish I had just watched this video instead of the more than 6 hours of it live. What a fool I’ve been.
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Actually, I always thought it was all about me, but I guess I was wrong.
I didn’t know whether to laugh or throw up at this tawdry display, so I think I did a little bit of both. Li used every cheap manipulative tactic he could muster to convince the jurors that to even think of the defendant — whose name, he reminded them, is James Arthur Ray! — as a criminal was equivalent to the worst tyrannies perpetrated by the most despotic regimes in history.
And then, as others have mentioned here, Li played the modern-day equivalent of the contempt-of-the-Twinkie-defense card: pandering, quite without irony, to the personal-accountability sentiments that have become so fashionable of late. Goodness, we can’t micromanage the behavior of adults! We can’t protect them from their own foolish choices! Obviously this was part of the basic defense strategy to take attention away from the issue of the personal accountability of the defendant, who sat there in court like a monkey in a suit (no offense to real monkeys).
And how egregiously unfair it has been, Li whined, to humanize the victims by putting their pictures up for the jurors to see. It’s time we stop fixating on the dead, and start thinking of James Arthur Ray.
Well, I for one *am* thinking of him. I’m thinking of him in an orange jumpsuit.
Jeez, I’m glad this thing is almost over.
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Bethann Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 11:50 am
@Cosmic Connie,
Too bad he isn’t in Sheriff Arpaio’s county, he’d be pretty in pink. The irony, once convicted he’ll be a hot Arizona prison. Hopefully it will allow time for reflection, narcissists love mirrors.
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Stoic Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
@Cosmic Connie,
I too am thinking of him in orange— toothless, wrinkled and saggy and with no access to his maintenance regime of ‘manly’ drugs.
Change THAT film, James.
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Thank-you, Miss Polk, Thank-you…..
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Penelope Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 7:36 pm
@Omikse, I missed the prosecutions closing on the TV, is it available anywhere online?
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katiecoolady Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 8:34 pm
@Penelope,
I was going to ask the same thing–final rebuttal argument available anywhere?
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The Jury went to deliberations!!!
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The Jury just went to the Jury room to deliberate!!!!
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Sheila brought it home for the victims. Thorough closing, all points covered, Ray’s lack of responsibility.
Finally … the jury is charged with their duties.
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jamo Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 1:58 pm
@Bethann, Yes Sheila brought home the bacon. Sad case. Makes me want Ray to pay even more.
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Bethann Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:25 pm
@jamo,
I’m hoping once he’s convicted, we have new laws in place that keep this kind of behavior in check.
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I doubt the soon to be convicted Mr. Ray has ever had to sit anywhere among a group of people and keep his mouth shut for as long as this. Given how smart that f*cker thinks is, that had to be excruciatingly painful.
Maybe Larry King would enjoy coming out of retirement for a prison interview. Nahhh… After this nobody will give a crap what he has to say.
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jamo Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 2:12 pm
@Mario, Ever since “the secret” and oprah, he has thought he is king shit and done all the talking (lecturing) at others and none of the listening. He is going to have to keep his mouth shut in the big house. We are witnessing his deep demise.
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“Transfats are the fats in burgers and oreos and things that taste good”. “thousands of flying rats”? WTF?
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ChrissyLincoln Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@@luckygalnj, Don’t forget the ants and other large bugs.
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Thank you, SHEILA!!! ♩♪ ♫ ♬ ❤¸.•*¨*•☆ ♩♪ ♫ ♬
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wondering why Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
@kalista7, Yes, I gave her a standing ovation!
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In my little fantasy world, I envision the jury going back to deliberations, looking forward to the lunches they ordered… they elect the foreman/woman/person/trying to be inclusive here. Then just for fun, they take the first ballot. Guilty all around. Then the discussion focuses on how long they need to stay out to look like reasonable people. And how excited they are about getting on with their lives. They decide screw it. We are coming back tonight so we can leave and GO HOME and stay there if we want. It’s a lovely day in my head, I will try and manifest this for reals.
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Interesting that at the exact same time James Ray is sitting there on trial for the inexcusable and untimely death of 3 people who put their lives and trust in him… (sadly)…
James Death Ray is still somehow ranking quite well in the stack rankings for Bob Proctor and his hopeful protege’ Lanny Morton’s Six Minutes to Success launch, going on now…
Check out sixminutesjvblog.com
They need to seize his assets… Well, soon enough I guess it won’t matter as the only thing he’ll be able to spend it on is cigs and steroids.
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SD Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:29 pm
@How does this happen? ::
Yes … that is interesting. And I need to see those rankings … someone make that happen.
Lanny Morton tried to pre-appease me before this launch. He failed … that story soon. Good job Lanny … you idiot.
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How does this happen? Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:07 pm
@SD, Believe it or not – he has them all listed up on the http://www.sixminutesjvblog.com open for the whole wide world to see!
You’ll notice a few A-teamer’s on there.
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SD Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:19 pm
@How does this happen? ::
I do believe it {Dr. Paul prolly doesn’t … he has a hard time with obviously true stuff} …
Day 5
1 Mind Movies
2 Alex Ortner
3 Ed O’Keefe
4 Blair Gorman
5 Mind Valley
6 Doug Westmoreland
7 Alvin Huang
8 Sonia Ricotti
9 Bill Harris
10 Frank Mangano
11 James Ray
12 Brian Proctor
13 Brian Tracy
14 Sam Crowley
15 Lee Jenkins
16 Magnus Huckvale
17 Rochelle Marmorstein
18 Manny Goldman
19 Gay Hendricks
20 Vic Johnson
21 Vick Strizheus
22 James Thompson
23 Ryan Deiss
24 Dan Bainbridge
25 Ric Thompson
Over all Leaders so far
1 Blair Gorman
2 Tapping Solution
3 Mind Movies
4 Mind Valley
5 Bill Harris
6 Brian Proctor
7 Doug Westmoreland
8 Sonia Ricotti
9 Frank Mangano
10 Vic Johnson
11 James Ray
12 Alvin Huang
13 Vick Strizheus
14 Robert Anthony
15 Magnus Huckvale
16 Brian Tracy
17 James Thompson
18 Lee Jenkins
19 Chris Attwood
20 Ed Rush
21 Henk Schram
22 Dan Bainbridge
23 Brian Tracy
24 Larry Ostrovsky
25 Rich German
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How does this happen? Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:23 pm
@SD, Also… Is anyone on James Ray’s list? I’m curious if he a) used the swipe copy all the other affiliates used b) wrote his own love letter to Bob for his list or c) had one of brainwashed stooges write something “unique” and endearing…
Proly not a), swipe copy is SOooo 2008. Proly not b) either… (though it pained him so) … Handcuffs make typing notoriously difficult, and self proclaimed “gods” don’t like difficult stuff. That’s why they recruit followers to do their bidding… So my guess is c) … But dont worry James, Bob will understand if you don’t get to write it yourself, what with hands being “tied” (aka: cuffed) n’all.
Besides, it all comes down to results, right? So for now… Murderous crimes and all… You’re still in the clique. Yippee!!!
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SD Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:30 pm
@How does this happen? ::
Looks like swipe to me …
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How does this happen? Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:41 pm
@SD, Bwahh ha aha haha!!!
Ps. When did it become okay to lie in marketing? Ala “so many people wrote in after yesterday’s video that Bob figured he’d send *another* one today.”
Seriously?
This crap is getting old.
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Yakaru Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 6:45 pm
@How does this happen?,
Here’s the sound track….
Yakaru Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 6:49 pm
“The large print giveth and the small print taketh away”
-Tom Waits
Sheila is/was wonderful! Sitting on pins & needles waiting for the jury decision!
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SD Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:39 pm
@Colleen’s sister ::
Yeah … the whole of Yavapai can be proud of how their Government represented them. The defense couldn’t find a single bad act by the State to latch on to … try as they might.
Hopefully the jury doesn’t torture us too long …
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Yakaru Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:43 pm
@Colleen’s sister,
She and her team will be getting a nice postcard from me soon.
I’m sure that what happened to Colleen was part of what made them raise the charges to manslaughter, and I hope that’s what he gets convicted of. I am sad that that guy could cause so much pain.
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ChrissyLincoln Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 4:44 pm
@Colleen’s sister, Continuing the lively conversation in my head… after the Death Ray is found guilty, he is extradited to Cali for Colleen’s murder trial!!!!
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Colleen's sister Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 6:18 pm
@ChrissyLincoln, that conversation keeps running through my head as well!!!
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wondering why Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 5:42 pm
@Colleen’s sister,
I too am wondering how long it will take for them to reach a decision..
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White Rabbit Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 6:31 pm
@wondering why,
What keeps going through my mind is the end of the movie Point Break where Johnny Utah (Keanu Reeves) finally catches up with Bodhi (Patrick Swayze) in New Zealand when they are having the 100 Year Wave coming out of Antarctica.
As Bodhi stands on the beach regarding the massive surf, Johnny comes up behind him and says probably some of the worst-delivered lines in movie history, but oh so appropos in this situation:
“You’re going down, Bodhi. People died. You gotta go down.”
Funny, James used to show a clip from that movie in one of his events. He never showed the ending, though.
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White Rabbit Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 6:36 pm
@White Rabbit,
Make that 100 Year Storm. The waves are now particles.
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As they showed James Ray sitting there in court today with that sad sack expression on his face, fidgeting uncomfortably through Sheila’s powerful finale, I thought I detected wide rows along the sides of his head above his ears where it looks like he has recently received hair plugs (or something) to cover his male pattern baldness. The top of his hair has always looked sprayed on to me.
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This is the type of defense you get when neither the facts nor the law favor your client’s case. As I listened to Li’s close (as much as I could stand) the similarities of defense strategy to James Ray’s manipulative techniques for extracting cash from his followers were obvious.
e.g. Don’t believe what you see or hear unless JAR/Li tells you it’s true, and above all don’t listen to your own common sense if it conflicts with JAR/Li’s version/interpretation of events. In other words suspend belief in yourself and accept the BS these “spiritually evolved assholes” are spewing.
I hope a lot of people are envisioning JAR in orange for a long time to come tonight.
If anyone has a capture of Mrs. Polk’s final closing summation please make it available for our viewing.
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Penelope Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 7:51 pm
@Dancing Bubba, I was wondering if Li got advice on how to wear down the jurors from JAR.
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Dancing Bubba Reply:
June 22nd, 2011 at 7:46 am
@Penelope, From my experience sitting on several juries, including one child abuse murder, Li’s blathering on and on ad nausium probably pissed the jury off. They have common sense and will realize that he had to ramble on so much because he doesn’t really have a valid argument in defense of JAR’s behavior. When you do have a clear argument, as does Mrs. Polk, you focus on the important points of your case and don’t waste time or energy on nonsense except to point out the glaring errors on Li’s fake argument.
The jury will sift through the details until they’ve satisfied themselves that there is no reasonable doubt remaining and (hopefully) convict this sick & twisted SOB before the weekend.
The standard is: “what would a reasonable person have done in these circumstances?”. Most of us think we’re reasonable, at least most of the time. And I doubt anyone on that jury believes they would do what JAR did to those people; even to their worst enemies. They most likely to see his actions as the equivalent to withholding water from a person dying of thirst in the desert.
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Anne Reply:
June 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
@Dancing Bubba,
I’m really glad to hear your experience with lawyers who go on and on and on about the same thing, or nothing. I suspect there is one juror in particular who was pissed off.
In early May, a juror had asked whether it might be possible for him to attend a family reunion June 16 & 17 – which turned out to be two solid days of Li Li Li.
Unfortunately, the judge couldn’t promise him anything, but if Li had made his points and STFU, maybe the juror could have had the 17th off at least.
BTW, based on the similarity of the handwriting, that is the same juror who had more questions for witnesses than any other.
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In case it got lost in the shuffle, if anyone knows how to view Sheila’s final closing online anywhere would love to see it.
Pins and needles time. Did they deliberate at all today?
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Bethann Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 8:48 pm
@katiecoolady,
I can’t answer to viewing Sheila’s closing online. But as to the jury, at approximately, 12:30 PST they went straight into deliberations with lunch gratis of Judge Darrow. I’m assuming they deliberated until 5:00.
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I’ll put today’s Ms. Polk up tomorrow :: because I am the Alpha and Omega … of iMovie.
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katiecoolady Reply:
June 21st, 2011 at 9:46 pm
@SD,
And I worship you for it. ;) GRACIAS!!!
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It’s about time old Fuck Face went three for three, don’t ya think?
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Wonder if CNN will air the verdict on the live streaming. They could come back as soon as tomorrow.
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Ok, I got this idea from Nancy, but it’s so funny that I had to post it here…. Luis Li, this is for YOU!
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Luis Li is my freaking hero! He climbs mountains!
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Omikse Reply:
June 22nd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
@Detox your Mind,…with Luis Li’s track record for telling the truth, and not pandering to the jury by being a “Good ‘Ol Boy”,(and nearly having hysterics over the amount of insects in Arizona)…I have no proof he did, in fact, climb a mountain. We saw no pictures, he brought no witnesses to testify. I know! Ted climbed that mountain!…or, maybe Li has sniffed to many organophosphates…?
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Detox your Mind Reply:
June 23rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
@Omikse,
Classic!
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Detox your Mind Reply:
June 23rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
@Detox your Mind, Dear Thumbs Down People… I’m sorry my sarcasm was lost.
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Omikse Reply:
June 23rd, 2011 at 5:31 pm
@Detox your Mind,…you didn’t lose it…I knew it was there all along.
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Hey Salty-
are you that grey-haired guy with the macbook sitting on a bench behind the defense table? (you can see him around 2:38)
:P hahahaha
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