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In Defense of Jeremy Johnson

Author == 26 January 2011 95 Comments

“I’m not guilty!”

Squeals Jeremy Johnson in re Jeremy Johnson on iworkslive.com :: a now disappeared website that Johnson put up shortly after the FTC sued his sorry ass for $275 million dollars worth of soul sucking. Most of Johnson’s sites are still up :: but this one came down after just a week or so :: probably after one of his attorneys said something like :: “So I guess you’re stupid then? You WANT to go to fucking jail or something? You have the right to remain SILENT … ever heard that?”

So he took it down like a good badboy … but I saved it … cause that’s the sort of shit I do. The site had three pages :: and used an unmodified version of the “CNN & Black Baby” propaganda pictured above.

Make sure to notice our new not-friend Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff making yet another dazzling appearance in his role as useless sellout. But more on that later …

Reprinted in full :: for the Google record :: without remark {except for those remarks}.

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FTC Hypocrisy and Lies / Abuse of power by the FTC

Claim: iWorks illegally charged recurring billing to customers without written authorization.

Truth: Hundreds of companies charge recurring billing without written authorization, including Netflix, Amazon.com, and online games such as World of Warcraft.  Written authorization has never been a requirement for recurring billing, until the FTC decided that iWorks and iWorks alone was in violation of a non-existent “law”.

Claim: People who bought iWorks products didn’t know what they were being charged for.

Truth: this is provably untrue.  iWorks used the very standards set down by the FTC.  Furthermore, iWorks has thousands of customers on record who cancelled their memberships before the Trial period had ended.  This would be impossible if iWorks clients “didn’t know” what they were being charged for.

Claim: iWorks was somehow behaving “unethically” by using a Public Relations service.

Truth: This is another example of the twisted “logic” being used by the FTC in their witch-hunt against iWorks.  Nearly every company in the world uses some form of Public Relations Management.  Yet somehow, when iWorks engages in a simple business practice that close to 100% of all businesses also use as a business tool, iWorks is “in the wrong”, according to the FTC.

Claim: Chargebacks are proof that customers didn’t know that they were being charged.

Truth: Chargebacks are proof that the customers absolutely DID know that they were being charged.  Simple logic dictates that a customer would have to be aware of a charge before they could charge it back through their bank.  Furthermore, the Wall Street Journal ran an article on how chargebacks (or ‘Friendly Fraud’, as they call it) have crippled Online Merchants.  Companies such as Verifi specialize in nothing but chargeback prevention.

Claim: iWorks tried to ‘blackmail’ customers who Charged Back by threatening to blacklist them.

Truth: Of all the claims made by the FTC, this is perhaps the most ridiculous.  iWorks maintained a “Scrub” list intended to make sure that customers who charged back couldn’t purchase their products in the future.  Almost every business does the same.  If iWorks were really intent on “charging people without their knowledge”, as the FTC claims, why would they PREVENT people from purchasing their products?  The truth is that iWorks absolutely did not want to charge customers who were not aware of the terms of their offers.

Claim: iWorks sold Grant assistance knowing that the Government doesn’t actually provide Grants to people.

Truth: It seems odd that the FTC would claim that the world’s largest Grant provider (the Federal Government) doesn’t actually provide Grants.  But that aside, iWorks consistently stated in their marketing material that they provided information on over 70,000 Private Grants.  iWorks has documented proof and uncontested testimonials from clients who did indeed receive Grant money.

Claim: Negative Option Marketing is “fraudulent”.

Truth: Again, the FTC only seems to consider Negative Option Marketing “fraudulent” when iWorks does it.  Literally thousands of major companies, including FreeCreditReport.com, Amazon.com, American Express, Dish Network, and nearly every Cable Television, Cell Phone, and Internet Provider in America uses or has used Negative Option Marketing.   iWorks can show that the methods they used to market their products were identical (and in many cases superior) to the Negative Option offers used by these other companies.

Claim: iWorks tried to avoid FTC regulations.

Truth: iWorks attempted for more than two years to get the FTC to establish clear and consistent rules for Online marketing.  The FTC refused.  It became increasingly apparent that the FTC doesn’t exist to protect consumers; it exists to destroy small businesses.  The FTC would never dream of suing American Express or Amazon.com, because those companies possesses the resources to defend themselves.

Who is Jeremy Johnson?

Prior to the FTC attacks, Jeremy Johnson was mainly known as a philanthropist and humanitarian, whose selfless efforts had aided literally thousands of people in need. Jeremy assisted local Search and Rescue teams at his ow n expense, in some instances risking his pilot’s license and even his life in service of his community. He was featured in magazines such as the Readers Digest for his heroic efforts to save life and property during Utah’s devastating floods and wildfires from 2003-2011. His efforts to help build schools and orphanages in earthquake-shattered Haiti were featured on CNN. He was a businessman who employed hundreds of people throughout Utah. He was also a business owner who attempted to run his business ventures by the best standards and practices available from the FTC. Unfortunately, he soon realized that the FTC doesn’t exist to provide guidelines or assistance. They exist to cripple free enterprise. The truth is that iWorks and Jeremy Johnson constantly attempted to obtain clarification of Negative Option Marketing Law from the FTC, only to find that the FTC doesn’t want to provide clear guidelines. Providing clear guidelines would prevent them from doing what they really exist to do: destroy companies and businessmen who somehow stray over an imaginary line that only the FTC knows exists.

About iWorks

The story of I-Works is the story of a group of young entrepreneurs who built a company up from nothing to become a multi-million dollar success story, only to see it destroyed by the overzealous harassment of a government agency run amok.

In six years, I-Works grew from just fifteen employees to a national corporation employing hundreds of employees, and benefiting entire communities throughout Utah.  iWorks became the major employer in the Utah city of Ephraim. Yet they, along with so many other innocent workers and their families, lost their jobs during the worst economic crisis in modern U.S. history; all due the arbitrary actions of one rogue government agency.

The irony is that I-Works had spent literally millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours trying to ensure compliance with FTC regulations.  At any point over the past four years, the FTC could have avoided hundreds of lost jobs and saved millions of dollars in taxpayer money, merely by placing a single phone call.

I-Works was established in June of 2000, predominantly dealing in marketing over the telephone.  In 2004 I-Works began entering the online marketing arena and worked closely with a couple product developers to market highly popular content online.  In 2006 it terminated all phone marketing and focused entirely on the internet marketing arena.   In the beginning it was a fairly new market, with no real clear cut regulations.  As more advertiser came into the market it became evident that there were people striving to “do it right” vs. others that didn’t care, and were just after the “easy money”.

For those of us trying to follow any existing regulations we found that even the regulators themselves were struggling to determine what the regulations should be.  Most regulations were based off of older styles of marketing and did not really apply.  In 2006 we had a law firm review our advertisements and made some adjustments to ensure that we were “in line” with the current “best practices”.  In an effort to stay on top of any new regulations, the owner and General Manager flew to Washington DC to attend an FTC Negative Option conference, in January of 2007.  Everyone in attendance was trying to figure out what the regulations are, and should be, in order to continue with a legal practice of Negative Option advertising, while protecting the end consumer.  The FTC’s main guidance was a general statement that disclosures should be “clear and conspicuous” and “within the vicinity of the order submit button”.  Everyone was left to interpret what that actually meant.  This forum was not published until Jan 2009 and if one reads it in its entirety it is clear that it was full of many ideas and suggestions but there were still a lot of questions and things to be worked out.  Upon returning from the conference the owner elected to pull our advertising to review all sites and correct any issues that might not be compliant.  We saw a significant drop in sales for some time as we found it difficult to get affiliates to run our offers because we were told they were “too compliant.”.

Suddenly, and without any notice we found ourselves in the cross hairs of the FTC when on February 26, 2010 we received a 47 paged Civil Investigative Demand, asking us for every document that we could produce from January 1, 2006 to present.  Alleging that through our entire time in business we had been purposely defrauding customers, that we were not compliant, and that our products were not as claimed. None of these accusations match the facts of what we did as a company.

I-Works, as a marketing company, continually worked to ensure its advertisements were compliant by gathering information obtained from Forums and any legal cases that might have come out from another advertiser that got into trouble with the FTC.  The main focus of these investigations was lack of disclosure and false advertising.  Every time we reviewed these cases, we found our sites to closely follow the “Clear and Conspicuous” guidelines.  We would make further adjustments to our sites as necessary to ensure continued Compliance.

As further testament to I-Works efforts to be in compliance we invited the Attorney General of Utah, Mark Shurtleff, in first part of 2009, to visit our offices and to see our products and processes.  After the presentation he called our employees together and told them “that they should be proud to work for a company like ours” because we were doing it right, unlike other companies he had seen.

In addition, in May 2009 we invited two investigators from the division of consumer protection of the state of Utah to see the same presentation in our office and they also said they were very impressed with what we were doing.

Our contention is that the FTC has begun to implement a strategy that “everyone is guilty until proven innocent”.  The FTC, when “investigating”, has a predetermined outcome and ignores any evidence to the contrary.  In addition, if they would simply inform a company that there is a concern they would instantly make the change, thereby saving hundreds of thousands of dollars, jobs and tax payer money.

This presentation is a very brief history of the extreme measures that I-Works has taken over the years to strive to be compliant with laws and regulations.  It stands apart from all others in the industry.  None have even come close to providing the valuable information found in the products that we were marketing and few, if any have implemented similar policies and procedures. We will also show that there were many forces outside of our control that contributed to some of the negative things the FTC alleges.

Truth vs Fiction

There are two stories being told, and only one can be true.  The FTC is trying their hardest to paint I-Works as an elaborate fraud.

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The Real Story.

I-Works entered a market in which it had no previous experience.  There was an ongoing learning experience dealing with unclear regulations. I-Works was continually striving to do the very best, in an ever-changing business market, to ensure that the consumer was fully aware of what they were purchasing and given every opportunity to have a satisfied experience.

The FTC, in its own published workshop, admits that:  “…users click through WebPages quickly, without paying much attention because they want to complete a given transaction…as a result…users do not read…the terms of agreements they enter into online.”    -FTC Negative Option Conference, 2007

The accusation that we are scammers is false.

The accusation that any of our clients were ever defrauded is false.

The Demand that all of the top employees in the company turn in a list of all of their personal assets because the FTC will be coming to take everything we own including our homes, personal belongings, and then ban us from ever working in what we have learned over the last 8 years is draconian and we need help to stop an out of control government agency that has let its power go to its head.

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  • Jack said:

    “The FTC, in its own published workshop, admits that: “…users click through WebPages quickly, without paying much attention because they want to complete a given transaction…as a result…users do not read…the terms of agreements they enter into online.” -FTC Negative Option Conference, 2007

    So I thnk even a non-so-shrewdish newbie like me can see that if you put that with the “put the disclossure within the vicinity the order button” talking point they talked about then I can come to the conclusion:

    put that disclosure-text realy really, really close to the order button where the quick-readers won’t be missing the disclosure-text and…

    - NOT UNDER the order button
    - NOT UNDER some sort of giant arrow-thing pointint to the order button
    - NOT in some tiny little font

    No, no, no, no, no!

    Put it really, really, really clearly like right ABOVE the order button where nobody ever could may even ever, ever, ever miss it. NEVER.

    but then where would the money for the poor-people-of-philantrhopy be? :-(

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    FTS Reply:

    The FTC are quite rightly taking action against this bottom feeder. How do we inform the FTC of the Syndicate’s wrongdoing?

    Let’s not forget that there are others who are just as deserving of your attention Salty.

    FTS = Fuck The Syndicate!

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    Jack Reply:

    @FTS, http://saltydroid.info/complaints/

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  • Rafael Marquez said:

    That text reads like the gnome’s letter.

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    SD Reply:

    @Rafael Marquez ::

    Gnome context for new Utah readers …

    http://saltydroid.info/of-gnomes-and-robots/

    … watch your back Jason M. Jones

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  • Chris said:

    His justification for scamming innocent people-sorry his exemplary business practices and innocence-really is an insult to intelligence. I hope this crook goes down and goes down hard. He deserves no mercy. When are the other Utah scam merchants going to get their reckoning?

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    Jack Reply:

    @Chris, sociopaths i think eventually forget that not everyone believes them is what I think, maybe.

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    Chris Reply:

    @Jack, I think you are onto something. Probably derives from their overblown/out of control ego and inflated sense of what their “mission” is. “How could I be guilty, I am helping people after all, it is all lies, I am the victim here”. No matter what it looks like/what the evidence suggests their motives and conduct really is, everything is above board and is sound. Nothing to see here folks, LOL.

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    SD Reply:

    @Jack ::

    ha!

    It sounded so good to him when he was telling the mirror …

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  • michael webster said:

    I like this a lot – good save, SD. This is exactly the sort of nonsense a good attorney skilled in cross-examination will want to read. (It conveniently misses out defending the number of charge backs which got I-Works shut out of the normal merchant credit.)

    The line is lovely isn’t it: the rules were so unclear, I felt compelled to cheat.
    I also like JJ’s desire to toss his legal supporters under the bus, also.

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    SD Reply:

    @michael webster ::

    “Your Honor, I’d just like to point out that everyone else was doing it. I rest my case.”

    I like this part …

    “Suddenly, and without any notice we found ourselves in the cross hairs of the FTC when on February 26, 2010 we received a 47 paged Civil Investigative Demand, asking us for every document that we could produce from January 1, 2006 to present.”

    Paraphrase == Suddenly, and without any notice, we were put on notice.

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  • Jimmy Ray said:

    Would love to see more regarding Shartloaf’s involvement.

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    SD Reply:

    @Jimmy Ray ::

    Well then … you’re in luck.

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @SD,

    Funny, I had a feeling I would be.

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  • SD (author) said:

    Tweet tweet ::

    http://twitter.com/ShurtleffStinks

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    Jack Reply:

    @SD, LOL!

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    what?? Reply:

    @SD,

    Nice!

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    Cosmic Connie Reply:

    @SD, I’m a follower!

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    Dave Reply:

    Giraffes FTW!

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  • SD (author) said:

    Anyone else notice that comment trolls are downtrending?

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    what?? Reply:

    @SD,

    Yeah. I was wondering whatever happened to “Stacy”, who commented on January 14th that the FTC had told Jeremy “straight to his face” that they had no case against him. But I guess that was before they froze all of his assets so….

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @what??,

    lulz

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  • Chris said:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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    Jack Reply:

    @Chris, I think this must be more of the covert communications maybe – it’s probably a comment about pickle sauce is what I figured now so far about it.

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    Cosmic Connie Reply:

    @Jack, Actually, your response to @Chris’ comment made much more sense than mine. It must have come in while I was still typing away. I don’t know why I take some of these folks seriously. Well, I guess someone has to play the straight person in these comedy routines. I don’t mind doing it once in a while.

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    Cosmic Connie Reply:

    @Chris, First off, thank you for your service. Second of all, it’s true that government bureaucracies can be enormously frustrating, that big corporations have done their share of looting and plunder, and that even though our politicians pay lip service to the idea that small business is the backbone of America, many forces conspire against the small business owner. It IS hard to get ahead. I can’t see that it’s possible to lay the blame at the feet of any one faction, though, so I guess I don’t have to worry about Gitmo.

    That said, I don’t think “The Government” is a monolithic being whose sole reason for existence is to crush the little guy. That may be the result in some cases — perhaps too many cases — but do you honestly think it’s the case with Jeremy Johnson and some of the other hucksters Salty rips on?

    Although I’ve argued consistently against more government regulations, I think some of the existing regulations honestly do protect consumers if they are enforced. I may be reading more into your comment than you intended, but, again… are you suggesting that people such as Jeremy Johnson (or my favorite target, Kevin True-dough) are just good honest bidnessmen who are being oppressed by the big bad government? That is certainly the spin those guys put on it. True-dough in particular has gotten a lot of mileage out of his “me versus the government” drama. In fact, it’s become another marketing tool for him.

    It seems to me that members of the IM Syndicate whom Salty has written about are using their own troubles with the FTC, or at least their gripes about the new regulations, as marketing tools as well. They’re also capitalizing on the growing anti-government sentiment, pretending, once again, that they’re on the side of the little guy or gal. But it would appear that most of them are only on his/her side until his/her credit card is maxed out. And even though they may not be plundering on the almost unimaginable scale of Bernie Madoff or certain greedy multinational corporations, I think that what they’re doing is just as wrong.

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    Jack Reply:

    @Cosmic Connie, You can make the more balanced view of mr. C’s post which yes i think his comment has some sense and some nonsense with it i think, but when I can have an advocate of an idea that is making a statement like

    “From my perspective, when someone has a great idea and becaomes wildly successful from it, especially when they did NOT come from money, the Government destroys it out of jealousy that they did not come up with the idea themselves.”

    I then want to go reach for the pickle sauce and not have the advocate for me anymore.

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    SD Reply:

    @Chris ::

    I have a prescription {that “they” don’t want you to know about} for what ails you {ignorance}.

    Ready?

    Read more … talk less.

    Give that a try and then call me back in a decade.

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    Chris Reply:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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    Jack Reply:

    @Chris, “just because someone sees the big picture”…

    Q.E.D.?

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    what?? Reply:

    @Chris,

    All anyone has to do is read any of your previous comments here to know that being a conspiracy nut is the least of your problems.

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    Jack Reply:

    @what??, Conspiracy theorists are just a front for SOMETHING BIG COMING DOWN!

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @what??,

    Yup!

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @Jimmy Ray,

    In reference to Chris being a few fries short of a happy meal…

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    Wannabe Producer Reply:

    @Chris,

    I totally agree with you.

    In fact, yesterday I was having tea with Jesus and he told me that Cheyney and Halliburton are conspiring to use common household cleaners like Windex in a plan to overthrow the government of Nanjubar.

    Their target date is 11/12/11… just to throw us all off. On 11/11/11 you’ll be all “hey everything’s cool” and then BLAMO! here come the black helicopters and the parachuting pygmies.

    That’s why I’m stocking up on my emergency food supply. You should too. Just use my affiliate link below and you’ll get my exclusive free upgrade – a year’s underground supply of freeze dried marshmallows. Nothing says apocalypse in a Bunker like freeze dried s’mores, ya know?

    Thank you. And God bless America.

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    Me Too Reply:

    @Chris,
    That may be true in many cases, but not in the case of Jeremy Johnson.

    1. Jeremy sold a worthless product, made millions.
    2. Jeremy has a track record of dishonesty.
    3. Jeremy Lives a live of gluttony, then does humanitarian work to look good. He steals from the Poor, and gives back to the poor.. Ironic?Yes.
    4. Jeremy of ALL people has done a decent job of brown nosing the Government..
    A. Hes Tight friends with the AG. Hes been able to avoid state investigations that way.
    B. He flew the St. George Police Dept to his house boat for a huge party.
    C. He funded the Washington County Sheriffs campaign. (recently put in office) Anyone that looks closly at this guy knows hes crooked. Living in Southern Utah, Ive known several that have worked for him at all levels.
    D. Hes friends with all of the search and rescue guys..

    The Government has a REAL case against this guy.. And he should be taken down. If anyone knows how to make friends with the Government, he does.. But you can only brown nose your way out of trouble so far.. But the facts are the facts.. Hes not honest.. I being LDS and terribly embarrassed of him.. Im sick of Utahs reputation for these sorts..

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    Dave Reply:

    @Chris, I’m curious. If you are a veteran, how did you only serve for “10 months”? How does that make what you have to say carry any more weight than anyone else?

    Being critical of the US Government is one of those great freedoms guaranteed by the constitution. A side effect of that freedom is being able to spout off with all kinds of garbage about conspiracies and big brother. If you did serve in the military, you of all people should know that giving our government credit for maintaining any kind of conspiracy is ludicrous. Inter-agency politics alone guarantee no large-scale conspiracy will ever hold up.

    Oil – ah yes, the big bad oil demon. Unfortunately, we depend on it to maintain our standard of living. I used to love the “no blood for oil” slogans. If we are not willing to fight to maintain the resources we need to fuel our economy, then what do we do? I agree that the pretenses used to invade Iraq were hokey. I despise Cheney and Rumsfeld. That said, Iraq was a MAJOR threat to regional stability in the Middle East, and Saddam was one evil bastard. Our failure to plan for the successful end was a travesty, and for that, I too blame Messrs Bush and Rumsfeld, however, there was no conspiracy involved to start a war just so Halliburton could make millions. Lots of other defense contractors made just as much, if not more, money than KBR. KBR had been in the government contracting business a long time, and just happened to be the first ones ready to take advantage of the contracting opportunities that the aftermath presented. Many others quickly followed suit, and a whole lot of small business owners quickly got rich off of that war. The company I worked for went from a $7M/year contractor to almost $300M/year in 6 years. The infamous Blackwater was almost broke and about to close their training facility when the war started. I could name countless other start-ups, and existing small businesses that grew to multi-million dollar companies as a result of lucrative contracts. What would you have had them do? Say no, I am not going to pursue the opportunity to make money and grow my company because Cheney is a dick?

    Afghanistan – what are you implying? The US is controlling opium production? Have you been here? That is the most ridiculous thing you could think. While I don’t agree with our approach here, the practical reasons for not allowing Afghanistan to become a haven for extremist training camps again is overwhelming. We have an obligation, driven by our piss-poor historical treatment of the region, to attempt to bring stability and economic viability to both Afghanistan and Pakistan. I just hope we have the stomach to stick with it for the generations it will take to achieve that goal.

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    Jenny/Chris Reply:

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    Ryan Reply:

    @Jenny/Chris, WTF is with the bizarre dual identity? Male AND female?? Are you having sexual orientation confusion? I guess at your trailer, one’s a party. You aren’t armed are you?

    I am formally reporting your web site to the FTC and Opec. You need to be looked at closely by The Government, as well as The Powers That Be (TPTB). And sorry, there’s no way I would believe any testimonial from you for the Hair Club for Men (H.C.F.M.), so don’t even think about it.

    We’ll be watching the FTC web site for your name and mug shot.

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    Dave Reply:

    Dear Jenny, I am in no way implying you were not in Iraq for however long. I am simply asking what happened to your other 3 – 4 years of service that are usually required for any enlistee. saying “I served my country for 10 months” is a strange way to put it. Most of us would say “I served my country for 23 years and spent 10 months in Iraq (Kuwait is a country club, so why even mention it?).

    I fucking live in Afghanistan, so don’t even think you can lecture me on why we are here.

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    James Reply:

    @Dave, I think when Chris says he “served his country,” he really just sold roasted camel nuts off a roadside stand. Then, of course, he sold so many roasted camel nuts that his success got the attention of the FTC and he was shipped back home to mother, who he lives with today, selling $2 reports on how to sell $2 reports.

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    Anna Reply:

    @Dave, absolutely agreed. My husband spent 6 years in the Navy. His brother, 4+ years. He has a friend, also a Dave who is no longer in the military, but works in Afghanistan most of the time. My friend Matt, who also served in Afghanistan recently finished up his obligation with the Army. Chris/Jenny seems clueless.

    Beyond the comments on this post, regardless of the topic, I always appreciate seeing your insightful comments. Take care.

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    Shit Storm Reply:

    @Chris,

    So your argument is this piece of shit is being targeted by the government and you are free from protest because you served for 10 months?

    How big was the bus you took to school?

    He hyped a get rich quick scheme (that didn’t work) to unsuspecting people and made millions…and then instead of making his scheme actually work he put all his energies into making sure he insulted the scam with BS tactics to show he was “trying” to be compliant

    Tell me chris…why didn’t he just scale those get rich quick ideas and use all that money to help the poor

    Why create a course?

    I’ll tell you why…he’s a modern day shovel salesman…runs thru the street yelling gold was found in the river then sells the shovels to go digging

    why not just use the shovel…BECAUSE THERE’S NO GOLD

    He deserves a lifetime of prison rapings not you defending him

    All due respect of course because you served

    BTW most guys who served never bring up the fact that they servedp…and if you served you know fucking why

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  • Jenny said:

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    what?? Reply:

    @Jenny,

    My, Jenny, you look an awful lot like Chris. And you also have the same name as he does. Weird.

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    SD Reply:

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    Same IP too … what a strange coincidence.

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    Jack Reply:

    @SD, Covert! oh, wait…NOT covert…

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    Jenny/Chris Reply:

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    Ryan Reply:

    @Jenny/Chris, What traffic?

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @Ryan,

    At one point I thought someone was impersonating Christoper Mollo and clicked on the link in his name to let the idiot on the other end know. It turns out they’re the same, but he’s forgotten to link his website to his name, so-much for him getting back links from his last few insane ramblings. And anyway, even if he did, I couldn’t imagine anyone would want to buy resell right products from him just for the rights to resell them again. What a douche!

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @SD,

    Chris Turned into Jenny/Chris then to Jenny right before our eyes. Fastest sex change ever.

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    Shit Storm Reply:

    @Jenny,

    No the issue is he hyped a get rich quick scheme (that didn’t work) to unsuspecting people and made millions…and then instead of making his scheme actually work he put all his energies into making sure he insulated the scam with BS tactics to show he was “trying” to be compliant

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  • wtf? said:

    This guy is a D – bag without question.

    But, he’s getting his…

    I like it when you go after guys who
    are worried they will be next

    You’re sexier when you do that :)

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    SD Reply:

    @wtf? ::

    Nope!

    1. This is just an FTC suit … they are going to take back all the money that already didn’t belong to him. That’s not really him “getting his”. But maybe if people are pitching a fit about this bullshit … then he actually will get his.

    2. Utah is a key part of IM :: MLM :: and SelfHelp.

    … so just keep your pants on.

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    Mee Too Reply:

    @SD,
    At this point, yes.. but as they unpeal the onion, they will find fraud and laundering, which will turn into criminal. The IRS will take a peak too.

    My bet? 2-4 years in federal prison by the time this thing is done

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    SD Reply:

    @Mee Too ::

    I was hoping for more like 20 – 40 … but maybe we could compromise

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  • Chris said:

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    SD Reply:

    @Chris ::

    Check this shit out …

    1. You know I can see how many people click through right? It’s usually zero.

    2. Oops I just deleted 100% of your links … and all future links. Gosh it’s easy to do stuff with a database. Thank you computers.

    3. Maybe I will do a post on you … but I think I’ll wait until after you make your first sale.

    Toodles.

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    Jenny/Chris Reply:

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    Investigator 112 Reply:

    @Jenny/Chris, Why do you still live with your mommy, Chris? I got your file from the illuminati and it shows you still live at home at age 36. What do you do, sit around all day, waxing your head? Oh, and sorry about your asperger’s.

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @Investigator 112,

    Funny cuz I didn’t even need the Loominati. I just asked Big Brother. Him told me everything about Chris.

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    Dave Reply:

    @SD, Wow, so much for the drop in troll traffic. Is this dickhead for reals?

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    Jack Reply:

    @SD, what about if it could be even more hilarious by putting in this link for mr. C instead:
    http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/05/rescue.shtm

    because not all people have been “searching for years” about him.

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    Dave Reply:

    @Jack, Wow. Nice find Jack. $2,791,040.40? That’s a lot of “making bank.” So Ms. Jenny is nothing but a scammer herself. Very nice.

    I wonder, since his settlement amount was suspended “based on his inability to pay.” Can the FTC lift that suspension now that he is making a ton of money off of his stupid comments and is a rich MoFo?

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @Dave,

    Christopher Tomasulo aka Dr (not a real one) Sulo aka Christopher Tomalooser and Chris M (Jenny) are two different people.

    Tomalooser is a real scammer. Chris M is a wanna be one.

    Tomalooser will post her from time to time linking his covert communications website. Hims a master in language patterns and neuro-linguistic programming, a tool that scammers are largely attracted to (like Krank Fern, Harlan Cuntstein, and others IM’rs).

    Apparently Tomalooser, the dude in the link that Jack gave you, was consulting for a company that pulled some credit card and grant scam schemes. I don’t know the details, but Jack seems up to speed.

    Chris M aka Jenny sells “how-to-get-rick” books that he bought resell rights too…how original.

    What a tool!

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    Dave Reply:

    @Jimmy Ray, Ah! Got it. Thanks. What with Big Brother controlling my brain, it’s just so confusing at times. Maybe I can get Maria Andros to loan me some of the garbage people in her head to help me out (_cartman_, where have you been?).

    Then it’s not unreasonable for me to think Ms. Jenny’s a poser WRT him/her being a veteran?

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    _cartman_ Reply:

    @Dave,

    Hey Dave….hope all is well…I’ve been a little silent on the comments front, but I have been reading all the posts [[and comments]] of what has been transpiring in Scamelot [[aka the internet]]…

    You guys are handling the new [[and resident]] trolls brilliantly, so I am just sitting back enjoying… :)

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    James Reply:

    @Jack, Actually, that’s a different Chris. The Chris here lives with his mommy in Arizona.

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    scammed Reply:

    @SD,

    Props on the link-deleting thing. Chris/Jenny was a nasty man/woman. Sigh. I think I love you, Salty.

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    208-577-6210 Reply:

    @Chris, I’d watch out if I were you – the government knows about all those transactions!!! The CPA networks, the merchant account providers, government…they’re all in it together! I’d get out of the making-money-online business if I were you – it’s a setup!

    I’m one of the 2% of the population who ‘know’ (but can’t provide any proof here, obviously). You wouldn’t believe the things I know about the American government:

    1) Some politicians have cosy relationships with companies…
    2) The government appoint a shady agency (known internally as ‘the IRS’), with the explicit aim of collecting money from American citizens…
    3) American soldiers have been sent all over the world, but are currently present (in large numbers!!) in Afghanistan and Iraq…
    4) Insiders tell me that some American officials dislike President Sarkozy, but say that his wife is ‘pretty hot’…
    5) The Government has secretly split the country into 50 ‘states’, each tasked with further administrative and governmental functions that are too horrific to go into…

    I could go on, but they’re coming!!

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    Dave Reply:

    @208-577-6210, That’s funny right there, I don’t care who you are.

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @Chris,

    Dummy, you keep forgetting to link your URL, or maybe is it more sinister than that? Has Big Brother figured out you’re reporting his internet activities and has de-linked all your blog comments?
    Bwahahaahhaaaa

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    Uncle Roy Reply:

    @Jimmy Ray, Chris WAS posting his links, but somehow, they must be those self-expiring 2 second links, because they all vanished… :)

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @Uncle Roy,

    I think that validates his theory…the loominati clearly have his #

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  • Mudrake said:

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    Jack Reply:

    @Mudrake, so many of you have found ways to be even more repugnant than Jeremy Johnson.

    Q.E.D.! – (again)

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    Jack Reply:

    @Mudrake, It’s that amazing you are a bright shiny yellow apple.

    Q.E.D.!

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    SD Reply:

    @Jack ::

    It’s a Q.E.D. pandemic!

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    what?? Reply:

    @Mudrake,

    Your comment doesn’t make much sense. The “alleged” ill-gotten money was not at the end of a rainbow somewhere. It wasn’t a long lost pirate treasure. It was scammed from someone’s parent, someone’s sibling, someone’s child, someone’s friend. It doesn’t matter what he does with the money! Is it ok that I steal from your mom as long as I do something good with a small percentage of the amount I stole?

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    a peters Reply:

    @what??, another weazil but at least he’s not preaching the Lord God let me do it to everyone like some people.

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    Jimmy Ray Reply:

    @Mudrake,

    you have work to do

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    Murlu Reply:

    @Mudrake, mmmmm metaphorical feces – so delicious

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  • Fake Blogger said:

    SD,

    Check this shit out….
    Chris/Jenny is/are a douche bag(s)

    Please keep Him/Her/Them in mind as an Anthony Award finalist.
    Where do we get our ballots?

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  • Waldo said:

    Right on JACK!! The FTC is forever guilty of just plain being vague when it comes to their specifically explaining their guidelines…

    Jack, I think this is a brilliant suggestion on your part of where to place the “Disclosure Text.” Place the Button using Big Bold Letters “ABOVE the order button” where nobody could never miss it, Not even Me!!

    Maybe to go even one step further in a sudden flash of insight I just had… When they click on the Order Button, a Disclosure Text page opens up so people could never say they didn’t see it…

    Maybe they didn’t read it still, but people couldn’t say they didn’t see the text…I suspect this would even please the FTC though probably not!!

    Jack, I think you’re onto something here and I gotta say this is one great piece of insight on your part… I don’t know how you got to be so smart, but I want to be more like you. :)

    Keep up the good work Jack,

    Your friend,

    Waldo

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  • Anonymous said:

    Jeremy Johnson was arrested over the weekend.

    http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2011/jun/12/las-vegas-high-roller-fraud-lawsuit-figure-arreste/

    “The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Salt Lake City announced the arrest of Jeremy D. Johnson of St. George, Utah, by IRS agents. A spokeswoman said Johnson was arrested at a Phoenix airport while en route to Costa Rica, where the government believes Johnson has business interests.”

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  • » Evil FTC dot Gov said:

    [...] he told us about how he couldn’t be guilty because Utah’s very own Attorney General was on his side [...]

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  • Control said:

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    Wyrd Reply:

    @Control,

    Great comment! But please don’t post twice with two different names. It makes you look lame.

    Also your comment would have been less non-sequitur if you had placed it here.

    Furry cows moo and decompress.

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    Lanna Reply:

    @Wyrd,

    I think the best part about these twin comments is that the username URLS – both ftc.com – redirect instantaneously to bitly.com’s soothing, “♥ your bitmarks” home page. LOVE indeed.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @Wyrd, So you need to sequester all the comments that go against the “hate” that this site is all about. I’ll bet, in your everyday boring life you actually hate successful people. You wish you could be one of them but you realize you never can because you are a broken down, low life who takes pleasure in leading the anti-rich cheer like a girl in a cheer leading squad. Good move Poindexter

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    Wyrd Reply:

    @,
    The only one spewing hate and negativity at the moment is you.

    And what’s up with that anyway? What happened to get you all pissed of?

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  • FTC said:

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    Anonymous Reply:

    @FTC,

    Yes, to think is unthinkable

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    Random stuff Reply:

    @FTC, I think you might have brain cramp. Try reading this site a little more. You seem to have started to master sarcasm. Next step might be irony. You can then move on to humor. Advanced courses on reading between the lines can be purchased from my Biz Ops website, and you will make millionz.

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