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Unicorn Army said:
So, is this the end of major combat operations in SchirmerLand? Doesn’t seem like he’ll stop until the bracelets go on…
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SD Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 12:18 am
@Unicorn Army ::
Nope! Not the end. And one hopes it’s not the end for the Aussie government either. I don’t see “banning” him making much of a difference in terms of his behavior … he’s already proven he has nothing but contempt for the law.
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keeptalking Reply:
July 1st, 2010 at 12:41 am
@Unicorn Army, Isnt Schirmer a CHRISTIAN? Some freakin Christian.
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Schirmersachilles Reply:
January 27th, 2011 at 3:23 am
@keeptalking, Last time I checked Schirmer was a law unto himself and he got so confused when he was told otherwise. What a sport he is.
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# 25 June 2010 at 12:07 am

Cosmic Connie said:
As I noted in a conversation on Twitter the other day, the ban won’t keep Schirmer out of the biz. He can still hawk his frauducts — in the U.S. as well as in Oz. And if he doesn’t try to blame Satan or a so-called “scorned woman” for the ASIC’s actions — as he has for nearly all of his other troubles — he might pull a Kevin True-dough and simply use the ban as a marketing tool: “My programs worked TOO well. I was making too many people rich, and THEY don’t want you to be rich, so they’re trying to silence me.”
And, sadly, some people will buy that. Yes, even now.
PS ~ I’ve had a few Twitter exchanges with Schirmer myself. He was very polite. He just said to me that I don’t check my facts and that I often get things wrong. (That was the same thing another of my fave snargets has said to and about me, come to think of it…)
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Jean D Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
@Droid @Cosmic Connie Great post. At the risk of sounding ignorant on this topic,because I am, do we not have comparable statutes and punishments in the US for Squirmer’s type of criminal dealings? And what IS happening with True-dough,legally? I surfed across him and his cleavage-presenting-bimbos-gone-wild-with-the-prospect-of-getting-rich-from-lying infomercial just a couple of days ago.
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SD Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
@Jean D ::
We do have comparable statutes :: in fact we have much better statutes. And better funded enforcement. Australia is bit slipshod in the legal department. But our financial regulator couldn’t ban him :: because he doesn’t have any credentialing in the first place :: he’s just some asshole shooting his mouth off.
Fraud is rampant across all of our systems … and none of our governments {also riddled with fraud} are doing anything about it. It’s a sad state of affairs. By the time they “ban” him :: he’s already basically destroyed himself and everyone around him.
No one took action against James Ray until he killed people :: and even then he’s only being prosecuted for the murders. What about the out in the open fraud? The unconscionable contracts? The pre-paying? The pyramid scheming? The unpaid overtime? The employment law abuses? The financial advice without a licence? Therapy without a licence? Misrepresentations and false advertising? State sales taxes paid on sales made at seminars? False testimonials from people with undisclosed financial interests? I mean sheesh!
I guess lying is okay.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
@Jean D, The U.S. government (specifically, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC)) has been after True-dough for years for various things. It isn’t exactly the same type of trouble that Schirmer had in Australia; Schirmer’s woes are with the Oz equivalent of the S.E.C. But it’s government trouble anyway for True-dough, who has been fined out the kazoo. He was also supposedly banned from doing most types of infomercials until 2011, but that certainly didn’t stop him from doing *some* infomercials, as The Bimbo Show demonstrated.
KT has long framed his problems in First Amendment issues, with a good measure of the old “I have the secrets that THEY don’t want you to know” shtick that seems to be his main marketing tool.
I believe, Jean, that the infomercial to which you’re referring is part of KT’s “Free Money” series, the most recent of which he filmed with “Denise & Sara” (one of whom is a Playboy bunny, ex-Playmate of the Year, etc.). The infomercial features lots of legs and cleavage and zero facts.
It is enormously entertaining, in large part because True-dough uses it as yet another outlet for complaining that the mean US government is oppressing him. The cleavage gals look properly dismayed as he talks about how Unca Sam done him wrong. In the same infomercial, True-dough reveals that recently the guv’ment secretly passed a law giving folks $4,500 to buy new cars, but deliberately kept it under their hats because THEY don’t want us to know about the free money that is available to all. The cleavage gals, of course, express surprise at this clandestine cash-for-cars deal, and KT rolls his eyes and says that probably only the politicians & the politicians’ close relatives knew about it.
No doubt about it, KT is a fount of information that “they” don’t want you to know about — in other words, all the info that “they” cleverly conceal on TV, the Internet, etc. Virtually every claim he makes can be fact-checked, but he doesn’t seem to care. His target market is people who are smart enough to click the “buy now” button or pick up that phone (and, of course, have the resources to cover their impulse purchases), but are either too stupid, too naive, too impaired, or in too much of a hurry to bother substantiating any of his claims.
One of the most recent issues KT has been dealing with is a $37 million fine, which he could more than afford to pay, but he is fighting it on principle, he says. And, although he is supposedly rolling in true dough — and has far more money than he will ever need (or so he has claimed numerous times) — he is actually asking for donations to help him fight his legal battles.
http://naturalcureshealthinstitute.com/
He says that he is fighting the battle for all of us. The headline on his legal defense site reads:
“If I don’t win – YOU WILL LOSE your constitutional right to free speech!”
“I NEED your support BEFORE it’s too late!”
Later on the page he writes: “Here’s the bottom line. I believe the government wants to lock me in prison for life and virtually burn all of my books. Your first amendment right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH is being violated.”
If you donate a thousand bucks or more you get to have a free dinner with True-dough himself. What a deal.
As for Schirmer (I haven’t forgotten whom this post is about), he is probably watching True-dough and is busily taking notes.
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SD Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
@Connie ::
Where can I watch this Girls Gone Wild crapfomercial?
… and I don’t really see Schirmer as the note taking type.
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WTH? Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
@Cosmic Connie,
“His target market is people who are smart enough to click the “buy now” button or pick up that phone…but are either too stupid, too naive, too impaired, or in too much of a hurry to bother substantiating any of his claims.”
Yikes. Bash victims, much?
Why the needless insults towards the same people that this site is trying to protect?
Trudeau’s MAIN target audience actually seems to be people who are desperate & nearly hopeless (i.e. have kids to feed, are about to lose their homes, have lost their job, can’t find a new job or get a loan, etc – those who seriously need money & help, from anywhere), people who legitimately have been screwed over by their government & are consequently bitter, people with serious health conditions (which he targeted with his phony “cures” info), and people who are somehow disadvantaged, in general.
Those who oppose putting these scam artists out of business usually justify themselves by calling the con artists’ targets “too stupid” or “too naive”, so propagating that sort of mentality doesn’t really help the cause. Even the term “too impaired” seems condescending.
(Not to mention the fact that politicians – especially in the last US Presidential race – targeted this same, desperate audience, & used a lot of false facts & phony promises to woo people, also. Would you say that all who voted for the winner were “too stupid”, too? Naive & hopeful, perhaps, but, all in all, almost all public figures & scammers (from Obama & McCain to James Ray & D. Schirmer, respectively) are trying to seduce people that are just “needing” & searching for something, and have no other alternatives – a plight that hardly makes them all stupid.)
@SD Really informative stuff here. Thanks!
Now when I see your blog, though, I can’t help but wonder if we’ll ever get to see a (pseudo-) advert of the Droid in Angelina Jolie-esque poses with the tagline: “Who is Salty”?
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
@WTH?,I see how you could have interpreted my remarks as “victim-bashing.” But “stupid, naive, impaired” etc. is how I imagine True-dough himself visualizes his market. Though I have been told by those close to him that he is really a sweet, sincere guy, I remain firm in my opinion that there is cynicism beneath his sincere, passionate consumer-advocate demeanor. Why else would he make such extravagant and sometimes utterly stupid claims? For instance, why would he come out and say (on an infomercial for the Your Wish is Your Command CD set) that he was a member of a secret society from 1975 till 1999? He was only twelve years old in 1975!
True-dough even laughs about people who buy the same kinds of products over and over, or go to workshops over and over, and never change their lives. In a conversation with Joe Vitale on the KT Radio Network last summer, he and Joe had a good jolly laugh about those poor schmucks. They didn’t mention that the serial purchasers for whom they had so much pity and contempt are also part of their target audience.
I admit that in my own more cynical moments I sometimes wonder if some people *do* “get what they deserve” — after all, there is so much information about scams and scammers, and some people just turn a blind eye to all of the negative stuff, even after they’ve been shown that themselves are being fleeced. But this doesn’t mean that I am lacking in compassion for those who get screwed, even those who seemingly went into it with eyes wide open. (I do lose patience with people who indignantly defend the con artists, even after having been screwed by them, because they think they’ll win points with the scammers somehow. But that’s another subject.)
And btw, when I said “impaired” I was thinking of people who stay up all night drinking (or indulging in other intoxicants) and watching infomercials. I used to be one of those people, so I know what I’m talking about.
You are of course correct when you say that many people keep coming back to KT and other hucksters because they are desperate in some way, perhaps having been screwed over by the government or by general life circumstances. Moreover, there is just enough “truthiness” in some of the things KT says to give him a smidgen of credibility. Yes, the government is corrupt in many ways, and yes, the big pharmaceutical companies are more concerned with profits than our health… and that is one reason why KT is able to reach so many people.
No, I’m not a victim-basher. However, I do think that consumers need to take a little responsibility to educate themselves. IMO, one of the most responsible things they can do is read blogs like this one. :-)
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
@SD, As soon as I saw that infomercial on TV I raced to my computer to see if I could find it on the Internet. I did find a link to information about an earlier version (recorded in 2009), but the one I was talking about is the 2010 version.
However, here’s a link to a good infomercial review blog that has a clip from the 2009 True-dough Girls Gone Wild ‘mercial.
http://tinyurl.com/23fsbkt
Meanwhile I’ll keep looking for a link to the 2010 gem. I’m sure it’s still being aired on TV; I saw it on a Saturday afternoon on one of our local UHF channels last month.
You’re probably right about Schirmer not being the note-taking type. But I’m sure he’s watching and learning anyway.
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corsair Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 7:13 am
@Cosmic Connie,
The funny thing is KD by all appearances is a hell of a salesman. It makes me wonder why he doesn’t just find a legitimate product to market. He could use the same devices but instead of “outrageously over the top claims” could tone it done to just “over the top”. In fact, for some products “over the top” claims aren’t required at all, just a different angle.
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stoic Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 12:01 am
@Cosmic Connie,
I’ve never followed the career of Mr Turdo, but I gave a little shudder of apprehension on reading about his fighting fund to help with his legal costs.
So he is soliciting donations from the victims he has already fleeced to pay for his defence against charges of fleecing those very victims? This has a boringly familiar circularity.
I had a sudden vision of DeathRays inevitable upcoming vid series on youtube, where he frames his legal predicament Turdo-style and promises moronic wealth to any who donate to fund his legal costs against the demonic forces of law and order.
You couldn’t make it up–although plenty already have.
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Jean D Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
@stoic, When I taught at a Federal Correctional Institute,we were warned that con artists are internally driven to con people.I experienced this first-hand when one of my students submitted a journal he’d spent hours copying from another inmate’s writings. I was shocked because it wasn’t a graded” assignment. My supervisor explained that the student’s only motive was to distort the truth and make me believe something that wasn’t real.
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_cartman_ Reply:
June 27th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
@Cosmic Connie,
He can still hawk his frauducts (no doubt about it), however, the findings by ASIC exposes him to personal liability, and will make amending any current claims and adding Schirmer in any legal proceedings against the company simple.
The “burden” of proving that his company was merely a corporate veil, and was only a vehicle used to “limit” liability is no longer necessary (since ASIC’s findings that deliberate fraud/deception was involved). Also, the findings of deception/fraud, should “nullify” any time limitations (for civil remedies), that may have since lapsed.
Hopefully all those effected get together, and start a civil action against David Gary Schirmer, if they haven’t already.
Plaintiffs….start your lawsuits…..
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AJ Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
@Cosmic Connie, As I discovered Connie, it appears his clients are WAAAAY more wealthy than he is and could jealousy be a motive
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Denise Reply:
February 3rd, 2011 at 4:25 am
@Cosmic Connie, Which scorned woman? I’ve known many of them.
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
February 3rd, 2011 at 11:56 am
@Denise, When Schirmer’s…um…troubles first came to light back in 2007, largely as a result of the expose on A Current Affair, he specifically blamed an ex-employee/associate of his, with whom he had apparently had a dalliance, for spreading lies about him. And, of course, he blamed the tabloid journalists too. But in many of his writings he also seemed to be implicating Satan for fueling the fires of criticism and “hatred” against him.
IOW, it was always someone else’s fault, not his.
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# 25 June 2010 at 9:51 am

Dave Q. said:
Man, is that post ever sweet! Talk about just desserts.
The Bible quote was excellent, and smack-dab-center in the bulls-eye!
FTW
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# 25 June 2010 at 10:47 am

Yakaru said:
This is really great news. He’ll keep going of course, but this paints an even bigger target on him. As Connie notes, he’ll try and use it in his promotional material, “the man they tried to silence”. Maybe Rhonda Byrne and the writers of The Secret were being prescient when they said all that stuff about the law of attraction being kept secret by world leaders. Indeed several law enforcement agencies seem to be taking an interest in the propontents of the idea.
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Jean D Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
@Yakaru, We can only hope so.There must be something done. Curious to see Tuesday’s 20/20 program.
Interesting how my post about conmen directed at the Trudeau/Ray comment by our good friend,stoic, resulted in 2 votes down and Connie’s below has been voted into negative. Wonder which of the sham monsters and/or their zombies might be reading the comments here?
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stoic Reply:
June 27th, 2010 at 3:31 am
@Jean D,
Anybody mentioned here in the ‘scam bracket’ will be taking a continuing interest–it has an effect on the bottom line and these are people whose only interest is that bottom line.
The fact that they or their minions try to game the thumbs up/down button is hilarious, what a pathetic waste of time!
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Denise Reply:
February 3rd, 2011 at 4:31 am
@Yakaru, Thats because they are fakes and nobody likes a fake. Schirmer is a classic, he really truly does think he’s someone special in fact he tells everyone that he tells himself on a daily basis that he is someone special. when you do that long enough you’ve surely got to have quite an opinion of yourself. Schirmer has no idea what the LOA is about he has just twisted it to suit his mad keen desire to get rich by taking everything of everyone elses.
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# 25 June 2010 at 3:25 pm

PJ said:
I’m guessing that this information will be spreading like a worm around the people who have been shafted by this guy. In typical Schirmer style he conveniently picks verses out the bible to suit his case and also conveniently overlooks the verses that show him up to be the FRAUD that he NOW IS. This is gold man, gold. Once an arsehole always an arsehole. Now hopefully since ASIC have moved, they will keep a close eye on everything else he has done, is doing and thinks he’ll get away with doing in the future. Hasn’t Schirmer been on their radar for years? I recall they got onto him several times before and shut him down for a while too. No letting an arsehole go this time though. This is good news I’ll be party to the spread of useful information.
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# 25 June 2010 at 3:44 pm

Anthony Mahavick said:
Could this make it harder for Squirmer to come to the States?
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Cosmic Connie Reply:
June 26th, 2010 at 10:53 am
@Anthony Mahavick, David Schirmer has already been to the States several times and is no doubt planning another trip. At one time not long ago he had an Austin, Texas address listed on one of his sites as his U.S. address. I’m sure it was just a mailbox and not a physical office address, but still… I also know that on one of his U.S. visits within the past couple of years he had meetings with Perry Belcher and Ryan Deiss.
When Googling for more info on a Schirmer-Texas connection, I came across this March 2009 comment on Steve Pervlina’s forum, from one Michael Murphy.
http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/steve-pavlina/10801-david-schirmer-exposed-blog-2.html#post317954
Murphy gently took Pervlina to task for giving publicity to the Schirmer exposé that aired on the Aussie tabloid show, “A Current Affair” (aka ACA). Murphy wrote:
“…consider what [the post and its high ranking in the search engines] is doing to this man who isn’t at all what ACA attempted to make him out to be. He has never been charged with any wrong doing and was actually cleared by Australia’s equivalent of the SEC.”
Now, in the interest of fairness I’ll say that I too initially reported that Schirmer had been cleared by ASIC, but I quickly corrected that mistake. http://tinyurl.com/2g9l67f
At any rate, I wouldn’t put anything past Schirmer in his attempt to salvage his New-Wage/hypoChristian career. The U.S. is still a pretty open market.
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P B Reply:
February 3rd, 2011 at 4:43 am
@Cosmic Connie, Ahahaha I just read the link to Steve Pavlina blog and I cant help but laugh. Yet another sucker roped in by Schirmer. I wonder who paid for that lunch?
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# 25 June 2010 at 7:42 pm

Kann said:
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“no matter how untruthful or destructive it may be, and then like true cowards, they run and hide behind their secret identity or television station or media machine.”
Pretty on point there.
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ssstutterer Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 6:08 am
@Kann, Yes Kann Dave is a LOSER!!
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Chenei Reply:
October 21st, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@ssstutterer, Where there is smoke there is always fire. Some people are just slow learners. Enlightening blog.
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# 26 June 2010 at 6:04 pm

Ian said:
Oh Fat Dave,
Even the government thinks you’re full of shit. Good game, piggy.
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# 27 June 2010 at 3:56 pm

chalicedone said:
LOL Fat Dave looks like hes saying I’m just a itty bitty guilty your honor or does that mean something else?
Good work everyone on nailing this greedy sleazebag.
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# 30 June 2010 at 5:24 pm

keeptalking said:
For the fffrequently caught stuttering David Schirmer as another person has stated, The Secret is not only drivel—it’s pernicious drivel because the self appointed God and Guru himself has been publicly and permanently exposed as a fraud. It was also Schirmer who stated early on that the truth will come out ….. and so it has … how freakishly ironic!
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# 1 July 2010 at 12:39 am

jonesy said:
Schirmers secret website is full of so much bullshit its like looking at regurgitated cat fur balls. Schirmer is a fat arse little man with an ego as big as his arse and a brain the size of what must be his winky. If only he had as many dollars as he claims he can make in a minute he’d be worth looking at but seeing as he cant even do that with any shred of honesty he is a worthless piece of puke. Now he’s trading on the secret the poor fool because the government have shut his trading business up to the point where its probably not even worth pursuing any more because if he as much as says one word wrong they’ll have him in the clink in a heartbeat. Probably right where they want the arrogant prick. So now you can bet he will suddenly become the world guru expert on everything from your mothers water issues to your daughters boyfriends rashes. Oh yes, Davey has ALL the answers that you would ever need he just HAS SHIT FOR BRAINS.
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# 1 July 2010 at 4:55 am

dude said:
GOT THE BASTARD! NOTHING he does now will have ANY credibility. I always knew that this guy was a liar now its been proven. THANKS!!!!!!!
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# 3 July 2010 at 2:30 am

imlookin said:
Schirmy has gone VERY quiet, he must have been caught and had to move again. What a shit life.
Honesty is best policy, Schirmy. Greed will kill you.
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# 7 July 2010 at 5:43 pm

010101 said:
These types ALWAYS get their just deserts and they ALWAYS claim to be innocent to the bitter end. They are deluded wannabes who suck off other people to survive and lie and cheat to themselves and their families just to keep up appearances and keep the charade going as long as possible. This guy had this all coming and this is only the start of it no doubt. What he’s hiding in debts and destructive actions is anybodies guess but I bet it aint too pretty for his much suffering family. I am guessing that he’ll challenge the ASIC findings even though he must know that hes a shit head brain dead fool for getting sucked into a life of greed and dishonesty while claiming to be a good living honest christian missionary or something of the sort. I wonder if his church thinks hes such an asset now?
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# 14 July 2010 at 3:25 am

Felix said:
By the way Schirmer should actually read his Bible not just parrot it like he does. I dont recognise anywhere where it approves cheating lying and stealing as acceptable qualities of a Christian. But then since when did it matter to a cheat, a liar, and a thief that he was actually in the wrong? Leopards dont change their spots do they.
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# 14 July 2010 at 3:33 am

foghorn said:
“Lies – Are an INTENTIONAL VIOLATION OF THE TRUTH”
Caught the bastard. There is no up from here Schirmer, keep digging.
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# 3 August 2010 at 12:37 am

foghorn said:
copy from facebook
And the book say it clearly .
The secret page 184 : You get to fill the blackboard of your life with whatever you want
The book declare that the controls for choosing to do or not to do something is in how much joy and fun you are going to get from this work . without presenting a religious and moral control determine your path and control the issue they even call for whatever bring for you joy and fun do it . and what causes the opposite then you should stay away from it . what ever it is .
What is related to this point and could be counted as a practical application for it . The loud financial scandal to one of the secret teachers , The Australian businessman ( David Schirmer ) Who is telling us in the secret about the secret impact in attracting money . and how is just imagining money coming in the mail , He started to collect money !!!!! Then the truth emerged and the matter have been exposed and it’s not a secret anymore . That this money which he collected through the mail , He collect it by deceiving many people . and cheated them by false shares to build on his in sincerity a big fortune to give us by his behavior an accurate portray to selfishness which the secret calling for .
And the nonexistence for faithful moral dimension in the book .
And the matter as the book say : You have to fill your life with what you want , what ever it is .
If you want to know this financial scandal details and see reports about it , You can google it or search in youtube website using the sentence : ” david Shirmer exposed . “
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chippy Reply:
February 11th, 2011 at 12:32 am
@foghorn, Hard reading foghorn but spot on. Mr Schirmer has proved that its possible to dig a hole so big that he wont get out of it in a lifetime unless he accepts someones help. Hes a seriously sick and deluded man who is far too proud to acknowledge that he needs help or accept it when its offered.
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# 4 August 2010 at 12:03 am

disgusted again said:
Here’s another example of someone using spirituality and religion to scam people. His name is John Roney, he was involved with a lot of IM gurus including Alex Mandossian. He started off trying to sell some kind of MLM vacation crap , my guess is he loves to travel because now he’s peddling Christian missionary scams. His entire blog is “the lord” this and “the lord” that, trying to use god to rip people off for his own vacations.
http://www.JohnRoney.com is the main site; Have a look at the archives though
http://web.archive.org/web/20040704001012/www.johnroney.com/files/
http://web.archive.org/web/20050316022427/http://www.johnroney.com/index.html
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://johnroney.com
He’s even involved in some kind of real estate investing scam http://reiconferences.com/
John Roney may need to have a close evaluation in the future. Guess when scammers run out of bullshit to scam they can always “turn to God”, just like convicts in prison.
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# 4 August 2010 at 1:01 pm

anonymous said:
Aha they have finally caught DOUBLE LIFE DAVE huh, well done. If there was one person who you wouldn’t want near your partners it was this creep. Something about him and his brothers that was so sleazy it creeped you out.
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# 7 August 2010 at 9:43 pm

Cosmic Connie said:
Speaking of the Wanker of Oz, remember that A Current Affair ambush in Kiwi Land a few years ago, when David hid in the loo rather than answer a reporter’s questions, leaving his marketing guy to talk to said reporter outside the bathroom? The young man who did potty duty for his boss was none other than Warren Henningsen, who not long after that had the good sense to leave Schirmer’s crumbling empire. Schirmer put a spin on it of course, implying that he had let Warren go for various misdeeds. For his part Warren was quite discreet, preferring not to make any public utterances about his former employer.
He did, however, go on to try to make his way in the selfish-help industry nonetheless, and is still laboring to do that. I am on his email list, and I received a notice today of an Oz wealth event in which Warren is going to be one of the speakers. The price structure is pretty much par for the IM/selfish-help course:
Special Offer $297 per ticket
(Normally $497, Value $9,497!)
Here’s one of Warren’s web sites.
http://myabsolutesuccess.com/
If you go there you’ll see he’s trying to ride every wave he can, including that “Zero” obsession:
http://myabsolutesuccess.com/finding-zero/
He is also apparently a Proctor affiliate…well, good luck with that, Warren.
http://myabsolutesuccess.com/bob-proctors-learning-systems/
(Judging from the comments on that post I’d say Warren needs to start moderating.)
I dunno… I kind of almost feel sorry for the guy.
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Kanto Reply:
January 30th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
@Cosmic Connie, David Schirmer promised a book called IF I CAN YOU CAN to people who attended a Mind and Money Event he held in Australia with Bob Proctor. It turns out he never wrote the book or anything for that matter and he certainly never sent it to anybody. Can we assume that it was Warren Henningsen who actually wrote the book and Schirmer attempted to steal it from him to sell under his own name and title? Thats the type of thing that Schirmer has become notorious for. Like the Succeed Magazine that was doomed to fail for the same reason. The guy who started it ended up resigning as Director just to get away from Schirmer it appears. He cant help stealing other peoples stuff, putting his own name on them and selling them off as his own crap. Is he really that thick that he cant even see what everyone else can? Oh and also there was his stint in court with a guy called John Fitgerald for the something similar, stealing Fitzgerald name or idea or product or something maybe check out the court documents. Then Proctor sued Schirmer and his wife for deliberate deception or something to that effect. God this guy is an asshole isnt he and now he’s starting on the kids. Scary stuff, really scary stuff.
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Anonymous Reply:
February 11th, 2011 at 12:36 am
@Kanto, Warren Henningson has a national sales role for a security company now and is in a position of good standing and respect. I bet he is absolutely thrilled to shove that in Schirmers face (as every other person who schirmer screwed over and bagged afterwards would be). I find Schirmers actions towards other people despicable and even more despicable when you think he is attempting to practice Christianity.
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Warren Henningsen Reply:
March 26th, 2012 at 11:31 pm
@Cosmic Connie, Hi Connie! It’s been quite a while since we’ve spoken. Please don’t feel sorry for me. I am really happy just trying to help people enjoy their lives more. I have not charged anyone for any services for more than a year now and continue to do what I can to make lives better. I don’t sell any products (must remove the Proctor material from my website) and have not run an event for a very long time.
I trust that all is well in your life and would love to catch up for a chat. Just drop me a line when you feel you’d like to.
Warren
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# 8 August 2010 at 8:48 am

anonymous said:
@Cosmic Connie, You gotta feel sorry for anyone caught up with shonky shitface schirmy dont you? That Warren seems a pretty innocent chap and sadly disillusioned enough to believe that newage brochures sell well. I think all those people will come to their senses one of these days when the current string of newage self appointed gurus die off poor, homeless and massively in debt to their egos. Its getting very obvious that the real trip is to see how much you can get the bank to give you to fund the lifestyle you want and then you visualise how to pay it back. That sort of funding technique is no naughties now. Cash is King and will be for many many years to come so when people like this prey on others and pretend to be wealthy its a bit well, stupid.
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Kanto Reply:
January 30th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
@anonymous, Warren Henningsen seemed a pretty good guy he just had a ring in his nose like everyone who fell under Schirmers spell for a while. Mostly they are too smart for him tho and leave as quick as they came. its the residual effects of Schirmer that is so damaging.
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Yakaru Reply:
March 27th, 2012 at 5:02 am
@Kanto,
If Henningsen was a good guy he would have gotten out of that business and got a job. Instead he used his 15 minutes of fame (maybe it was more – Schirmner stayed in that toilet for a long time) to launch a career as an “honest” shyster instead of a crooked one like Schirmer.
His “international bestseller” is called “If I Can You Can”, otherwise known as “entry-drug logical fallacy #1″. He didn’t, and neither can you, but if you pay him, at least he can go on pretending he can, in a way that you would like to emulate but can’t because you gave away all your money to people like him who tell you you can do it just like him, even though he didn’t do it in the first place.
Er, that kinda thing….
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# 10 August 2010 at 12:38 am

shoebox said:
Schirmer claims he is a visionary bwah ha ha ha ha. Of what?
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# 10 August 2010 at 6:14 am

didilose said:
Reminds me of that song “I fought the law and the law won”
What a fool, especially in the area hes trying to work and especially claiming to be a christian (as loose as that term is).
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# 17 August 2010 at 4:50 pm

AnnetteJones said:
There are angry Christians and there are arrogant Christians, neither show any respect of the opinions of other people and try to educate other people on why they are right and others are wrong. That is not Godly. This guy is living his life with a chip on his shoulder and a bone to pick probably with his parents or someone who had an influence in his early life. I
People lose the plot over their beliefs because they like to think they are on the road to the holy righteous good and mighty, do anything and you can be forgiven path. Its very disappointing to know that there are people using this and also putting themselves in a position where they are influencing lots of peoples lives. No doubt they will have a LOOOOOOOOT to answer for.
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# 19 August 2010 at 1:12 am

Jojo said:
Cant beat Schirmy he wasnt included in Rhonda Byrnes new book so he claims he has ALL the answers anyway. No doubt Rhonda Byrnes could see straight through the guy as well and seriously who would want to be associated with someone with a record like his. Come on Schirmy, whats the next thing you are going to think up and fail miserably at?
CLAIM TO BE A PREACHER, START YOUR OWN CHURCH, TAKE EVERYONES ‘TITHES AND OFFERINGS’ AND PAY NO TAX?????????????????????????????????????????
Have I hit the nail on the head yet again?
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Anonymous Reply:
February 11th, 2011 at 12:38 am
@Jojo, LOL, I reckon thats the direction he’s aiming in because there is no hope of anything else now he has disgraced himself everywhere else.
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Sainthoodlum Reply:
October 23rd, 2011 at 12:20 am
@Jojo, Yes that will likely be the next step. He’ll see the light by some vision that no-one else has ever seen and he’ll spruik his exceptional wisdom ………… for a fee.
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# 24 August 2010 at 10:51 pm

anonymouse said:
This dickhead is now the master of LOVE yes you read it LERVE MUN. What happened to all the females he touched up. Suddenly none of them want the bastard so he’s left to be the master of lerve and lies. Dickhead!
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Sainthoodlum Reply:
October 23rd, 2011 at 12:21 am
@anonymouse, I bet he thinks nobody saw anything, wanker.
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# 27 August 2010 at 6:55 am

sosogood said:
Oh so Davey was into the secret act of doing things deceitfully? Well well well who would have guessed that (besides his wife, his kids, his motherinlaw, his parents if they are still alive, his siblings if he has any, his staff if he has any, his clients if he has any left, practically everyone who saw the guy at any point in his life really). Good to see the authorities are taking some action on this guy now, its about time. Anyone who claims to be an expert at stuff is immediately on my suspicious list because nobody knows everything about anything, to claim that they do is pure ego driven and this guy seems to be dribbling ego to me. One thing that did get me was how he was always croaking about being a person you could trust and behold thats exactly what he was exposed for. Tut tut Davey, not a smart move to put yourself on a pedestal, thats for others to do not you. I guess now its time for him to pay for his sins and I’m not sure he’s got enough lifetimes left to do it but thats up to him I suppose. We’ll see the man when he comes good but I’m not holding my breathe waiting. I hope all those people who he ripped off have moved on because this guy doesnt seem the type to make amends, giving is not a strong point even though he readily preaches it.
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# 17 September 2010 at 5:50 pm

anonymouse said:
The biggest faux pas that this guy committed was convincing himself that he could be trusted with other peoples money. From my investigations as soon as he started taking other peoples money for an apparent fake investment he started buying bmw cars and expensive houses to prop up his fake lifestyle. He got cozy with apparent marketing gurus and then claimed to be the worlds best marketer or some other shallow crap. Now all he has is a rented house and old bmw and it looks like business is really struggling. Looks like honesty hasn’t been his most profitable policy.
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# 22 September 2010 at 10:46 pm

mb said:
Oh Mr Schitmer, when will you ever learn that you will self destruct because of your own greed.
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# 23 September 2010 at 5:12 pm

Anonymous said:
David Schirmer is scandalous, he must be a classic psychopath with no feelings inside, no soul. Are psychopaths really human? How can you continue to hurt people like this without the slightest of remorse or shame?
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drayfus Reply:
October 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
@, Well if the guy did have any remorse the people he screwed up would know about it by now and I doubt very much that they know anything. The guy is a fucking loser and something that personal development industry breeds.
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# 23 September 2010 at 6:17 pm

sosogood said:
As they say some things are immoral but not illegal and I think thats what this guy has been working on up to now. The fact that he claims to be a so called Christian and claim to be so innocent is beside the point. If his conquest and vision is of being a bloody wealthy person then he’ll do anything to get that outcome even to the point of ripping people off, no matter what the consequences. To me it appears thats exactly what he’s done.
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# 30 September 2010 at 11:14 pm

caleb said:
I wonder if the tax office are after schirmer now? he has gone very quiet and if he has been shifty or creative with his money trail then they will root it all out even if he tried to hide money overseas which is always a possibility with someone like this. I never trusted this guy from the moment I first met up with him. Now that so much stuff has come out on tv and elsewhere I trust him even less. I think what he did to the people who trusted him is disgusting and showed what his intentions were from the outset. If nothing more happens other than him getting rooted out by the ASIC and ATO then he has been stalled from hurting other people for a number of years and thats a very good thing. What I couldnt understand is that they looked and acted like paupers but he drove a M5 BMW then they got a big house and boasted about that. No sooner did they go boasting like idiots then lost it all so that showed the public that their dirty tricks didnt work. Now they look absolute fools and how could anyone trust them now.
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# 1 October 2010 at 7:57 pm

david schirmer sucks said:
How does David Schirmer muster up the courage to keep his website going and to try to keep doing business on the Internet, when he is clearly a fraud??? He’s been exposed on TV, on the internet, in print, what gives? I guess he’s completely delusional and psychopathic. Anyone who falls for his tricks now has to be completely out of their mind desperate and delusional or completely oblivious to his history.
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gosh geez Reply:
October 3rd, 2010 at 8:44 am
Looks like other people are also blogging about David Schirmer’s scamming. http://schirmerexposed.blogspot.com/ Why is this ass still not behind bars with the key thrown away?
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drayfus Reply:
October 25th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
@gosh geez, What sort of a business does this guy run anyway? Looks like hes into anything he thinks he can suck money out of people with. I did see he is claiming to be all churchy but who is he kidding really. He should sort himself out first before he starts sorting everyone elses life out. Hes made a complete dick of himself so far.
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# 3 October 2010 at 8:29 am

Caleb2 said:
Whats Dave up to now? He has an event coming up in Sydney in November which he is still claiming to be the world best expert on even though ASIC have exposed him as being deliberately (ooh like that one) deceitful to his traders. No doubt he’ll get a group in that room and manipulate them to make them believe exactly what he wants them to believe and yep, they’ll believe it. The truth is that the guy has no more information than any other trader out there in fact most I doubt he’s even proved himself given that ASIC found him “deliberately” deceitful. All the information has come from other people and really how do you have time to trade when you are spending your life putting out fires everywhere. Ambidextrous in many ways it seems.
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# 12 October 2010 at 6:56 pm

SB said:
Freaks me out the amount of bloody lies this guy tells to get himself out of a tight corner. I would not trust him with anything that I own or anything anyone I care about owns.
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# 13 October 2010 at 12:51 am

anonymous said:
Schirmer the bellyaching bullshit guru and world expert of bugger all.
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ABenson Reply:
October 25th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
@anonymous, They say a fool and his money are soon parted so I guess Schirmer isnt the wealthy person he always claimed he was. The last thing he wanted was an expose like he got and so pathetically responded to. Just shows you that the business he is involved in is as shady as he is.
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# 14 October 2010 at 7:48 am

drayfus said:
This guy is on youtube with a video about a guy in australia who is giving food away for nothing. As usual Schirmer is the type that GETTING SOMETHING FOR FUCKING NOTHING appeals to. The guy is a loser.
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# 17 October 2010 at 9:24 pm

drayfus said:
You know that I noticed about this guy neither he or his commenters on his blogs can spell. Says a lot about a person claiming to be an expert when he can even fucking spell.
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# 18 October 2010 at 5:17 pm

BN said:
I believe that Schirmer considered any money given to him as his own regardless of what he promised would be his side of the bargain and it now seems very obvious that those promises were all pretty loose. Therefore my conclusion is that he did not have any intentions of fulfilling his side of the bargain and thats a person you just cannot do business with. He had one alright product that he started with (pretty much all of which can be found on the web FREE nowadays anyway) and he thought it was worth as much as his ego which was far more than anyone else out there charges. He got into financial difficulty pretty early on and started on a path of self destruction fed by greed. Once he started taking peoples money, the rest is history and nothing has changed since it appears. No idea what he’s up to now and don’t care in fact most people I know speak ill of him and he’s certainly not someone anyone seems to recommend.
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# 27 October 2010 at 10:55 pm

anonymous said:
David Schirmer appears a man of shameless intentions and extreme acts of hubris towards his fellow man. My opinion of him as an apparent contributor to the secret movie changed immediately as soon as I read this:
“When a well meaning, high profile psychologist on a radio interview said today that the Secert is dangerous and doesn’t work … and what professional qualifactions do I have to back up my claims! I calmly replied that I have a degree in results … and the “By your fruits you are known!” I had to smile as I looked out from my window of my office at home across the estate to the city, as he was stuck in traffic driving his basic car home from the job he goes to every day!!!!”
What an oh so complete idiot. What results? Court appearances, tv appearances, securities commission appearances, tax office appearances and hell knows what other appearances. No matter how good he thinks his information is it does not change who he is and who he thinks he is. Because that doesn’t change anything he has or says is worthless.
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# 29 October 2010 at 2:38 am

anonymous said:
The use of extreme positive emotional words is often associated with deception. Sound familiar?
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Soslow Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
@anonymous, Yes I’ve heard that several times before and dont they play on this one.
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a peters Reply:
January 30th, 2011 at 3:59 am
@Soslow, Schirmer is always telling people to be positive but what he’s really daying is to be a positive dickhead like him you have to create loads of debt and then run like hell away from it and hope like hell you dont get caught. I’ve watched this guy for years from his Toowoomba days and nothing has changed. He’s still the blood sucking fraud he always was. He has just refined his parasitic game and is now using a church and kids as a cover up. I’m very surprised at his wife going along with it but it just shows you what sort of person she is too. Takes one to know one.
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# 31 October 2010 at 1:17 am

sb said:
David Schirmer says on his facebook that he was in Brisbane in Australia checking out some guy who gives away food free. Everybody who knows Schirmer knows that the real reason he is doing something like that is because he wants to find out how to get free stuff from everyone for himself. The guy is evil because if he really was honest he would do the right thing by people in the first place. Most people who ever had anything to do with him know he only ever took and faked giving. Hes happy to give all right, everybody elses stuff. He will be exposed again for sure and made a complete idiot of. He doesnt seem to get the message that nobody gives a shit about him, he is a nobody even though he thinks he the most wonderful person in the world.
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# 2 November 2010 at 2:50 pm

anonymous said:
Well I guess the guy is unemployable and nobody wants to do business with him so the only way to get everything for nothing now is to set up a charity. More fodder for Salty. He seems to copy pretty much everyone so why stop now? Only problem is his public record might get in the road of any charity bid because everyone would know that he’d be taking more than he would be giving and seriously where would he find the time. Of course, have people doing it for him for nothing and he would take the accolades and the goods, doh!
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sweet Reply:
December 5th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Sweet, tell me where and when and hell will break loose.
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hollyroger Reply:
December 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
@sweet, Me too, I’ll try to get to Australia just because I hate this guy. What sort of pathetic weazil would try to set up a charity when they have been proven to be a first class frauduct. Hey Schirmer, if you are watching (and I know you would be because frauducts like you like to read the love stories about themselves) why dont you get a bit more charitable and start paying back to society instead. I bet you tell everyone that you and the mrs have given so much of your own selfs and times too, because thats how losers work. While everyone else actually works for their moulla you spend your time working out how to screw people over to take it from them and call it your own. Doesnt work though does it? And it looks like plenty out there will make sure it never will too so you can spend the rest of your life all and trying to prove your point getting nowhere out of your hole. You’ve probably even tried to rub shoulders with Santa Claus to steal little childrens christmas gifts too you are such a sleazy wind bag of a personally developing joke. I will keep checking in you loser and every time you think you are up I will watch as they knock you further and further down until you start paying back to society and not with your windy crap either, real honest moulla.
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a peters Reply:
January 30th, 2011 at 4:01 am
@anonymous, Schirmer up to his usual tricks. Sounds like someone needs a warning.
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# 2 November 2010 at 4:23 pm

hokuspokus said:
Now that tells you exactly where Schirmer is at. Its pretty well known that Schirmer does not do anything if he cant get something out of it for himself so watch out all you businesses out there. This guy will have a list of groceries he’ll need every week and stuff he can sell on ebay because he cant sell shit anywhere else. Sounds like hes very desperate to me.
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# 2 November 2010 at 11:32 pm

anonymouse said:
This guy is an example of death by karma. evil at every turn but not what he’d have you think. never met a person who could cover up like this guy.
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# 3 November 2010 at 12:35 am

chosean said:
Why are all these guys fat? I was just reading several other salty blogs and all these guys are fat bastards. Coincidence or one of the requirements to qualify for such special attention?
This guy Schimer is very quiet lately. You could bet that he’s in deep shit and he’s the one living on hope now. He just irks me the way he claims christianity and religion and all that when its as obvious as dogs balls that he did what he did to make himself rich. He even claimed somewhere that he was a marketing guru. What a wiener, claiming to be a christian world class analyst marketing guru. Enough to scare anyone off.
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# 11 November 2010 at 10:17 pm

sj said:
Whatever this guy is now experiencing HE attracted and HE knows that so if he fights, blames or criticises then he gets more of whatever heis getting now, its really that simple.
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# 12 November 2010 at 3:39 am

anon said:
who gives a shit about this guy anymore, he proved he was scum.
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# 12 November 2010 at 4:38 pm

J M Owens said:
From my observation this guy looks like hes almost made a sport out of taking from other people to better himself. He is the lowest of low because hes mixed charity with his greed.
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JC Reply:
December 6th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
@J M Owens, Imagine the millions this guy must have taken from people to feed his own damn ego and now he’s left with pretty much nothing. A shit of a company name, pathetic programs, everyone I ever knew in his companies have walked probably being owed a substantial amount, he screws over every business relationship for as much as he can get out of it for himself and wonders why people think he’s the worlds worst loser. So much for any understanding of the laws of attraction but then he got what he gave.
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# 13 November 2010 at 3:02 am

APentina said:
One guy on the net somewhere is calling this fraud a “practical millionaire”, practially stupid perhaps? Hes short overweight, frequently in trouble with the authorities, he buys stuff and then pretends he owns it just before you discover it gets taken off him and you find his claims are all lies. He also makes egotistical claims about his ability in his mail out crap and he plays the typical victim mentality lines when he’s challenged. I would like any one of his so called students to step up on this blog and tell me why I should not now think the guy is a fraud. I know peoples beliefs are their business but honestly this guy seems to crap on anything that does not think or breathe the same as him so its difficult to think of him as anything but a fraud.
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# 13 November 2010 at 8:00 am

APentina said:
As I expected NOBODY has come forward. His public results speak for themselves.
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# 15 November 2010 at 1:27 am

Jones said:
I have checked out this fellas facebook and he has a link to some girl who is an abortion survivor BUT incredibly he misses completely what she is saying.
She is unquestionably a survivor of something really terrible, yet another cruel act of mans greed. He (and his cronies who do the same thing in a greedy disgusting grab for money and earthly riches) on the other hand only ever twist this sort of stuff to suit themselves. They do not realise that there are people out there who they have damaged or victimised who have as much hate and determination as this women to ensure that what they did never happens again. Saltys blog is testament to the amount of people who are really hurting over the actions of a few greedy bastards.
Its actually extremely sad that people just don’t get the real message.
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Soslow Reply:
November 23rd, 2010 at 8:14 pm
@Jones, i went and checked the guy out too and now hes saying that your prayers are more powerful than any other force on this earth. I guess there is no sin in groping for acceptance by a bunch of tools or maybe he praying so hard his head is about to explode and nothing is happening. I’m permanently convinced that these dimwits salty writes about really believe they are god and play over and over whatever shit that takes their fancy next week.
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soso Reply:
December 11th, 2010 at 3:50 am
@Jones, Thats sick. He’s sick.
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# 15 November 2010 at 8:21 pm

Faggot said:
What? are you surprised at anything that this guy does? Hes a first class weazil and wets his pants often.
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# 22 November 2010 at 3:20 am

KB said:
What is really sad is that these people are defined by their overwhelming egos. They imagine they have a huge group of friends because people add them on the social network sites then they suddenly believe thousands of people actually like them. That is the saddest part of the social networks, it is so fake but these people are the masters of fake so they probably enjoy it. Fake money, fake wealth, fake religion, fake knowledge, fake relationships, fake businesses, fake, fake, fake. You would have to cuss living a fake dream in the end because reality always bites you in the bum at some point. No doubt they are still faking their way through their fake lives, sad.
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# 23 November 2010 at 9:19 pm

anonymous said:
I know the Schirmers and I have received an invitation from them to a basic course which Schirmer is running in December. I am disgusted in them and their business. I completely believe that they have used people and been very rude about people I have had a lot of respect for. I dont trust them and I dont believe that anything that they offer is any different to what people can get from much more honest companies. I also know that one guy who used to work for Schirmer years ago is now running wealth within in Melbourne Australia and I have much more respect for him than I ever would the Schirmers. It is very sad that Schirmer got so greedy that he destroyed his own business and its very obvious now that he also used other people to try to get rich. Schirmer is just another example of how greedy people got about getting rich in a big fat mad hurry. It all backfired in the end.
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# 1 December 2010 at 4:43 am

soso said:
Hey someone send the guy this message please “referring to a bunch of people you’ve never met as your ‘friends’ is weird and creepy and stinks of desperation.” Get a life and stop USING other people to make your way in life.
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# 10 December 2010 at 3:44 pm

anonymous said:
Schirmer is a first class frauduct and he will tell his current group of hopefuls that what he is telling them is truth and fact and everything they hear or read from everyone else are lies. The sad part is that those people, will in time, come to realise that Schirmer was the frauduct not anyone else. THATS how good he is at deceiving people and its probably his best ability – deception.
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# 16 December 2010 at 2:50 pm

Cabletie said:
David Schirmer is a money whore!
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# 18 December 2010 at 1:07 am

Anonymous said:
David Schirmer and his mrs are the most deceitfully greedy people I know. While they were taking from everyone else they were buying up for themselves and when the shit hit the fan they were not prepared to cough up what they had and pay their debts like everyone else. Their idea of christianity is shameless unless they have paid everyone back who funded their get rich quick schemes which I doubt very much. They aren’t that sort of people.
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%-( Reply:
December 20th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
@Anonymous, The evidence is out there that the guy has pretty much used people all his life and he tries to justify it by using NLP to manipulate people to do as he wants and believe the crap he’s trying to sell/tell them. I feel very sorry for anyone who has paid him for anything other than his basic course because I believe the rest can be found elsewhere much much cheaper in far superior quality with a thousand times more personal service. Even the authorities labelled him deceitful so he cannot escape that now, it is permanently on the record, how serious?
p-e-r-m-a-n-e-n-t-l-y!
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# 18 December 2010 at 9:20 pm

JB said:
“David Schirmer recommends is to create a monthly budget based on exactly how you want to live. Part of this process includes researching and establishing exactly what it would cost to live the life you want to live.” from selfgrowth.com website.
What an idiot, HE cant even do that let alone teach anyone else to do that. Schirmer has lost almost everything he ever dreamed of getting because he stole from other people to get it. He does not understand the laws of the universe no matter how much material he claims to own or how many tony robbins seminars he claims to have attended. Schirmer is a classic example of do as I say not as I do. His life will be shit forever because it is impossible for him to make peace with him greed.
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# 18 December 2010 at 10:42 pm

CK said:
Schirmer would have to win the prize of being Australias biggest wanker wouldnt he?
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# 22 December 2010 at 5:43 am

bj said:
Schirmer reminds me of a person who listens but does not here. I am reminded of part of an old american quote “Ignorance, conceit, anger, jealousy and greed stem from a lost soul.” I consider Schirmer a very lost soul and I be he will re use this quote because he is not wise enough to hear it for himself.
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sickened Reply:
April 2nd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
@bj, I think you mean he listens but he doesnt HEAR but I second your quote about the lost soul. I think this guy is madly searching for who he really is, lost cause I think. Get on with an honest life mate.
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# 29 December 2010 at 8:01 pm

schirmerscreditors said:
Schirmers creditors are offering him a very simple and proven credit plan to solve his debts to them:
“100% deposit and no monthly repayments required.”
For Schirmers benefit – Romans 13:8 KJV
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Anonymous Reply:
February 11th, 2011 at 12:43 am
@schirmerscreditors, Oh that is good, he should grab that opportunity.
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# 29 December 2010 at 9:27 pm

jazon said:
Something else Schirmer might also read while he’s reading that verse in the holy book
‘You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not covet,’
bwah ha ha, Schirmer commit adultery, murder, steal or covet, neeeeeever
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# 29 December 2010 at 10:21 pm

anonymous said:
David Schirmer is a cheap, thieving, fake, womanising, dickhead who writes obviously writes all his marketing shit and websites about himself to manipulate people into believing he is somebody that he would like to be known as. His lies gave away his entire game, a leopard does not change their spots they say and he now cannot escape his past. Too bad, so sad.
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# 31 December 2010 at 3:03 am

anonymous said:
David Schirmer is a cheap, thieving, fake, womanising, dickhead who obviously writes all his marketing shit and websites about himself to manipulate people into believing he is somebody worth listening to. His lies gave away his entire game, a leopard does not change their spots they say and he now cannot escape his past. Too bad, so sad.
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# 31 December 2010 at 3:03 am

BW said:
The reality is that anyone who studies how to manipulate people through marketing, neuro linguistic programming or any other means does it for one purpose only to control people. They are driven by power, paranoia and greed. These people usually have a childish need for attention that in their adulthood grows to a hunger for power. They are often referred to as gurus and use good intentions to draw people in. Often using a study of the bible to justify their beliefs. These people can be extremely dangerous and it always leads to a dreadful end for everyone involved. In fact this is exactly how cults start. Look at history, look at these peoples family life and siblings, look at their relationships.
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# 31 December 2010 at 7:35 pm

anonymous said:
As long as reason can be eclipsed by faith there will be those who use religion to exploit. Beware anyone touting the bible and money together, its likely to be a one way deal.
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# 31 December 2010 at 8:06 pm

PPender said:
Schirmer is practicing being God, check out his facebook comments.
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# 2 January 2011 at 9:16 pm

Suverficial said:
This was written about Livermore who Schirmer commented many times he read about and he even named a group of companies after the guy apparently.
“Livermore was an honorable man and believed in paying debts even after he had been relieved through the courts of bankruptcy.”
I just wonder how closely Schirmer follows these guys because if he has an ounce of decency he will pay all people back and make it his highest priority. I wonder, will be interesting to see.
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# 2 January 2011 at 9:35 pm

tutu said:
You’ve got to be kidding but then he is practising being a Faith Walking Christian isnt he so there is always HOPE. What irks me is the principal of the whole thing. He took money from people because he wanted to get rich himself. He could not have done that without those people so the case is closed in my view. Give it back, make peace and move on.
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# 6 January 2011 at 4:09 pm

fatso said:
As Margaret Thatcher said “socialism works until you run out of money”, this guy is on a losing game and he knows it thats why he’s started praying.
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# 6 January 2011 at 8:50 pm

anonymous said:
OMG look at the Karma Schirmer is getting. He cant say he didnt deserve it when he tries to teach shit he doesnt live by.
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# 7 January 2011 at 12:08 am

peaches said:
Isnt this guy attempting to do a job of covering up his shit. What sort of fucked up idiot spends their life blaming everyone else when there is only one common denominator in the whole fucking scenarios? Doh, only one wanker appears every time, its Schirmer. He’ll need to do more than start praying he’ll need to start paying otherwise his back load of shit is going to live with him forever.
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# 7 January 2011 at 7:49 pm

didems said:
The Schitmers are holding a youth camp for kids and on their website is this:
“You can sponsor a teenager who may not be able to come because of financial challenges”
UP YOURS SCHIRMER!
How about YOU sponsor a few down and outs for a change with your own bloody money you loser instead of hanging around everyone expecting THEM to pay for YOU like you NORMALLY DO. Oh yes everyone has been onto you fat arse loser since way back when. And you are even telling some guy on facebook that you could USE his services, you betcha, for free. Wanker.
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# 8 January 2011 at 1:13 am

anonymous said:
The hypocrite’s crime is that he bears false witness against himself. What makes it so plausible to assume that hypocrisy is the vice of vices is that integrity can indeed exist under the cover of all other vices except this one. Only crime and the criminal, it is true, confront us with the perplexity of radical evil; but only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core. ~Hannah Arendt, On Revolution, 1963
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# 10 January 2011 at 7:53 am

jojo said:
This guy has the same smug arse look as loughner maybe they are related. Both sad cases but one is still free.
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# 11 January 2011 at 3:14 am

oilymerchant said:
I think its sick when people use other peoples misfortune or fortune as a means of supporting their money making intentions. David Schirmer is classic at this. Every time there is some sort of disaster or newsworthy event he pulls it out and flaunts it to support his own intentions. It is his well oiled way of manipulating people to make them think he is a caring person. He has mastered deception and yet he is also the first person to squeal if people do something against him. Regardless of what he would have you think he completely lacks compassion and has mastered deceit. Go figure where this fits in the secret or Christianity if thats what he thinks he’s practicing.
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Caleb Reply:
January 13th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
@oilymerchant, its called OPPORTUNISM and Schirmer seriously suffers it but he’s not the only one, all of Saltys targets are the same. They are incapable of separating their greed from their arses.
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# 11 January 2011 at 5:36 pm

jojo said:
Dont expect shitface Schirmer to change tho, thats not what he does.
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# 12 January 2011 at 3:14 am

anonymouse said:
Schirmer is a DICK-HEAD!
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# 15 January 2011 at 12:37 am

Drayton said:
David Schirmer is spruiking how to create wealth on facebook. The most ironic thing is he is actually very poor. He cant pay the debts he owes, is renting a house, eating at mcdonalds and no doubt still paying off a car all of which he has to maintain because because he wants people to think he has money so he can sell his crap. Its so funny watching people attempt to maintain a look when everyone knows its a plain faced lie. Keep it all up Schirmy its nice watching you in pain.
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# 16 January 2011 at 4:56 am

Anonymouse said:
A birdie told me that schirmers are currently running a kids camp where most of the people attending have been wooed with free participation to make the numbers appear like anybody out there actually loves these people. Things are bad when you have to revert to wooing the kids and using freak events of nature to milk peoples emotions.
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# 20 January 2011 at 8:35 pm

Schirmerhater said:
I knew this guy was a fake the minute I met him because I asked him questions about his trading and he couldn’t answer correctly. I walked away but I see he was able to convince some people that he was the real deal. When I knew he was not paying his bills and created an “investment opportunity” I knew that something was seriously amiss. Next thing you hear his company is in liquidation and he has created another company and used up all his investors money for himself. Leopards dont ever change their spots they say. This guy has no hope is heaven of making it because he spends his life screwing people over. Just check his history and if you cant find it ask questions but not from the people that he suggests because he has a few who he manipulates to talk sweet of him.
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# 21 January 2011 at 3:58 am

puffdiddy said:
Schirmer has never had any intentions of ever paying anyone off. He has set himself and his companies up as trusts and hidden trusts and that is what everyone deals with. when he is confronted he claims the company owes people not him. He is a shameless idiot who is left wondering why the hell nobody likes him. Look at his business history. He has one company after another close down and people coming out the woodwork everywhere claiming he owes them money. Not so Schirmy says and thats because of the aforementioned business trust set up. By law he doesnt owe them but by moral obligation and certainly by christian obligation he does and he knows it. So whats he doing about his……bugger all. The guy could be a millionaire if he came good and paid everyone off but he cant afford to now because he owes far too many people. He is destined to a life of telling everyone who is trying to follow him why so many people hate him and its all THEIR fault, not his. How hilarious and he’s the one on struggle street or poverty parade or losers lane or whatever other cute name you want to give it.
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Anon Reply:
October 21st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
@puffdiddy, Yes it seems its everybody elses fault but David Schirmers. The grander his excuses and blame the more guilty he is because nobody with any shred of respect in business publicly blames other people for their own results. I guess you might as well go out with a bang allbeit incredibly disrespectful. Been fun reading all these messages though, I find myself agreeing with so many and I’m only up to January.
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# 21 January 2011 at 4:36 am

Feelsgoodnotknowingyou said:
With all the tragedies that have happened in Australia in the last few years they have inevitably become a magnet for human interest and Schirmer has been an outstanding exploiter of it all while feigning some pathetic sadness for the poor victims. This is a guy who has no shame whatsoever.
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# 24 January 2011 at 5:53 am

Seedylacer said:
Yep I checked Schirmer has NOT been nominated for Australian of the year yet again. I’m sure theres a category for the gurus of rape and pillage. Schirmer is trying his hand at laying hands on a bunch of young girls oh and a few boys but mostly his own sons spread very deliberately in a photo to make it look all large and exciting. His gathering seems to have grown by at least one person since last year and I cant be sure but it might even be one of his own offspring he’s such a busy man. In any case 2011 promises to be a veritable feast for his little Schirmerlings because he claims he’s sent them on their way with so much knowledge they wont have any room to think about anything else and just for him they’ll all become multimillionaires by the end of the year. What a thoughtful soul he is and I bet their ideas and brains are all signed over to him and before they know it they will own nothing and he’ll rape and pillage yet again. Cycles, they are amazing things.
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pensioner Reply:
January 25th, 2011 at 7:23 am
@Seedylacer, Schirmer has resorted to kids because the adults have made it clear they dont want anything to do with him starting with Bob Proctor. Schirmer screwed one too many people and boasted about how he was doing it, the kids dont pick up on that and the parents of those kids probably aren’t savy enough to pick up on it either. Schirmer is creating for himself little Schirmerdom which he convinces himself that he is in control of. It wont be long before one of those little schirmerites gets a little smarter than him and the his whole dreams implode. You only have to look at the lame crap hes offering people now to realise its a sad case of holding on too long and making a complete dick of yourself. Schirmer has made a name for himself of someone who is untrustworthy and deceitful. What better legacy could the devil wish for.
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coco Reply:
February 3rd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
@Seedylacer, Well Schirmer does publicly claim to be a world expert on cycles. That statement seems all the more hilarious when you discover his history. He does the same thing over and over and over and over, see what I mean, he’s not lying, he really is a world expert on cycles.
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# 25 January 2011 at 4:38 am

Bluemanfriend said:
“So in the universe personally manifested by Devil Dave he’s:
failed in every way
lied about it
defrauded people to whom he owed a fiduciary duty
got himself publicly exposed
been sanctioned and banned by The Man”
A CHAIN IS ONLY AS STRONG AS ITS WEAKEST LINK.
MY INVESTIGATIONS SHOW THAT SCHIRMER IS THE WEAKEST LINK IN EVERY BUSINESS DEALING HE HAS EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN STARTING FROM WHEN HE FIRST LEFT HOME. ALL OF THEM HAVE FAILED MISERABLY AND ALL OF THEM HAVE ONE COMMON DENOMINATOR – DAVID SCHIRMER. NOW HE’S STARTING ON KIDS CAMPS. THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE ALL FAILED IS BECAUSE SCHIRMER FAILED THE MOST BASIC FUNDAMENTAL OF BUSINESS ….. KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS OUT OF THE COOKIE JAR YOU TWAT, PAY YOUR DEBTS FIRST (NOT YOURSELF AS YOU TWIST IT YOU FUCKWIT!) AND LIVE ON WHATS LEFT!” SCHIRMERS SECRET, TAKE MONEY OFF WHOEVER WILL GIVE IT TO YOU, MAKE FAKE PROMISES IF YOU HAVE TO, PAY FOR YOURSELF AND EVERYTHING YOU WANT FIRST AND CASH WOULD BE GOOD THEN PUT THE MONEY IN THE MONEY TIN IF YOU REALLY HAVE TO FOR ALL THE BILLS THAT YOU’VE CREATED TO BE PAID, SEE HOW LONG THAT WORKS FOR YA! OH AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE IN THE NAME OF A COMPANY TRUSTS SO YOU CAN CLAIM ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BILLS YOU CREATE. SCHIRMER IS USED TO PEOPLE HATING HIM SO HE’S LOST ALL FEELING FOR THAT SORT OF NONSENSE AND HE’S LOST EVERY SHRED OF CREDIBILITY WITH IT. LAST TIME I SAW HIM I’M SURE IT WAS A BURGER ON HIS BUM IT WAS SO BIG. NAH REALLY JUS JOKING HE’S A NICE GUY JUS ASK HIM PFFT PFFT.
END RANT!
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Caleb Reply:
April 11th, 2011 at 2:45 am
@Bluemanfriend, Agree with you my friend. Maybe the cookie jar is more full of cookies these days than cash. The guy looks like he’s getting bigger, fatter, older and weirder. when you have to revert to religion to win people you’ve even lost yourself.
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# 25 January 2011 at 10:49 pm

Coco said:
Schirmer of all people should know that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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# 26 January 2011 at 4:55 am

Schirmersachilles said:
Referring to the image on this page of Schirmer:
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# 27 January 2011 at 2:40 am

Schirmersachilles said:
I’m a little wanker short and stout …
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# 27 January 2011 at 3:15 am

Fido said:
Either Schirmer is very short and very fat or they just dont make shorts short enough for his width. I looked at this guys youth page and what a perfect example of what not to look like when you are trying to sell personal development stuff. I get the feeling that this fella is everything not to be when you are trying to sell personal development stuff. I wonder why Proctor sued him. Could it be that he just doesn’t cut it in any way?
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# 27 January 2011 at 4:43 pm

pickles said:
Schirmer rules in Schirmer world but his world it gettin smaller. I looked at that ydc photo too, whoa what a whale. For someone who is an apparent expert at feeling good, if thats what you get them I’ll pass thanks. I like mine slim and beautiful, I find that much more fetching.
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# 28 January 2011 at 1:51 am

toto said:
Someone grab a copy of the photo of Schirmer jumping in the air, if ever he looked a fucktard, its there.
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# 28 January 2011 at 2:40 am

Moxie said:
O-M-G !!! I *hate* this guy….like I can’t even look at this dick with ears….he disgusts me to the core! He drools, he can’t talk correctly, and his slime-bag tactics coming thru his blow-hole make me so sick….I’ve been waiting for news that he’s gotten stung by one of those toxic stingrays which hang out in Aussie, but I guess that day is not coming soon. He, Proctor, James Ray and all these “the Secret” jam-ass dirtbags need to just fall off the face of the earth and quit exploiting people with their bullshit. And this one, in particular, is the ultimate jackbag of the group. Uggghhhhh! *HATE* him !!!
Wheeeeeeew, thanks for letting me vent :) Luv you, Salty ;)
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# 29 January 2011 at 6:54 pm

anony4 said:
I suspect that Schirmers string of Annus Horribilis years are not about to stop anytime soon in fact they cant until he makes good. His claim of understanding how to set things up and to avoid responsibility was well expounded in his many seminars. What he failed to understand was that everyone with a pair of functioning ears knew exactly what he was getting up to with that and with every other aspect of his life too which make him all the more of a fraud. This is a man who is completely shameless and for the people who were ripped off by him while he was chasing his own personal agenda I feel very sorry for them and I believe they were very good people who came under the spell of one of the most crooked people around. I dont think I have ever met anyone as shady as Schirmer. He seems to have mastered making everything look really normal on the outside when its now completely obvious that he has a lot of crap happening behind the scenes. You only had to take a look at his wife on many occasions who clearly didnt have the same level of deceitful skills that he did, to know something was really amiss. I dont wish harm to the guy but I do wish he would start thinking with his head for a change and realise the enormous amount of damage he has done doing what he has done while attempting to teach people about the Law of Attraction. This is one guy who should never have been included in the secret movie but I guess Rhonda Byrnes would know that by now. Maybe it was meant to be to expose all these people as frauds.
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# 30 January 2011 at 3:34 pm

icantoo said:
Napoleon Hills Lesson Number One
“No man has a chance to enjoy permanent success until he begins to look in a mirror for the real cause of all his mistakes.”
I think Schirmer skipped lesson 1 deliberately.
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# 31 January 2011 at 4:11 am

borgenschnit said:
i dont know this guy but god forbid i heard his pathetic contribution in the secret movie and done some research that gave me a permanent opinion. i conclude this guy is one of the current aussie frauds. could be his roots, just sayin.. they dont look real thoroughbred if you know what i mean. Nap Hill also said this
“no position in life can be secure, and no achievement can be permanent unless built upon truth and justice”
fiddling with kids, now thats scary.
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# 31 January 2011 at 3:42 pm

borgenschnit said:
aha twit schirmer and you get this ’7 Steps To Creating Abundance By Using Your Imagination’ pretty much the summary of his life. walk around with your blinkers on dreaming of the gorgeous bombshell, the willy wonker mansion, the aeroplane wings of wankerdom, the car of crazy love. meanwhile the rest of the world are madly getting rich he is dreaming and madly scheming up his thieving techniques to support his dream because he cant do it any other way. this guy must not have any mirrors at home because if he looked at the man in the mirror he’d be shocked with reality
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# 31 January 2011 at 3:51 pm

Ihathaway said:
Well I want to add to this. In Napoleon Hills Law of Success he CLEARLY says this:
“The most outstanding of these weaknesses which stand between men and women and success are INTOLERANCE, CUPIDITY, JEALOUSY, SUSPICION, REVENGE, EGOTISM, CONCEIT, THE TENDENCY TO REAP WHERE THEY HAVE NOT SOWN and the HABIT OF SPENDING MORE THAN THEY EARN.
ALL of which Schirmer suffers yet he is attempting to teach these things to people and now it looks like, young people. How can you be taken seriously when you cant get even one right? Schirmer needs to go into hiding and come up with a plan to rectify all his “ishoos”.
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P B Reply:
February 11th, 2011 at 12:46 am
@Ihathaway, OMG, that is so true. Great comment.
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# 31 January 2011 at 5:22 pm

noddy said:
Schirmer belongs to the Douchebag and Huckster club. Schirmer is a penniless bum who takes the personal development stuff to the extreme. While he’s driving a car that once was nice, he’s living in rented accommodation and has companies going under as often as you have a meal. If he really was rich everyone would know about it just like his attempt when he spruiked about owning some house on an estate which was all bullshit because had to give it back – karma, law of attraction. If you havent caught on yet he is paranoid about telling himself that one day he will be rich. He nags himself so much that to fulfill that dream he has to take from other people to make it look like he’s making it. Whats the point in going to your grave hoping that one day you’ll get rich and having so many people hate you? Everything he does he seems to set it up so he takes all the credit, all the product and all the profits and he wonders why he’s just not making it.
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# 31 January 2011 at 6:56 pm

ba said:
I bet there are a lot of people still waiting for a sorry and some recompense from this guy.
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# 1 February 2011 at 2:11 am

cindy said:
“It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.” Epictetus
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# 1 February 2011 at 6:36 am

coco said:
I do notice that his latest attempt at business is to become a news reporter. He informs everyone every time their is some sad and negative news in Australia. This man has real issues. His talk and his actions are the polar opposite of the information he is trying to teach. If he were practicing the Laws of the Universe like Proctor taught him then he would be focusing on all the good things about people and things that happen but so far all I have ever seen him do is talk about disasters, people picking on him and why they are so wrong and hes so right. He puts on documents that hes the worlds best at whatever and yet he isnt. Its like as if he is trying to convince himself that hes somebody. Do I see a similarity to James Ray? Despite their facades, they actually have such a sad life.
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# 3 February 2011 at 3:48 pm

Cheeky said:
Unchecked power is vulnerable to what the Greeks call HUBRIS. Hubris is when a person is cocooned in their own power. The Greeks had a good remedy for hubris, the deities would take care of the mortal suffering hubris and those deities were women. We don’t have deities we have democracy which takes care of mans foolishness and unchecked power. We are not gods and goddesses and since we are not we have to worry about those who act as if they are gods and goddesses. Unless there is a measure of public scrutiny there will always be the nasty affects of hubris. The people mentioned on this blog belong to a franchise of ignoramuses. They are ignorant to their own hubris.
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# 4 February 2011 at 8:50 pm

Sean B said:
David Schirmer is giving people lectures on facebook on words. he says this “We live in a world where people think that they can say what they like regardless of who it affects.” I wonder if he ever thinks about what he writes because his words are the most ignorant nonsense I’ve ever heard. I believe peoples issue with Schirmer is not just his words because everyone knows he’s very practiced and calculating about what he says now (he’s had plenty of practice at being deceitful) but he doesn’t give a shit about what he does. Thats the problem. HE comes first in everything he does and he has shown everyone that he doesnt give a shit how he gets it.
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# 5 February 2011 at 4:50 am

anonymous said:
Schirmer is one person that I will NEVER trust because he has proven beyond doubt that he is incapable of being a person of any integrity. I saw first hand what he is capable of and I am absolutely disgusted at just how deceitful and manipulative he has continually chosen to be. There is no lower place he can go than to publicly attempt to convince people that he is a man of God. It does not surprise me in the least that he has been taken to court on many occasions for being dishonest or that the Australian Securities Commission have labelled him as a person incapable of operating with integrity or honesty. Case closed.
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# 5 February 2011 at 5:19 am

JF said:
Anonymous, there are a lot of people who feel just like you. David Schirmer was a person who people felt they could trust, he has a way of endearing people to him while ripping them off behind their backs. That is why people took him to court and some others exposed him. Schirmer deliberately sets himself up to take no responsibility for all the losses he creates after he has siphoned the money out of his businesses. It looks like the authorities have got tabs on him now as he’s had several companies close down recently. I had hoped that he would come good but it seems he may never. I thought that he would do the honest thing and give people back the money that they gave him believing him but it appears he has no intentions of doing that which I find pretty hard to deal with.
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# 6 February 2011 at 2:07 am

peter - schirmer knows who I am said:
“The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it” – George Bernard Shaw
Schirmer knows that those who discovered his evil ways became so cynical that all he could do in the end was denigrate them. They went on to discover real freedom and success.
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# 6 February 2011 at 2:32 am

anonymous said:
Schirmer is a “dogooder gone bad”. I think he started with good intention but got greedy and it got him a lot of enemies. I do hope tho if he’s a christian he’ll come good.
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BRA Reply:
February 10th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
@anonymous, “I do hope tho if he’s a christian he’ll come good”
Setting your grammar aside, my question is: What the hell does being Christian have to do with it??? Seriously. His religion should have nothing to do with his “making things right”. He should do it as a human being no matter what his beliefs are. Though I bet dollars to Tim Hortons donuts that he won’t make things right.
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# 6 February 2011 at 3:27 am

P B said:
Schirmer spent so long taking from people to pad his own nest that he is confused when people shove reality up his ass.
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anonymous Reply:
February 7th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
@P B, Schirmer does not want his secret guilty deeds getting out there and to ensure they dont he threatens people. Surprisingly it doesnt work because most people dont give a shit about Schirmer.
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# 6 February 2011 at 3:57 pm

truedoh said:
http://askdavidschirmer.zendesk.com/entries/30821-contact-information
as with everything that schirmer does, i’m guessing this fell into a heap also.
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Chipolata Reply:
February 10th, 2011 at 4:53 am
@truedoh, I checked up on this place and they know nothing about Schirmer so yes ANOTHER LIE.
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# 6 February 2011 at 10:37 pm

culinarycurse said:
Ah yes the curtain has been pulled back on Mr Schirmer and his lies. A think curtain it was too.
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# 7 February 2011 at 5:01 pm

Chipolata said:
Schirmers name should be moved further up the DUBIOUS VILLAINS list. Deceitful bastard.
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# 10 February 2011 at 4:55 am

Anonymous said:
I know Schirmer and I’ve watched him disintegrate into a shadow of his former wishful self. He brought it all on himself because he knew what he was doing and he knew what the consequences could be so he’s just getting what he knew would be.
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choco Reply:
March 24th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
@Anonymous, Yes and now he is even deluding his own kids. What a sad sack of a family that is. Schirmer screwing around then getting up and publicly saying his wife is the most amazing person. Yeh, she sure is amazingly stupid for putting up with that dead beat of an excuse of a man. I also watched Schirmer disintigrate into a pathetic whiny user that he has become. I wonder if he ever stops to think about the amount of people everyone who knows him has seem come and go in their lives. I saw so many employees come and go in his businesses and find them later and they cant stand the using bastard. The fact that he is now claiming to be holier than thou proves what a fraud he is. You cant cover up for the types of things he has done but he seems to think he can claim to be an expert and it will all be ok and all his failures will just go away if he continues to fool his wife. He failed to realise that other peoples memories dont just go away in fact they never forget and thank God they don’t.
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# 10 February 2011 at 4:39 pm

K N V said:
Havent there been more staff walk away from the schirmers recently. Just more statistics to add to the carnage from the schirmer master stoke of genius dickheadness.
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choco Reply:
March 24th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
@K N V, Yes it appears they have and I’ve heard that Schirmer has been reduced to working out of his garage again. If all else fails turn on the God thing and people might believe that. The guys is completely deluded and slowly sinking further and further into the mire.
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# 11 February 2011 at 8:41 pm

friendly said:
I have known the schirmers for a long lot of years and I have to say that me and many other people feel very embarassed about what people we once associated with have done to others in the name of getting rich and being frankly greedy. I dont see any value in taking from others and not doing things honestly because you have to pay for it in the end in one way or another. It now appears that their motives were not quite like they wanted us to think. I feel sad for them and I feel especially sad for the lovely people who they used. I do hope that the Schirmers will honestly repay people even just what they owe as quickly as possible. I’d like to think there is some goodness in them. I do understand why so many people are so angry with them, I think they have every right to be and I dont think the Schirmers have any right to question that anger. Perhaps one day they will say to themselves that it really was not worth it.
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Dildo Reply:
February 13th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
@friendly, well you might think you have known the schirmers but I dont think anyone really knows what these people must be capable of. You only have to look at their facebook to see the facade they live by. I also heard they had more staff walk away so the cycle has not stopped and so their credibility goes down even further. They appear on a very fast train to nowhere.
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Simpleton Reply:
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
@Dildo, I agree with Dildo. The master of Schirmer is his ability to CON people and it looks like he’s been very successful so far. I congratulate the people who took the lid off his pot o gold and exposed it because it is all dirty money and his play on christianity is nothing but shameful. If he truly was a christian he would give up what he is doing and have an honest job and pay his just deserts. He has no intentions of doing that given his last attempt at promoting personal investment opportunities which are deceitfully designed to line his pockets. I’d love to see a full PIO document from this guy and have it online, exposed and picked to pieces by an expert. I bet he would run for cover if he know just how much other people know about his secret shenanigans.
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# 13 February 2011 at 6:20 pm

KC said:
I personally saw Schirmer having it off with another woman at one of his seminars not that long ago while his wife was there and then he got up and spoke about his wonderful wife. The guy is the biggest bloody fraud that ever lived and is not to be trusted. This is a guy who fakes his way through christianity and tries to teach people how to live their life when he is nothing but a fucking fraud. I dont think anyone should have to put up with the shit that this guys divvies out least of all anyone who once trusted him in any way.
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sheckle Reply:
February 16th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
@KC, yes this is one very carefully stage managed charade. Pretty pathetic really.
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caleb Reply:
July 19th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
@sheckle, eeeeew, so he has desert before he goes home for dinner. but his disclaimer apparently is that he is running a website for a church. makes all the difference when you get some brownie points from the church. NOT. makes it all the more sadistic. sick wanker.
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# 15 February 2011 at 4:31 am

pissed said:
Remind me why is the asshole still talking?
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# 16 February 2011 at 12:26 am

ditto said:
I have never met a person who is more of a lying mother fucker than Schirmer. He is a super sad case but he will have you in his sights and he’ll use all the nlp he can muster and make you believe his make believe world if its the last thing he does on this earth. He is so full of shit you can smell him for miles.
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# 18 February 2011 at 6:09 am

John the Chiro said:
What is so dangerous about this guy is that he takes “pretending” to a whole new level. He claims its perfectly ok to mislead and deceive the public by pretending he is wealthy because he’s doing it. He calls it visualising and believing you already own what you want. That is complete deception and grossly irresponsible behavior. He pretends he is able to do stuff when he clearly cant and he teaches people how to pretend so they live a completely delusional and dangerous life. Now he’s trying to marry that with the bible and I see, god help them, hes now teaching kids. I think most people with an ounce of common sense know that his delusional tactics are only designed to pay his bills and allow him to get what he wants. He does not give a shit about anything or anyone but himself all you have to do is look at his history of businesses, relationships and even his trading. He pretends he already owns stuff which he doesn’t have a hope in hell of ever getting. The guy is psycho and needs diagnosing for schizophrenia. He is a classic reason why this industry should be seriously regulated.
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Anonymous Reply:
February 26th, 2011 at 6:06 am
@John the Chiro, AMEN to that!
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# 18 February 2011 at 2:58 pm

onlooker said:
David Schirmer should be fully aware that “the wages of sin is death”
Meaning
Sinners will be cast into everlasting torment.
Origin
From the Bible, Romans 6:23 (King James Version):
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Cherrypicker Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
@onlooker, Should hit between the eyeballs.
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# 18 February 2011 at 3:26 pm

haha said:
Old Schirmy huh, still up to his usual tricks and giving his listeners the same lying shit he always did. I didnt do anything, those people a just jealous of my success, my detractors are just negative nellies, blah blah blah.
Schirmy, Schirmy, Schirmy, was a pathetic whiner you are as well as being a little rotund weevil.
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anonymous2 Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
@haha, Schirmer will go to anything where he can get free food, free goods, free contacts, free access and probably even free sex. He’s a sad desperate man who feeds his ego on telling people just how good he is and how shit they are. But the “how shit they are” bit is a way of him manipulating them into buying his products which incidentally really are shit.
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Cherrypicker Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
@anonymous2, Schirmer cant even smell his own shit thats why his life never improves.
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# 23 February 2011 at 8:04 am

Anonymous said:
People under the influence of someone with a hidden agenda (aka Devil Dave) end up too biased to see reality and they cast everything in the light that supports that bias. If a person remains in a biased world and completely blinded to the truth, it is impossible for them to avoid consequences. Devil Dave has preyed on people and for anyone who does not understand this look at his results and even the results of cult followings, they frequently have deadly consequences. All driven by one person who has a hidden personal agenda of get me everything I want now.
Dont be fooled by his current godly undertaking, I see it as very much part of a very devious hidden agenda. It does irk me to see people like this think they are getting away with so much.
What I take comfort in is that the days have ended for these people who enjoy power and living off other people’s money. Devil Daves only salvation now is actually not up to him, his history is already written.
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# 28 February 2011 at 10:10 pm

Heysue said:
Thankyou very useful information.
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# 2 March 2011 at 3:16 am

Cherryblossom said:
Quote by Schirmer “The mouth of a righteous person gives life. Prov 10:11″
Has he suddenly qualified himself as a preacher now?
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# 3 March 2011 at 4:16 pm

PK said:
Schirmer obviously believes thats where the money is right now. Just watch, that obsession will end soon enough when he’s exposed for slowly pilfering the collection plate or caught copulating with the beautiful bagels.
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Chewygum Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 3:39 am
@PK, could that be any funnier?
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# 4 March 2011 at 10:12 pm

Chewygum said:
Only people who are guilty as hell threaten people and want anything said about them to disappear. I noticed that Schirmer couldnt help but threaten everyone who challenged him in any way and he tried to have all the truth about him removed from public viewing. Um DOH, guilty as hell? Stupid move for someone who claims hes an expert with other peoples minds but it seems he failed expert school on his own mind.
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anonymous Reply:
August 17th, 2011 at 12:29 am
@Chewygum, The Schirmers are retards, just look at them.
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# 6 March 2011 at 4:12 pm

soso said:
I think David Schirmer is completely clueless about everything he tries to teach including his so called expert trading abilities which have been exposed as a fraud too. He’s gone full circle on the wealthalator and hes back working in his garage. Now thats someone I’d want to follow to learn how to become really wealthy!!! What a loser, really, is the guy serious?
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# 7 March 2011 at 4:30 am

soso said:
“My name is David Schirmer. I think I know more about making money on the ‘Stock Market’ than anybody else in Australia.”
Bwah ha ha ha, roflmao!!!!!! David Schirmer is sooooo clever he’s back working out of his garage. In other words the only way he achieved was by taking other peoples money and using it for himself.
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Aussiedaddyo Reply:
March 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
@soso, In 2008 you could have bought schirmers abundant life seminar for a ……
“an investment of $3,897″ WTF? Now anything he’s got he cant even give it away because nobody likes giving money to a thief.
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anonymous Reply:
March 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
@Aussiedaddyo, David Schirmer is the most recalcitrant person I have ever met. He talks about authority with a most arrogant attitude as if they are just pricks. Granted some probably are BUT the funny thing is he has no qualifications in anything as far as I know. It also looks like he has no money either despite his claiming (faking) being so wealthy all these years. You only have to look at his facebook views on authority to see what I mean – “sack the lot” ok Schirmer, then what? I bet they even fake being happy for looks. What a charming lifestyle.
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anonymous Reply:
August 17th, 2011 at 12:31 am
@anonymous, You do know he’s a retard dont you?
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# 8 March 2011 at 12:54 am

Aussiedaddyo said:
Well for fucks sake, did Davo really say that? Is that why he’s back living in his garage again? So he has successfully made a first class dick of himself and his family now. Shame shame shameless
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# 8 March 2011 at 4:28 pm

anonymous said:
Schirmer really is a DIMWIT.
DIMWIT:
1: a person who is considerably cortically subilluminated, less smart than the average person.
2: someone with crazy ideas that could be considered dangerous
3: someone who doesn’t know what he is doing
4: someone who does things just to gain acceptance from others, not because he is a real personality
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# 10 March 2011 at 8:50 pm

anonymous said:
Believe it or not Schirmer is still attempting to run trading courses. I don’t know anyone who has any respect left for him nor do I know anyone who would recommend him or anything that he does or sells. This is a man who is shameless and is actually the devil incarnate because his actions are deplorable. I think he will die a very unhappy, lonely and penniless bum.
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# 21 March 2011 at 6:09 am

awsumness said:
PARASITE
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# 24 March 2011 at 4:23 pm

Caleb said:
Yep Parasite
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# 26 March 2011 at 2:55 am

serio said:
Hey something I’ve just noticed is that the Storm Financial guy in Australia was only banned from holding a financial services license for 4 years, GET THIS, Schirmer was banned for LIFE!!!!!!! That should tell everyone what the parasite was up to and why so many people are encouring people to get the hell away from him and his sleazy company advices.
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caleb Reply:
July 19th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
@serio, Yes awesome isnt it. I bet the asic have had enuf of that asshole.
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# 29 March 2011 at 2:42 am

Robert said:
The consequences of this guys actions is just an immense intrusion into the peoples lives that he has affected. The guy has a screw loose to even think he could blame anyone else for his greed and utter manipulation for his own benefit. He remains an ignorant dogooder on a fast road to nowhere.
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sickened Reply:
April 1st, 2011 at 9:50 pm
@Robert, He’s a narcissistic fool
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joblo Reply:
April 4th, 2011 at 5:49 am
@sickened, Schimer has at least a dozen companies currently facing stike off action by the australian asic who recently took action against him and banned him for life from offering any financial advice. Aussie Dave should practice making boomerangs of a different sort because all the shit he’s put out in the past is coming home to roost on him now. What a wanker boasting about being a guru when he was absolutely full of shit, still is.
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Caleb Reply:
April 9th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
@joblo, Checked this out and its true, Schirmer must have come upon tough times but I’d never trust him. I reckon he would still have money stashed somewhere that doesnt belong to him, he is a very dishonest man.
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soso Reply:
April 24th, 2011 at 5:22 am
@Caleb, David and Lorna Schitmer are pompous arseholes who egotistically think they are just one better than the rest of the human race. I recall reading where Schitmer made fun of someone driving to work in their ordinary car to their ordinary job while he was sitting in his luxury house gloating about his temporary good fortune. It wasnt long after that his own lawyer decided he needed to be paid also and removed schitmer as a client. Says a lot when your own lawyer wipes you. Now David Schitmer appears to have no mansion, no fancy cars or anything much at all of his own all he’s getting is payback for all the ignorant rude arrogant egotistical pompous comments he has made while he’s been funding his luxuries with fake money. The guy in his ordinary car is the one laughing now. At least he hasnt made a dick of himself to people like the media, government, bmw, mercedes, staff, friends, relatives, people who funded the schitmers fake businesses who now seem to be forever chasing him for money or for any shred of common decency and honesty. All anyone ever wants is just the basic simple things you expect from people who claim to be faithful christians honesty and respect.
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# 29 March 2011 at 9:13 pm

halicondays said:
Schirmer is strapped for cash again, thats certainly how it looks because its looking for all the world like he’s created another pio to pay out his debts and screw another lot of unsuspecting investors over. Maybe people close to him really arent close to him at all tehteh. Hes looking for an international global universal phenomeanul editor for a loser magazine he stole several years back. Isnt that how it goes Davo? If you ask everyone who has ever had anything to do with you thats exactly how it goes but if you ask Davo, everyone who has ever had anything to do with him have been a bunch of losers who whinge about expecting a return on their investment and something for their tens of thousands given to him for what turned out to be nothing.
Predictable patterns become very perdictable after a while. close companies down write off the losses against other companies, steal money, shift funds through this one that one and every other one thinking noone would notice tut tut oops everybody does notice cept Davo, he thinks his God will ok it all and sign it off for him. Guess is the debts are piling and nowhere else to turn but to create something out of thin air and pull in a whole new bunch of suckers. One thing Davo is good at and that is being a masterful CON! Good luck this time Davo, you are going to really need it this time.
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# 21 April 2011 at 12:16 am

anonymous said:
That cant be the Succeed Magazine because according to the ASIC website that company is being struck off so if Schirmer is claiming it is a successful international company then he’s back to his usual bullshit conartist lifestyle again. Didnt take long did it and ironic how leopards just dont change those spots. Your guess that he’s hard on funds is prolly as close to the truth as anyones guess given its a pretty normal pattern now. If anyone has invested funds with him they are complete fools because all it takes is one check on anyone like asic, ato, previous employees, previous business associates, previous investors and clients to know that Schirmers only God given talent is to be a masterful con artist. Ironic how the magazine was called Succeed Magazine and it closed down though, that makes a perfect start for a losing publication. I reckon if people invested they can kiss that money goodbye because the next thing he’ll be doing is driving a new car, buying art work, new house and everyone else will be left wondering when they hell they are going to ever see anything honest from the guy. The facts are that if Schirmer had an ounce of honest bones in his body he would pay his debts instead of claiming he is God. I think his past life might haunt him for a very long time to come especially when it is concerning a certain magazine. Hoot hoot, I get a sudden gush of excitement feeling that there is so much more just waiting to happen with this guy. What Schirmer does to people is not something just disappears it just breeds and breeds and breeds until it all implodes on people like him because thats what they have created. The Schirmers of this life create a breeding ground for hate, distrust, disloyalty, dishonesty, greed, selfishness, arrogance, manipulation, narcissistic attitudes and it ends in theft of so much more than money. The consequences of which people like Schirmer have no concept of and refuse to acknowledge that they must live with if they choose that path in life. I think the guy is obsessed with money to be honest.
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Chenal Reply:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:49 am
@anonymous, That magazine was mostly made up of purchased articles. You can buy a bunch of articles to create a magazine online for about $25, add a few crappy comments of your own, put it all together and call it a magazine for personal development and the ONLY person it is developing is Schirmer fat arse pocket. Theres a company called pcarticles or something that sells these articles and there are a few good ones out there doing the same thing, people like Schirmer will milk ANYTHING to make himself rich, he is a fat arse weazil who doesnt give a shit about anyone else even if he successfully convinces anyone he does. Just watch him and get educated on how NOT to live.
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# 21 April 2011 at 12:53 am

teto said:
Hey Schirmer claims to be a faith walking Christian, given his life whatever the fuck that means but he does not claim to be law abiding citizen anywhere that I can find so if people invested with him this time around they are the fucking idiots and they can only expect what they get i.e. nothing. All you have to do with this guy is reverse everything he says and then you run like hell because its obvious he’s a greedy sleaze ball.
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Chenal Reply:
May 2nd, 2011 at 2:51 am
@teto, Bit harsh but understand where you are coming from. Schirmer is shameless and thats been mentioned probably a hundred times already for certain. He is a person who will sweet talk anyone about anything if he knows he’ll financially benefit from it in some way.
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# 21 April 2011 at 1:00 am

anonymous said:
The Australian ASIC have published a government gazette in April this year which has a string of Schirmers fake companies in it that are going to be struck off and I doubt he would want that to happen if he could afford to keep them going because failing is a poor diet. So I guess construe whatever you want from that and the current capital raising information blogs and offering a international publishing editors opportunity for a magazine that clearly failed but hes possibly trying to breathe life into. Speaks volumes to me, sadly. I feel sorry for anyone involved with those people it only ever goes from bad to worse.
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caleb Reply:
July 19th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
@anonymous, checked this out and its true, they are all gone forever along with his credibility.
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# 21 April 2011 at 1:25 am

teto said:
The guy is a loser, full stop!
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# 21 April 2011 at 1:27 am

Peter said:
Hey dude, I’m visualising too, visualising you running around with shit in your pants because the last people you cant pay because you are funding your fancy cars and house and lunches and trips overseas and stuff that you think is ok to buy with other peoples money, are the very people who you cant afford not to pay. anyone who takes money off people to fund their own debts if a fucking loser in every sense of the function and Schirmer is one.
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# 21 April 2011 at 9:44 pm

Anon said:
Was Schirmer caught using his rental house for a fake church?
Rental house up for rent again means Schirmers moved yet again. Damn those records and rental payments.
Rental house also up for sale, owners disposing of shit paying tenants after complaints from the wildlife who live within 5 miles of these scum suckers.
Schirmer still promising the world and offering the world nothing.
No surprises really, look somewhere else if you want surprises.
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Cheetah Reply:
April 23rd, 2011 at 4:57 am
@Anon, Everyone from one side of Australia to the other appears to be chasing schirmer for money these days. After having to hand back the dream house and the dream car Davo seems to be having trouble even keeping a rental house or car. Hes even asked God if he’s worth anything at all and God said “go forth my son you are a wonderful example of misery and the world needs to see how not to live so your purpose on this earth is very worthwhile, be blessed and go forth you wanker”. So Schirmer continues on in his own little deluded world believing everyone who sucks up to him is on his side and actually needs him. What he doesn’t realize is that he has more holes in his friendships than swiss cheese. When he finds out he gets all the more paranoid and deluded and makes up so much shit about everyone and every thing that he believes it. Oh its a charmed life being a fake rich man. These people are so incredibly proud that feel obliged to keep up a facade to make people believe they are something that they arent.
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anonymouse Reply:
April 24th, 2011 at 5:58 am
@Cheetah, Schirmers current comment on twitter goes like this , who you believe you are controls where you end up” that means he deludes himself to believe he is special and acts as if. Only deluded idiots go beyond infant school pretending. Hey Schirmer, there is actually a REAL world out there in case you are wondering why everyone is chasing you. The result of your delusional life means you are now paranoid parasite. Hows it feel?
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Turin Reply:
April 26th, 2011 at 5:53 am
@anonymouse, Ha ha, good point. Well he is ending up in a massive black hole which only God knows how he can get out of.
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MelbMania Reply:
April 26th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
@Anon, I did see that the house they are renting is up for rent again. The Schirmers are lunatics to spend that much renting a house even if they are claiming the rent you still have to pay it out especially when they are apparently up to their eyeballs in debt. Just shows you how proud some people become and how the devil can delude people so much and strip them of common sense. I think his ego from being involved in the secret movie will be the curse of their lives.
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# 21 April 2011 at 11:47 pm

Saltfilled said:
For a guy who rapes handicapped koalas this guy is so up his own arse he is crispy. He states on his facebook “Because I can read up to 20,000 words a minute and retain it I have read more than most people do in 10 lifetimes.” and he fucked up more than most people have in 10 lifetimes too. He is also shouting down his own relative it appears on facebook just because he does not agree with him. Like Schirmer knows it all and everyone else can fuck off unless they worship him. What a fucked up life that guy leads.
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Coco Reply:
April 28th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
@Saltfilled, Yes and I noticed that he has removed all the negative comments, ha ha, keeps on showing he cant handle the heat around the fire. Some smart person wrote “It seems to have turned into a “I know better than you” issue. Maybe not such a good idea. No God in oneupmanship.” True words and oneupmanship is what the Schirmers appear to have practiced and believe pointedly. I doubt they will ever get how completely stupid they look. Schirmer running a blog on his thoughts is like hitler. Believe what I believe and do what I say – or else! Its a threat and the guy has a serious control issue. He must have middle child syndrome or something because he acts patheticly immature when he’s questioned.
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anonymouse Reply:
May 4th, 2011 at 12:58 am
@Coco, Schirmer is what aussies call a wanker. He must have begun spending money he got in from a pio recently because hes gloating about his oh so hot latest techno purchase of a …. wait for it … ipad. Whoop whoop I hear everyone say, most of us have had one for years. His latest investors will be sitting back and watching Schirmer gloat about life luxuries hes suddenly able to buy for himself with their money and he will make sure they dont get a thing out of it. And he calls THAT a rich, wealthy and soulful christian life. Ha ha. And I’m Jesus.
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observer Reply:
August 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 am
@Saltfilled, @soso, Warren Buffet says “..”Time is the friend of the wonderful business, the enemy of the mediocre.”..”
To people who really know how Schirmer operates his business doesnt even make mediocre.
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# 28 April 2011 at 3:17 am

ifonlyheknew said:
David Schirmer very clearly subscribes to the theory that greed is good and that is what the secret and his beliefs have proved to be all about regardless of anything he says.
I actually fell for this philosophy when the secret came out but as soon as I separated myself from it and from Schirmers beliefs and integrated into the larger society I recognized that greed has no place in a familial community. I learned that we all have to subjugate our personal desires for the welfare of others.
To cover a philosophy of greed with a Christian coating is extremely deceitful but this is a man who has publicly proven to have no shame about doing this. You may read his comments and accept them but never disagree with him because he will always want the last say and in his eyes he is always right. He speaks down to people and he has a very strong desire to control everything everyone else says and does and it is always done in his favor.
Greed is an insatiable vice and here is one man who appears stuck down with a shocking life case. Often you discover that people like this have a family with a history of vice issues. Perhaps this is just another case….
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Peter Reply:
May 6th, 2011 at 1:57 am
@ifonlyheknew, Like what you said. One day this guy will wake up and realise what a perfect wanker he has been. Look at the amount of beautiful people who have passed through his businesses and his life and yet he is still renting, still ethically owing people probably millions by now, still considers himself more knowing and far better than anyone else, still faking it and god knows what else he’s still doing.
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anonymous Reply:
May 6th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
@Peter, This man is very proud
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observer Reply:
August 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 am
@Peter, Dont hold your breath ,,,,, as mentioned above ,,,,,
Greed is an insatiable vice
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# 5 May 2011 at 11:30 pm

PISSED OFF said:
David Schirmer is THE most dishonest person I have ever had the displeasure of meeting. He has a facade of being a genuine down to earth caring person BUT once you start digging you discover he is the exact opposite. He is nothing but a bloody greedy screwball who would suck every penny out of you while telling how wonderful you were.
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anonamouse Reply:
August 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
@PISSED OFF, Oi, you people out there who claim DS is full of BS, he never did state that he wasnt going to be a millionaire in the negative. So if thats the case he has always stated the truth, that he is a millioniare but a -$1,000,000 (i.e. thats one million dollars in debt!). He he he he, Davo doesnt have a hope in hell of ever repaying his debts to everyone who has ever given to him even if he does pray to his God, that still wont help him. Davo only has eyes for one person and thats the guy in his mirror.
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# 27 August 2011 at 6:28 am

assholehater said:
good to see asshole Schirmer being targeted by Salty and his followers. Its about time that this guy was put in his place and made to be accountable for all the bullshit he has crapped out.
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penny Reply:
October 1st, 2011 at 2:54 am
@assholehater, I have known this family for a long time. I have never met people more intent on covering up their wrong doing and pretending that they are good citizens even to the point of putting other people down who are so much better than them. I think initially they intended to do the right thing but money became the only thing that mattered in their life and all they saw was the high life, actually I dont think they have flicked that vice yet. Sadly all of that has crumbled along with their credibility and respect. I for one have nothing to do with them any more and ashamed to say that some people I know have not learnt their lesson yet. I know that some people were very hurt by what they did and have had the unfortunate situation to deal with people that are blinded by these people. I also know that David Schirmer is an incredible cheat and liar.
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Anonymous Reply:
October 4th, 2011 at 12:43 am
@penny, I have also known this family for a long time and the entire family seems really deceitful in my view. It is a known fact that SOMEONE WHO WOULD CHEAT ANOTHER OUT OF A FEW DOLLARS AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT IS SOMEONE WHO IS CAPABLE OF DOING ANYTHING and I suppose its been proved in some ways too. Its called a conscience, something which David Schirmer has lacked since he was a teenager at least it seems. For those of us who knew the family its not hard to believe what trouble they all ended up in (the schirmers at least). They lived as if the world owed them, like they were something special, they were knowalls whose knowall ended up being a bunch of crap and they were all schizophrenic narcissists some at least were diagnosed with real serious issues and got in trouble with the law frequently. I dont know the wife as well but I think she must be a pretty greedy person because shes hangs around for the glitz and glam promised and she puts up with the ever so frequent infidelities. Schirmer claiming to be associated with a church is like the biggest blasphemy ever and shame on her for going along with it knowing what he gets up to. They dont give a shit about anyone else but themselves although they are full of bullshit talk saying they care. I lost respect and trust years ago and I doubt anything has changed since then.
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GP Reply:
October 4th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
@Anonymous, Some people do not want to accept or suffer the pain of being exposed for what they have done to other peoples lives. This guy is that sort of person. Just remember church and honesty don’t equate either, never have and never will. There are all sorts of pedophiles in churches, just look at the catholic church issues for one. Its a good place to hide among people who want to trust and are sitting duck to be taken for a ride by people like David Schirmer. This guy is one of those shrewd and shameless operators who will do and say absolutely anything to anyone to get what he wants. And his partner is just as guilty for supporting it. What have they got to offer anyway? They arent experts at anything and least of all trading the stock market it appears which is his main claim to fame. Where’s the evidence??????? THERE IS NONE!
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anon Reply:
October 6th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
@GP, Schirmers twitter account says everything
28,908 Following
27,460 Followers
i.e. all the people he tried to follow have not followed back. On twitter you cant hide that you have added people just to get followers. This was an early twit trick until everyone woke up to how fake it all was.
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anon Reply:
October 6th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
@penny, I do not think the vice is flicked. How can you rent a $1200 a week house and have flicked a vice like greed when you know that you have taken so much from other people and given bugger all in return. These peoples actions tell the world who they really are and thats why they get the results they get. God help the offspring.
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pb Reply:
October 6th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
@anon, Schirmer is on the move it appears. I’ve just checked and that house is up for rent again. Ego budgets done last long. If the guy had any scruples at all hed swallow his pride, rent cheap and start paying all those people back. I did say “IF” he had any scruples. Remains to be seen…
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Jenny Reply:
October 7th, 2011 at 3:50 am
@anon, James Arthur Ray says that “money is a part of wealth it is not the totality of wealth” yet everyone included in the secret including DAVID SCHIRMER were totally focused on MONEY. They would not be in the trouble they are in today if they had good intentions as their focus. You go to any of their events and what music do they play ……………….money, money, money!!!
Oh yes, its money all right no matter what false misleading manipulative evil words come out of their mouths, it IS all about the MONEY.
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anonymous2 Reply:
October 10th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
@Jenny, This is a person who will never know peace or success until he sincerely apologises to all the people he stole from because of his own greed. He and his wife are completely deluded if they think that its ok to laugh off or whinge about the consequences of greed. There is always a price to pay and the more greedy they were the higher the price. Didnt they even go so far as putting themselves in a magazine boasting all sorts of bullshit while people were waiting to be paid? Honestly delusion is a serious problem in the personal development industry and fake christianity is a cover up which is incidentally transparent. Theres a whole new business fixing up psychological and financial issues created by the personal development industry in the last 10 years. Good luck on that one.
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# 13 September 2011 at 3:13 am

Buggeroff said:
Schirmer is one of those snake oil salesmen who practice the craft of deceit. He boasts of learning and using nlp, claimes hes such an amazing salesman and trader yet all he has proved is that he is just full of snake oil shit.
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Anonymous Reply:
October 22nd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
@Buggeroff, I spoke to someone about schirmer once and their comment was that “we don’t do business with snake oil salesmen like him”. I was actually shocked at the time because I respected some people who used to work for him and they seemed to believe he was ok. I found out since that they and many more employees left once they discovered what was really going down with Schirmer. I think his first product was actually quite good but it went downhill from there and he seemed to just get too greedy. It also became general knowledge that he was touching up his codirector can’t remember her name now and tasty morsels became a frequent habit apparently. He is a sly bugger and it has not surprised me that he was caught by ASIC because he always seemed to have a stupid laugh when he started talking about authority which seemed at odds with what he was trying to teach.
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# 7 October 2011 at 3:59 am

voodoojoh said:
Schirmer is attempting to educate people but his blitheri g dithering stuttering slow motion blabber is just another boring attempt at pretending hes go the answers to everything. Meanwhile hes broke
7stepstounlimitedwealth.com/offer/
If you listen this crap you will get the biggest laugh every. Enjoy! WANKER
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# 7 October 2011 at 11:10 pm

voodoojoh said:
Hahahahah schirmer is stuttering so fucking bad its sounds immaturely contrived
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anon Reply:
October 7th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
@voodoojoh, I paid $297 for that shit and now he is selling it for $77 and adding an 8th step. Should make everyone who paid full price pissed off. The whole program is just full of airy fairy shit and the seven steps are on his website anyway. That recording is pathetic. On another site he has 9 steps so the whole lot is a bloody pathetic attempt at trying to con people into handing over their money yet again. A typical grab for cash yet again.
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codie Reply:
October 8th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
@anon, There is something really weird about that recording. He sounds pissed off with life and whinging because shit happened to him. Well dickhead shit happens to everyone and especially people who screw others over to fund their lifestyle. I dont have any sympathy for those people because they knew what they were doing and if they really beleived in the law of attraction they would not say anything and they would accept what life threw at them. I dont think this guy has learnt anything so he is bound to repeat the same mistakes time and time again so look out world shitface schirmer is about to screw you over again. By the way what happened to all those people who sued him? I bet they were smart enough to just move on and not waste any more time on a fake like schirmer. I also think its not the people who sued him he needs to worry about its the ones who are pissed off and holding off. Yes I think this is a typical grab for cash because there is nothing that he can offer than has not been offered before and what could be so highly necessary that it could be worth buying from a douchebag like him? If his results are any example then good advice would be to sent his shit to the trash.
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ABCDEFG Reply:
October 8th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
@anon, Schirmer should check out the 7 deadly sins on wiki, oh wait there are 8 no 9, LOL. He’ll think up something to regurgitate his crap because he needs money. Will that guy ever make money honestly?
Historical and modern definitions of the deadly sins
1 Lust
2 Gluttony
3 Greed
4 Sloth
5 Acedia
6 Wrath
7 Envy
8 Pride
9 Vainglory
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anon Reply:
October 15th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
@ABCDEFG, @cullinair, Dickwick Dave says on one of his websites “trading is still the best wealth building vehicle we have on the planet, for those who know what they’re doing.” LOL seems he is bloody clueless at trading so what is there to learn from him? I guess thats why is he flogging a dead horse adding an 8th step because grasping at straws and kidding himself is the best he’s got these days. I have followed this guy for years and am amazed at how often he comes up with the same narcissistic crap when everyone knows hes just full of shit and lives of everyone else.
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# 7 October 2011 at 11:14 pm

ELB said:
Schirmer is desperate for money again!!!!
Schirmer is releasing again his 7 step program but wait, it has 8 steps and you dont get the 8th step until you buy it.
Hey frankenstein the 8th step is what you call faith which is what you have been talking about for the last few years. Poor bastard, cant get it right can he.
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anonymous Reply:
October 8th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
@ELB, Cant he get anyone to offer him any NON RECOURSE LOANS!!!!! He used to boast of this stuff years ago and if there was anything that set my alarm bells ringing it was this guys financial advise which ironically is appears he had no authority to talk about. A non recourse loan means the person loaning the money should never expect it back again!!!! Oh how convenient is that for these shiesters. I feel sorry for anyone who ever gave him any money because there is not a hope in hell they will ever see him pay them back. You feel like warning the world about these creeps and how they operate in unit trust and use non recourse loans and stuff. Way over my head now but I sure understood what he was saying then and I didnt trust him.
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# 7 October 2011 at 11:22 pm

Felicitatious said:
@ELB, I cant find his 8 steps stuff anywhere, maybe he’s pulled it because people are wise to his stupidity. The 8th step would be either faith, gratitude or action. They seem to be his most frequently used words on his websites. What is more interesting is that the stuff that the schirmers spruik about they don’t have in their own lives but the cover it up with religion and just pretend everything is hunky-dory.
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# 9 October 2011 at 10:28 pm

Genderbender said:
“Here’s a direct quote from David’s Schirmer’s Trading Edge company web site:
[David Schirmer] now drives the car of his dream, the latest BMW M5, owns real estate, has numerous businesses and this year will make a personal income from trading and business in excess of $1.5 million.”
Question: What happened?
Answer: Lies, more lies and very poor choices!
Hmmmm — I know who I wouldn’t have as a life and wealth mentor. Why does he think that rejiggering and old product would make his results any different? Again poor choices with very negative consequences. Get a new job i.e. a real job you fool.
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cullinair Reply:
October 15th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
@Genderbender, We are now used to turd faced lies from this guy but I had to have a laugh about his latest trick of claiming to be an author. As far as I can research the guy has not written one book. Apparently he co “authored” the big secret though. Now don’t all get excited at once because if you look at the secret and you look at Schirmers contribution in it you can see that he lacked any sense of authorship whatsoever. I don’t think claiming to be able to park a car is a very honorable addition to what has turned out to be the biggest grab for cash of all time. It does look though, as if Mr Schirmer is trying to reinvigorate his chances of milking the secret a little longer. Good luck grandpa Schirmer, I doubt it will fund your retirement plans.
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Shaine Reply:
October 20th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
@cullinair, Where is the original author of the secret now? I find it fascinating how the people labelled in the secret have mostly turned out to be shiesters. Sad for the genuine folk who really cared about making the world a better place. I have never bought the book but I read it at a book store and found it grossly lacking in so many ways. Actually I thought of it as one of those books that people buy read because someone said they should because of the hype then it gets put in the back of the bookshelf to collect dust which to me seemed a poor investment and a waste of space.
Everyone dreams and that is what makes the world a more interesting place but these people were all milking the system of easy finance and as a consequence a lot of people who followed their advice are now in serious financial trouble it seems probably even including this guy.
Notice how the secret people have changed direction in their careers lately? Why is that I wonder? Because they know the crap they taught back then does not work now in the new economy. They have to dream up other ways to steal from people to make a living and fund their own dreamy lifestyles.
This guy is a real classic though. His original claim was trading the stock market then he moved to personal development then how to finance stuff then back to trading then he threw church in among that somewhere. I dont think he is good at anything in particular but I think he was riding the tide like all other shiesters out there.
I dont know how he could possibly reinvigorate something that is already dead. I think this guys record at business is very ordinary and he even appears a shady character.
I think its high time the authorities stepped in and dealt with these guys with appropriate regulations. It seems ludicrous that they use so much crap in their marketing and everybody can tell its all lies and yet no one appears able to do anything about that.
To me they look like they are living on the very edges of the law drooling at all the money people who live outside the law get and wishing it was theirs, dreaming what they would do with it if it was theirs. I do feel sad for their families because its them who pay big time and these guys go on blindly not realizing what they are doing psychologically to the peoople closest to them.
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J E Reply:
October 21st, 2011 at 1:38 am
@Genderbender, That is so damn arrogant. What pisses me off is that everything that guy says he always puts himself above everyone else. I dont give a shit what he does but he should stop whinging. Stop blaming everyone else because where there is smoke there is ALWAYS a fire so the guy is not innocent. Grow up man! You screwed up big time, swallow your pride and stop screwing up.
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# 10 October 2011 at 6:39 pm

Anonymous said:
At the end of the day all people do is associate the name Schirmer with “fraud” in whatever context that takes on.
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Buggeroff Reply:
October 20th, 2011 at 1:53 am
@Anonymous, Yes well some assholes just don’t ever get it. Any grab for cash doesn’t change the fact of once a fraud always a fraud.
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Barb Reply:
October 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
@Buggeroff, Another cretinous asshole. Why do these creeps hide their filthy greedy habits behind the trusting and women? Got to feel for this guys family and especially his partner. Hes about as innocent as a nun doing press-ups in a cucumber field.
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# 17 October 2011 at 2:06 am

187924593278 said:
David Schirmer BOO Is this one of the blogs you watch ?
You have really made a fool of yourself this time mate. Sorry mate you’ve lost me now and probably a number of other people also.Reading through some of the comments on this blog I only find myself agreeing, When you learn to take responsibility for your own actions you might get a bit more respect because its pretty obvious you screwed up. When you’ve done that stop bullshitting everyone. Right the past and you might get a bit of respect for the future.
If I could offer you a few bits of advice “Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one getting burned.” gautama buddha
“All that we send into the lives of others comes back into our own.” Edward Markham
But you already know this apparently. My lesson is to “Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment.” Because that all we get from you.
Cheers
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DownPlunder Reply:
November 17th, 2011 at 12:04 am
@187924593278, Boohoo!
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# 23 October 2011 at 3:34 am

J F G said:
What is this man doing now, The webs sites he runs half done and some not to date or even functioning. I hope he develops piles who think they can do and take responsibility not.
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# 25 October 2011 at 8:28 pm

Joe said:
This guy reminds me of that song
Sex God Money
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# 27 October 2011 at 6:35 am

Anonymous said:
I received an email from someone and I wanted to check for myself what the contents really meant. This is what I have learnt:
1. Read, read again and investigate.
2. Ask questions and deliberate.
3. Make a decision ONLY on once you have calmly and rationally deliberated the information in front of you.
4. Separate yourself from the author and the recipients of the email COMPLETELY.
If there was ever a time I felt cheated, disgusted, appalled, framed, used, ashamed, manipulated, stupid – it is NOW!
The person who I thought would give me what I needed to make a good life, a profitable life, a life to be proud of, has just entered into the most despicable world of “never to return from this decision” and I am left to wonder why the HELL I ever listened to anything he said. You know who you are. you know what you have done and what you have said. you claim to know better than anyone else (or at least that is what you told everyone) that if you did this or that everything would be amazing.
Well guess what, it is not amazing and I did everything that you said. instead I find I have been completely mislead by someone who has decided that blaming others and claiming they are a saint is far more worthy than taking responsibillity. I did not realise what I was getting into and neve again will I trust this person or anyone associated with them.
I have discovered that mans greed is far more potent than their love regardless of what comes out of their mouthes.
Disgusted, absolutely disgusted.
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DownPlunder Reply:
November 30th, 2011 at 2:54 am
@Anonymous, You can be sure that anything coming from someone like this who spruiks about his intention to be a global successful superstar at anything is nothing more than a veiled attempt to suck the reader in to give give give so he can take take take. Just the usual bunch of crap
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# 28 October 2011 at 2:04 am

gogonuts said:
“But, I started to really question about the whole success philosophy, then started the manufacturing business and that went really good for a short time. Then, like sometimes in business, the wheels fall off.
All of a sudden we found ourselves massively in debt. We couldn’t pay our rent. We were about to be evicted from our home. We hadn’t paid the registration on our vehicle and were driving around in an unregistered vehicle. I was on unemployment benefits and without a job… (To read more click below)
So, we all of a sudden found ourselves in the situation that then perpetuated. It got worse, and worse, and worse.”
quote from David Schirmers own web page.
My question ———————- WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR HEAD
?
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native dork Reply:
October 28th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
@gogonuts, I have never read so much bullshit from one person. David Schirmer is so fucking deluded its incredible. You read his crap and you realise what a bloody idiot you were for getting taken by him in the first place. His charming cover is a well mastered act and his stories are almost believable right up until you start asking questions. As soon as you start asking questions then comes the blame or the shaft, your pick. He says on his latest greasy 8th step video that in 2006 he was well on his way to becoming a billionaire. What broad faced fucking lies. I wonder if Bob Proctor knows about that and all those other people who reckon he owed them money. If you are that fucking rich shut your detractors up by paying your fucking dues.
Oh fuck me this how it goes right as soon as you hand money over to Schirmer its his money which I found out years ago when I tried to get a refund so I foolishly gave up. It looks like that is what happened to those life success investors too. Then it has surfaced that when people try to get paid by Schimer fuck me again its his company that owes you not him.
This guy wonders why the hell the wheels fall off. I reckon he met his match with Proctor and that gave him the shits. Schirmer lives his life with a grudge and a chip on one shoulder. Every piece of shit marketing that ever came from him was full of bullshit. I have never met a wealthy business person who writes and acts like this guy. Theres something completely deluded about the whole package. Anger lessons would be a good start, then honesty lessons, then writing lessons, then learn those fucking lessons.
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J L E Reply:
October 29th, 2011 at 3:26 am
@native dork, Oh no its not just Proctor. I’ve just seen that Schirmers latest thing is to blame the aca television show in Australia for exposing him, his exemployees for being vindictice, bob proctor and gerry roberts for stealing from him, the asic in australia for completely getting it wrong and probably everyone else who had the guts to say enough is enough all for being so wrong about him. Really? Frankly I’m appalled. I was a customer of theirs years ago but I lost interest as soon as I saw some things going on with his previous co director who also got shafted by him. Then a previous employee left and started a business called Wealth Within which is a very successful business I believe and that gave Schirmer the shits. Proctor probably did give him the shits too but to be honest everybody who makes any sort of business agreement with him does and they all end up at odds with Schirmer saying he owes them? who to believe? What bothers me is that Schirmer has always boasted of being some sort of guru when theres never been any proof that he has any particular skills at all except perhaps for taking money from people in any way he can. Some of these people like Schirmer end up so mangled in their mind that they have lose any sense of reality and cant see what they are doing to themselves. To me it now appears he can never admit that he ever does anything wrong. I’m new to this blog having been lead here by Schirmers comments but when I read Saltys info about James Ray, Perry Belcher and all those guys who make completely unbelievable claims about themselves just to get people to hand over money. Its not hard to see who is completely crazy. I think its a healthy thing to think you can do stuff and have good goals but by god I have no respect for people who think they have some sort of right to take everything and put people down who simply want what is theirs.
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Anonymous Reply:
October 29th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
@J L E, If a person is publicly outing what has proved to be their greatest weakness it is a very poor way to improve their life outcomes. Saying nothing at all is a far more admirable end.
“What most people need to learn in life is how to love people and use things instead of using people and loving things.” (Author Unknown)
“The wise stand out because they see themselves as part of the Whole. They shine because they don’t want to impress. They achieve great things because they don’t look for recognition. Their wisdom is contained in what they are, not their opinions. They refuse to argue, so no-one argues with them.” —Lao Tzu
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Iknow Reply:
November 6th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
@Anonymous, Thankyou!
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pooman Reply:
November 11th, 2011 at 4:13 am
@J L E, There is proof that he is a frauduct so thanks from me too.
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# 28 October 2011 at 3:50 am

Fenpal said:
moneymanagement.com.au/news/The-Secret-contributor-banned-for-life-by-ASIC
Old news but good warning. You would have to be prepared to sacrifice your lifes savings if you put any money with someone like this.
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Shingle Reply:
November 8th, 2011 at 5:53 am
@Fenpal, God help the Schirmer grubstakers, they will probably never see their money again. What digs Schirmer? You greedy person.
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# 6 November 2011 at 6:41 pm

Zipmarketing said:
Not only do I think this guy is a fraud, he has started using embedded audio in his marketing crap. I have just made a rule to direct all of his shit to the trash can without even looking at it. If he thinks that it is smart marketing then I intend to outsmart him and every other person who he has copied this type of marketing off. What pisses me off more than anything is that you cannot fast forward anything and it repeats over and over and over again. I think its the most pathetic FORCED marketing crap ever. I refuse to be FORCED to listen to any shit from anyone who claims they are the worlds best marketer, trader, personal development guru or any other fake wannabe. The very fact that these people use this type of marketing shows what their real intentions are. Nobody who had made it uses that crap.
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silentwitness Reply:
November 10th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
@Zipmarketing, When i get any emails from this guy I read laugh and send them to the scrap heap. When I get emails from people who I know who have worked for him or with him, I read them and keep them. I only give people one chance to be honest with me and I made my mind up a long time ago that this guy was full of bullshit and treated people like shit to get what he wanted.
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pooman Reply:
November 11th, 2011 at 4:08 am
@silentwitness, Ditto, what a wanker
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# 9 November 2011 at 1:30 am

Rigger said:
This guy is PURE propaganda
“Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position so as to benefit oneself or one’s group.”
He’s full of it and himself.
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# 9 November 2011 at 6:17 am

DownPlunder said:
I believe the James Ray case gave a warning to the world and everyone attempting to pretend they are experts at anything, that greed and fast money is not an acceptable or honorable method of obtaining wealth. I believe that anyone who attempts to take from others with the intention of making themselves rich is only kidding themselves and the people who matter in their lives because there are no free rides in this life. Kid yourself for as long as you feel comfortable but be prepared to accept the consequences. Seem very few are so tell me I’m wrong.
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# 18 November 2011 at 3:46 am

DownPlunder said:
I have a new nick name for this guy ….
“Schirmer the Charlatan”
Christmas came early in the form of James Rays jail time. That gives everyone plenty of time to pluck this turkey.
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# 29 November 2011 at 3:26 am

BChillin said:
If ever there was a guy who is a slid ball its ………………………………David freakin Schirmer. Hiding everything from everyone including his family became a game to him. What a wanker. Make the guy pay, hes a slime ball.
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SD Reply:
December 16th, 2011 at 4:36 am
@BChillin ::
Different IP huh?
Has something given you the impression that I’m stupid?
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BChillin Reply:
December 21st, 2011 at 8:28 pm
@SD, Oi I’m nobody but me. I live in closer territory than you so I should know a thing or two. Merry Christmas and good work too, keep it up.
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DownPlunder Reply:
January 24th, 2012 at 6:32 am
@BChillin, Good to see you are closer because being Saltys girlfriend, a parasite needs watching in case it mutates. He does seem to be feeling blessedly important these days though so he hasn’t yet mastered preaching to himself. And in true parasitic nature he has mastered benefiting at the expense of others without giving any useful return and undoubtedly living on the hospitality of the poor souls foolish enough to listen.
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C Jones Reply:
May 7th, 2012 at 7:02 am
@BChillin, this guy has all but disappeared, apparently his wife is out working and he is probably eating so much more of the golden arches that he cant get out of the house. He does seem to be trying to appeal to his god for his future at the GROW church in melbourne australia. I guess there is a lot of sin to need forgiveness for but I’m curious to know if he ever made good to anyone. I’m thinking not. I get an impression that his version of religion wouldnt reach that far.
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OzzieObserver Reply:
May 19th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
@C Jones, Think he’s back into the sleazy business of MLM with ACN now and his wifes out working. Dave was recruiting for business partners on facebook last week though. Pity the poor suckers who get charmed into business with the weazil while he creates a bunch of lies as to how they will benefit enooooormously if they just get in the zone with him (yuk). Ironically hes still on about marriage and god and all that crap, pretty much everything he has never represented but I guess the fakeness makes people believe he is trustworthy and that, in his eyes, pays. Does he not realise that there were so many people who witnessed his indiscretions, really Dave, time to just shut up about stuff you clearly know nothing about. What is ironic is the only people who seem convinced about Daves pleas for someone to have a burning desire to earn money to fund his lifestyle again appear to live in different countries and probably dont even know the guy. Ha ha, and so the cycle continues.
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# 16 December 2011 at 4:31 am

OzzieObserver said:
further ,,,,, following thousands of people on facebook to use them to market to is typical of the Schirmers of this world. But he cons people by referring to them as “friends”. I’m one of those and Schimer ain’t no friend of mine I’m just curiously watching his demise because frankly I’m disgusted in the guy. All it does is prove he is a desperate fool and confirms that he was the fake we all thought he was. Just another rule for the inbox ==
Apply this rule after the message arrives with “Schirmer” in the subject
Move it to the “TRASH” folder
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