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What were you doing on July 25, 2009?
The Salty Droid was sleeping off a 2 day bender of attack blogging :: the results of which marked the beginning of the end of Perry Belcher {fond memories link} :: and the immediate end of my much loved {at least by me} Twitter account.
Greg Hartle {seen here partying like it’s 1999} :: one of the senior staff members at James Ray International :: still had his Twitter account on July 25th and micro-blogged this upbeat gem at 1:54 pm pacific …
“Just witnessed a woman jump several stories down onto pure concrete. I gotta say it was disturbing. I’m sending her my love right now.”
Well Greg :: she’s going to need more than your love. Like just as a for instance :: HER FAMILY COULD USE A FUCKING REFUND :: for all the money your company took from her in order to render her dead. But I’m just throwing that out there … I’m sure your “love” is super valuable too.
Here is the link to the Tweet {oops link} :: but you’ll find you can’t see it because soon after today’s hero @RWRenfrew retweeted the post for truth and posterity :: Greg went into Twitter hiding and made his Twitter account private. I wonder why?
The bus that arrived in the area of the Horton Plaza Mall just after 1:00 pm on July 25th contained Colleen Conaway :: AF Grant and his wife Lori :: James Arthur Ray {probable pig fucker} and his bother {pictured above with his also scammer father} :: Michelle Goulet :: Greg Hartle :: and a boat load of perplexed folks dressed in rags. Walk around and experience the homelessness “full on :: all out :: ra ra” and then come back to the bus no later than 4 pm {PS: Sorry about taking your watches … envision yourself “growing” from a time deadline without a time piece}.
1:43 pm :: Almost immediately after arrival :: Colleen goes over the edge. There are children below waiting to see a Ninja Turtles exhibit :: Nothing could have made Colleen jump in front of those kids. NOTHING. But it wasn’t Colleen at all :: something was very wrong :: 1:43
Eleven minutes later :: at 1:54 :: Greg Hartle whips out his iPhone {because he’s NOT on a spiritual journey via fake homelessness} and tweets about it.
4:00 pm :: The bus departs without Colleen.
8:15 pm :: Michelle Goulet calls Colleen’s phone {which JRI has} and leaves a message pretending to look for Colleen. Fifteen minutes later at 8:30 she calls mall security :: she tells them she brought a group to the mall at 2:00 and that someone is “missing.” She is told of the death and referred to the Medical Examiners office.
10:00 pm :: The Droid previously reported that James Ray staff brought Colleen’s ID and belongings to the ME’s Office. But it seems they didn’t even have the time or decency to do that :: The positive ID was made on Colleen’s body when Michelle faxed over a copy of Colleen’s ID almost eight hours after Greg watched her die.
10:15 pm :: Tina calls Colleen’s cell phone and leaves another fake message :: “Where are you Colleen? Oh that’s right … we just identified your body on the record … well call us back if you get the chance.”
AF Grant :: who I’d still love to talk to {please Andy! I’m nicer than I look} :: reported what he saw to James Ray and to Michelle Goulet :: he was lied to both times. But why didn’t Andy know that Colleen was from the seminar? She :: like he :: was dressed up in rags and looked foolish and out of place. It doesn’t make sense that he wouldn’t notice that. And it doesn’t make sense that mall security didn’t notice. And it doesn’t make sense that the Medical Examiner didn’t ask more questions when an obviously not homeless lady arrived at the morgue costumed as one.
It doesn’t make sense because that’s NOT what happened. The Droid has learned that Colleen was NOT wearing the homelessness costume. She was wearing a black skirt :: yellow tank :: white blouse :: and her Nikes. Apparently our friend Colleen may have made the mistake of resisting the authority of fake-god James Arthur Ray.
AF Grant didn’t recognize Colleen because she didn’t look out of place :: She just looked like a lady in the mall.
But what about Greg Hartle? How could Greg not recognise Colleen when she was in defiance of God? Remember that these aren’t nice people. This whole game is about group conformity and extremist coercion. From one of Cassandra Yorgey’s interviews with a former James Ray event attendee :: Lorena just had her arm broken while playing in one of Ray’s stupid games …
“She was obviously quite shocked and proceeded to the back of the classroom where the James Ray staff blocked her from exiting. She told the staff that her arm was broken and she needed to go to the hospital. The Dream Team told Lorena “Picture yourself playing Tennis” and tried repeatedly to make her sign a release form.”
These assholes play for keeps. Greg and Michelle know what Colleen is wearing :: because it’s their job to make sure Death Ray is not defied :: and that peoples FAT paychecks keep rolling in each week. Colleen’s yellow tank top is a threat to their job security.
What methods were used to try and get Colleen to conform?
Who was responsible for delivering the harshness?
If Colleen didn’t want to participate :: why did they still take her phone and identification?
Was Colleen singled out for abuse on that Saturday morning before the bus headed out?
Someone should tell the robot :: because justice is crying about Colleen :: saltydroid@gmail.com
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{Note: The Droid has reported that the security film from the mall seemed to show that Colleen jumped. That is incorrect :: there is no video.}
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This story is more tragic with each new revelation.
- What the hell did the James Ray people tell Colleen Conaway to try to break her down when she refused to wear the fake ‘homeless’ clothes?
- How badly did they berate her?
- Did James Ray, himself, verbally beat her up in front of the other participants in order to try to force conformity on her and on the group?
- Did James Ray yell at her in front of everyone, as he is wont to do, and call her a ‘loser’ and worse for defying his, um, wisdom?
- Did Colleen Conaway arrive at Horton Plaza on the James Ray bus in her normal street clothes? Would the James Ray organization have even allowed her to do that? Or was she not allowed to get on that bus full of James Arthur Ray ‘homeless’ people in the first place?
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SD Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Most of those questions I can’t answer :: but I would certainly like to hear the answers.
She was on the bus though. That is certain.
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You can see Greg Hartle’s July 25, 1:54pm Twitter post by Googling the following exactly as it appears below:
greghartle concrete
And you can see what James Ray was doing 10 minutes later here:
http://twitter.com/JamesARay/status/2842814951
or by Googling the following sentence as it appears below (which is what he posted at 2:04 pm on July 25:
Eating lunch w/my dream while CAW participants are having a life changing experience.
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Nice work Salty!
rwrenfrew: the googling thing doesn’t work anymore.
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Stay with it SD. The truth will come out.
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so greg hartle is james ray’s dream ????
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Aside from all of the serious issues raised here for a moment – why does Ray have his fingers in his father’s ear?
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Terry Hall @bizsayer Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Probably a wet willy. It’s Ray letting his hair down… cute for a sociopath, don’t cha think.
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You know, it seems like they could bring a RICO case against them…
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SD Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 12:08 am
Someone agrees with you.
http://bizsayer.com/2009/12/11/james-arthur-ray-and-possible-rico-act-case/
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Terry Hall @bizsayer Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
For the good of all, I hope you end up having to buy the drinks :D
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When I dressed up at the homeless exercise I looked quite nice actually. The key was to be one of the first one’s choosing the clothing. I matched my outfit and everything. My sweater was just a little torn, my t shirt was dirty (but covered by the sweater) and the shorts were a little big (but I found some string and made a belt that you couldn’t see because of my sweater). As James says… It’s not about the resources, it’s about the resourcefulness. So even though her clothes don’t sound like those of a homeless person, she could have still be participating in the exercise and playing full on.
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Yakaru Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
How much of an ex employee are you? Do you still talk like normally? Try a bit harder next time, your wig isn’t on straight and the moustache is crooked.
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SD Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
@Ex Employee :: They were her cloths …
You should really try and work on getting “as James says” out of your vocabulary.
Daddy’s been a wicked boy …
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So Michele Goulet, after calling Colleen’s cell phone, decides that the next logical step when a participant is missing is to call mall security. WTF???
Surely any sane (ie not guilty as hell) person would ask the other participants if they had seen her. How did she get the idea that mall security were more likely to know than other participants?
Was Greg Hartle’s twitter “just for the record”, to make it look like he didn’t know it was Colleen? Looks like it to me. Or do people normally twitter about such things? If he was really “sending love” to this person he thought he didn’t know, then why, when he found out he did know her, then why didn’t he feel to contact the family?
All these reactions don’t make any sense to me. Looks to me like they are covering their tracks, and Ray’s tracks. Do loyal helpers get special credit from the godfather? Are they expecting the same kind of loyalty from Ray? (If so, boy are they gonna pay big time if he sees a way he can pin all these deaths on them. He’s got Clinton’s fixer helping him – who have Megan, Tina and Greg got?)
The police now have to investigate this. If they don’t, I think a public campaigne is called for.
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Colleen’s clothes are a non-issue. Plenty of people were just in wrinkled clothes. What I wore was ripped to shreds, but my wife just looked like a sloppy tourist. Actual homeless people in the area (and there were a LOT which is why a bus full of new ones blended in so easy) were even calling out the JRI fakes by the end of the afternoon because they had second hand clothes but new shoes on. All you were supposed to have of your own was your underwear and sneakers.
Anybody could have kept their id or phone on them if they tried. It isn’t like people were searched or anything. If somebody didn’t want to go they simply wouldn’t have gotten on the bus. People weren’t physically forced into anything.
I don’t think you’re gonna find something that JRI did to force Colleen into anything. But I’ve been wrong on what they knew and when already, so I’m done trying to guess.
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SD Reply:
December 11th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
@AF Grant
I’ve seen some pictures … no one looks homeless. Real homeless people have things going on other than low budget cloths. I’d say people looked more silly than homeless.
Maybe people could have kept their phones and ID’s :: But Colleen didn’t.
I agree that guessing is dangerous. Right now {in Colleen’s case specifically} I think we are pointing to the smoke more than the fire. It’s still totally unclear why and how this happened.
But the evidence of a cover up is dramatic and compelling. Innocent people don’t rush to cover things up … and so aggressively. They don’t lie to their friends and customers. They don’t let the party go on as planed. Etc.
Cover-up is a stand alone crime.
Thanks for commenting AF.
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Scott Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Could she have been hypnotized and in her hypnotic state
been commanded to jump by a command word? Is that even possible?
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Salty said it best this IS group conformity and extremist coercion. I have participated and worked for another secret teacher and have experienced the same thing so to everything I read I am constantly say hear-hear! When I challenged beliefs I was berated for it and after leaving that environment and that influence I can see exactly what was happening. It is all extremely deliberate and calculated and with only one end. It is of absolutely no benefit to any other human being to attempt to coerce another UNLESS they are getting something out of it. They are of course, hundreds of thousands of dollars and plenty of food for their egos. I find it galling that these people are permitted to continue without any qualifications or regulations. The effect that they have on other peoples lives is so profoundly damaging that it really never leaves you. As long as I live I will never forget the things I heard and saw.
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http://tinyurl.com/yez3dls
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that fingering of the ear seems to be a masonic hand gesture
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Markus Has a Testicle Fetish Reply:
December 12th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Masonic? No. That’s part of Markus’ special sign language involving his kid’s testicles that he keeps swearing upon here and in Tony Blake’s forum.
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eww wtf why are people swearing upon children’s genitals… sick perverts …so James Ray is into Finger Healing too? Niice. I’m sure that’ll be useful in prison.
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Instead of building people up these guys break them down to manipulate them and they take great joy (and a pocket full of cash) in doing it. At the end of the events they have people eating out their hands (buying everything they tell them to) until a few days later when the effects wear off and REALhoITY sets in. I personally think it is criminal how people can manipulate others just to benefit from it on the pretext of offering something good. That sort of manipulation should be carried out by professionals in a very controlled environment. Not by wannabes and conmen who don’t give a shit about the results for their victims but justify everything they do by preaching God and Jesus. They are absolute hypocrites in every sense who deserve all the justice coming their way slowly and painfully, drip by drip, case by case, life by life. They will wish they were poor again because poor was at least anonymous and much cared for.
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[...] Sending you our love right now, [...]
Hi. I found your article as I researched more info on the Sedonna incident. There are a couple of things I would like to say:
About 8 months ago I participated in an event similar to the one James Ray does. In our case, every other weekend we would meet, follow a series of exercises and as the course was nearing the end, the impositions in my time got bigger and bigger. To give you an example, we were asked to read a book and watch several movies and we were expected to watch the movie together, as a group (which meant in my personal case, driving over an hour to the other side of the island I was living in to watch a movie that I bought in someone else s house). The funny thing was that the course was supposed to be about thinking for yourself, out of the box, etc. Yet, every time you used their own terms and teachings to get out of one of their “homework”, you were wrong. So one day, I got up the courage and decided not to go back. I was happy I did.
As I made some good friends out of the experience, I found out that the lady that ran the company and the training, talked all kinds of trash about me behind my back, even though, one of the rules of the group was to say things to your face and NEVER talk behind your back.
As much as I understand some people don’t like these groups and think that only losers and depressed people seek these kinds of leaders, I don’t agree. I am not sad or depressed nor I consider myself a looser. I am an eternal student and love to learn about other perspectives. That is what attracted me about the course I took and why I check out some of the things these “gurus” have to say.
I know that a lot of people that have personal troubles do seek these teachers. I am not, however, blaming JRI only. We are all responsible for our own experiences. You teach people how you want to be treated. I understand this lady must have had some mental problem and the JRI triggered it that day. That does not mean that they should act like she did not matter, on the contrary, they should treat her with love and respect. We cannot however blame them for killing her. We can blame them for their behavior afterward. We need to learn from these experiences in order to not repeat them in the future.
I don’t pretend to imagine what was going on at this particular event. I guess my message to all your readers is to seek the knowledge that you want, to not judge others for their seeking their own path and to remember to trust your gut, if you don’t like something, walk away. I did, and I am happy for doing so.
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[...] gone. Forever. An ever present :: to a never present. Six days after the death of Colleen Conaway :: J-Fred sends this email to the JET leaders about Sheryl’s “not saying goodbye” [...]
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[...] and his staff (one of whom witnessed Colleen’s death) abandoned Colleen’s body, concealed her death from the other participants, left fake messages on her cell phone to make it [...]
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