The Devil Predicts
David Schirmer has just released a fantastic new product {fantastic used loosely} :: FatDaddy needs him some money … NOW-ish. The Debts .. They Call. Here are the Promo Tweets {2 of 5 total tweets this week} ::
DevilDave Just uploaded my Stockmarket & Gold reports … my accurate predications will shock many people
DevilDave Just uploaded my Stockmarket & Gold reports … my 2009-10 predications will shock many people
I think it will “shock many people” to find out that “predications” is a word … because it certainly doesn’t look like a word. Shocking! I wouldn’t have predicated that.
Let’s have a look at this fine product :: {MIDI Drum Roll}
What Will Happen in the Stock Market in 2009; ARE YOU READY?
The first thing you’ll learn … {apparently} 2009 doesn’t start until June. Another shocker! When will the madness end?
The classic trick of the finance industry is to hint that past performance will be indicative of future performance :: That’s not true … but we’ve all agreed to pretend like it is. Is that DevilDave’s trick? Nope! He’s a bit bolder {/ridiculous} :: He just flat out says that he can predict the future ::
“How to see into the future and predict the price of gold and stocks … can you afford to not know what’s going to happen this year?”
Yes, You Can! Because uncertainty is the ONLY possibility :: EVERY YEAR :: That’s the perpetual bitch about the future. Ask yourself this question instead :: Can you afford to assume that you know what’s going to happen this year? If you answered in the affirmative :: smack your face against a hard surface and then ask yourself again.
“Imagine for a minute having a crystal ball that could help you accurately predict the price movement in any stock or market.”
Yes … imagine that. And then STOP and say to yourself, “Wait a second … most 9 year old girls don’t believe in crystal balls … maybe I shouldn’t make them a central part of my financial planning.”
“In fact, it is possible to predict through the use of cycles the price movement of any stock or commodity.”
NO … it isn’t. 100% LIE.
“You see the market is not random“
YES … it is. 100% LIE.
“The 2009 Predictions Report is literally information that you can take to the bank! or the shops… or on holiday…”
You can {literally} … but they will laugh at you, and it will be quite embarrassing.
This piece of dank-ass-shit would have cost you $500 :: But luckily a band of wily Pirates slashed the price to a piddling $250.
For comparison :: You can get 1 year of access to Morningstar’s awesome premium website for $174. They don’t do anything as cutting edge as predicting the future with a crystal ball :: But they do have several hundred smart and wonderful employees … working hard {and eating free bagels} … Doing some of the best research and analysis in the business. Their website is very well organized and easy to use :: the free services are amazing :: and their advice for novice investors is wise, prudent, and useful. {Disclosure :: The Droid is a former employee, and still Fanboy, of Morningstar Inc.}
Here’s a FREE tip from The Droid to make this your best ever investing year :: CUT OUT ALL THE FUCKING MIDDLE MEN! They don’t know ANYTHING more than you know. Then :: Win or Lose :: at least you know NONE of your hard earned money went to HACK, PARASITE, D-Bags like David Schirmer.
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{If you’ve already paid Schirmer for this BS product and would like help getting a refund … please email The Salty Droid … it would be my pleasure to help you.}
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If the so-called PREDICATIONS (I prefer the English spelling myself – predictions) that Dead Shit give were so darn good and accurate, then how come he owes money to so many people. If he really did know or understand the market he would not have to sell this information. It seems his ability, or more correct, his inability to trade shows that he does not have any idea of the market direction. Then if by chance he does get it right you can be fairly certain he stole the information from someone else.
This website shows you the trading capabilities of Dead Shit – http://tinyurl.com/r3p82n
Thank you Mr Droid for exposing these deceitful bastards.
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Im surprised someone hasnt posted that report up somewhere. This guy is a loser. He lost 85% of that guys money who appeared on tv. No doubt the guy isnt any friend of Davies any more because he did it during one of the best bull stock markets hes seen in his life time. Didn’t he realise that his own freakin greed would come back to bite him one day? Oh no I think Davey was making sure he got everything he wanted for himself and didn’t give a shit about the other guy. He calls himself and expert and yet got those sorts of results and wasnt that also at he same time he was teaching a group of traders how to become super expert traders? I wonder how many of those traders are successful? I’m guessing but I would say ah lets see, maybe none. If that guy really was good at predicting he would not be selling stuff he would be living a luxurious life like the people who really do know how that stuff works. I notice he uses all sorts of pathetic excuses on his yuotubes like trading is a lonely life and crap like that which is just total bullshit and excuses. What makes it lonely? The only reason why it could be lonely is if you don’t know what you are doing and its eating you up inside because you aren’t making enough to make it worth it. Oh an isn’t it interesting how this guys predictions always comes out months and months after everyone elses i.e. like when the years almost over. Call that coincidence or a busy schedule, I think not!
By the way the guy looks like a bloody beached whale. Isn’t he supposed to be promoting all things healthy and wealthy. LMAO jolly good show. Any wonder Proctor disposed of him, he can’t even live what hes preaching, no surprises there I guess. What pisses me off most about this guy is that he is always complaining, always blaming something else, always feeling sorry for himself, always making out that hes gods gift to the universe (yeh just to prove to us what idiots we look when we act like that) and that is what he teaches everyone else not to do. Weird, really weird set up.
As for needing the money. I’d reckon by the amount of times hes been to court in the last few years he might have to mortgage his grandma and that tells me that he aint no innocent sob.
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Well the guy did admit that he almost failed english somewhere didnt he. ALMOST you say? I think this guy ALMOST did a lot of things that he claims he did. Funny but ALMOST and WANNABE seem to go hand in hand. I think this guy has deluded himself into believing that he is something that in reality he is a very long way from ever being. If he doesnt need the money like he very clearly states on his web page THEN WHY ISN’T HE GIVING AWAY HIS PREDICATIONS?
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totonails Reply:
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:42 pm
@CF8N59, Repeat after me “Remember, the best lies have an element of truth.” David Schirmer has mastered deception and he is proud of it, just ask him.
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Spot on yet again, Droid.
What it all really boils down to…and this applies to the markets AND all business…is that if these secrets/strategies/potions/instant recipes were so reliable, the originator could and WOULD simply use them to rake in all the cash he/she needed. No supplemental paypal payments needed!
Like all the others though, he’s (cue bells) “more interested in helping OTHERS get wealthy,” as some sort of personal “mission.”
Let’s be realistic. If I had the perfect formula, I’d be employing that formula 24×7 myself, and I would safeguard it better than the Colonel’s 11 secret herbs and spices. I certainly would not be talking about it and potentially turning off my own faucet.
It’s just a little odd to see someone giving away their “cash cow” while dancing around what would then (theoretically) be a self-liquidating “buy” button (and evidently, he has yet to meet Perry).
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This guy has a video up somewhere claiming to be having dinner with Perry Belcher I think at stompernet or somewhere? People like this will charm their way up anyones arse to get what they want. Thats why they are regularly and passionately referred to as SCUM.
That BUY button deserves an electric shock on it. “Before you buy from me (oh but you are not really buying from me you are buying from my company, got that because thats the whole deal here) have you read all the license agreements I have between myself and myself and myself and my companies and my companies and my Trust and my Trust and my company and my Trust and me and me and my Unit Trust oh and my family Trust and my family Trust and me (oh shit did I miss any?) ….. once you proceed to the next page there ain’t no going back and the money will all have disappeared by the time you say phew thats done, SO BE WARNED!
This guy put out a program either called entrepreurship or using other peoples money and he taught people what he was doing. I have seen it as a friend has it and I have a feeling he screwed up somewhere along the lines because those products dont seem to be for sale any more. I think this guy has major tickets on himself and he doesn’t know what hes doing any more. I’m really not sure he ever meant there to be anything in any of his stuff for anyone else but himself and thats pretty much become fairly obvious now. One blog refers to him as the secret write off. I bet Ms Burnes is wishing she had done a bit more homework on this dude now. All the dirty little secrets that they didn’t expect would come out. You’ve got to laugh at just how stupid greed makes people.
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Dear Mr Salty Droid, if you have contacts in the finance areas, and it appears you may do, please do everything you possibly can to keep this guy out of the States. We are in bad enough shape as it is without this sort of scum coming over and adding their own bit of misery to others lives. From the link in the first comment it appears this guy has no idea of the markets, which we all know anyway since that is why he is trying to sell information. If it worked for him he wouldn’t be going to all this trouble to try and sell it. In Droids we trust.
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This guy gives himself away doesn’t he. I feel sorry for all those people who paid him money. For what its worth I know there are many more ethical business people out there who are set up like this guy too but don’t use that as an excuse to get out of paying people. I personally think that he is having a bad time in business because he has been doing the wrong thing. He teaches this stuff, he should understand it.
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Do you know what pisses me off most about this guy, aside from the way he looks that is, it is that he is such a freakin smart ass. He rockets on about swine flu as if he is a freakin professor on the subject when he is clueless let alone dickless about everything. Whatever happens to run in the media he happens to be the world guru on and that just ain’ happinen for me. He is a little man undoubtedly with little bits because why would he be telling the world hes so big if he didn’t have to? There is something really odd about him and I just cant pinpoint it but it also just don’t trust him.
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A guy in Tasmania, Australia on his blog:
“…. I’m happy to say I don’t know the weasel personally, but let’s just say many years working in a field where I assess and analyse people for senior executive jobs means that I can read body language and what people aren’t saying when they talk pretty well. Which means I can spot a dumb-but-cunning fraud when I see one.”
Very interesting because this guy considers himself the best at absolutely everything anyone can concieve as something to do or be. How surprising is it that someone could see straight through him?
My personal opinion is that he is very dishonest, he is deceitful, he does things behind peoples backs that only benefit himself, when he is challenged he fights like a girl and acts up like a child, he does not live what he tries to teach even though he wants you to believe he does, he has not shown anyone that I know of his successful trading ability (although there is plenty of evidence to the contrary out there) and he cannot be trusted. I would never recommend him or his services to anyone and I know of many other people who feel exactly the same way as I do for their own reasons. In other words he cannot be trusted in any way any more. He had far too many chances to do the right thing and he apparently didn’t so these are the consequences of his choices. Those people should realise by now that they have to suffer the consequences of those choices so there is no point complaining about it publicly because they just look stupid and childish, definitely not professional.
David Schirmer is a man who has no shame.
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enoch Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
@Julie ….., Totally agree and by the looks of it many more people agree with you too. D-bags are D-heads with nowhere to hide.
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I think David Schirmer still has not paid his platinum super traders from 2005 or 2005 like he promised on national tv. In fact I don’t think he has paid the people who invested in Life Success either and probably all those other people claiming they are owed money too. How this guy can call himself a Christian and deceitfully lie is beyond me but hey, its funny how it brings out he worst in people. My question is where did all the money go that these people paid him? Was it squirelled off into an overseas bank account somewhere? Is that why he keeps taking all these overseas trips? It is possible. David Schirmer claimed on national tv that he made 123% on the money that his Platinum 2006 group of people gave him. IF this is true, where is his evidence of the 123% I bet everyone would like to see that? IF it was true you would think he would be thrilled to get the evidence out there and say hey, I didn’t do the 900-1000% but I did 123% which is probably ten times more than you would have got in the bank anyway. I bet those people would be happy with that, geez I would be. But no I believe David Schirmer lied yet again. I go along with so many other people in thinking that this guy is full of bullshit, promises and is nothing but scum. Can a person who calls themselves a Christian treat their fellow men like this? Apparently thats just what Christians do according to Schirmer. And the best he can do is complain or blame or whinge or lie. I bet the church is proud to have him as an ambassador, at least they could justify saying GOD HELP US ALL at the service every week.
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I have never met more superficial people in my entire life.
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Ditto! Such an endless need for self importance, money and greed
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Not only does this guy predicate he also offers lesions. On his completestockmarketcourse website he has several offers like this
You get all 6 lesions presented in my home study workshop, on DVD and CD, absolutely free.
Each lesion is 3 hours long, and you’re able to learn on a higher more interactive level.
You feel like your right in the audience as I tackle the stock market, and how you how to profit.
Good professional grammar.
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Forget the lesions, this guy just needs sorting out. To me it looks like he took money from people and made promises and has never followed through on those promises but instead hes been funding his lifestyle through his businesses and subsequently their money. He wonders why so many people are so pissed off its actually quite funny when you think about it. You dont hear of any successful person doing that they always look after the people who have helped them get where they are first and then have what is left until its all sorted. These people are just greedy bastards thats all. They don’t deserve anyones respect or money and they wont be getting mine.
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To “have shame” means to maintain a sense of restraint against offending others while to “have no shame” is to behave without such restraint. I think it is fair to say that this guy doesn’t know what shame is. If he did he would consider how the decisions he makes affects the lives of other people. I do not believe he is a christian at all.
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satan Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:54 am
@anonymous, good comment here. Schirmer is not a christian, he only thinks he is. He suffer a dis-ease called the messiah complex.
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I think David Schirmer should consider very carefully that if he had to face his own mortality today would he be happy with the way he has treated people? Especially those people who it seems once fully supported him by believing what they were being told by him? Is the mad scramble to get rich worth the results? Are lies and deceit worth it in the end? What I get from this guy is just nastiness and acting up from someone who instead of acting with respect, gratitude and dignity has been acting like a spoilt child stomping their feet expecting everyone to give so they can get what they want. I fully understand how so many have walked away including his apparent one time friend Bob Proctor but what I don’t get is why a person in this position doesnt get it themselves.
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David Schirmer has been exposed lots of times in Australia and New Zealand. Apparently he is on his way here so lets get ready to rumble……………………
http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-255837.html
there are lots of videos about him on youtube too and other blogs which expose his dirty little secrets. He is not a person I trust.
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Here is a list of some sites with videos of schirmer capture by A Current Affair:
http://www.youtube.com/schirmerisconfused
http://www.youtube.com/schirmerisconfusedd
http://www.veoh.com/users/baddood
Spread the good word.
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Schirmers sidekick who goes by the name of Benjamin Bressington now says hes heading to Austin Texas where he is apparently going on a 2 week road trip around the US of A. If I didn’t think any better I would immediately think that Schirmer is using him to spread the message about Schirmers launch of Schirmers products which he has been threatening launching here for months now. Feelling certain that Schirmer uses most people he ever had anything to do with I immediately came to another conclusion that this Benjamin Bressington guy has no idea who he is really dealing with yet. The guy is a spring chicken and easily influenced because anyone in that situation thinks the skies the limit until they get screwed for the first time. I bet he hasn’t asked Bob Proctor or all those other people that spoke out what actually went down between them and Schirmer and why all those people obviously walked away in disgust. I bet he is just taking Schirmers word for it all and thinking the guy is genuine and just being picked on for some reason. Well hell no I don’t. Maybe I’ve been around too long and seen some of this several times. Something does not sit well with me about that Schirmer character and I don’t really care how charming he might think he is I feel its something a lot deeper than that. If you read between the lines its not hard to come to the conclusion that this is a guy you just don’t want to give money to. For some reason I feel like if he can’t settle his debts and issues in Australia then hell we don’t want the guy here either. I get the feeling he is running from his problems and I think that is incredibly weak. But it would make fantastic fodder so maybe we should suck and see. We’ll give him a bit of his own, take everything we can get off the guy for nothing and watch him run like hell back to where he came from.
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enoch Reply:
March 30th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
@Joe, What a fool.
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Who better to USE than someone who has connections with a law firm. Cough cough I mean who not to use.
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David Schirmer is incorrigible.
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I did some research on this guy David Schirmer and came up with nothing but crap. He has not provided any proof of his trading, he makes ridiculous claims and has nothing to show for it, he has been in court several times, he is accused of screwing people over and not fulfilling financial promises made, he chases all the women he can and claims to have an amazing relationship with his wife (god help her she’d need either patient or blind to be with a jerk like that and feel clean), he has never written a book, doesn’t appear to have bought anything with his trading proceeds (thats probably because he hasn’t made anything only lost it apparently trading other peoples money, no he didn’t even trade his own money just everyone elses and lost 85% of it all in one of the best times we’ve ever seen and he will ever see in his lifetime), he claims to be the know all of everything from the swine flu jerk to the bushfire philanthropist (and probaby didn’t even give a cent) but appears clueless to how stupid he now looks. He is blaming everyone but himself for his own situation and to top it all off he is now claiming Jesus loves him. Well actually Jesus might be the only person who does love him and because Jesus is a figment of our imaginations we can’t ask him if even he does. This guy seems a total flake and I bet he would sell ice to an eskimo he’s that slippery. The guy needs to get some balls and come clean and make good otherwise hes in for a hell of a shock coming here.
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http://www.kcm.org.au/vc2009sydney/brisspeakerschedule.php
I predict that Schirmer is going to Brisbane in Australia this weekend to suck up to Kenneth Copeland Ministries probably hoping to be sprung as the amazing new voice of hope in the church Pffftt Pffft ROFLMAO. GOD HELP THE COPELANDS if they ever use Schirmer in their ministeries. Not that I give a toss if they are that stupid then they can live with the backlash too. Seriously the guy is so deluded but if he does intend to come clean and set wrongs right then he should do that first before he starts preaching to the world about what he thinks is right and wrong or good and christian otherwise he’s itching to have more of his past exposed.
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I have just come across Schirmers youtubes and I am disgusted at how he is continually blaming people and particularly one woman. I know the people and I also know that those people were privy to Schirmers antics and got sick of them because they considered them ethically wrong. It appears that Schirmer has over the years befriended a lot of people and subsequently used them for his own benefit and then when they accuse him of doing things behind their backs he shafts them. I have watched as he has done that so many times and yet he wonders why people have got so sick of it and speak out about it, damn I would be yelling. I have spoken to several people in the trading business and the personal development business in Australia who refuse to have anything to do with the Schirmers because of their personal and business ethics. I believe that David Schirmer ethically and morally owes a lot of people a lot of money and he knows it because there are people who gave to the Schirmers believing what they were being told by someone who is claiming to be an expert and a guru of everything to do with personal development and wealth creation. I think what they didn’t realise and he obviously didn’t volunteer to tell them (because no doubt it was his intentional very dirty little secret) was that he was creating trusts and licenses behind their backs which meant that if they ever wanted their money back he then felt he could legally say he didn’t owe anyone anything and in doing that he thought he had got away with it. He taught people to do this but I notice that those products and courses are no longer available. Maybe the authorities caught up with him after all. What he didn’t count on was that 99.9% of the public do not do business like he does and are not out to rip everyone off or get out of paying their dues that is because they do care about what others think about them and they do care about maintaining their credibility and respectability. For someone to do all of this and then claim to be a christian and act in the way he does means that he has no concept of humility or honesty whatsoever. Nobody actually needs to do anything, justice will be served in this life and the next and Im sure there will be a lot of people cheering when it happens. I really understand why Bob Proctor sued him even though I know nothing about the circumstances or reason why and I dont even know Bob Proctor. Who would want a person like that representing you in any way. I bet Proctor didn’t make his decision lightly because no doubt it has meant a backlash for him too. Schirmer even admits he has given stuff away and weirdly that somehow makes him feel good or evens out the wrong hes done. What he hasn’t said is that some of what he has given away apparently belonged to other people he just treated it like it was his own. Its easy to give away other peoples stuff isn’t it. He will have to answer for everything eventually and everyone who has been affected by him I’m sure would take comfort in that belief. In my view David Schirmer is a fraud and a hypocrite and as others have mentioned he has no shame at all. I have met the guy and there is something about him that I cannot trust, something in his eyes. They look dark and deceitful or something. I really to feel sorry for those people caught up in the situation with him because David Schirmer is not the type of person to admit any wrong doing, he is very spiteful and deceitful and thats difficult to deal with. Any parent knows that because its very childish.
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David Schirmer is a pretend wealthy person. He lives in a rented house with a rented car and probably rented kids and pets. He works in a rented office and has rented employees probably too. He is a fake because he does not have any of what he is trying to teach people to have. He acts surprised when people want to know the truth about what he really has and the proof of his use of the material and trading. The fact that he feels that is is necessary to fight and argue and blame, all publicly by the way, confirms to me that he really is fake. I feel annoyed that Rhonda Byrnes put him in the secret movie but maybe she was caught in his web of lies and deceit too. There are so many more people in Australia who are so much more ethical than him and they were obviously overlooked. I feel ashamed that our only representation in that movie was a crook. Thats not how all Aussies are in fact quite the opposite in my experience. I doubt too many people in Australia would treat people like this guy does. Its almost as if he is rebelling against his childhood or something. He obviously hates something about his life to treat everyone like he does. His wife should also take a good hard look at the whole charade they are playing. It must be embarassing to her surely but then if hes that good at lying he’s probably good her hook line and sinker too.
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It sounds the perfect spot for Schirmer to be involved in some money making church business. He knows the people who go to church wouldnt screw him so they are perfect subjects for his web of deceit and theft. They are easy manipulated to give give give. How so that he could be involved in one of the biggest money making churches there is. Hypocrites and evil christians as referred to in the ancient christian commentary text. They are evil doers who are greedy and self serving. They prey on the church goers and pretend to share love and goodwill. The end is nigh for them and that is why they strive harder and harder to please but to no avail. They will suffer a nasty fate that will destoy their ego and make them cry out for forgiveness and there will be none.
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I predict that David Schirmer will be sucking up to anyone he can get his hands onto at the moment from the US of A. He is desparate to start selling his crap in America it seems and the fact that he is hoping his door is through a CHURCH makes it even more scarey. This guy is a weasel of the worst kind. Lock up your wives and daughters, lock up your bank accounts and your credit cards, lock up your brains because this guy respects nothing and nobody when he knows he can get something off you. You can tell a persons character by ….. you know the drill … the eyes, their face and their expressions.
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What a bloody wanker!
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Schirmer is in court again tomorrow attempting to get out of paying his lawyer yet again it appears. Thieves it off everyone else and will do anything to get out of paying it including lose credibility, lose reputation, lose relationship, lose business colleagues, lose clients, etc. etc. What a complete dickhead.
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That guy is a disgrace. Everyone who did his courses when I did around 2002 2003 suspected what he was getting up to and he even screwed over his co-director too didnt’ he. I heard that was why she put the company into liquidation because Schirmer screwed her. Hes a bloody greedy bastard who owes a lot of people a lot of money and he has tried squirming his way around the law to try to get out of his obligations. I bet all those people who are owed money can’t wait to see this guy dealt with. I also find it disgusting that he is using the church as a cover up to pretend he is innocent. He will pay some day and it will hurt him much worse than it ever hurts anyone else because that is the law. He is a very foolish man.
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ROTFLMAO ……
David Schirmer has a quote on his twit page that says “when you are in a hole stop digging”
The guy has been shovelling shit for years and hes telling people to stop digging. That is the funniest thing I have read in ages. He has created so much shit in his own hole that every time he opens his mouth he’s still digging he has no choice because his ego won’t let him do anything else. His new found bible bashing business makes it even more interesting. All it has done is made the dirt in the hole mud and mud get bloody smelly. Too good to pass up.
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The only thing in his favour, is that the Australian financial year ends on June 30. So the 2009-10 financial year starts in July. (The Japanese financial year starts on April Fool’s day.) Don’t ask me why.
Anyway, good work SaltyDroid and all the commenters.
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How the hell does that fix his problems? All the issues he is dealing with any one can go back and sue him at any time in the future no questions asked. He is the ultimate loser and always will be.
My parents always taught me that there are two ways you can operate and there is a very long and unrecoverable road between them. You can operate ethically and morally right or you can operate legally right and inbetween those is what is known as a CHRISTIAN. It seems that David Schirmer has no concept of what a Christian is otherwise his roadblock (often referred to as a conscience) would have hit him a long time ago. I get the feeling he has always operated from the right not the right. Either way he has a very very long road to recovery and respect now. You cannot treat people the way he has and think that it will all disappear if you feign christianity to cover it all up.
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I get that you mean you can operate morally and ethically in the right way or you can operate by claiming to only have to do it to abide by the law. Very good and wise comment. If all you strive to do it operate within the law then you have missed the best part of being in business. I think Schirmer uses his so called trusts and license agreements to wangle in way around the law and thats what he uses as an excuse to tell people he doesnt owe them anything. Because if he was operating via the so called christian method he would operate ethically and morally right. I find his comments very strange and frankly creapy. His latest comment on twitter says “You can’t beat a man and his faith #KCM” What I would like to know is why the hell do you want to beat a man in the first place. It not like life is a competition or perhaps it is to Schirmer. I just don’t like the place that this guy keeps coming from there appears no remorse, no shame and no respect at all.
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There are no excuses and there is no forgiveness for people who do what this guy does, simple.
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People who really learn the lesson take it and apply it they don’t preach to the world about what they feel is a quote that appealed to them. Anyone who does that thinks they are better than everyone else and beyond reproach. That guy does not possess the necessary humility to get the lesson.
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Schirmer can go pontificate all he likes it does not change peoples opinions of him for the better. His words are empty misguided arrogant monotonous selfrighteous blabber. What he DOES overrides anything that could come out of his mouth.
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LOL so true. In the end he pays one way or another.
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Schirmers sidekick Bressington says hes in the US of A and hes prolly getting reading for the big fat sloppy Schirmer launch. Trouble is Schirmer has already launched into cyberidiotdom a long time ago apparently. I can’t find many places saying anything very positive about Schirmer and at one point I would have given him the benefit of doubt too being the little fat jerk from down under. I think he has prolly scewed too many people over and he obviously doesn’t understand the concept of the CONTROLLING MIND in a company. Knowing the type he would be I doubt he would want anyone else a Director in his companies so guess what, he is the CONTROLLING MIND and while he might be telling people he owes people nothing his companies do and therefore he does. A little trip around the mountains of legal jargon only puts you back on square one in the end so was it worth it, I doubt it, he’ll pay for that sideshow for a long time I’d say. Playing smart arse and bullying people is even less clever and I thought the guy might have had a few brains but I’ve been proved wrong again. Oh well, can write another one off my list.
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Oh that guy is pure class – a big fat classy ass idiot!
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This guy is a world class idiot. If he has a fraction of a brain he would have paid those traders exactly like he promised post haste. If anyone will expose you it is people who have been ripped off by someone who is claiming to be an expert or a guru or the best of the best which this guy can’t help but dribble his own opinion of himself out of his mouth every time he opens it. He has convinced himself he is that good and now he really believes it but he can’t back it up with anything and least of all anything honest.
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I really dont understand this guy. In one comment he is preaching god and peace and in the next comment he makes threats and appears really nasty. I think there are two sides to him and maybe that is where all his problems come from. I am starting to believe he is very fake.
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This guy is a first class dickhead. He has someone question him on his ACA (that is a current affair tv program apparently in Australia) appearance and he very calmly and fucking deliberately says to them that if they knew the fucking truth they would judge differently. Well dickhead dave many people do know the fucking truth because it seems they have been on the other fucking end of your dickhead business ethics. Ask any one of those people about why dickhead dave appeared on that footnmouth show and they would say because he needed to blah blah blah. I bet that stupid person who asked the stupid question of dickhead dave has looked no further but taken dickhead daves simple little explanation and swallowed it. How fucking dumb can you get.
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Part 2 because it needs it. We all know that he claims he owes noone anything hes said it that many times its fucking embarassing and its sticking to his lips like fucking used old gum. Dickhead dave uses the same old ttrick all scumbag conmen do and say they owe no man anything because they fucking use their company name all the time thinking the fucking company will take the blame. The fucking company is YOU dickhead dave. This guy has got to have serious problems because I'm not sure he knows how to live outside his own world anymore. Now he's preaching God and Jesus and all that stuff when everyone with a quarter of a brains knows dickhead dave aint no saint. If I could give him one message it would be GET OVER YOURSELF YOU BLOODY IDOT.
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LMAO that is so funny and so true. What a pity he has no idea how to use the material he teaches because he has all the answers for his own problem but he cannot see them. He will forever have to live with his mistakes, well we all do, but his seem a bit more serious than most peoples. What I really dont understand is how he can believe he is a christian. I suppose it has the same shallow meaning as being wealthy i.e.fake wealth fake religion. What a life.
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I have never seen proof of Schirmers trading ability therefore I consider him a fake. His reports ALWAYS come out months after everyone elses and contain the same stuff as everyone elses. It seems like the only way he has been able to do business is by sucking up to people, taking their money, using it and not giving it back. What happened to all those people who spoke out to the media? Where is their money? Why did Schirmers own lawyer walk away from him? Why did they end up in court? If he was so wealthy why did he have to sell his dream house? Why have so many people walked away from them? Not a stitch of what I have seen or heard of this guy rings true. Is his entire life an elborate charade and built on lies, seduction and manipulation just to feed his own ego and lifestyle? If that is the case then he is one sick dude. One thing is for sure I will never be paying him a penny of my dollars now or ever because he even looks evil and greedy to me.
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Devil Dave is quoting a dear old lady who said some christian quote to him and as always he is applying it to everyone else BUT himself. I suspect that dear old lady had an idea that Dave wasn't quite the boy he was making out and could do with a bit of little old lady wisdom from someone he might listen to. His twitter says "will your life be an example or a warning". Well from what I can gather Dave has probably stretched the story for good value and that dear old lady ain't going to even read the web let alone argue what she meant. I get the distinct impression that Dave is somehow stuck somewhere in the past and finding it very hard to move forward knowing that would mean acknowledging his wickedness towards other poor souls. He foolishly keeps on with words like jealous, revenge, hate ……. is that what hes thinking? I know his critics are saying get real the guy doesnt have feelings but he reacts plenty when hes questioned and that certainly feels like loads of guilt to me.
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Well howdy doody is this guy actually still operating. I heard he had really pissed off everyone he had anything to ever do with and the only people hanging around him now are hoping like shit to get their money back. Maybe they have left not sure but this guy doesn't know when to quit hes one sick puppy. If there is anyone on the web who has deluded themselves into believing they are good and right and its really ok to be right up themselves because their own shit smells ok, its this guy. Hes such a weazil. I must go check out his latest shit and see how I can annoy him too.
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What kills me about this guy is that he is supposed to be a WEALTH CREATION EXPERT and he is so far up his own arse with debts he doesn't know what day of the week it is. By now he must owe half of OZ and hes still preaching through his ass……if anyone is still listening. fffffT, ffffffffffffT! He says I dont owe anyone anything – you fucking idiot and I am Jesus! Of course you do and you know it that is why people speak up and out you moron. Don't hide behind your smart arse trust deeds either because they won't save you. This dickhead controls everything including who he sleeps with at night and where he eats which it seems hes prone to a tasty morsel on the side quite often. Not even Jesus will save such an ugly dumb ass human being as this guy who has no moral fibre in his being. How the hell he rocks up at church and then starts preaching to everyone is beyond my brainpower because it doesnt register as normal.
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Just what drives a fraudster? In Madoff's case, blatant greed, breath-taking chutzpah, a lack of empathy and downright denial of reality appears to have culminated in one of the worst acts of corporate fraud in American history.
Some refer to Schirmer is MiniMadoff ! Now thats a legacy not to mention a bloody good example for everyone!
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You know this guy has to be the biggest asshole since the beginning of time. Who, yes I say WHO screws over everyone they need to be successfull just to feed their own ego? That sucks big time and it shows the world this guy doesnt have a warts idea of how to grow anything. He is one greedy mother fucker who is paying big time for being such a dumb ass and screwing over people just to feed his own wants. If this guy still thinks hes in the right then there is more of the same on its way because this just isn't normal. He doesn't give a fuck about his victims in fact he probably detests them because he owes them big time and he knows it. Its like it turns a switch on inside his brain to high volume hate and spite and then he wonders why the hell hes in the situation he is. I doubt this fucker knows how hes going to pay for tomorrow hes so fucked up. This guy is such a greedy bastard he would screw his own mother if it meant getting what he wanted and sucking in one more person. Dont get me started because he is one sick sob.
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THANKYOU for speaking out about these con men. They seem to all have the same things in common so that must mean that they all suffer the sale illness. These types are going to see hard days ahead because people are so bloody sick of being sold crap and being ripped off by someone who gets exposed as a predator and con.
The natural progression of a con:
1. Claim to be an expert or a guru of something
2. Back it up with limitless hype in your marketing but show no proof of anything
3. Claim to be an awesome family man, say how wonderful your wife and kids are and make people believe you really mean it.
4. Claim to be a faith walking chrisitian, if they don't buy into the first two this one is sure to work.
NOT!
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LOL Reply:
October 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
When someone mentions religion or religious things like "i'm a good christian" it's a huge red flag to me… the total opposite of what they were trying to do.
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Schirmer reckons it iseasy to make money BULLSHIT because if it was why the hell hasnt that guy PAID if he claims its that easy. Is that what he does, takes other peoples money loses it all and claims to have made loads on his own account? Who the hell would have anything to do with that guy when he does that? Thats it huh dickhead, then why are you such a loser and why do you owe so many people so much money? Far too many questions with no answers except more bullshit promises of making millions on the market. He is conning people to buy his home study course because he needs them to to make money for himself. He sells you buy, he gets rich you dont. And when you've done that you pay about another $15K to get a bunch of information that is more crap to trade at dickhead dave level, oh good god when will the guy give up.
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copy and paste
"You have just been conned by Australia’s most recent schiester. Schirmer was and still is broke!! Everything he has actually belongs to someone else, at least the money he uses to get them is. Schirmer is a smooth talker with a convincing story – the hallmark of every professional con artist."
Nothing has changed apparently, hes still a wanker who parades as god but is a psychotic thief.
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Some great comments on here. What happened between wanker Dave Schirmer and his latest sidekick dude Benjamin Bressington? Bressington is now (SURPRISE SURPRISE) claiming no further association……well how about that and how bloody predictable. For a guy who says so much about himself and what he can do Schirmer sure knows how to piss people off. Does Schirmer owe the guy money or did the twisted factoid lie issue about himself and his accomplishments do it? Yewk, what a sad case.
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Probably screwed like everyone else who has ever had anything to do with them.
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Salty said it best! "Here’s a FREE tip from The Droid to make this your best ever investing year :: CUT OUT ALL THE FUCKING MIDDLE MEN! They don’t know ANYTHING more than you know. Then :: Win or Lose :: at least you know NONE of your hard earned money went to HACK, PARASITE, D-Bags like David Schirmer."
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This guy seems to be an expert copyartist. If you look at his stuff it becomes pretty obvious that he just reads a book and copies everyone elses ideas and resells them under his own name. He is selling Bob Proctors Born Rich only he’s putt Aussie in front of it and claims it as his own. What a loser. I also just discovered that he was taken to court by another guy in Australia for copying something. Good tactic say you are guilty just before your day in court to avoid a charge against your name but your accusers gets to call you a fulltime wanker. So what everyone calls him a wanker, hes got thick skin and is brain dead. I guess thats why he is so successful, NOT!
Australia Money Secrets Of The Rich, look out for the next idea coming next from this wanker. Has he ever actually invented anything? As far as I can tell its all stuff that is the same as everyone elses. Not much fun when you cant be original, nobody takes you seriously. Well DOH!
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David and Lorna Schirmer have been nicknamed the SHAMELESS SCHIRMERS down under. Seems like they have more enemies than friends despite claiming every face on facebook as their friends. They don’t appear honest to me, they dont act honest and they dont talk honest either so to me that equates to absolutely dishonest. No love lost here, I actually despise people like this.
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D-bag Schirmer doesnt know what honesty is. He crap on about God but he doesn’t know what God even is its just another sales pitch to him.
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What I know with absolute certainty is that the HUMAN COST as a result of this mans greed has been absolutely enormous and he chooses to remain blinded to it. Until he takes responsibility and offers people a solution to what can only be described as HIS greedy actions then he will never know real peace. To me this man bears no resemblance to anything that could remotely be called christian.
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I know people who did Schirmers platinum course who have admitted to discovering that he did not trade. From what I have discovered Schirmer is good at reading out of books, asking questions and getting his students to answer other students questions. I do not think the guy has a clue about very much at all because he makes all the claims about himself and provides very little evidence of anything at all except other peoples achievements. That to me sends an electric shock thru my system. To me the guy is a scamartist.
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_cartman_ Reply:
November 27th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
I traded for a while (intraday mostly), and I can tell you the sure way to make money every time guaranteed, start a brokerage firm.
Anyways someone started this blogpost about schirmer. I figured it complimented your comment, so I included it.
There is no trade information for ’07-’09 so it may be that he no longer trades, and only sells his “expertease”.
http://schirmerexposed.blogspot.com/
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The WIKI WAR on David Schirmer continues ……… that is until he or his latest croney edits it.
“Schirmer’s other activities include working with children and his local Christian Church in a paid for service / advice manner.”
Schirmer does fucking NOTHING for free, he’s even conning the churchgoers into believing he’s a fucking guru. I bet if anyone owed him money he’d sue the shit out of them but when he owes everyone else money he fucking hides and whinges. This guy is a class act wanker. Keep the expose going, there something about this guy that shits me and lots of other people it seems. USING the bloody church to do your fucking business, what a bloody evil loser this guy is.
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what is even more funny are the amount of times he or his cronies edited wiki because they don’t like what is being said. Wiki were smart enough to realise what he was up to and removed a lot of his usual crap about himself. I think they smell a large ego a long way off. yeah there is probably some exaggerated stuff out there but the guy only has himself to blame for all of it. This guy hates anyone saying I HATE YOU but its a fact, people do hate him and he is the only one to blame if people do hate him. Obviously hes done something wrong to a lot of people but he either doesnt’ want to take responsibility (own his own shit like he tries to teach) or hes mostly a girl. I think everyone knows to look at the history on wiki for these guys, they just fail to realise that the public is smart enough to work it out for themselves. One thing for sure, anyone who feels justifiably screwed over by a guy like this will have a memory of an elephant and he has nowhere to go except down.
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The saying that “theres a sucker born every minute” is accurate for this guy as he seems to have no shortage of suckers who link up with him and end up on the crap heap probably owed heaps of money which is what seems to be his favorite method of operation. Who is the latest guy? Andrew Gresswell????? Another nobody who has something Schirmer can use no doubt who thinks he can make god himself see the light. These guys amuse me, their own arrogance is killing them and their business and they still don’t see any of it happening. Theres something really sus about Schirmer though and I just can’t pinpoint it. Its something about the person that seems really sleazy and untrustworthy. Not the idea of a person you’d hand your money to or leave your wife or daughter around.
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“You do not need a load of trappings to make a great meal” just like you do not need all the crap that this guy sells to trade the stock market – SIMPLE PEOPLES.
This guys courses are $5,000 on his basic course then $10,000 on a more advanced version and from what I’ve sussed out, yet another $30,000 (0r a lot more) on his exclusive little behind closed doors platinum course. Once you’ve spent all that you probably then discover that you’ve been completely sucked in and its too late, he’s running like hell with your cash. He’s had you sign your life away but guess what, he signed nuttin so you the fool tool. If people like this can’t be open and honest then run like hell to the next teacher who will. You have every right to know the facts before you hand over any of your hard earned cash and frankly you’d be a complete idiot if you didn’t. I think that people like this guy are milking the system out of greed because they know that everyone wants an impossible get rich quick opportunity and some people would pay anything for that promise. You might also find out that he has no successful trading results and he makes his money from running seminars. Ooooh, thats thought.
cartman is right, the people making most of the money are the brokers. These wannabes who pretend to be gurus of everything, charm your wallet out your pocket and should be avoided at all costs. Just my sperience and thoughts, hope its helpful.
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Can’t agree more….. Nobody and I mean NOBODY needs to spend that much money to learn to trade very successfully. That is just a bloody greedy exercise by someone whose ego drives them. The guy is a tosser, he even looks it.
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Sorry about the size of this link but I was searching for photos of the secret group and this is what came up. This is apparently Schirmers trading records when he was running his Platinum Super Traders group in Australia. Any wonder so many people were complaining, its a wonder the guy is still standing. He is apparently going to run another one for platinum suckers in 2010 but I bet no-one gets access to his records this time. What a dickhead, wanker, moron, loser, greedy bastard. who would even think of giving the guy money without seeing proof.
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NKlUZHMaOxg/SgKoo9S5UFI/AAAAAAAAADc/_5IWCPexLqM/s400/schirmer_trading_results_2004.JPG&imgrefurl=http://schirmerexposed.blogspot.com/&usg=__gWLvfB0X5Rc0DTMcRfDzlbd6ykg=&h=400&w=349&sz=67&hl=en&start=70&um=1&tbnid=NUMMmZaC7rxA5M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=108&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsaltydroid%2Binfo%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26start%3D63%26um%3D1
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On http://www.valuemysite.com David Schirmers websites “tradingedge.com.au” and “www.wealthbychoice.com” are worth $0 USD and Saltys “saltydroid.info” is worth $730,869 USD
Whose the biggest wanker contest case closed.
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OMG I just looked at this dickheads trading results and Schirmer is loose selling trading course to the public. Any wonder he got exposed. That is totally preposterous. I now understand why so many people hate the guy.
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I wonder if this guy has realised that he is the BUTT of so many peoples jokes.
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I think he thinks that if people aren’t doing what he tells them to do they are sitting in the corner sucking their thumb. Shows you where his head is ….. immature and in the gutter most the time. The guy is paranoid and can’t handle it when people challenge him because he thinks he is always right and knows everything. Well history has now shown that the guy knows bugger all, hes an expert liar and his results are bugger all along with his ethics.
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Isn’t this guy charging something like $90,000 for his Platinum Super Traders course? The guy is deluded at the highest level and has the ego of a meglamaniac. Anyone paying that sort of money would be and should be demanding proof of everything he says and have it forensically diagnosed. I would be sussing out previous students, as many as I could find and check out their success because the guy had to sell his house because he was so in debt so if he is such a good trader why isn’t he living the lifestyle instead of a fake lifestyle????
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LOL Meglomaniac….you are right shameless scum.
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Sounds like the guy is inflicted with Machiavellianism
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“……….charging something like $90,000 for his Platinum Super Traders course.”
That is ludicrous and pure greed. Now I see why everyone is so upset. The guy claims he can make people into rich millionaires but he can’t even do it for himself apparently. Thats the sort of mentor I want…NOT! What a bloody loser.
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Schirmers company Excellence In Results Pty ltd appears to have gone to the wall also. Its listed with the Australian Securities and Investment Commission as being liquidated. Funny for a guy who claims to be a trading expert and be so keen to shove in everyones faces just how UNsuccessful he is. Dickhead of the highest order.
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Is this guy still going? I found him a bloody abusive dickhead a long time ago!
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Dickhead Dave huh, and he’s still trying to convince himself he’s God. Some wankers live sad lives.
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How are Schirmers predications going? He is currently trying to suck more people in to giving him money but I think people are smart enough to realise that they dont like his HISTORY and HISTORY REPEATS. Why does he need other peoples money anyway? Isn’t he SUCKSESSFUL?
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I discovered that David Schirmer does not have a Financial Services License which is required by Australian Law to provide financial advice to anyone. He would like everyone to think he has. I also thought that meant he was also not allowed to predict. Whoever called them the Shameless Schirmers,, thats a good one. Schirmer will never be successful because everything he has achieved has been by ill-gotten means so if he has any clue about the law of attraction he will know that he doesn’t have a hope in hell of being successful in anything good or worthwhile. He has become the master of deception and appears to really enjoy screwing people over.
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EXPLOITATION! They call it marketing but they are actually exploiting people and I find that obnoxious and evil especially coming from someone who is claiming to live a Godly life (obviously thats an area of exploitation as well). This is a massive disgrace on everyone he is associated with and I bet those people who have had things to do with him in the past feel like vomiting on this guy.
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Schirmer is one fucking twisted dude. He will justify anything no matter how hurtful, inciteful or devious it might be against any other human being. He claims to be a christian because that detracts from what hes really up to. He can’t pay his debts, he is not wealthy just like James Ray’s own lawyers have come out and said ‘HE IS NOT A WEALTHY MAN’. Geez that must have twisted that twits guts.
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Schirmer is running his platinum event this weekend but if I recall HE STILL HAS NOT PAID HIS 2005 or 2006 Platinum people the money he promised them. He said in one interview that he made 123% but I dont think one person has seen any of it. The guy is a con and a user. He gets people to pay ridiculous amounts of money on a bunch of promises and in the end they are worse off than when they started and they are learning from a guy who cheats and lies for a living. It now looks like one of is current companies has gone bum up and owes the taxation office loads so he most likely needs these peoples money just to pay old debts. He seems to be constantly going backwards all the time and he wonders why people are so pissed off with him. In my view he is one guy whose advice cannot be trusted because hes only in it for himself. I bet he sucks as much information out of his students as he can for himself and they wouldn’t even realise its happening until its to late. Christian? Bloody imbecile.
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Amen.
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I go along with everyone else, this guy is a good for nothing predator who is full of shit.
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I wonder if this guy has really sat down and counted the cost of what he has done to other people. From what I have heard and read all he can do is blame everyone else for what appears to be the results of his own actions. He hurt other people and he is responsible for that but I bet he continues to rabbit on about how he is better than anyone else and why everyone should follow him and do as he says even though it appears the only result of doing that is getting hurt.
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Just sayin,,, this is worth reading:
http://www.invested.com.au/24/diploma-share-trading-investment-35688/
do a search for schirmer on that post. I dont know the course or the other guy who worked for schirmer but I do believe the comments to be a real indication of how people feel. seems like schirmer has been really pissing people off for a long time, must be a bit of an expert by now so hes earned his title of secret con.
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Well I’ve waited long enough to come out and say but I was a client of Schirmers way back a while. When I first went to his seminars he was all hyped up and basically telling everyone that they should reach for the stars and dream so big that it scared them. Do things that scared them because it made sense but apparently only to him because so many people questioned the guys sanity at his comments and some even followed. My greatest issue was the amount of delusional expectations and inconsistencies between what this guy said and what I observed was actually happening in his life. I read and reread The Richest Man of Babylon which was apparently the basis of all the crap that he was attempting to teach at that time. What has alarmed me since is just how much he has changed his story to suit whatever situation he is in in order to make money from unsuspecting people. Following are some of the major issues I had and still have with what this guy is on about. Bear with me because there are lots…..
1. Advice is one thing that is freely given away, but watch that you take only what is worthy having. He who takes advice
from one who is inexperienced in such matters, shall pay with his savings for proving the falsity of their opinions.
2. Usurious rates of returns are deceitful sirens that sing but to lure the unwary upon the rocks of loss and remorse.
3. Before thou loan it to any man assure thyself of his ability to repay and his reputation for doing so, that thou mayest
not unwittingly be making him a present of thy hard-earned treasure.
4. Just this: If you desire to help thy friend, do so in a way that will not bring thy friend’s burdens upon thyself.
5. Humans in the throes of great emotions are not safe risks for the gold lender.
6. ….if they borrow because of their indiscretions, I warn thee to be cautious if thou wouldst ever have thy gold back in hand again.
7. …. hopeless debt is like a deep pit into which one may descend quickly and where one may struggle vainly for many days.
It is a pit of sorrow and regrets where the brightness of the sun is overcast and night is made unhappy by restless sleeping.
8. I will no longer lend any of it where I am not confident it is safe and will be returned to me. Neither will I lend it where
I am not convinced that its earnings will be promptly paid to me.
9. From this you can see how often their high hopes of the great earnings they could make, if they but had gold, are but false
hopes they have, not the ability or training to fulfill.
10. Thy first desire is for safety. I fear not for he is not wise in guarding gold.
11. Forget not that gold slippeth away in unexpected ways from those unskilled in guarding it. As well waste they treasure in
extravagance as let others lose it for thee.
12. Therefore, be not swayed by the fantastic plans of impractical men who think they see ways to force thy gold to make earnings
ususually large. Such plans are the creations of dreamers unskilled in the safe and dependable laws of trade.
13. To hire it out with a pomise of unsurious returns it to invite loss.
14. Seek to associate thyself with men and enterprises whose success is established that thy treasure may earn liberally under
their skillful use and be guarded safely by their wisdom and experience.
15. Illfortune pursues every man who thinks more of borrowing than of repaying.
16. I did not know that he who spends more than he earns is sowing the winds of needless self-indulgence from which he is sure to reap
the whirlwinds of trouble and humiliation.
17. Creditors began to pursue me to pay for my extravagant purchases and my life became miserable. I borrowed from my friends, but
could not repay them either.
18. How can you call yourself a free man when your weakness has brought you to this?
19 If a man has within him the soul of a free man, will he not become respected and honored in his own city in spite of his misfortune?
20 Have you the desire to repay the just debts you owe in Babylon? If thou contentedly let the years slip by and make no effort to repay,
then thou has but the contemptible soul of a slave. No man is otherwise who cannot respect himself and no man can respect himself
who does not repay honest debts.
21. Does not thy great king fight his enemies in every way he can and with every force he has? They debts are thy enemies, they ran thee
out of Babylon. You left them alone and they grew too strong for thee. Hadst thou fought them as a man, thou couldst have conquered
them and been one honored among the townspeople. But thou has not the soul to fight them and behold thy pride hast gone down until
thou art a slave in Syria.
22. Have I the soul of a slave or the soul of a free man?
23. With a new visio, I saw the things that I must do. First I would go back to Babylon and face every man to whom I owed an unpaid debt.
I should tell them that after years of wandering and misfortune, I had come back to pay my debts as fast as the gods would permit.
24. My debts were my enemies, but the men I owed were my friends for they had entrusted me and believed in me.
25. I staggered weakly to my feet. What mattered hunger? What mattered thirst? They were but incidents on the road to Babylon. Within me
surged the soul of a free man going back to conquer his enemies and reward his friends. I thrilled with the great resolve.
26. The soul of a free man looks at life as a series of problems to be solved and solves them, while the soul of a slave whines.
27. Dost thy empty stomach make thy head exceedingly clear? Art ready to take the road that leads back to self respect? Canst thou see the
world in its true color? Has thou the desire to pay thy honest debts, however many they may be, and once again be a man respected in
Babylon?
28. Where the determination is, the way can be found. I had the determination so I set out to find a way. First I visited every man to whom
I was indebted and begged his indulgence until I could earn that with which to repay. Most of them met me gladly. Several reviled me but
offered to help me; One indeed did give me the very help I needed.
29. Gradually I was able to repay every copper and every piece of silver. Then at last I could hold up my head and feel that I was an honorable
man among men.
30. He found his own soul when he realised a great truth, a truth that had been known and used by wise men long before his time.
31. It has led men of all ages out of difficulties and into success and it will continue to do so for those who have the wisdom to understand
its magic power.
32. Therefore each time the moon is full, two-tenths of all I have earned shall be divided honorably and fairly among those who have trusted me
and to whom I am indebted. Thus in due time will all my indebtedness be surely paid.
33. To these creditors do I owe in total one hundred and nineteen pieces of silver and one hundred and forty-one pieces of copper. Because I
did owe these sums and saw no way to repay, in my folly I did permit my wife to return to her father and didst leave my native city and
seek easy wealth elsewhere, only to find disaster and to see myself sold into the degradation of slavery.
34. I am more determined than ever to carry through, being convinced that it is easier to pay one’s just debts thant to avoid them. Even though
I cannot meet the needs and demands of a few of my creditors i will deal impartially with all.
35. What a relief it proved to have our affairs in such a shape we were no longer persecuted by past due accounts.
36. Bablyon produced no strutting monarchs who sought to conquer the known world that all nations might pay homage to their egotism.
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analytics Reply:
October 11th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
@veryannoyedexclient, Eeeeeeeexcellent stuff. Sorry to hear of your losses but ………………….. get in the queue dude.
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The guy is a first class loser.
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If what the guy says on the selfgrowth website is not ALL BULLSHIT then why is the guy strapped for cash, going to his US tour with his wife on FAITH and he has people including the government chasing him for money? What a fucking liar the guy is. There are people out there who claim he lost 85% of their money in one of the best bull markets in history and still the guy claims to be an expert. The guy frightens me with his delusion and stupidity and I think everywhere he goes a warning goes in front of him.
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Yeah seems a good CHRISTIAN will boast about owning companies that were started by other people with other peoples ideas and other peoples money and other peoples brains so that when the shit hits the fan they have someone else to lay blame on, right? Wrong….this guy is the saddest liar of all time. He will do ANYTHING to cover up what hes up to and he will also do ANYTHING TO ANYONE to avoid responsibility. Just ask around, even Bob Proctor gave him the flick. What irks me more though is that he lied about his trading ability and hurt a huge amount of people to line his own pockets. I did my research and ran like hell.
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_cartman_ Reply:
March 19th, 2010 at 1:43 am
@shushu,
I wouldn’t put Bob Proctor on to high of a pedestal. His program was fraught with “hand picked” scammers too. Besides the fact that Bob didn’t give a flying fuck when Schirmer was first exposed, and he didn’t “distance” himself until he had to appear to “protect” his “own” name, when the heat was on life success. Why? Birds of a feather….birds of a feather…..
When all was said and done, Bob systematically fucked over his own affiliates/customers (okay granted anyone who spends 2k on “the science of getting rich”…is already primed to get taken), but Proctor had to get in line, because between “commissions” that “disappeared” (and went straight to MindValley, and DP Gates (Bob’s right hand “man”) I saw the top commission tree structure when MindValley opened up everyone’s account to a standard “password” which they mailed out to everyone (even those of us inside under “other” holes). I noticed and got to see a lot of what people made (DP gates, Mindvalley, Proctor’s friend, and a few others who claimed to make more then they acually did), then some other “idiot” found out and he informed Mindvalley, and they finally figured out what they did, and they cut off access (sad times)…before I could find the other top branch of the tree..it cascaded down and showed everyone under them…like a sideways pyramid).
It was not much of a surprise when Proctor cut out his “affiliate/customers”. Proctor took away any chance of commission income on more reasonable revenue streams and forum membership(this occurred when the sales of his $2K program were exhausted).
Then when he sold all the memberships to the “forum” (what a joke that was) Proctor then sold the program for an 80% discounted rate, later selling the program as a further discounted digital download product (in both revenue models he did not include his “customers/affiliates”, who actually bought that program as both a way to get rich (through ?alignment? with the universal mine), and as a “ready {defunct} business in a box”.
Between getting fucked over by mindvalley, gates and bob, in came “Maximum Impact Television Group” (a real universal alignment of “great” luck).
Maximum Impact Television Group was selling overpriced “sponsorship ads” on infomercial (sponsored infomercials…hold my hair while I puke) spots (the same concept as those ads on the bottom 5th of youtube videos…that was the concept (concept because they never delivered) they sold…it was supposed to be playing on “paid programming” time slots MITG purchased (no spots were purchased). Of course they didn’t call the “show concepts” infomercials, they were called “network quality cable shows”, which were supposed to air on paid programming time slots….uh huh…sure
Who was Maximum Impact TV Group? It was actually Maximum Impact productions (http://www.m-i-p.com/ ), a defunct California Video company that went bankrupt/broke and ceased operations in ’05.
The company and concept was used by Blackhawk funds (a penny stock corporation trading on the OTCBB symbol symbol BHWF), in a press release (used to pump the stock still available online) they claimed the Max Impact sales for ’06 was $13Million, from these non-existent concept shows. And with the pump, comes the dump, which the two CEO’s sold stock into (each and every time), to pay their salaries and other significant related expenses (on companies they owned).
Despite much effort to explain to “the secret” people what was going on, nobody took heed. They formed groups, pooled their money for these spots, and each group contributed to losing $5K a piece for these advertisements which never aired. And who was the seller of Maximum Impact advertising spots, a lady who was indicted in a “women empowering women” gifting fraud (empowering women…don’t you claim to empower women Andros)….allegedly involved with mindvalley….
So the only difference between Schirmer and Proctor, is in appearance of how they “help”. One just appears a little more sincere, but you can pretty much place them side by side.
And that folks…is the Law of Attraction….
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David Schirmer follows and tries to repeat what Ray Merriman the Cycle Analyst teaches. No doubt he gets his reports and probably just repeats what Merriman is saying too and could even claim he knows it all. HOWEVER
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that makes his claims of being the best cycle analyst on the planet (or something like that, typical bullshit claims) something of a major joke. He also obviously has not read Ray Merrimans comments for the year 2010 which go like this ….
“As we continue to approach the heart of the Cardinal Climax. Astrologically it peaks in late July, early August, but its force should be in evidence even now. For those who have been absent this discussion of the past 15 years, this is a very rare and powerful configuration involving a T-square between five of the outermost planets in the solar system, all on the first degrees of cardinal signs. This configuration started brewing in January 2008 when Pluto (along with Venus) entered Capricorn, a dynamic that will be in effect until 2024. By itself, it promises to transform government all around the world, WTIH A SPECIAL BENT TO EXPOSE CORRUPTION AND MAKE THOSE WHO HAVE ACTED UNETHICALLY ACCOUNT – AND PAY – FOR THEIR VIOLATIONS AGAINST HUMANITY. THIS IS NOT A GOOD TIME TO BE A dictator who abuses his/her population, or a CROOK WHO ORCHESTRATES HIS/HER OWN FINANCIAL GAIN AT THE EXPENSE (LOSS) OF THE COMMON MAN. And losses there will likely be during this period – huge losses, both financially and in terms of human lives.”
Could that be any clearer?
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Speaking about sChirmer, anyone go to one of his “seminars”…to see if he changed his shtick….or supply us with video?…
sPeaking about the master of the unIversal (sorry andRos…butt…you’re just daddy’s queen…cough..change it)I have to share a magickal experience.
I was asking the universal mine…..
_CM_ – uniVersal mine…I would like to be like scHirmer and just get checks in the mail (this makes sense if you saw the trailer on his site…if not…push pause on my post…and go see the trailer..NOW)…
you’re back….
Well, for those that may not be aware, the uNiversal is slightly hard of hearing (and my Cambodian accent doesn’t help much)….and sometimes things don’t always sound like they should (lesson:always right things down…writing vibrates longer…yeah…and visualize, Visualize…VISUALIZE!)
the uNiversal lined up…and all things past and present(some might think this is BS…butt…no) came into play….
Months ago, I signed up to be on turNers list (he is King twit http://twitter.com/oliver_turner …ummm was), and knew I needed holosinking (shoutout Bill…you rock…butt…mostly in your head) to embed things (see the universal helps ewe…butt..ewe have to be receptive to receive the universal too…it’s called taking action…very secret…now shut up!).
So the Milky way aligned with Mars, and according to Tania Gabrielle my cElebrity nuMerologest (to the stars), and cHristel huGhes my cElebrity
Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, Neuro-Linguistic Programming Master Practitioner, Time Line™ Therapy Practitioner, Certified Therapeutic Imagery Master, Holistic Life Coach (to the stars) (fuck me…this is your doing isn’t it Andros) all was ripe for the universal to act…and act it did….
Apparently when tuRner went underground he sold his list (how do I know…one email address for all my crap…butt I sign up under different names…to see which bonehead(s) distributes my fake information…and to whom…while I would have used Jenkins (was it jEnkins??) technique…it was designed for scammers (his buddies), to strip out the “identifier” before distributing the list).
Within 9 months of that request, I started getting a mail order bride catalogue in the mail……the universal rocks…..
So now I get chicks in the mail…sure every now and then I get Bill’s…butt…. I get mostly chicks…
hmmm….sounded better in my head….damn you Universal!!!! Damn you to hell!!! Excuse me while I go take a nice warm music bath….
PS – Sad news…
As of March 19th, Christel Hughes blogged to being full of shit (metaphorically) …To make a long story tolerable…Hughes is claiming to be infected with helicobactor pylori (a bacterium commonly found in fecal matter…I couldn’t make this shit up if I tried…well I could…butt…), of course Hughes is calling it a “virus” (noob Doctors…gotta love them), and is going on a 30 day journey, and wants you to come along…and fear not….everyone can also buy her $60 per month supplement…$70 if you’re lazy)….thank gawd the universal provides such caring people who only want to help us….
http://www.christelhughes.com/
WINNER!! ::
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oh my gosh what the hell is that? I found out that this guys highest priced course does not much more than tell people to read all of ganns books, get jeanne longs universal clock, merriman forecasts and an american ephemeris and you’ve go the whole freaking kit without paying a dime to a wanker. I dont believe he even gives you a trading plan to follow with that little package. Apparently you do all the fucking work yourself most likely while the guy sits back and works out who has got enough smarts to come up with a perfect plan and be the most useful to his future money making exercises. In my view if the guy wants to charge a house deposit for a course then he better fucking have some results to back it all up and not be exposed all the time for pathetic girly stuff and avoiding responsibilities by moving through companies and the like. Frankly I think the guy is full of absolute bullshit. To trade you only need to get a very basic course and then get your head straight its only made complicated by people like him. You dont need to pay a guy a fee the same as a house deposit to get not much less than a headache. Especially a guy who has proven what a wanker he is.
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Yep, heard all that many times but whats new. All these slimeballs do the same thing. They get other peoples work tweak it to make it look like they have done some work and then sell it off for stupid prices and offer no real backup service because they dont use the stuff themselves. I mean you’ve got to question if this guy uses Proctors material because Proctor divorced him. That tells me everything and anyone searching around the web for someone honest to buy from only needs to search for someone and not find them. Its pretty simple really. Dont screw anyone and they have no reason to complain about anything. People dont complain about little niggley things they complain when things suck majorly. To me it looks like things have been sucking majorly for this guy for years. I wonder who he screwed first to be honest that set him on a path of self destruction.
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If only those guys knew just how many fake emails and addresses are slathered all over their databases. Aint life sweet.
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This guy is so up himself on facebook. I’m sure he thinks everyone who is linked up to him LERVES him, so funny.
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The guy must suffer schizophrenia, he certainly demonstrates all the qualities. Sadly lacking in intelligence and ethics.
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Schirmers latest comment on his sucknsee seminar site:
“Untold Stock Market Secrets”
AND THE BIG SECRET IS…….wait for it……….he is actually not a successful trader apparently oh is that it or is it that he ripped off a lot of people claiming to be a successful trader when he was not. Has he ever shown anyone his trading records? Every teacher I have ever approached for trading lessons was able to show me their trading records but ahhhhhhhh not shitface Schirmer. And why is that? That is most probably because he LOST most the time and it would ruin his little scam if people knew his trading records.
According to one site Schirmer LOST 85% of a trading account while trading one of the best markets in history and while sucking in loads of people. Some fucking trading expert he is. In other words his ONLY ability was to LIE AND MARKET HIS CRAP and TAKE MONEY FROM PEOPLE the more the better. The guy is a lying fucking scumbag who will SAY ANYTHING to get people on his side and eventually take huge chunks of money from them. Now he is even more desperate it seems because hes got the fucking authorities after him. Shit I can only imagine what he’s saying in his pathetic secret seminars around the US.
HISTORY REPEATS they say HISTORY REPEATS SO YOU’VE BEEN WARNED.
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Schirmer is a parasitic arsehole and he’s living up to his record shamelessly. Ah but from the outside he comes across as a good down to earth fun loving family man who cares very much for you and yours and only wants the best for you. No so my friend it seems, its been proven way too many times that he’s after everything you’ll give him for FREE including your money and to hell with what happens in your life because of it. He doesnt give a fuck about you.
And dont forget to take particular notice to what his type do after the seminars at dinner and drinkies because they often have a habit of NEVER PICKING UP THE TAB (i.e. wink wink WAITING FOR EVERYONE ELSE TO PAY or HAVING A FREE RIDE ON EVERYONE ELSE FOR AS LONG AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE and they call it the secret). Oh yes, his type are arseholes all right and they know it. But when he’s cornered he’ll lie like a frightened hyena and make a fucking fool of himself as usual. They are like rats in the sewer, chased back down their holes because their shit stinks and they are full of germs.
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Schirmer quotes about himself “David’s passion is showing and helping other people succeed in business and in life.”
Yet he has failed miserably in all of the above. So if he thinks his life is a success then I am really mother theresa and I see a damned end for him and his foolish wife.
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If Schirmer is such a class act at trading why has no-one ever heard about the guy until he floated his own boat in the secret. Everybody knows that that production was full of personalised wind. I dont trust the guy, he seems far too sleazy to me.
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Just noticed that the loser is following over 25,000 people on twitter to get his stats up. You’ve got to laugh at the poor fat pig.
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I am a trader and I visited Australia earlier this year. I asked around about this guy and all the I spoke to had not even having heard of him but I did come across someone who said “it seems the guy is an act of biblical proportions”. I appreciated his wit and had a quiet laugh to myself because I’m thinking that was probably a reference to Schirmers apparent expeditious biblical interpretation of having an abundant. I’m just not sure what area of his life is the most abundant at the moment. Some people are sad asses.
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David Schirmer is one sick ass excuse for a human. He has threatened stolen cheated lied screwed sucked up and fucked up so many peoples lives its impossible to count but sure as hell he’d know them all because he would be looking over his shoulder every minute of every day wondering when any one of them might come back and haunt him. He claims he is an expert or abundance and wealth but tell me one has not had one successful venture he has ever had. He has just been caught again owing the taxation office another (yes another because the last time he was caught up with not paying his taxes was in 2004 when his trading company went belly up)quarter of a million dollars. If anyone else did it they would be beside themselves but mother fucker Schirmer doesnt give a shit about who he owes what to so long as he can support his own lifestyle and fake being a success. It seems he only gives a shit who he can delude and manipulate to get onto his books to sell sell sell his shit to and if they’ve got enough cash he’ll have that too. He is an evil prick who deserves what he gets and I suspect he’s got a hell of a lot worse coming yet.
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Chasem Reply:
February 7th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
@salebm, Schirmer is the most paranoid person I have ever met, why? Because he has lived such a greedy selfish destructive life that he will never again know what peace really is.
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Sad shit. Pathetic excuse for a human being, let alone one who feigns goodness and light.
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Schirmer does the same thing over and over and over again and get the same results over and over and over again. He always sends his stock reports MONTHS after everyone else and no doubt after he has milked everyone else for the information he needs to write it and APPEAR SMART. I dont trust the guy I never have even when my wife thought what he offered sounded interesting. I did enough research and asked enough questions to KNOW that the crap that comes out that guys mouth does not add up to his life. Either he is maintaining a gaggle of birds with his moula or he doesn’t have a fucking thing and his claims of being wealth all these years is one big fucking lie.
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I really like this video:
Sorry, I’m not sure how to embed it here. Just replace Jim Belushi with either Schirmer or Killstein.
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Rafael Marquez Reply:
May 10th, 2010 at 8:06 am
@Rafael Marquez, By Jim, I mean John Belushi.
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SNguyen Reply:
February 7th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
@Rafael Marquez, That is awesome man and yes put Schirmer in there because that is absolutely his character. Pretending to care about other people when his actions show its obvious as dogs balls he does not give a shit.
All he gives a shit about is where the next lot of money is going to come from to pay the car repayments, rent repaymenst, food repayments, credit cards repayments and every other possible repayment that he created for himself. Pay anyone else pffft, get the hell out of here.
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I want to pay tribute to the LEMMINGS WHO SAID NO to this guy. So many peopl just follow on and goo and gah because these idiots tell them that they know it all and why when in fact they know bugger all and get all their information off other people who really do know.
It takes guts to be a lemming who says no! To the people who did, my hat off to you THANKS!
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People judge by a persons actions not their intentions. This guy is a first class loser.
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In the words of a man that this guy could do nothing more than just dream about aspiring to be:
“It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you’ll do things differently.” – Warren Buffett
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what has happened with this guy, he spends his time criticising everyone else for what they are doing, he claims to be an expert yet has no visible wealth, he thinks he’s God yet so far hasnt avoided judgement. Sounds like a real loser to me.
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didems Reply:
February 3rd, 2011 at 2:00 am
@worthmore, It this this guy must spend more time in confessional with hiw wife than doing anything else in life. Crook when you have to twist everything you say to suit your life and try to live by it without getting caught. Dumbass Dave.
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too his dubious credit, jabba the hutt has a keen nose for the lacey ankle warmers – loose elastic and the law of gravity may have played a part, but not without some handy panty persuasion from that alien slug, the jabba. The slug has collected a few trophies on his way through, not bad for a slime with a trail running the length of the land. An auspicious alignment of celestial bodies must have been behind his rush to the confessional when the jabba fessed up to his loyal congregation about an off-market romp … several of the faithful left alone to ward off the illwind that blew.
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What? are you saying that Schirmer has made confessional for having a string of extramartial affairs? Well if you must pillagerpirate, thats old news, EVERYBODY knows about that including his wife who seems quite at home with the embarrassing details almost as if theres an enjoyment from the pretty palatable procession. Not sure what goes there, desparation, delusion or dumbness but i feel sure daddy diddle dandy dick aint stopping those antics any time soon. Hes not given any reason to stop playing precious pretty pants and he has six reasons to be a whopping example.
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What? are you saying that Schirmer has made confessional for having a string of extramartial affairs? Well if you must pillagerpirate, thats old news, EVERYBODY knows about that including his wife who seems quite at home with the embarrassing details almost as if theres an enjoyment from the pretty palatable procession. Not sure what goes there, desparation, delusion or dumbness but i feel sure daddy diddle dandy dick aint stopping those antics any time soon. Hes not given any reason to stop playing precious pretty pants and he has six reasons to be a whopping example.
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What? are you saying that Schirmer has made confessional for having a string of extramartial affairs? Well if you must pillagerpirate, thats old news, EVERYBODY knows about that including his wife who seems quite at home with the embarrassing details almost as if theres an enjoyment from the pretty palatable procession. Not sure what goes there, desparation, delusion or dumbness but i feel sure daddy diddle dandy dick aint stopping those antics any time soon. Hes not given any reason to stop playing precious pretty pants and he has six reasons to be a whopping example.
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Does Schirmer belong to church of scientology?
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He’s the pope, the cardinal, the bishop, the deacon, the priest, the minister and the very important financial controller of his own religion Schirmology. He is also in absolute control of the collection plate. He maintains that strict hierarchical structure and the same evil doctrine and extremely loose morals because it pays him well. He has a practiced method of articulating his own doctrine and it goes like this. Dont fuck with me or question anything that I say just because I fuck with you. Show me your money, sign here and dont say a word about what you see. He runs a yearly get together called Your Destiny. God help anyone who joins.
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Strick off action against Schirmers company Premier Funds limited.
Does this guy EVER honestly pay for anything?
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dildo Reply:
May 8th, 2011 at 1:26 am
@SNguyen, Pretty much all of Schirmers companies are currently facing stike off action, the house he is living in has been put up for rent again so he’s kicked out or cant afford to keep it, he has given back his dream car and had no choice but to admit he is not wealthy enough to own anything like a dream house. The guy is a fake a fraud and a freak but hey if he visualises he’s not, then he’s not ok. Dream big wanker schirmer because thats as good as your life will get.
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satan Reply:
June 27th, 2011 at 9:52 am
@dildo,looks for all the world like schirmers companies have all closed.
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I predict David Schirmer will end his life with nothing, blankety blank, zilch, zipperdy do dah, nooooooothing. Oh maybe a lot of really bad memories, thats it. Everytime he attempts to get something it will be taken from him because it never was his in the first place and you cant continually take and not give back. Its pretty ironic that his life is such a pathetic example and he’s attempting to teach people how to become rich. If thats not a big AHA moment then I’m not sure what would be.
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totonails Reply:
May 25th, 2011 at 7:05 am
@anonymouse, AHA so thats how he does it. I reckon he has tried all the tricks in the book to make his way around the law but in the end WHAT FOR?????? Just to be labelled a wanker, some success.
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I often read Schirmers comments on Twitter and think what the fuck is that guy on. I think I must be on his feed or something. I have followed several personal development coaches for years and believe that David Schirmer is a fraud. Nothing he says matches with what he lives and I find that very awkward and fake. Flattery from Schirmer is nauseating but he doesnt seem to get it which makes him all the more hilarious to have fun with at a party. I dont know how I ended up on his feed but I think he is one of those people who just adds thousands of people to get his numbers up so he can claim he has lots of friends. Pretty sad huh.
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@SNguyen, I’d say the authorities are onto him this time. You cant practice wankery that long and not get caught.
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choctease Reply:
June 22nd, 2011 at 10:24 pm
@Warren, Yes he’s had at least 10 companies closed on him recently and if he counted the amount of …. other peoples money …. he has used on himself he would get a god awful shock at how stupid he really looks now.
“It costs to be stupid. The stupider you are, the more it costs.”
~Sherrill Brown
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Many spruikers hit back at their victims or the people who confront them by using the same methods they use to cheat the public in the first place. They have been attracted to learning the methods because of the ill intent in doing so but thats not what they want you to believe. You just have to know what those methods are and it appears that this guy, Schirmer has mastered preaching them. Their trick is to deliberately lie and deceive people and then blame their victims, its a vicious cycle. The more people like Salty hurt these sorts of spruikers, the more the spruikers try to discredit Salty and everyone else who dares to challenge them ….. and the more foolish the spruikers end up looking. The other vicious cycle, the one they don’t like.
Most important lesson – Operate with honesty and integrity ALWAYS and there is nothing to explain away.
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Sincere1 Reply:
June 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
@Anonymous, David Schirmer is an opportunistic rip off merchant who inflates the price of everything he tries to sell because he factors his ego as having a value bigger than his head. The ASIC has brought to the publics attention the fact that he is prepared to lie to people in order to make money for himself to live in luxury houses and buy luxury cars and the like. All of which I have heard he has had to part with. Hmmmm interesting Mr Schirmer so you ARENT wealthy after all or do you equate wealth with the amount you can rip people off?
I agree with anon above, operate with honesty and there’s nothing to explain.
Ha, possible?
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Aussie1 Reply:
June 5th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
@Sincere1, Anyone who knows Schirmer knows he follows the tennets of the cult of selfishness, he always has and probably always will. He has chosen this path in life and it now forces him to keep the facade running to save his face. He is now a slave to his ego.
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Bozzo Reply:
June 8th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
@Aussie1, Yes and he should stop using other peoples tear jerker videos in an attempt to get notoriety himself. The guy us an asshole and has no idea how to appear genuine or honest about anything and he cant do anything without riding on the coat tails of someone else. Grow up asshole, get some balls and be a real man.
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Sigourney Reply:
June 17th, 2011 at 3:41 am
@Bozzo, I notice he does that and it looks so damn lame.
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I know Schirmer and what pisses me off about the guy more than anything is that he spends his entire time touting hype which is a violation of full disclosure because hype is not representative of overall success by any stretch of the imagination. The way he is constantly using other peoples quotes, stories and making up so much crap is testament to his poor character and even poorer choices. I also know that he has not been the person he has claims he is and while I’m not perfect myself I don’t go around sprouting about myself and how much I know about my God when such comments are not helpful or even measurable. The guy is very shallow and self centered and while he fools some people some of the time he will never continue to fool them all of the time. There always comes a point where the real person shows and his real person has proven to be a very insecure, paranoid and vulnerable individual with extremely narcistic tendencies. Everything he does he does for himself, he does not give a shit about anyone else ….. that he has proven.
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Because I know David Schirmer reads these comments, like all narcissistic wankers do, this quote is for you, you fake holy freak.
“It is better to be remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” ~ Various
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“Self-control is the chief element in self-respect,
and self-respect is the chief element in courage.”
~ Thucydides (c. 460 BC – c. 400 BC).
Schirmer is grossly lacking in all departments except GREED and EGO. He has no self control therefore he has nothing.
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Schirmer – Pay back your debts and earn some fucking respect!
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James Reply:
June 25th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
@Anonymous, What pisses me off about this guy is that he thinks he’s a fucking genius when he’s no more than a user. His results speak volumes and he should be watching JR closely because he’s probably next. Everyone has had enough of these piss poor users who have gigantic egos.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/01/us-arizona-sweatlodge-idUSTRE76001720110701
If there is one person who should be shitting himself now it is David Schirmer. If the jury can find JR guilty of causing emotional harm while charging $10,000 for the privilege of his fake presence then Schirmer, who it is alleged charged something like $30,000 or $50,000 or something fucking disgraceful for his inflated ego, should be shitting himself sick. Especially after he was exposed by the ASIC for being misleading and deception. How much clearer can that be? JR never had that issue. These guys have a massive amount to answer for.
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Bozzo Reply:
July 1st, 2011 at 7:49 am
@Sigfroid, Schirmer has been trying for years to set up his own cult following, the sort that just keeps on paying him every time he makes up a new pathetic product.
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@Sigfroid,
Schirmer is a jerk, but James Ray KILLED people.
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The name DAVID SCHIRMER is synonymous with fake. He spends his life sucking up to the fairer sex because it serves him well. He doesn’t give a shit what his actions do to even his own family even though he spends his spare time writing flowery fake shit about them. The only thing he learnt is to have thick skin which makes him feel even less. Sad sad bunch who have nothing.
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WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING
“Spiritual materialism” (see the whole link here huffingtonpost.com/alison-rose-levy/connecting-the-dots-when-_b_884877.html)
How To Spot A Fraud Guru
Some warning signs:
If everything has to be perfect, and positive, and anything less is banished, watch out. Life has many colors and they aren’t all pretty.
Where someone else’s ground rules supercede yours, be alert.
If people spend a lot of time rationalizing, reframing or denying the leader’s inconsistent or unkind behavior, pay attention. For example, he wasn’t acting punitively towards his ex, he was “helping her to know God.”
If you don’t feel free to speak up, that should tell you something.
If the crowd is going along, don’t assume that that means a teacher “must” be OK. If you have patterns or a family history of disempowerment, punishment or abuse and are unsure whether or not a new group is safe to participate in, check with friends or counselors to assure that you will be safe.
I discovered Schirmer was a fraud and I ran like hell! I did not like the way he would patronize his wife in front of his seminars while very obviously flirting up his female staff. When asked about trading stuff he would avoid the question or put the question back onto the person asking it. He would avoid debate and always have to be the one right and his comeback was always to blame the person questioning. His living arrangements did not sound like wealth. He boasted about getting around everything. He also boasted about being an expert marketer. He would call buying his crap an investment like the word sell and sale was converted into investment apparently another marketing trick. All of these things sent shivers down my spine because nothing added up.
Nobody has the right to Lord it over anyone else and especially not someone who has been found by the authorities to deceive and manipulate people. I also know of many people who are still suffering from what he has done to them. Like this article says … the “true believers,” and those requiring therapy, chat rooms and years to recover from their traumatic experience as the Great Hoo-Ha’s student. I have proved that these people are completely shameless. And if you challenged them about anything here they would blame YOU or anyone making the accusation against them and if it gets too hot or you get too close to the truth they start making THREATS.
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anonymous Reply:
July 2nd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
@Shadowone, Get out, I’ve known all of this for a long time. I think I might know you. Agree with everything you’ve said.
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Schirmer says “If Abundance and Prosperity r first created in the mind, then my results are my choice AND my responsibility:
UTTER BULLSHIT and coming from a first class BULLSHITTER
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Anonymous Reply:
July 3rd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
@Coco, Yes all I can say is that its pretty sad when you have to live in expensive houses and drive expensive cars JUST to keep up the charade. Imagine if that money was put to better use? Actually come to think of it, it would solve a lot of his problems. Its amazing how long some people go on preaching to everyone around them who can clearly that its all so very superfluous and pointless. I do notice that its all unravelling now.
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Schirmers the type who would buy twitter followers just to make it look like hes got a massive following. You can buy them for about $150 for 2200.
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pepper Reply:
July 4th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
@sentinel, He’s broke isnt he?
“It might be wise to declare oneself bankrupt and start afresh.”
either that or enslave the family for another 20 odd years. Guess it all comes down to pride. Um ….. and there’s lots of it.
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Seesaw Reply:
July 18th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
@pepper, Is Schirmer still operating? I had heard he was so down on his luck he turned to religion. Guess he will take over from JR and call himself GOD now. The stupidity never ends.
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“CHARACTER EQUALS DESTINY”
This guys character has been on display for years and so his destiny. Maybe only a God could forgive him now.
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ROFLMAO Schirmer in godness disguise http://victorylifechurch.org.au/faith-bible-training-centre-2/
but note the footnote *F.B.T.C reserves the right to change the above curriculum without prior notice.
get a foot in, manipulate the flock and fleece them whooohooo another lot of suckers. ministry of helps yourselfs schirmer style.
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soso Reply:
July 22nd, 2011 at 9:03 pm
@cheeky, LOL that is so funny. There is something really sadistic about that guy. He seems really sleek at talking but his life looks shit.
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finis Reply:
July 22nd, 2011 at 10:57 pm
@cheeky, Schirmer is having a crack at sucking the church dry right now. You can donate to the church via Schirmers website and probably via Schirmers bank account – fastly though because donations will run out very soon
http://victorylifechurch.org.au/donate/
And if thats not enough you can go to one of his lessons on the bible according to Schirmer. He is very keen to teach anyone who will listen his version of ephesians. Hes just so so excited about ephesians because he wants to tell everyone how life is according to Schirmer.
What a fraud.
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David Schirmer is a first class asshole. He is a lying cheating opinionated asshole and thats why so many people hate him.
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checkerplate Reply:
September 3rd, 2011 at 4:09 am
@D Benson, You just discovered this now or is it something you’ve known for quite a while. I’ll tell you something else you should already know ….. assholes NEVER change.
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seasoned sydneysider Reply:
September 5th, 2011 at 12:55 am
@checkerplate, You lookup websites Schirmer ran and in typical fake guru fashion they are all closed for repair, unfinished, promises not kept, bad rap removed or up himself so much its like hes having an affair with himself. These days he seems to also be claiming to be a God expert which makes the stuff he was trying to teach people a load of crap and himself look pretty darn tragic. What about that wife of his though, how tragic is she? Who could stick around a wind bag like that and feel good about themselves?
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analytics Reply:
October 11th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
@seasoned sydneysider, Maybe he should start working at McDonalds for a bit of experience. That would be a start.
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Abraham Lincoln : You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.
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Just wondering, have Schirmers predications about being a multimultigazillionaire ever come true? Whatever floats your boat fat arse. Leave me on my island where its peaceful, the birds are stunning, the drinks aplenty and the breeze is just right.
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Some of the best places to find honest information about people who operate like this include:
Public, moderated forums free from company sponsorships (like this one, not any moderated by the person/s you are investigating because they will remove any negative comments about themselves and they blame the victims to manipulate the reader.)
Review sites that allow comments and discussions (like this one, not any moderated by the person/s you are investigating because they will remove any negative comments about themselves and they blame the victims to manipulate the reader.)
Offline sources such as friends and colleagues or professional organizations who have dealt with this person in the past. (these are always the best guide to how a person can be trusted to do business with. If this person has a poor business record and their business is structured in a way that they are avoiding responsibility like in hidden trusts etc., then you have every reason to never invest anything more than a dollar without having all documentation checked by one or two legal professionals first and if they refuse to allow you to do this then NEVER have anything to do with them).
Avoiding getting caught is something we all owe it to ourselves to do.
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