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ftw said:
Josh Ann is hard at work. So are the droids.
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# 17 June 2010 at 4:54 pm

terry Hall said:
Such a cute couple… Looks like Josh may be packing some wood. I’m just saying.
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MazeMan Reply:
June 18th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
@terry Hall,
The water bottle was supposed to be positioned a little more to the right to hide that fact.
I’m just wondering why they are in the bathroom, sitting fully clothed in an empty bathtub?
Perhaps they plan to manifest the water by way of the water bottle. Tip the bottle over the tub and the unlimited universal mind will cause an unlimited abundance of water to spill out.
And since you control the universe, when the tub is full, tilt the bottle upright and the water will stop.
Guess that’s what JAR means by universal ebb and flow. Does that make him a plumber? I’d hate to see his universal crack.
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terry Hall Reply:
June 18th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
@MazeMan, Too funny. I’m a simple southern boy so I don’t know from “universal ebb & flow”. I do know about In & Out Urges and my WAG is that they’re both waiting for the JAR to get there and have his way with them both with some testosterone induced, herpes spreading Harmonic Humping.
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# 17 June 2010 at 5:05 pm

Jean D said:
Droid it would be a wonderful dream if Sheryl would assist with the investigation and Colleen’s case could be reopened. I hope it comes true.
P.S. Check out Nancy Ogilvie on Twitter.She’s posted side-by-side pics of the how DeathRay repeatedly mimicked Tony Robbins. Creepy.
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Matt Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
@Jean D,
DAMN… !
PS: Look how EVIL j.a.r. looks in the “monochomatic headshot” picture!
Well, he kind of looks evil in EVERY picture so that’s not really saying much.
Anyway, here’s the link:
Have a great wknd DROID!
Matt
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Jean D Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
@Matt, In the casualathome you can see how JAR used to have the same facial hair effect as Robbins. What a poser!
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# 18 June 2010 at 10:35 pm

Karbo said:
Good stuff…but this blog is slowly getting 1 dimensional with the constant postings about Death Ray…
It’s time to shift focus onto the other “gurus” like Kern, Deiss, Jenkins etc…and the newly inducted member – Brandon Burchard..
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SD Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 2:12 am
@Karbo ::
One dimensional awesomeness … believe it!!
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Yakaru Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 2:55 am
@Karbo,
Go for it, mate. Set up a blog and hound those creeps to their grave. Really, do it!
Droid covers Death Ray so much because there’s a) so much to cover, and b) because that sod and his henchpersons deserve plenty more than just the public exposure they get here.
@ Terry & Mazeman,
If they really are waiting for their pox ridden master to join them, bathing with clothes on and without water is probably the only smart move Josh has ever made.
@ Sheryl
Well done for leaving (if that’s really what happened). The next step isn’t so hard. Good luck with it.
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Ultra Valerian Reply:
June 21st, 2010 at 8:42 pm
@Yakaru, In addition to what you said, there’s a very specific legal clock running on Ray (which is not to say that there won’t be delays).
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Kann Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 7:14 am
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*Yawn*
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Clappy Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
“Kann” (con): Good to see you bored and preoccupied right here, instead of out promoting scammers and scamming people. You’re OCD, aren’t you? Wait, don’t answer that, only your mother gives a shit and even that’s debatable.
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Kann Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
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@Clappy,
Whoa, brought my mom into it. How low can you go?
OCD would be interesting, but nope, no OCD here Mr. Clappy Clap “I have the clap” clapman clap.
*claps*
I think it’s funny how a *yawn* comment would spark so much rage in your little heart, and cause you to toss insults at someone you don’t even know.
But, I am glad to see it did, because that means my job is done. It also caused enough rage to get 6 votes down, w00t.
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Hippo Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
@Kann,
Well, if you’re so bored, why are you here?
I’m a little obsessive about this blog myself, but I consider it time well spent.
Personally, I can’t understand why anyone would find Mr. Salty to be dull, but maybe I’m just dense.
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Kann Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
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@Hippo,
Can’t even give a good answer to that really, just don’t like seeing people get bashed for…well, essentially, no reason at all…
It’s the same bullshit over and over and over again.
*Yawn*
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# 18 June 2010 at 11:46 pm

Kann said:
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Hey, if I drop dead while reading saltydroid.info, can I (my dead corpse) and my family hold you liable for the death?
I mean, I know there’d be a magnificent celebration for it and all your wildest dreams coming true, but was wondering if you’d be willing to do jail time for it as well?
Because that doesn’t seem fair does it…I’m here on my own will, on my own time. You didn’t grab me and force me to come here or anything.
So why should “DeathRay” be held liable for something someone else did on their own will, on their own time?
“Authorities said participants were highly encouraged but not forced to remain in the sweat lodge for the entire time.”
^ From a news article.^, So they weren’t forced into doing anything…
and if your main complaint is refunds…well, do you get a refund is you go bungie jumping and die? Do you get a refund if you go skydiving and die? Do you get a refund if you cut your head of with a lawnmower if you die? How about if I accidentally blow my head off with a gun while loading it? Do I get to pull my money out of the basket if I die while in church…and what if I choke on a piece of meat at a restaurant? What if a personal trainer pushes their client hard and the client has a heart attack?
And no, I don’t bop on JAR’s dick, I’m not one of his ‘henchman’. I’m just a casual observer playing ‘devil’s advocate’ here…I really do want to know what it is you’re going on about, and so far it seems pretty hollow.
I mean, really, a freaking email is breaking news?
I don’t hardly know anything about the guy, really…you’re the stalker (sorry, ‘researcher’) that finds all this stuff to make some linkbait. So I did a quick search on Google and found a few news articles and bio..but that’s about it.
He runs a business…and he may even think of it as more than just that. Whether or not you think that business is valuable or not is up to you and the customers…and even then, YOU ARE NOT HIS TARGET MARKET. Reminds me of religion in a lot of ways, but that’s a different story. From my (not-so-researched) understanding, he’s a guy who is trying to motivate and help people achieve their goals…and he’s not the ONLY one.
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SD Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
@Kann ::
*Yawn*
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Kann Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
@SD, awesome reply, thought-provoking
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Kann Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
@Kann,
I’m at -13 votes… must be doing something right.
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Clappy Reply:
June 19th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
@Kann, That must have taken you half an hour to verbalize if you could call it that. Too bad most won’t bother reading past your first few pretentious sentences. Pretty funny thinking about how your obsession keeps you coming back here again and again like a moth to a light bulb. Does your warden know what you do during “internet hour?” LOL.
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Kann Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
@Clappy, Har har
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froylein Reply:
June 20th, 2010 at 2:10 am
@Kann, the catch is that an advocatus diaboli generally is a highly educated person (post-grad degree, at least five languages fluently spoken and written as is the minimum requirement for Vatican officials, but that just as an aside) that strives to expose all facets in the life of a person in the process of canonisation. An advocatus diaboli’s task is it to expose anything bad about a person thst can be found and then to argue his findings with the advocatus fidei, faith’s advocate.
Rest assured that neither side will fall for the poor dialectics of employing lacking analogies in their respective argumentation.
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Kann Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
@froylein, Don’t use big words on me, I don’t have a law degree (WITH HONORS ZOMG!) like salty here.
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 20th, 2010 at 3:18 am
@Kann,
Your “reasoning” (in your first three paragraphs) is so fucking inane, I have to question if you aren’t already dead…I have heard fucked up reasoning before…but it at least maintained some semblance of reasoning…unlike what you uttered…
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“So why should “DeathRay” be held liable for something someone else did on their own will, on their own time?”
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Well quite simply (as shown by the “results”), the conditions they were exposed to were adverse enough to cause hyperthermia (leading to death in three cases). This is not a matter of people having an “adverse reaction” (like your theoretical death was), this is a matter of dangerous conditions that they were exposed to, while in the “care” of James Ray.
Furthermore, when a person goes into a state of hyperthermia, blood pressure drops and hyppoxia ensues. The lack of oxygen causes symptoms akin to intoxication, such as dizziness, confusion, vomiting, unconsciousness, seizures, coma, and eventually death (much like your reasoning).
They may have went in of their own free will (I won’t debate that, since it isn’t an issue), but the conditions were such that “logical reasoning” to come out, were in most likely hood impaired by those very conditions. Safeguards to ensure safety were the responsibility of the “coordinator”, and should have been in place to prevent (or at least alert to) any dangerous conditions.
It shouldn’t take a genius to know that 60+ people in a small (relatively speaking) enclosed space covered by black tarps absorbing sunlight (first law of thermodynamics; conservation of energy) would not require a “shitload” of hot rocks to raise the temperature above safe levels (especially to James Ray who claims to know about quantum mechanics…fuck me….I laughed when I wrote that). Not to mention that they (James Ray and his team that was dreaming) were alerted to the dangerous conditions that existed at the half-way mark, when they had to drag Dennis out after he lost consciousness (and maybe the vomiting that ensued should have been a further clue to his dreaming team).
hey…he’s unconscious…is that bad??…well let deduce..it’s 115 degrees outside, and we are in a little room covered with black tarps (which is absorbing visible light and converting it to infrared radiation)…we are taking hot rocks pouring water over them….and increasing the humidity of this trapped hot air….thus lowering the evaporative cooling effect of sweat…hmmm….nope doesn’t appear to be a problem…butt…just in case….I’ll stay right here next to the door….
As to the rest of your post…well…it just became more colorful with each analogy you presented. I have to admit….you did make a very good point….that point….well…that if you were any fucking stupider, someone would have to dress you in the morning (if they don’t already)…
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Ultra Valerian Reply:
June 21st, 2010 at 8:55 pm
@_cartman_, I had to take a break to laugh when you mentioned the thing about James Ray and quantum mechanics.
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Kann Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
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@_cartman_,
“”"Your “reasoning” (in your first three paragraphs) is so fucking inane, I have to question if you aren’t already dead…I have heard fucked up reasoning before…but it at least maintained some semblance of reasoning…unlike what you uttered…”"”
Good thing you put reasoning in quotes…because it wasn’t really reasoning..it was more of crazy analogies to get people thinking. Nice job on disassembling my ‘reasoning’ though…wait you didn’t, you simply bashed it and chalked it off as nothing.
“”"Well quite simply (as shown by the “results”), the conditions they were exposed to were adverse enough to cause hyperthermia (leading to death in three cases). This is not a matter of people having an “adverse reaction” (like your theoretical death was), this is a matter of dangerous conditions that they were exposed to, while in the “care” of James Ray.
Furthermore, when a person goes into a state of hyperthermia, blood pressure drops and hyppoxia ensues. The lack of oxygen causes symptoms akin to intoxication, such as dizziness, confusion, vomiting, unconsciousness, seizures, coma, and eventually death (much like your reasoning). “”"
All fine and dandy, but they did so on their own free will. It’s a freakin sweat lodge for Christ’s sake, what do you expect? A pilot can’t be held responsible for a skydiver who’s parachute doesn’t open, right? (oh jeez my horrible ‘reasoning’ again!)
“”"They may have went in of their own free will (I won’t debate that, since it isn’t an issue), “”"”
Actually, yeah, that is the exact issue. Had it been forced, I’d be singing a much different tune.
“”"As to the rest of your post…well…it just became more colorful with each analogy you presented. I have to admit….you did make a very good point….that point….well…that if you were any fucking stupider, someone would have to dress you in the morning (if they don’t already)…”"”
Awesome, a Southpark character is hating on me now. (I dress myself and can tie my own shoes too!-impressive, I know)
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
@Kann,
“Good thing you put reasoning in quotes…because it wasn’t really reasoning..it was more of crazy analogies to get people thinking. Nice job on disassembling my ‘reasoning’ though…wait you didn’t, you simply bashed it and chalked it off as nothing.”
Hey rainman, what you were attempting to do was “analogical reasoning”. And you are correct, it in no way resembled reasoning (hence the quotes).
Now go fuck yourself.
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Jean D Reply:
June 20th, 2010 at 10:23 am
@Kann, Reading your statements in which you want to excuse these senseless deaths, makes me wonder if you’re not a killer, or wannabe,who wishes you had been the one to realize the crime of cooking other humans.
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Kann Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
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@Jean D,
Yep, that’s ME!
*rolls eyes*
Still no reasoning here
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Hippo Reply:
June 20th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
@Kann,
It’s probably fruitless to try to reason with you.
Please consider reading up on cults, brain-washing, and mind control.
Your analogies are not valid because the person in question would not have been in a lengthy coercive situation prior to engaging in the dangerous act.
Now, you may say that anyone stupid enough to go to a James Ray seminar deserves to die. Do you believe that?
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Kann Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
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@Hippo,
“Now, you may say that anyone stupid enough to go to a James Ray seminar deserves to die. Do you believe that?”
Nope, that’s the same logic as if I said anyone who skydives deserves to die.
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# 19 June 2010 at 7:38 pm

Dave said:
Ahhh, nice to see the trolls are out this weekend. Almost looks like good old Lee Kuan the Kung-fu master again. Not enough stupid hyperbole to be FGCT.
@_cartman_ nicely summarized. Your patience in dealing with the morons amazes me. Must be your ability to see past the garbage people in your phone.
Anywayz…. Sheryl, hope you do the right thing, and that DeathRay didn’t suck your soul dry before you departed his dark company.
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# 20 June 2010 at 7:34 am

Ross Jeffries said:
Is death Ray in this one too?
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxSPL0-oMVQ&feature=related
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# 22 June 2010 at 1:17 am

Jean D said:
Speaking of Joe Vitale & James Ray,here’s a youtube video made by a friar who refers to The Secret as dangerous,a fraud,a sham,and only-for-money. Whether or not you are Christian or Catholic,this guy has valuable insight and even foresight considering he made the video in 07.
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUMrGfZlQjM
Too bad anti-Secret viewpoints weren’t included on Oprah or Larry King.
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stoic Reply:
June 22nd, 2010 at 11:29 am
@Jean D,
Blessed be the truth tellers, no matter what their provenance.
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Ultra Valerian Reply:
June 22nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
@Jean D, as someone who falls somewhere on the continuum between agnosticism and atheism, the priest and I concur until somewhere early in minute nine.
We agree that “The Secret” is a recycled sham dressed up in internet friendly woo-woo. When he was talking about the law of attraction, this made me think about “ideas of reference” as defined by psychiatry and psychology. Sort of attractive on the surface, but ultimately dangerous and wrong.
Pretty nice analysis. I can agree to disagree about what the answer actually is. I was a bit amused that he took his last minute to lump “The Secret” and other new wage teachings in with Wicca and pantheism. Although given his perspective on religion, I guess I’d not expect otherwise.
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Jean D Reply:
June 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
@Ultra Valerian, I don’t think The Secret’s connected to Wicca and pantheism,either. Most wiccans and pantheists aren’t money-driven. This video’s valuable to me because it reveals how there were people who saw the dangers of the Secret years ago.
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Ultra Valerian Reply:
June 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 am
@Jean D, Agreed, both on Wicca and pantheism not being driven by money and about this man seeing and more importantly speaking out about the dangers of the Secret years ago. Too bad the message wasn’t more widely broadcast.
Before the Deathlodge I think I was only vaguely aware of the Secret and not really aware of Ray at all. If I heard someone saying, “The Universe…” in a way that didn’t relate to astrophysics/cosmology, I’d lose interest right away. Basically, I don’t watch Oprah, Larry King, etc. In a previous post, the Droid said that Dateline treated the Sedona story like a shark attack and I think most of the hour long news magazine type programs treat nearly every in depth story like a shark attack. Like they think they’ll lose the viewers’ attention if they don’t sensationalize.
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# 22 June 2010 at 3:21 am

grossmisconduct said:
“The JETs :: like the Dream Team :: were exploited unpaid labor.”
Alarming ….. Do ALL self appointed GURUS do this? I know several that do this and I have also been confronted by one who would denigrate any of his employees who did not want to play full on by working weekends FREE FOR HIM and getting NOTHING FOR IT.
And they wonder why so many ALARM BELLS are now ringing for their hides and justice.
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