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SD (author) said:
NOTICE :: $25 PayPal bucks to whoever sends me the most embarrassing/humiliating photo from the cruise. Two rules ::
1. You have to send it this week … before the cruise is over.
2. It has to be of a d-bag already named on the blog.
… come on people! It will add excitement to the week :: and it will probably be the most money you make online all year.
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SD Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Come on chicken shits :: PICTURES!!!
Bacak + Toilet Seat + Adderall = Fun 4 All
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Dickless Droid Reply:
January 18th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Try offering more than $25 you cheap fuck.
Not everyone sells their soul as cheap as you do Ben.
Oh, yeah I forgot. You already EXPLAINED that wasn’t you. Sorry.
LOSER!! ::   -4
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SD Reply:
January 18th, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Actually :: due to deleterious changes in economic conditions completely outside of my control :: I’m forced to reduce the offer to $7.50 … paid in installments of course.
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Dickless Droid Reply:
January 18th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Cool.
Then you’ll have my photos in 30 minutes.
Um – is your price per photo? ‘Cause I have a LOT
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# 11 January 2010 at 8:14 am

JohnReese said:
hahahahahahaha
Too funny.
I wonder if Eben is sharing a room with Mike?
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWd5fftDZ4s
Seriously… Just too funny.
Will Kern ride along tied to the back of the boat surfing?
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LiarCrusher Reply:
April 25th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
@JohnReese
ROFLMAO…this is too funny…my ribs hurt!!
Eben Pagen reminds me of John Turturro in Brother, Where Art Thou…and I just can’t believe anyone even asks Mike Full-of-Shitbag for the time of day…I’d really rather miss my flight!!
What a skeezy scumbag convention…my skin is crawling just watching the video. No need to venture to Dante’s inferno, Folks, we have all the concentric (Lords of the…) Rings of Hell in a single room…{barf} You couldn’t pay me enough money to stand in a room with those monsters…unless you promise me I get to hrow one into the fire, then I’m the first one off the bench! ;D
David DeTurdo…too flippin’ funny…this whole network and all the backstories needs to Come Out!!
Let’s create a Fact Bank and someone can do a Compile on the whole network of these douchy scumbags, their Real Origins (like that priceless picture of dorkface Kern and his profile from ages back!) and backstories, and who they have “donned the costume” to portray to ply you from your money!
Thankfully Mike and David/Eben/Evil finished their unsavory mating practices BEFORE the filming started! {insert more wretching!}
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# 11 January 2010 at 9:15 am

TimeManager said:
Funny video. It took him 10 YEARS to design a time management program? The irony is hilarious when you actually listen to these guys.
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Anonymous Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Well what do you want? Pagan took a 15 year old book and tried to pass it off as his own idea and through his sleazy selling got and people to pay thousands of dollars. So were the people stupid or was he a fraud?
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SD Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
… well if he was fraud then the people’s intelligence can’t be measured … spotting liars is a special skill few have.
but also the people :: all people :: are most def stupid. so fucking stupid. we all need a big fat slapping.
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Anonymous Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Well based on that then pagan is a genius. He sees the the meek and is in for the kill.
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# 11 January 2010 at 9:47 am

kilstein watcher said:
Here is Mikey today pimping for the new magic bullet sales video made by jenkins organization copy by kern with all the toadies mailing:
http://the8figurecode.com/
Watch and you see Mieky today. Slobbernet mailed too for a jenkins produced video.
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hmm Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 12:42 am
WTF is with those extreme dark circles under Filsaimes’ eyes?
It’s like the Emperor from Star Wars, only shorter and wearing the wal-mart business fashion line.
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Horace Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
You might have circles under your eyes too if you had to live in the constant shadow of towering mushrooms.
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SD Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Ha! :: Very $exy your eye!
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Horace Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Actually, it’s Very $exy your EYE! Using the word “eye” in less than all caps changes the meaning completely. And we certainly don’t want to fucking offend anyone.
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# 11 January 2010 at 4:06 pm

Ron said:
Cant wait to see who is together on this one.
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# 11 January 2010 at 4:52 pm

Ken said:
I have seen Mike work and I think he tries to be above the rest of the bums. How can you say he is scum and slime like the others just because he knows them?
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Dearl Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
How have you seen Mike work? And were you using a flashlight?
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Spotty Reply:
February 15th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Not scum and slime? He was business partners with a convicted sex offender! He just hired 50 “models” (aka, hos) to keep his affiliates from looking like the dweebs they are – while his wife sat at home with the kids. Wake up people.
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# 11 January 2010 at 6:22 pm

the voice of reason said:
Kind of an interesting post, but a little incoherant, and off topic. But I’m not here to fight with you…today.
One thing that is kind of interesting–after reading you numerous times mocking my statement that the FCC regulation was going to be a big deal in how these guys market their products (in that, at the very least, they’ll throw up the FCC statement that, “these results aren’t typical, and the actual average result is ZERO”), did you check out how the video for “The magic bullet system” starts?
Right out of the box, it starts with those statements, and a direct reference to the FCC regulations.
Anyway, it’s pretty damn funny the way Filsaime goes on about how he rarely offers bonuses–proof that the magic bullet whatever is a VERY unique program.
Yeah, sure, Mike. I’ve listened to Filsaime offer up his 7figurecode for free (how’s that make the people who ponied up the 10K for this program, I wonder), just for buying product X through his link at least three times.
I’ve gone through 7figuresystem, and I imagine I’ll be going through his 8figure program as soon as it is realesed.
Same thing with Amish’s product. I’ll most likely have this product within two weeks. But, since CPA doesn’t interest me, I’ll probably send it to recycle bin heaven after taking a look at it, just out of curiosity (I’m not going to clog up my HD, just because it has a bullshit $3,000 value attached to it).
Which brings me to another interesting thing I thought of after Salty showed his annoying true lib colors…Salty, have you actually SEEN any of these products? Have you actually gone through any of them? Just interested. You sure talk as if you have. I’d bet a dollar of my money against a $100 of yours that you haven’t seen any product by any of these guys that I haven’t seen. Oh, and for those running the math costs through their minds, get real…this is 2010 for fuck sakes.
Not that it’s a prerequisite to bashing the shit out of these people. But, it does bring a bit of a dynamic to the discussion if you can every once in a while say WHY the products they’re releasing suck.
So, you duck most questions, but, what products have you actually seen? Just curious.
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Ken Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I can answer because I have bought. many of them. At least Mike tries to give us real products that are like buying software. The shit I got from Kern and Pagan are rehashed trash. I stop buying from them. On top of that based on this site to find out that Kern and Pagan are absolute lairs about who they are and what they made just burns my ass. They better keep looking over their shoulders when they are in public because sometimes accidents just happen. Then I bought Walker, 3 times each with a promise that there was something new. Ok, now after getting 2 refunds for selling me, yet another rehashed product.
Now we are going to buy Amish Shah? It is at the point that anyone that has anything to do with Kern and Pagan is off my list including who sends me emails selling me anything they have anything to do with.
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208-577-6210 Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Ken. Mike Filsaime does not sell products of substance. The fact that you recognise the worthlessness of Kern and Pagan makes me surprised you can’t see a slimier version in Filsaime.
(1)His ‘software’ is invariably…not software. Usually just membership of his affiliate program, disguised in some way. The packaging may lead you to believe that what he sells ‘does something’, but this is simply not the case. I have the evidence (no VOR/FGCT, I didn’t pay for it..) sitting about a foot to my left just now. Though perhaps if you also implemented all his expensive training materials, the software might help you sell more of his products as an affiliate. (Result not typical)
(2)My username here is the number of the call centre Mike outsources some of his dirty deeds to. You should go to http://saltydroid.info/russell-brunson-rocks-the-kasbah/ and read Salty’s post in full. Having been the one who accepted the call, I know for a fact that Mike was selling NOTHING – and I really mean white noise – emptiness – a void – nothing. Even the salesman didn’t actually know the substance of what he was selling…but Mike wanted all my money anyway!
Check out that post, and look again at Mike’s products (many of which are sold as ‘information’, not software) with a more critical eye. You might be surprised at just how sleazy the whole operation actually is.
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Tom Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Oh yes: that “Magic Bullet” promotion disclaimer ATTEMPT. I’m guessing they really thought they’d come up with something clever doing it that way. It would appear though that they may still have a big liability hole dug for themselves: immediately following that cute little “disclaimer,” it goes on to say how much the “system” earned them. Whoops – can you say IMPLIED TESTIMONIAL? I bet the FTC can. You can bet the FTC will look very negatively at doublespeak and conflicting messages. That kind of thing is exactly why they are cracking down now.
There is an online FTC complaint form. If this stuff bothers you, use it, and encourage others to do the same. You can also name affiliates in the complaint if you so choose. They are willing participants.
And later, if anyone reading this who has bought that stuff feels they deserve a refund (regardless of any refund limitation verbiage), you might consider demanding one on the basis that you didn’t earn the same big money they claimed to have earned, if in fact you don’t earn that kind of a fortune.
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208-577-6210 Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
“Oh, and for those running the math costs through their minds, get real…this is 2010 for fuck sakes.”
Yes, yes, you did this all of last year too – “no I didn’t pay, this is 2009″ etc. We’re all very impressed that you know how to download torrents. But please don’t brag about it when 2011 rolls around… 3 years would be 3 too many.
But more to the point, the high-and-mighty “I don’t offer bonuses” crap IS hilarious, given that every ‘valuable’ product he does is whored out to some affiliate deal about a week after release. And even if a product looks half-decent (this one doesn’t), when Mike Filsaime offers a bonus it’s the surest sign that the product is overpriced and totally fucking worthless. I’d save your bandwidth.
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# 11 January 2010 at 7:14 pm

Dave said:
I don’t get it.
People tried xfigurebullshit. It was crap. Let me check out x+figurebullshit. Why? Why would anyone subject themselves to repeated doses of crap? If the first one didn’t get you the “success” you so crave, why go any further? Why not recognize that nobody can provide you with the genie vase?
I use the xfigure crap to represent all of the self-help “products”. I mean seriously, someone who has bought more than one of these things, help me to understand why you would do that. Why didn’t the first one help you achieve a multi-billion dollar business so you could retire and do nothing but heckle other losers? I get the biggest kick out of these guys who have started multiple multi-million dollar businesses (and now want to share how to do it with you). Seriously? Why? How many millions does it take to buy a nice little island off the coast and become a recluse?
Of course, I wonder how much of this has to do with their deliberate obfuscation of the difference between revenue and income? “I made $20,000 in the first week” takes on a whole new perspective when that number is actually revenue that passed through, and their margin was only (I’m guessing) 1-2%. A little harder to live on $400 per week than on $20k. However, since this is all speculation on my part, can anyone confirm this is how this crap works?
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yep Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
That difference between revenue and income is really worth questioning. These guys often have to pay LARGE commissions to affiliates (it could be half or even more). Plus, they have operating costs and other expenses. Then there are those pesky REFUNDS (probably a fair number). When someone says they “made” a million bucks last year online, it makes me wonder if they took home 50k. There are easier ways to earn a living (and that allow you to sleep better at night).
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208-577-6210 Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
I suspect you’re right. Frank Kern’s main claim to fame is in his sales letters doing, for example, $24m in SALES. And he always says ‘sales’ quite pointedly, being such an honest guy. (Or just once-bitten, twice-shy after the whole FTC thing)
He also likes to say ‘over 20 million dollars’ a lot to build on the idea. But the sales letters he talks about are usually the serializer seminar, the Neil Strauss DVD set, StomperNet, and Pipeline profits.
Combined SALES – $23.8 million ($2.48 if the affiliates ask)
Combined net profits – ?
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SD Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
@Dave :: Most people caught up in this mess buy more than one total fail of a product.
The d-bags round up n00bs :: and they use group/cult tactics to sell them on false hope. It’s the group tactics that matter .. the echo chamber .. the guilt .. the blame the victim shit .. getting you to bring in members of your family to increase your commitment … etc etc etc.
I’d say most victims never allow themselves to come to the realization that they’ve been flat taken. The are sucked totally dry … and then spit out. Then they meekly slink away feeling bad about themselves … and a new batch of fish is ushered into the d-bag nets.
99% failure :: 65% turnover each year :: A cattle to slaughter production line.
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Carl Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
That “Magic Bullet” product is $3,000.00. THREE…THOUSAND…DOLLARS.
Allow me to spell that out with sufficient white space to enable everyone to really visualize the enormity of that amount:
T H R E E T H O U $ A N D D O L L A R $
Isn’t that “magic bullet” also a HOSTED service? Meaning, you are paying $3,000.00 for ADMISSION only?!
(*technically $2,997.00 but this is using conventional IM marketing math.)
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SD Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
Yeah but it’s worth it because they used it to make $5 million per year :: and that’s not a testimonial :: it’s a testimonial … see the difference?
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Dearl Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Interesting comment on another blog. Commenter points out that after paying the BIG MONEY for this magic bullet service, THOSE GUYS have access to all YOUR data and can see what is working. Meaning YOU could be paying them AND providing free research, too. Good point.
http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/affiliate-marketing/truth-amish-shahs-jay-styles-magic-bullet-system/
Comment by Jeremy King
2010-01-12 03:19:39
The BIG problem here is that if you buy the system AMISH and his team have all your data. They can quickly sift through all the campaigns and pinpoint exactly which ones are working. That is a huge issue. I don’t trust them. Basically, anyone who buys is a guinea pig and they just went off and spent lots of money to test campaigns without AMISH and his people having to spend a dime. I’m surprised no one has brought this up on all the forums.
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_cartman_ Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 1:33 am
Great point! It has been mentioned, but those posts are quickly “removed”, well from the warrior forum anyways (big surprise there).
Most of Filsaime’s “programs” are such that you do the work, and Filsaime builds his list. From affiliate jump, his paydotcom.com affiliate system, to the all new “magic bullshit” system (and a half dozen others).
He then uses those lists to promote things like Andros SMTB program. And speaking of the Imbeciliac Andros (glad you brought that up)…
On a side note…..
A shout out to the person (who shall and wants to remain nameless) informed me where Andros lives…
At first I thought it was BS…butt no…I compared the video footage I had, to photos of the building (available online).
Is it in Santa Monica?…yes it is…
Is it in an apartment complex by the beach?…yes it is….
It is 372-437sqft (ironic…she also complained about living in a 500sqft tiny apartment in Vancouver…some things don’t change)?…yes it is….
Did she make her launch video from the rooftop skylounge (actually it’s like a big oversized closet with a balcony..butt whateva!)?…yes she did…
Is it a short term rental/short term lease building with pre furnished studio and one bedroom suites (much like a hotel with an attitude)…why yes it is… and thanks for asking.
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Rocky Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 1:45 am
OMG…Maria and her “skylounge.” That’s freaking hysterical.
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Jimmy T. Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 1:53 am
It would seem that the “Magic Bullet” is just a retooled version of the now-mothballed “Hexatrack” service (hexatrack.com) which previously cost $50 a month. Nice price upgrade, eh? $3,000.00. Ouch.
Info on old Hexatrack service:
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ADtCwZ9sI
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Rafael Marquez Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 10:01 am
I remember hexatrack, it actually worked fairly well. I wasn’t crazy about them having access to all of my data, but the product was free so I lived with it. Then they started charging money for it and I stopped using it, why pay them for the privilege of doing their market research?
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SD Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 2:28 am
And if Mike {or his baby boy Amish} can mail to your customers :: then he can also whore them out to blood thirsty boiler rooms … because what the hell does he care if that burns through your list like a wild fire? He closes a couple BS “home equity” loans :: or cleans out the retirement accounts of two well-to-do just retired 60 year old ladies … and BOOM! :: totally worth it to him. And you :: his paying customer :: fuck you.
As someone said to me recently :: sadly :: “just maxing out credit cards is for pussies.”
Hexatrack was a good find. What a joke!
@cartman send me a link to the skylounge … i want to gawk too
Please note that I helped the Garden Gnome find his hat :: but the beard was self inflicted
http://picasaweb.google.com/thomashbeal/AnikMikeLaunchTree#5316270454140345282
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Hooverstein Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 3:00 am
Great pic of grandpa Gnome! Seems out of place to see him not leaning up against a mushroom. Of course, that is probably what he will actually look like in just a few short years. What’s the dart board for in the background? Do they use that to decide when affiliates get paid?
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_cartman_ Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Hey Salty dude…..you have mail….gawk away…
:)
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# 11 January 2010 at 8:54 pm

Tom Porky said:
pedophiles – now I understand why StomperNet has an image of a wet little girl in a bathing suit on their member forum front page :)
VOR, it’s the FTC not the FCC. If you need me to example the difference I will.
After Mike Filsaime launched Money Tree a thread started in the StomperNet forum about how he does not follow through on bonuses and his customer support never fixes anything. There was a huge number of members setup with Mike but then Andy Jenkins came to his rescue. After writing a looong post telling his StomperNet members to shut up and get a life, he deleted the entire thread. Did you see Andy hiding under the bed covers with Eben and Mike?
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SD Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 2:42 am
What? Mike … not following through? Surely you jest …
Unless you mean like in this video :: http://the8figurecode.com/ :: where he offers a special seminar with him and Amish at his prestigious Long Island offices :: and then Amish calls and says he can’t do it :: and the gnome looks back up and keeps going as though we didn’t just see that his “bonus” was “planned” at the literal last second … and had already failed. I would find that shocking if this wasn’t a post about him forgetting :: or not caring enough :: to remove a pedophile from his family vacation marketing.
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# 11 January 2010 at 10:14 pm

SD (author) said:
Using random complaints to The Droid’s inbox as the measure :: Affiliate Jump :: one of Mike’s recent “real products” was the biggest rip off of the year. Nothing else was even close.
I don’t really understand the ins-and-outs of the affilate sales systems though :: so I didn’t write about it.
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R.J. Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Here’s a GREAT blog post about that “affiliate jump.”
http://www.ppc.bz/industry-news/affiliate-jump-the-scam-of-the-century
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SD Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Yeah that’s pretty good :: notice all the double colons?
I better get my fucking royalties!
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R.J. Reply:
January 11th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Hmmm…hadn’t noticed the colons. Must be “inspired.” I did go back and recheck…but couldn’t find any “bleep, bloop.”
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spud Reply:
January 21st, 2010 at 6:39 pm
What bugs me about Amish is that he was legit in the Affiliate Marketing industry before hooking up with the gaggle of gurus. I didn’t know him personally, but enough people I trust (network owners, other affiliate marketers) backed him up that I can’t understand why he’d throw his rep under a bus to associate with that crowd. Probably thinks the “easy money” is worth it or he’s working his own angle and thinks he’ll step away before he gets any of their slime splattered on him.
Oh well.
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PsychoBabble Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
The Reese-Kern-Walker-Silver etc. crowd are the litmus test.
Some people rub shoulders with them, scrape the slime off and never deal with them again.
Others love the smell and dive in head first.
Believe it or not, even the SlobberNet twins were only latent assholes before they hooked up with “The Syndicate.” It was their meeting and being accepted by them that allowed their full genetic potential as lowlife scammers to express itself.
Amish? Well, he’s not looking good right now, is he.
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208-577-6210 Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 am
Amish is hardly new to the IM industry. He’s been getting passed around these guys for a while – CPA ninjas, google goggles (in beta when publicised..and still in beta ages later), hexatrack, magic bullet system..etc
He’s either under their control in some odd way unknown to us, or he’s just plain greedy (and arguably an ‘IM guru’ in his own right)
The way he’s emerged is uncannily similar to the appearance of Eben Pagan. “Here’s a guy who isn’t in IM right now, and makes $20M+ doing something else..now he’ll show you how to do the same!”
If Pagan is anything to go by, I have to second Psychobabble’s sentiment – it most certainly does not look good for Amish.
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# 11 January 2010 at 10:31 pm

Bryson said:
God I love this website. Keep this momentum going!
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# 11 January 2010 at 11:20 pm

SD (author) said:
The Garden Gnome doesn’t have his comments set to moderate ::
http://www.marketingdotcom.com/blog/thanks-tony-robbins-part-2/
… unusual. Poor Mike :: he can’t do anything right.
Will my comment last the full day :: or will it die before noon? We shall see …
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Disgusting Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
gay as hell
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Snotty Wickerspeed Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
That’s funny. So anybody can post any comment they want. Sweet!
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SD Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 1:21 am
Comment deleted :: but I think it may have been up for a full 24hrs. A new Salty Droid Comments on a D-bag Blog Record!
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Bobby Ray Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:46 am
Ironically, he probably found out about that comment on his blog here first! Hilarious.
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_cartman_ Reply:
January 16th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
probably….however…in line with other comments he appears to have his blog scrubbed daily. He has been doing it forever and a day. I never tested it since I never purchased any of his shit (or any one’s for that matter) but different commentators all mention the same thing….
A little excerpt from IM report card about Fleecme’s “free” offer and the negative comment left…
“…..There was even a sample of one of the videos there. I got angry and left a comment on his blog alleging ‘bait and switch’. I was one of MANY people making negative comments on the blog at that point. I actually followed the blog into the evening as the negative comments poured in. I went back to the blog the following day to see what was happening and lo and behold all the negative comments, including mine, had been replaced with glowing reports about the product. Shame on you Mike Filsaime! I immediately unsubscribed from anything with Mike Filsaime’s name on it and I have been warning people about his tactics whenever and wherever I can. Mike Filsaime – Be Careful!”– Overdrive9
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# 12 January 2010 at 5:06 am

filsaimeinsider said:
filsaime has a huge crush on andros
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_cartman_ Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 10:55 am
hahaha…Mike (look at the shiny paint) Filsaime is a gnome…he probably has a crush on anything with a pulse (and maybe without…who am I to limit his choices)!
Look at his magic bullshit video, I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the only pussy hes seen…ummm….can I say pussy?
Just a little advise Mikey (and I have no doubt you are reading here), having a hummer or driving around in a lexus ain’t going to cut it…you’re still a worthless drain on society…all the fancy “packaging” isn’t going to change that.
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Looksie Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
filsaime has an ever bigger crush on eben pagan
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Anonymous Reply:
January 13th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Ya but Pagan has a bigger crush on Kern so where does that leave Filsaime? OOOOHHHH back to the circle jerks.
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# 12 January 2010 at 6:38 am

Quack Attack said:
Yes, but Filsaime is rated as #100 of the Top 100 Most influential marketers of 2008…
& Mr. Fallon is #84.
http://www.invesp.com/2008/top-100-marketers-of-2008-100-to-50.html
UPDATE:
Fallon moved up the ranks in ’09…#30!
http://www.invesp.net/2009/top-100-marketers-of-2009-21-to-50.html
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# 12 January 2010 at 8:48 am

LOLOLOL said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL I haven’t read any comments yet just got done reading this post and I am literally laughing so hard it hurts lol lol lol lol lol I would have LOVED to be a fly on the wall when garden gnome Mike read this post lol lol lol lol Salty Droid you are so damn poetic bother literally and metaphorically lol lol love it!
Btw should we call Carnival and let them know a known sex offender is on the ship? Or the FBI?
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# 12 January 2010 at 12:55 pm

ChrisF said:
Here’s an interesting set of comments posted by Paulie Sabol in Dec. 19, 2008 at the Huffington Post website. The post was about British sex offenders winning a human rights claim.
Here is one of Paulie’s comments (posted under his Huffington ID of QuietNetworker):
“Also, since you bring up violent offenses.
It’s worth pointing out that they should really be VIOLENT.
There are offenses which are defined as violent based on age.
So going back to the examples of the two 11 year old children
playing around, they would be “violent sex offenders”.
Or in the same way, an advanced post-pubescent 11 year old
who gets involved with a teen or young adult would make that
teen or young adult a violent sex offender, even if it was really
a consent crime.
Cheers,
Paulie Sabol”
It’s obvious from his comments that this sick fuck still doesn’t see his statutory rape of an 11-yr-old boy as wrong.
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Disgusting Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Pedophiles and Psychopaths NEVER see the wrong in the shit they do. They refuse to. It’s all about their gratifications. They are stuck at a toddler’s emotional development and cannot go past it. Thus, no matter how many times Sabol is jailed or fined, he will not stop. Same with the rest of these shysters. Capital punishment is the only answer.
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# 12 January 2010 at 1:08 pm

Disgusting said:
Lifetime registered sex offender….that means Paul Sabol “Paulie” prefers to sexually ASSAULT very YOUNG kids under 12. Why is this piece of shit even out of prison??????????????????????????
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# 12 January 2010 at 1:11 pm

filsaimeinsider said:
Filsaime and the adros crush
http://www.socialmediatrafficblueprint.com/re-launch_files/mike%2520%2520I.jpg
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Disgusting Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
wow maria looks a little rugged and mike looks like he’s on drugs
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SD Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that Maria is taller :: and Mike is probably wearing three inch spikes.
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# 12 January 2010 at 1:25 pm

Rafael Marquez said:
Amish sure does “politely decline” and Filsaime just glosses over it like nothing happened. Amazing
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208-577-6210 Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Actually, there might be a chance he’ll follow through on it, with or without Amish. Because they’re filming it! So you can pay $3000 for Amish’s usual re-hashed bullshit, and your bonus is to be part of the ‘studio audience’ for the 9-figure code (eventual retail price $1997 + S&H + $8000 backend + $49 p/m)
And unless they do an extremely messy shoot, it means you probably won’t spend a great deal of time in Mike’s prestigious offices, as he promises here – you’ll be in a room nearby with a stage, 100 other idiots, and about 5-10 gurus relentlessly pitching more crap.
And the fact that the9figurecode.com, the10figurecode.com, and the11figurecode.com (not 12 though…because that would be ridiculous) have all been registered/renewed recently by the gnome would indicate his recent ‘retirement’ was a another typical Filsaime promise: tired, unoriginal, and too good to be true.
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SD Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
I thought that was a joke …
http://www.whois.net/whois/the11figurecode.com
… but no. Well I mean … it IS a joke … but it’s of the “funny cause it’s true” variety.
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208-577-6210 Reply:
January 13th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Math Question:
If Mike owns an 8-figure business, and inflation is 1.84%, how long until he has an 11-figure business? Is it:
(a)24 hours – Just click the big orange button below?
(b)Incalculable without the use of quasi-quantum-metaphysics from the Secret?
(c)124 years?
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# 12 January 2010 at 1:34 pm

James said:
You can look up Paulie Sabol’s stated address in the government sex offender database, and then check it against the property records. Mr. Successful’s home address appears to be that of (I’m guessing, based on the names) his parents. Since at first glance he doesn’t seem to bring a lot to Filsaime’s table, it must be the friendship.
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SD Reply:
January 12th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
… or maybe he’s a good kisser.
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# 12 January 2010 at 2:47 pm

Walter said:
Anybody notice that Mike Filsaime’s phone number is: 1-888-DOT-0-COM
What’s the ZERO stand for in that number?
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# 12 January 2010 at 3:44 pm

Looksie said:
This is the link http://tinyurl.com/ydv4pfd I copied and pasted this it is very eye opening to see that someone has already had this similiar to James Ray’s ways.
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: California
1 posts, read 570 times
Reputation: 10
Hvechesky is on a distinguished road
Default My Strange Business Cult Experience
I’m writing my story in a few relevant forums to let other people know that there are basically business cults masquerading as ‘spiritual’ that are conniving to control you and get your money. Maybe this isn’t shocking to you, but it should be, when you find out how rampant it is and how accepted and respected the people who run these groups are.
I’m a DDS and this happened to me in the dental industry, which I never would have believed if I hadn’t lived through it. I now know this can happen in any industry. After this happened to me, I did a lot of reading and found out it happens a lot in the “caring” professions, where the practitioners are most trusting and willing to jump through hoops to help people. In my case my being Christian probably didn’t help my situation, because I am always willing to see the best in people, no matter what.
I moved to the West Coast in 2001 to be closer to my sister and her husband and their church, and to set up a practice for myself. It was there I got involved with Higher Ground Dentistry. It was an organization involved with some of the larger Christian nondenominational churches in that area, and they focused on dentistry and nutrition with a religious theme.
Their leader, Bill Lee, is very charismatic, as with any cult, and he can be the most charming and spiritually-seeming person you’d ever meet. I knew Lee and the top leaders for a whole year and a half before I ever had a bad thought about them, even after they had manipulated me into paying them ridiculous fees and stressing me out so much I had to seek therapy, and even after some of my closest friends declared bankruptcy because of them.
I myself now owe them around $4,000, after paying them $9,000 (and I got off very lightly). The two lawyers I’ve consulted have told me I don’t have a case, and it’s true I wasn’t as careful as I should have been. This is why I’m writing this now though, so that other people will be careful when dealing with people who will lie to your face and do anything they can to control your life and your money.
Their group initially looks very helpful. They seem very successful from the outside. Bill Lee and his group tell you that you will be very successful if you partner with them in setting up your own practice, or a practice with other Higher Ground members. To be in the group, you have to pay member dues of varying amounts, and either volunteer with them, or ‘intern’ with their higher members.
I truly started out thinking that Lee was very spiritual, and very deep, and very much a man of integrity. Like most good conmen, he was able to really give the feeling across that he cared about you personally, even when he was speaking to many people at once. I had many conversations with Lee about the problems of the world, and how sin basically was a result of people not respecting each other and not taking their relationships with themselves, each other, and God seriously. Despite all of this, when it came down to doing business with him, he was a liar through and through. His words were just that; words, with no integrity whatsoever.
One of the things they tell you at the start is that you’ll be making a lot of money very quickly. To back this up, they have you meet with their people, and you hear their top dentists and nutritionists telling you how much money they make, and how they are seeing 100 new patients a month, and how if you follow their methods you’ll make a killing.
But the money isn’t even the biggest part of it. Because it’s also presented in a really Christian way. One of the things they like to say is that their members and their practices have brought a lot of people to Christ. That was the main part of what sold me. It was a feeling of being a part of a mission, and Lee is such a powerful, inspirational figure (when he’s got his gameface on), that you want to believe it. I did believe it.
I paid $500 to be a part of the group (some people paid as much as $1,500; it depended really on how much money they thought they could get from you), and this got you access to Lee’s people, and got you into his seminars and workshops. You also get to ‘work’ at the offices of other dentists, though in this case it’s basically just unpaid ‘internships’; they’re using the new recruits to do the work of the people who have been in it longer. In a way it was basically like a Ponzi scheme with labor instead of money. Though the money comes later, too.
One of the things I learned after I got involved with the group is that real questions or criticism are not accepted. Anyone who asked questions or tried to pull out of the group were treated like garbage. Heaven forbid you asked for your money back once you decided you had made a huge mistake. Physical intimidation was used in that case. Not direct, but implied by veiled threats about how something really bad might happen to your practice and your office if you didn’t get the support they provided.
Psychological intimidation was used more, though; they were very good at using guilt to their advantage. Because that bond we had to the group was real, and the Higher Ground people didn’t want us to forget “how much we owed them”. Also, Lee is so convincing that many people simply don’t want to disappoint him, even after he’s hurt them directly.
I think a large reason people stay so long is humiliation. They just don’t want to admit to their friends and families, and themselves, that they’ve made a huge mistake. When you put that much effort into something, you want it to mean something. I guess it’s human nature. By the time I realized I was in the middle of basically a cult, I’d already given them close to $9,000 and hundreds of hours of my time. And I got off lightly. As pathetic as my story was, I was one of the smarter ones. But I know that we shouldn’t feel shame; our only mistake is being too trusting; in believing that people are what they say they are. It’s not something to be embarrassed about; it’s something to be celebrated, but that doesn’t mean we can’t learn from our mistakes!
I know many Higher Ground members whose dental practices are failing, and yet they do not have the strength to stand up to Lee. They keep making the ridiculous payments that he demands. He will even encourage failing members to apply for Small Business loans from the government, even though those practices would be successful if they weren’t paying so much to Lee. I know one acquaintance with a family who is paying so much to Lee and his group that they don’t have enough for groceries. Yes, it is that bad.
And they’re paying for nothing; absolutely nothing. Well, almost nothing. Getting website maintenance and some common-sense consulting for $30,000 a year doesn’t add up, but yet these amounts (and even higher) have been charged to people I know. But the psychological power Lee has over them is so large that they are afraid that they will fail completely without his help.
One of my acquaintances in Higher Ground tried to partner with two of Lee’s associates on a book deal. He had come up with the concept and Lee’s people were supposed to handle the distribution and the marketing. Next thing my friend knew, he found that the contract he had signed basically gave over all the content rights to Lee, and that he was a very minor partner. When he tried to argue with Lee and his people, he suddenly found himself completely disrespected, yelled at, and verbally abused. He was told that he was not a ‘team player’, and that he didn’t really care about helping people at all, and that his greed would “cause his downfall.” When my friend respectfully tried to talk to them about this, they used this argument as an excuse to cut him out of the deal completely, which it turned out they were allowed to do from the terms of the agreement.
This is my point; people like Lee are using their status as ‘role models’ and men of God to get around people’s natural defenses. It’s hard enough to read a legal contract when you’re at your most suspicious. But when you’re with a group of people who you regard as morally upstanding, you let your defenses down. When they are people who you really respect and your peer group really respects, you assume that these people are going to do what they say they’re going to do. That’s their one strength; the trust you put in them.
I have been warning people about Lee and his people’s tactics now as best I can. The truth is that I am actually afraid to confront him in more straightforward ways, because the people who surround him at the highest levels I have reason to believe can be dangerous. I don’t have any proof, but I know that his people are obsessed and will try to protect him at any cost. They depend on him completely for a sense of worth and also for a lot of money, and that’s not a combination I want to mess with head on. I’ve seen Lee get angry firsthand when I told him I was leaving, and I know how he treats people who only want to negotiate with him, so understand my hesitance in wanting to come full out with this story.
What I hope most is that the people who have recorded Lee ‘behind the scenes’ will come forward with that audio and video and share it with his new recruits. Really, someone should post it on the internet where everyone can forward it. I’ve heard stories of some of the things he has said about his ‘flock’, and how much disdain he has for the people who strive to impress him. I know it’s probably only a matter of time before one of Lee’s right hand men gets burned by him and wants to spread the truth.
The worst part about Lee and people like him is his pretending to be ‘holy’ and pretending that God actually talks through him. This is the most offensive thing for Christians like myself and for anyone who’s sincere in their religious belief. It is nothing more than false idolatry, and I wish nothing more that people like this will eventually be exposed for what they are.
Read more: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:vQJUoegOzZYJ:www.city-data.com/forum/san-jose/621809-my-strange-business-cult-experience.html+business+cult&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us#ixzz0cRm5czC2
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# 12 January 2010 at 6:19 pm

PsychoBabble said:
To bring this back on track and hopefully stimulate more comments and cruise photos, here’s the topic of the thread:
Mike Filsaime KNOWINGLY used a CONVICTED pedophile and registered sex offender to promote his family friendly marketing cruise.
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208-577-6210 Reply:
January 13th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Shouldn’t that read: “Pedophile disgraced by link to Mike Filsaime”?
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# 13 January 2010 at 10:07 pm

Anonymous said:
Hey all here is the word on Eben Pagan and his event in florida.
supposedly all these bums will be together there and Eben is having some secret meetings in his suite. It is February 18 to 21 at the fontiane blue hotel in miami. From what I heard the SBs that will be there are Frank Kern, Mike Filsaime, Mike Konigs, Jeff Johnson, Jeff Walker, Brad Fallon, Andy Jenkins, Anik Singal, Ryan Diess, John Carlton, and a bunch of others.
Wonder what schemes they will be cooking up.
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R2Me2 Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
That group is known as the Syndicate. Their main goal is to control the internet marketing arena and force those that don’t play ball with them out or into submission.
I wonder if Mikey took his mistress with him on the cruise? She was always on the past ones. When he comes back he’ll be doing a weekly radio show in New York. A recent tweet said “Confirmed – @mikefilsaime will host a Sunday Morning Radio show to 14 million Listeners in Metro NY area. Party 105.3 NY Starting Feb 8th”.
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ken Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Control what? They are a bunch of sleazy pee-ons. Of which by the way we all know now lie about the kind of money they really make. Funny that they call themselves the syndicate. Definition: A loose affiliation of gangsters in control of organized criminal activities.
Only Kern falls into that category. R2Me2 the way you describe it is like they think they are some kind of mafia. Is that what they really think? I have to laugh. What a joke. Now I am starting to feel bad for them in a way they really need psychiatric help.
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ken Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Nice. “Irwin Frances Kern goes to jail” …well almost.
http://saltydroid.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Kern-Sucks.pdf
Here is the convicted felon that these guys hang around with. Belcher, Kern, Pagan and tax cheat filsaime. How appropriate that they all hang in the mafia infested Miami together. Think salty should send in some reconnaissance teams to infiltrate Eben Pagans secret lair and expose their evil ways as manipulative marketers. Ironic that they need each other to even stay in existence.
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# 14 January 2010 at 7:27 pm

ken said:
Oh cute. Check it out. A friend just forwarded an email from Frank Kern to me. You will all get a chuckle out of this one. It was going sooossoooo good that they had to shut it of. What a fucken joke. Notice the people on the list below are not the usual scum bag subjects. Maybe they are smartening up and getting away from the toxic waste. OH and he calls Jeff Johnson a Gangsta. HA HA I guess they do think they are. And there is Mike Filsaime there with John Gangsta reece.
It’s a freakin’ miracle…
Not only did we COLLECT $1,669,421.00 in CASH
…we also put $3,905,091.00 on the books …making
this launch a straight up blockbuster.
…All in just 9 hours.
No surprise, right? You knew all along you were
dealing with a gangster.
So here’s the miracle:
NOTHING BLEW UP!!
The server didn’t crash, everything’s working, and the
customers are stoked!
And therefore…
Amish is going to re-open the Magic Bullet System
for just ONE DAY ON FRIDAY – JANUARY 22 2010.
…Which of course means MORE MONEY FOR YOU.
And on top of that…
EVERYONE who gets at least ONE LEGITIMATE SALE
get’s A BOTTLE OF CRISTAL.
Now LISTEN UP:
We’ve had about one billion three hundred and seventy five million (and five) people
ask us if we will let them into the Magic Bullet System after we closed.
THIS MEANS: These people are ON YOUR LISTS, BEGGING TO BUY THIS
PRODUCT!
All ya gotta do is send an email… You’ll make more money by simply “hitting send”
AND you’ll get money and some Cristal.
Aww hell… We’re feelling nice:
IF YOU GET TWO SALES YOU ALSO GET AN
ELECTRIC SKATEBOARD.
Because really, who doesn’t’ love electric skateboards.
And besides …what are you gonna do after you drink the
Cristal? You can’t just SIT THERE.
You gotta get out and do something dangerous
…like ride a semi-deadly electric skateboard
with a mean ripple buzz.
And who wouldn’t jump at the chance to do that??
Look, you really don’t have to do anything but copy/paste
and hit send.
I’ll send you some email copy to mail your list next week…
Until then go ahead and start thinking about your bonuses!
Talk soon,
Frank
P.S. I forgot! The leaderboard!
Jeff Johnson has WON THE $25,000 IN COLD HARD CASH!
Congrats Jeff, you are a true gangster.
Here’s the top 10 for the launch:
1 Jeff Johnson
2 Gauher Chaudhry
3 Chris Carpenter
4 Marty Rozmanith
5 Mike Filsaime
6 Matthew Trainer
7 Ran Aroussi
8 Jason Katzenback
9 Michael Hill
10 John Reese
Congrats guys!
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Jessie Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
That email made me want to puke.
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208-577-6210 Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Who the hell reads email from John Reese? If a guy with 5 subscribers makes it on their leaderboard…
And most of them ARE the scummy sort, though less talked about. Chris Carpenter’s record with Google Cash Detective is pretty diabolical. And since ‘keyword spying’ is so fashionable, Ran Aroussi decided to jump on the bandwagon with PPC Bully.
The sales video for PPC Bully included Ran and some other guy cloning somebody’s campaign and making a sale within a couple of minutes. Leaving aside the fact that, statistically, one sale means absolutely fuck all, it’s clear from the video that the sale was fraudulent anyway (i.e. they bought it, or one of their staff did.) Either that or he doesn’t know how to install a tracking code…which calls his self-imposed reputation as an awesome PPC advertiser into question.
They made a shitload of cash selling the ‘training videos’ as well (for $49 per month for the ‘VIP’ and an extra $997 for the ‘advanced’) – prepare to be snowed under a volley of ‘em’ ‘um ‘ah’, etc, as it becomes clear Ran only learned the language last week, AND doesn’t know shit about keyword research. Nothing against people taking their time to learn English, but DO NOT release a $1000+ *audio* product if you’re not capable of communicating easily in a language.
So no need to fear, Frank’s still rolling around with the same types; they just have new names.
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# 14 January 2010 at 10:15 pm
» Modeling for Mike said:
[...] Vicious Garden Gnome Mike Filsaime.  First he had his big {/little} Internet Marketing Cruise :: For Pedophiles .. By Pedophiles :: which went over like pancakes dipped in shit.  In the rumors I’m starting … the [...]
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# 21 January 2010 at 4:00 am

SirScamalot said:
Another one jumps into the trough. John Carlton is now promoting Filsaime’s caca.
Check out the mail below.
I love the line “I’m sure you’ll find Mike’s business insights and strategies interesting…”
#######
Hi,
Carlton’s biz partner Stan, here.
I should’ve let you know about this days ago.
Mike Filsaime is giving you his $1297 home study course, “The
Figure Code”, for free.
It’s explained on this page,
http://www.MarketingRebel.com/recommends/7-figure-code.html
Since I’m sending you this late, by the time you read this,
the offer might be live.
If you catch the video, I’m sure you’ll find Mike’s business insights
and strategies interesting…
…but, really, what you should care about is that on 15 December
you’ll be able to get your hands on a comprehensive training
program for nothing. Until recently, this program sold for $1,297.
Pretty cool.
Just jump over here to learn Mike’s new business model -
http://www.MarketingRebel.com/recommends/7-figure-code.html
Or you can skip the video and just get on the notification list so
you won’t forget to grab your copy of “The 7 Figure Code” when
Mike makes it available.
This offer will not be on the table more than a few days.
Cheers,
Stan Dahl
Carlton’s Biz Partner
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Tex Reply:
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Marketing Rubble John Carlton and Gnome Mike Filsaime. What a perfect partnership.
Quote:
“This offer will not be on the table more than a few days.”
Where will it be then? Hopefully, back in the toilet where it originated.
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Leroy Reply:
January 24th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Here’s a lovely pic of Mike Filsaime and John Carlton hangin’ together in the desert (a favorite place for internet marketers to hang out):
http://snipurl.com/u6gsr
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# 23 January 2010 at 3:54 pm

Links said:
http://www.ppc.bz/industry-news/affiliate-jump-the-scam-of-the-century
http://strategicwebsiteprofits.com/mike-filsaime-is-a-cheat-and-a-scam-marketing-dot-com-review/
http://mikefilsaime.info/the-ripoff/
http://mikefilsaimesucks.com/opinions/stay-away-from-mike-filsaimes-scam/
http://hubpages.com/hub/Mike-Filsaime-Scam—Refunded-Through-BBB
http://www.blogtext.org/andy/article/6040.html?Who+The+Hell+is+Mike+Filsaime%3F
http://philmir.com/wordpress/?p=108
http://sixfigureclicks.com/affiliate-marketing/pay-dot-com-scam/
http://www.articlesbase.com/internet-marketing-articles/mike-filsaime-is-hard-up-for-im-partners-now-holding-open-interviews-for-all-americans-must-have-iq-of-at-least-65-1600961.html
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Celebrities/MIKE-FILSAIME-7FIGUR/mike-filsaime-7figure-code-5d2d5.htm
http://www.clintlenard.com/2006/11/26/mike-filsaime-hes-letting-thieves-rip-off-your-identity/
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?p=568910#post568910
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# 23 January 2010 at 9:59 pm

LMAO said:
What I liked about Mike Filsaime’s affiliate code was that he would pay you $25 for everyone who bought a copy of this. Now it cost $15.99 so do the maths. If everyone reading this site bought a copy and opted out of the upsells Filsaime would be down $9.01 per sale. Now if more than 50 people bought the bonus would go up to $30 so you could do more damage! So I should make my affiliate link live on here and refund your postage, and split the profit. There again I would be too fearful of attracting saltys ire to give you any of my links!
Would be an amusing hit on his bottom line…
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Name Not Important Reply:
January 27th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Problem with your plan is that you can’t cancel recurring before getting slammed with charges, repeatedly. Refunds difficult or next to impossible.
So, if you promote this in hopes of screwing Filsaime, you would only succeed in handing him wads of ill gotten cash
Bad idea
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Zonks Reply:
January 27th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
And on top of what NNI mentioned, what if the affiliate tracking somehow, accidentally, didn’t get recorded by Filsaime. You know, that stuff can accidentally happen.
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LMAO Reply:
January 27th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
Actually you can. You simply untick the box for the offers….
With regards to affiliate tracking that is a different matter however whatever Filsaimes faults he doesnt have a reputation unlike stomper net for stealing commissions.
Furthermore you could ask people buying to take a screenshot of their purchase with your affiliate id on the screen before they purchase.
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# 27 January 2010 at 6:43 am

Kevin said:
Speaking of Mike Filsaime’s flamboyant old cruise organizer and convicted sex offender Paulie Sabol, Mike Koenigs apparently also can’t resist tapping him to promote his traffic geeser ‘service’:
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpjT5IXAjyA
Maybe being a convicted sex offender is some sort of a “plus” in internet marketing.
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SD Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:39 pm
That picture … with the hair … oh god.
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Big Chuck Reply:
February 3rd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
No shit! That’s the picture he decided to go with?
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# 2 February 2010 at 11:31 pm
» Inside Dot Con Secrets said:
[...] post exposed Brunson as the owner of a high pressure sales floor that pedophile loving Garden Gnome Mike Filsaime was using to try and fleece people for their maximum remaining credit card balance.  Really [...]
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# 23 February 2010 at 1:27 am
Man we need to do a BHW cruise or something - Black Hat Forum Black Hat SEO said:
[...] Re: Man we need to do a BHW cruise or something lol BTW that reminds me of this http://saltydroid.info/vacationing-with-mike-filsaime/ [...]
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# 10 June 2010 at 3:59 pm
Man we need to do a BHW cruise or something - Page 2 - Black Hat Forum Black Hat SEO said:
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# 16 June 2010 at 10:31 am

not a name said:
I tried to read this, but did not actually understand anything.
I know you think your writing style is whiz-bang whacky, but it is just confusing.
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SD Reply:
July 30th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
@not a name ::
I’m sorry you were confused. I’ll break it down for you …
Pedophiles = bad.
Knowingly allowing a pedophile to organize a “family cruise” = bad.
I hope that helped.
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wise up Reply:
July 31st, 2010 at 5:30 am
@not a name, enablers & promoters of pedophiles = the same as pedophiles in my book. Any decent human being would distance themselves as far as possible from having any business dealings with a known pedophile. The fact that Mike Filsaime and all these other sleeze balls still do business with a child molester says a lot. There are no boundaries as to how far they will go for a buck. “Birds of a feather flock together”
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# 4 July 2010 at 6:26 pm
» The Syndicated Comments said:
[...] make me call Pauli Sabol, (smiles) I’ll put your kids on a cruise with that pedophile I need to buy more drugs and hair plugs So, I’m gonna get my money by connin’ you [...]
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# 16 August 2010 at 6:06 am
» Shotguns and Fancy Pants said:
[...] me and wants me dead. He thinks I’m a lair out to smear the “good guys” {like Paulie Sabol … right Robert?}. He won’t see the group unicorn made into a keychain on his fucking [...]
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# 24 August 2010 at 10:11 pm

Task Master Droid said:
Droid dude, seriously.
First, you missed this :: Sabol marching for his gay lover immigrant :: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/01/20100501national-immigration-protests.html
Second, what about the Filslime / Farrel marriage? What about these bullshit videos where Filshame claims you could make $14 per day add up to $450K per year?
Proudly homophobic.
What the hell is wrong with that?
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IC 35-42-4-3 Reply:
August 30th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
@Task Master Droid,
If they do legalize gay marriage in Indiana, will Paulie and his Mexican boy toy have their bridal registry at Toys R Us?
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Zonkers Reply:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
From that link:
“It affects everyone,” said Paulie Sabol, 38, who traveled from Indiana to march in Chicago. His partner is a Mexican immigrant who is a legal resident but doesn’t have U.S. citizenship. “I can’t sponsor him because same sex marriage isn’t recognized in Indiana(*).”
[(*) Neither is pedophilia, of which Paulie Sabol was convicted and for which he now appears on the sex offenders registry.]
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disgusted Reply:
August 30th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
I don’t care about the gay part, but what he did to kids is vile and plain evil.
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Ugh Reply:
August 30th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Maybe Paulie Sabol should join the Warrior Forum. He’s probably got at least a few dozen successful WSO’s in him, just waiting to get out.
This could be the first WSO…
“How to get a free *.gov link:”
http://www.in.gov/apps/indcorrection/ofs/ofs?lname=sabol&fname=&search1.x=34&search1.y=9
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Anonymous Reply:
August 30th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
@Ugh, Thanks for posting that link on the convicted child molester and pedophile by the name of Paulie Sabol. http://www.in.gov/apps/indcorrection/ofs/ofs?lname=sabol&fname=&search1.x=34&search1.y=9
Have a question; Since he’s a convicted pedophile, shouldn’t there be a law or is there a law that does not allow registered sex offenders to be near any children? Paul Sabol was allowed to be near children on the cruise Mike Filsaime put on. Should he not be reported?
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Hmmm Reply:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
“But What About The Kids, Can They Come Too?”
“YES, the whole family is invited…minimum passenger age of 4 months”
Like Mike Filsaime says:
“priceless cameraderie of like-minded people in a very relaxed environment.”
That’s right…LIKE MINDED…and don’t forget, the minimum passenger age is…only 4 months!
http://www.marketerscruise.com
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Twivia Reply:
August 30th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Paulie Sabol has a full size “Dance Dance Revolution” machine in his house. Imagine that.
Plus, he “has coached many of the top internet marketers and has often been called the “Super Star Maker.”
You read that right. “Super Star Maker.”
From the interview, here:
http://successfool.com/paulie-sabol-interview-the-journey-and-process-of-success/
Then there’s…
http://www.myspace.com/internship
http://cruiseplaylearn.com
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bobtheteacher/2008/12/22/paulie-sabol-internet-marketing-profit-plans
Paulie’s recent man-lust comment (the 2nd one):
http://dance.community.fox.com/go/thread/view/101894/25330609/?pg=last
(Isn’t he committed to his Mexican non-resident boyfriend?)
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# 30 August 2010 at 2:46 pm

Rockin You said:
Enjoy…
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# 30 August 2010 at 9:26 pm

Yucky Ducky said:
Meet Omar Martin.
“Omar and Mike (Filsaime) currently run an office together in Orlando Florida”
That is, when Omar isn’t busy flitting about on the Warrior Forum and posting essays complaining about a lawyer there exposing the darker side of internet marketing (with Omar getting the greenlight from WF “mooderator” Paul Myers to do so).
Here is Omar’s bio. You’re sure to be impressed, assuming you’re his mother:
http://omar-martin.com/about/
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Yucky Ducky Reply:
September 1st, 2010 at 2:32 am
Omar Martin pimpin’ for Mike Filsaime’s AffiliateDotCom:
httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdUJo1YURdk
Poll: Does Omar resemble Howdy Doody? Pick one: __Yes (or) _Yes
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awww Reply:
September 2nd, 2010 at 8:57 am
@Yucky Ducky, he sure is a sweet lil sugar pie isn’t he? Looks like he’s able to pick up radio signals from outter space with those satellite dishes on the side of his cranium.
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# 1 September 2010 at 2:22 am

Raief said:
I tried to comment on Mike Filsaime on one of the other posts but it was removed. At least it never was posted.
I respect the man as a marketer and salesman but I do not like his tactics or his methods.
He is successful, yes, but he never delivers more than what is paid for. It is usually less or just the right amount.
For someone to deserve respect as a human and marketer Filsaime falls short. He under-delivers.
The latest release that he conjured with Chris Farrell is evidence of this.
50 videos on how to become an Internet Marketer, for the newbie and the advanced.
There is nothing on these videos that is earth shattering or worth more than $97.00, in total. Everything on these videos is available online for free, with some searching.
This series of videos is selling for $1997.00, or more, depending upon the payment option that is chosen.
Affiliatedotcom is a total farce and nearly a scam product, because of the price tag.
You can read a review of the latest product on Raief.
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