RadioActive SaltyDroid

... robots on long wavelengths

Utah is a pretty great state … if you’re a fucking scammer.

You should move there … if you’re a fucking scammer.

You won’t even have to join the local religion :: which is approximately as old as Sears … although think of the networking opportunities you’d miss. Some of scamworld’s shrewdest regular offenders are regular attenders of the Latter-day Saint sunday seminar series. While Texas scammers might be teaching you to invest all your money in silver :: Utah scammers know that the key is burying the silver in the ground … it’s the little details that count.

But Droid :: says you … along with being a scamming fuckhead … I’m also an ethnic minority … should I still move to Utah?

No :: you shouldn’t … stupid question. We’re talking about Utah here … minorities is why father keeps guns in the bunker.

I wanted John Swallow to lose the Republican primary to some other Republican nut job who agreed with him that the Utah Attorney General’s top priority should be bitching about “Obamacare”. It was hard to be too passionate about it :: good thing … because The Devil’s Advocate John Swallow beat the other guy {whose name I will now forget forever} by a 7 – 3 margin.

Only the Republican primary matters in Utah :: because it’s a festering freak hole of homogeneity … so the Democrat {whose name I will now refuse to learn} will prolly lose by an even greater margin in November.

Great Job America!

Don’t worry though … the feds will save us.

Special Agent Jim Malpede :: long time head of the FBI’s Utah white-collar crime division … recently told Tom Harvey at The Salt Lake Tribune

“Kind of anecdotally, having seen the program from my time here but also from a national perspective, on a per-capita basis we’ve got to far exceed anywhere else in the country in terms of the volume and dollar losses,” Malpede said in a recent interview. “Cases that we work have losses that exceed many of the cases we’re see in many of the large metropolitan areas.”

Utah :: for people who like the corruption of Sicily … but hate good cannolis.

Malpede estimated there was about $2 billion worth of fraud either in courts or under investigation by federal, state and local agencies. The amount of fraud is so great that the FBI in Utah largely concentrates only on cases involving investments of $10 million or more.

“Whereas in many offices they’ll work cases that are $1 million or $2 million, for us to work on something under $10 million there has to be something that grabs our attention, some reason for us to get engaged in the case, just because we have so many cases that are above $30, $40, $50 million.”

Okay :: so granted I’m just a fake robot and not John Forbes Nash or anything … but maybe staff the Utah office with more agents to bring down that ludicrous $9 million differential?

Fucking depressing right? Go ahead and steal $9.9 million :: even if it’s from 10,000 people already down on their luck … the FBI can’t be bothered about it. A white-collar crime epidemic rages through our society threatening to destroy everything :: an we’ve got like ten enforcers … total … and half of them just sit around jacking it.

Jason went on Utah radio to talk shit about Utah right before the election :: I wasn’t going to mention it because I’m getting sick of him already … but RadioActive SaltyDroid is too kickass a post title to pass up. Before the show started the producer said :: “welcome home” … and Jason smirked widely and with menace.

Have I noticed the constant 502 errors?

Yes.

What is causing them?

I don’t know … prolly injustice.

So that clears that up … I’m glad we had this little talk.

>> bleep bloop

44 thoughts on “RadioActive SaltyDroid”

  1. Hehehehe…my worlds collide. I know the producer of RadioActive (Troy Williams). Great guy. So glad his show/radio station did an interview with you; just wish it would get some TRACTION in the pretty, great state. *sigh* I guess, in addition to saying that there’s more kookery in Utah per square inhabited mile than anywhere else, I should add that there’s more scamming per inhabited square mile than anywhere else. (Inhabited, because most of Utah is not, except by bugs, bears and other critters uninterested in scams or kookery.)

  2. Ugh. This whole Utah scene is so depressing. It’s the one area where I get this real sense of utter helplessness. Granted, it does seem that the syndicate style IM scammers never stop and there is always someone new to step up when one of those d-bags falls. But I kind of accepted it the same way I know the lawn will always need to be mowed. It will keep growing but we can just make sure there is always someone to fight back and call them out for what they are (although now that I think about it, that’s kind of a depressing though too).

    But man, the huge, horrid, cancerous corruption in Utah just makes me feel so freaking powerless to do anything. I actually had to stop reading this site for a while after the post about that corrupt outgoing AG assisting an abuser in intimidating his wife and children in contravention of a freaking protective order….

    I am trying to cheer myself up by imagining being able to orchestrate a “Shawshank Redemption – funding for the library” type campaign on a massive scale. Something where a huge number of people just keep writing in to Shurtleff, Swallow, & company: “I know what you’ve done. You are corrupt. There is evidence that you have: [list their errors]. Every day for years. I just dream of huge dump trucks pulling up to their houses and dropping of piles and piles of these letters.

    And for pete’s sake! I just cannot fathom the response of the FBI: well, ya see, there’s just soooooooo much and it’s gotten sooooooo bad that we really just ignore a huge portion of it now cuz, well, resources. Doesn’t common sense dictate a more: “holy shit! look how much freaking crime and fraud is going on here….we really need to get on this and stamp it down!”

    Also, I can’t remember the name of the documentary right now. I saw it on netflix within the last year (I’ll search for it), but Morman Church (i.e., those in charge – not necessarily the little guy) down in Utah is apparently up to some serious bad behavior. The documentary investigated the Morman Churches activities in forcing(?)/pressuring(?) the Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts to refuse gay members & was the major driving force (they teamed up with a Christian Church) of prop 8 in California. Which, if true and provable, is incredibly, well, incredible!…a religious institution….based in Utah….successfully pushing a political agenda that effected the rights of a huge number of people in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FREAKING STATE!

    Where did we originally get Utah from? Can we please give it back now? Maybe the original people who had it will take better care of it. {going to watch videos of tiny cute animals on youTube until the dark cloud passes}

    1. @What the what, The Utah connection gets more ominous. Just noticed an item in Huffington Post listing top contributors to Romney PACs…right there near the top, donating one MILLION each, are two of the central leaders of — drum roll — NUSKIN.


  3. but maybe staff the Utah office with more agents to bring down that ludicrous $9 million differential?

    Maybe they’re underfunded? Maybe accidentally on purpose? The problem with my random, wild speculation is that I don’t know anything. I.e. I don’t know where their funding comes from so I don’t know if it would even be possible for the corrupt Utah Powers That Be to screw them in that way. They’re feds so that implies Federal funding. But then why don’t they just ask their higher ups for more staff?

    —————-
    From the radio broadcast
    Robert Nelson:

    “There’s a Usana Amphitheater. I go and see concerts out there.”

    “NuSkin has their name on stuff.”

    The Usana Scamphitheatre (at least according to google image search)
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/7412504@N02/7597800666/in/photostream

    http://shop.usana.com/shop/cart/Landing

    @Utah,
    Thanks, Utah. Thanks for flooding the U.S., Australia, and other places with a whole f*ck-ton of bullsh*t frauducts and scamming (I’m guessing) hundreds of thousands of people out of (I’m not guessing) millions and millions of dollars.

    Forgive me for getting a tad preachy but you, Utah, really need to “get right with God”.

    ————-

    And Robert… that’s saltydroid-dot-info. oh well. Thanks for having Jason Jones and Eric Peterson on. It was cool.


    Furry cows moo and decompress.

    502 Bad Gateway

  4. Welp… Looks like rains a comin’… Better batton down the hatches… Gotta keep our ten year supply of noni juice safe… Never know when the flood of customers is gonna come, yup… Mah upline told me it’d be comin… I’m 3 feet from gold I tellzya!

  5. Another unholy alliance in the MLM world: Nutritional and health supplement companies Livinity (of Kansas) and Youngevity (New York) have “joined forces.”

    http://www.thestreet.com/story/11618548/1/youngevity174-forms-marketing-alliance-with-livinity8482-direct-seller-of-health-and-wellness-products.html

    Livinity was founded in 1996 by Barb and Dave Pitcock. Barb was also with Kevin Trudeau Marketing back in 1996 and was pals with KT for many years, though the Pitcocks have apparently had a falling-out with him recently over his scammy Global Information Network (GIN).

    But there IS a Utah connection. Youngevity was co-founded by that great champion of collodial minerals and chelation, Joel Wallach. Wallach has a definite Utah connection, according to this 1998 Quackwatch article:
    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/colloidalminerals.html

    Flash forward to now: Here are two spokesperps for Youngevity gushing about the exciting developments. (Notice how that Schulz guy pronounces Livinity “Lividity” towards the beginning.)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlV658r6W5w&feature=youtu.be

    It never ends.

    1. @Cosmic Connie ::

      Lividity is kinda how I feel watching it :: I’ll betcha Schulz doesn’t know what it means anyways … he’s too busy trying to hang on to his hair.

      1. @SD, And what’s even more disgusting about the whole thing is that former GINsiders and pitchmen seem to be working overtime to herd as many ex and soon to be ex GIN members and employees into the scheme as they can manage. But as you and others have noted before, that’s part of the pattern, and SOP for the big sick machine.

    2. @Cosmic Connie, what a powerful video the new YoungivetyLivi(di)ty incest has produced. And it is. Everyone being happy and positive and lovebombing eachother. The American dream realised – or a variant. Utah MLM pros ripping off the rest of the US, and the rest of the planet. No wonder they are looking so happy. They really are getting rich – or just a bit. And ‘they’ is that happy few at the very pinacle of the pyramid. Brilliant videos, smart ass production, merely adds to the hpynotic effect… Who would think these charismatic smiley people were such charlatans… How can anyone who is so smiley and cheerful be doing anything so wrong? Thank God for SD – even if it swears a bit. A robot that has been programmed to swear for good reason can’t help it.

    3. @Cosmic Connie, INDEED! I especially liked these two:

      Raymond Meyers-Kiernan, “I am excited without even knowing anything.” …..and….

      Dana Rausch who “…would follow them to the ends of the earth because we know they have our best interest at heart so we can make more money and have incredible lives….. and we are so excited about this new compensation plan which we don’t understand at all yet, but we are really, really excited.’

      This is heartbreaking. When I worked for Stephen Pierce (http://successsculpting.com/) I saw this all the time. We called it “drinking the kool-aid” because the students didn’t know the truth of how little chance they really had, but they were all bought in “…without even knowing anything…”

      Nuff said.

  6. Hey! Know what’s even worse than Utah? Chicago! While some preachy Chicagoans live in gated ivory towers high above the dusky hoards, most of the city is a poorly-run concentration camp. Unlike the folks in Utah, the Chicagoans are begging the feds to come in and crack their whips. What a disaster that city is…

    1. @Orenthal,

      OH HEY U KNOW WHATS WORSE THAN CHICAGO? BAD AXE MICHIGAN!! WORST CITY EVER OMG THERES NOTHING TO DO THERE AT ALL OTHER THAN THE HATCHET FESTIVAL AND THE HATCHET FESTIVAL IS LIKE SUUUUUPER LAME. BAD AXE SUX!!

      1. @SD, OMG. It’s — the Fred Phelps tribe. Wow. Would love to see your expose of that idiot cult clan. Of course…that photo’s probably going to do it.

        I think your use of the photo as a description is pretty apt, though.

        1. @Jack, Poor Fred. Stuck there in Kansas. If he was in Utah he’d have “missionaries” on the phones selling ark kits and training ark building trainers.

          1. @Head Honcho, Well, as you probably know, we can never underestimate Kansas as a breeding ground for crazy, the kind of crazy that goes viral. And I say this with sadness, having roots and relatives in the Sunflower State. (But my people are good, peace-loving Mennonites (the modern variety, not the horse-and-buggy kind) and definitely not rabid haters and scammers.)

            1. @Cosmic Connie,

              Regarding Kansas crazy..
              There’s always the Flying Spaghetti Monster. IIRC it was actually thought up by someone in Las Vegas or something. But it was inspired by a Kansas school board’s insistence on the “equal time” and Intelligent Design B.S.

      2. @SD,
        Ah shucks salty d, the little feller ain’t meanin no harm, just had a brush IM an he ain’t never been teh same.

        Unicorns’ll do that to ya.

        Give ya a bad case of the Lanny’s (talkin bout stuffs they shouldn’t to people who don’t care)

    1. @Yup… ::

      OMG that’s new :: and they say “star of The Secret” as though nothing had happened … like the dead bodies for instance.

      Fucking disgusting.

      And according that chart in Scamworld about pay-to-play PR …

      http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/10/2984893/scamworld-get-rich-quick-schemes-mutate-into-an-online-monster

      … you can make that shit happen for $3000ish. Maybe the price goes up after people start dying though … but prolly not.

      Bite me TV … u plague.

      1. @SD, Whelp… Now see we got us a problem here, Mr. Droid…

        Your little operation here does anything to interrupt the regularly scheduled programming of my Law an Order soap operas… I swear I’ll cut yer metal hide!

        Besides… If yer Sayin that there law of attraction thatvDR! Vitale is Sayin is tru ain’t tru… How do you explain all this money he’s making!

        Checkmate, Droid!

        1. @Yup…, …uh…like…maybe by selling sheeple his ideas? That doesn’t make the ideas work. Only selling them. They could. But the ideas are not how he made all his money. Unless you also sell his ideas or stuff like it…you won’t get any moneze either and you’d have to sell them under the pretense that the ideas themselves will help you make money, like he does.

          My head is spinning. I’d hate to have to ‘splain that very often.

          1. @Head Honcho, Well Mr. Fancy Pants McGee ‘head honcho’, that sounds like some slick lawyur talk… But if I gotcher drift – ur Sayin what mister DOCTOR Vitale sells I a bunch of horse-wallop dressed up like a California prom date… I dare say thems fightin’ words!

            I just found out this feller, but if he’s on CBS… Then that’s proof enough fer me!

            I just feel sorry for all them sheeple out there who trust them scammy types so blindly… But like pappy sayd… A sukers born every in every litter.

            Glad I ain’t one of them… I’m bound fer riches! I can feel in my bones!

    2. @Yup and@SD, when that LA CBS piece was first published a few weeks ago, I immediately sent a critical comment to the site — chiding them for publishing such fluff in the guise of news and helpfully providing a link to the Verge piece– but oddly enough, my comment was not published. Burned By Fire helpfully published it on the Mr Fire’s Pyre blog, though. Perhaps the Law of Attraction will guide those who need it to the comment.

      Mr. Fire must be getting desperate to pay the big bucks for such blatant fake-news exposure for his “freee” book, which is little more than an upsell for his Prosper boondoggle, Miracles Coaching.

  7. An open question: Is there a connection between Utah…fraud as a socially normative activity…and the culture of LDS (not necessarily the church specifically)?

    I would argue the prevalence of fraud in Utah requires an explanation beyond simply the pro-business atmosphere and the laxity of regulation & enforcement by state officials.

    My own experience watching my parents’ involvement in repeatedly buying into these schemes and products would indicate there’s a connection between the ability to believe in believe in crazy things and the capacity to believe in the authenticity and efficacy of these MLM-get-rich-quick-work-at-home schemes.

    My personal experience (albeit limited in scope) was that of growing up in a religious cult (not LDS…but WWCG, a full-on end-time apocalyptic christian cult) and watching everyone in the church falling repeatedly for these sorts of schemes.

    It seemed as though the ability to hold passionately to one set of crazy beliefs (the cult teachings) opened you up to being susceptible to believing in damn near anything…including the wild claims of the next MLM or work-at-home fraud that comes your way.

    When the filter is gone…it’s gone from everything…

    So my initial question is perhaps only a reflection of my upbringing…but perhaps points to the possibility of a deeper flaw in many people’s cognitive functioning.

    After all…like in any Predator-Prey Model…there can only be an endless supply of fraudsters if there’s also an endless supply of victims ready to be preyed upon.

    1. @Case,

      You’re talking about a lack of critical thinking–critical thinking is the first thing that a True Believer in anything has to discard.
      It used to be taught in schools but the pro-business climate(where profit and the cut-throat competition that it fosters trumps everything else)has significantly dumbed down the original purpose of education.

      Here’s how it happened:

      http://archive.org/details/AdaCurtisCenturyoftheSelf_0

      His other docs are worth watching too.

    2. @Case ::

      Well :: there’s the affinity fraud problem …

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_fraud

      … which works by using the beliefs and closeness of the group against the members of that same group. Kinda like what the LGATers do … but the group is pre-formed. Mormons are one of the most “us vs. them” type religious groups :: and love of money is built into their principles in a quintessentially American fashion. They are ripe for fraud … a great training ground for young criminals.

      Then you’ve got whole missionary training thing … with most young males learning a highly evolved form of sales/persuasion.

      You have the massive influence of the money held closely :: and secretly … by the church itself.

      The political corruption … aided by these other factors.

      And then I think there is something to your point. Believe too hard in one thing :: expecially crazy things like seer stones and golden plates … and it’s bound to change how your brain functions. This study is certainly not conclusive of anything :: but it is interesting …

      http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2011-05-25-brain24_ST_N.htm

      1. @SD, Been listening to some of the new age wackos in the “awakening to abundance” series which CosmicConnie can tell you all about if she wants to bother – and I can’t believe that the host, Daniel Gutierrez doesn’t know that he’s a fraud swindling the poor suckers who believe in the bullshit spewed by his “guests”. His rather mundane fraud just charges a measly $97 which is cheap at the price considering how much the film-flam men and women usually try to suck out of their victims. Still, if your readers have a moment to point and laugh at the rather cheap-ass frauds participating in http://www.awakeningtoabundance.com/callcalendar725.html it would help shrink the entrance to Scamworld.

    3. @Case,

      “I would argue the prevalence of fraud in Utah requires an explanation beyond simply the pro-business atmosphere and the laxity of regulation & enforcement by state officials.”

      Yeh, it makes sense…and also somebody demanded to tell me about that the prevalence/expansion of fraud/corruption in Utah connects with the prevalence of fraud in Vegas. I can’t find the discussion about it here on SD, but probably somewhere it’s mentioned.

      http://www.randomhouse.com/knopf/authors/dentonmorris/ which now is put onto my demanded-me-to-read list.

      Businessweek which I can’t image why they wouldn’t like the book like this…decided to even go ahead and throw this in their review:

      “There are some fresh bits. One interesting chapter details how a small group of bankers–particularly E. Parry Thomas, head of Valley Bank–funneled deposits from the Mormon Church into the huge loans that fueled Las Vegas’ explosive growth in the 1950s. “If a single entity, beyond the Syndicate, financed the first great expansion of modern Las Vegas…it was–wittingly and unwittingly–the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” the authors write.”

  8. Is the 502 thing fixed?

    We’re working on some stuff … so give me some status updates here if it’s still happening for you.

    1. @SD,

      I had a couple 502 errors this morning (about 9:00 CT) but I’ve checked back in twice (after 1:00 CT) and didn’t have any trouble.

    2. @SD,

      I was 502’d all of yesterday. I’ve been here a lot today and it seems to be fine.

  9. So I watched that NBC “news magazine” thing Rock Center last night. It was all about the Mormons and what great business people they are and how they take care of their own. Oh, there was a little bit about the racism (up till 1978) and the sexism (continuing to the present day), but it was mostly a glowing tribute to Mormonism — and it began with what good bidness people they are, and kind of carried that theme through. Early on they glommed onto how the tenets of Mormonism naturally give rise to extraordinary success in business.

    And they made Mitt Romney look like a saint and a paragon of altruism, magickal underwear and all.

    But… but… not one word about Utah being a rotting vortex of fraud. I was a little disappointed but not all that surprised.

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogstv/54758500-63/church-center-mormons-rock.html.csp

    1. @Cosmic Connie,

      {shhh} It isn’t very popular-ish to say unhappy things like that.

      Watch out. Or else they’ll put you in a Hitler Downfall meme or something.

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