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Ryan Healy said:
Unfortunately, the U.S. brand of free speech comes with a caveat…
“Free speech” is free so long as you don’t hurt a person or company’s ability to make money.
Doesn’t matter if criminal behavior is involved; ruin somebody’s ability to get more monies and you’ve crossed the line, Mister!
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Jack Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 3:04 am
@Ryan Healy, Like this one:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/342912-magic-bullet-creator-amish-shah-sued-microsoft.html (GONE!)
vs.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/0112211msftcybersq.pdf
Because probably internet marketers don’t need to understand some marketing ways that could mabye get them in trouble so why keep the information in a marketing forum?,?
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SD Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
@Jack ::
I’ll bet it’s fun to be sued by Microsoft :: especially when they are trying to prove a novel claim and so have incentive to take it all the way and establish precedent.
Magic Bullet indeed!
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Ryan Healy Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
@Jack, Wow, I didn’t know Microsoft was suing Amish Shah. I like this part from the PDF linked above:
“Plaintiff’s claim for contributory liability in the context of cybersquatting focuses on Defendants allegedly providing instructions and their alleged sales of a method known as the “Magic Bullet System,” which is meant to teach buyers how to use Microsoft marks in order to sell the emoticon-related software. In essence, the contributory cybersquatting claim alleges that Defendants induced others to use domain names incorporating Microsoft marks. Defendants did not simply provide a marketplace where a trade in domain names may take place, as was the case in Ford. Rather, Defendants allegedly developed and marketed a method, the sole purpose of which was to allow purchasers to profit from the illicit use of Microsoft marks. Unlike the defendant in Ford, the Defendants in the case at hand either knew or should have known that the purchasers of the “Magic Bullet System” could not have had a legitimate reason for purchasing the method. Therefore, it is likely that Plaintiff has made a sufficient showing of Defendants’ bad faith under the heightened standard employed by the Ford court.”
Did you catch that?
“the purchasers of the “Magic Bullet System” could not have had a legitimate reason for purchasing the method.”
I bet a lot of people bought the Magic Bullet System. I wonder if they’ll have recourse if Microsoft wins the lawsuit…
Ryan
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# 5 March 2011 at 5:54 pm

the voice of reason said:
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Ha, you’re one to talk about free speech and respecting the comments of others, salty super duper ultra lib. I’ve been bitch slapping the taste out of your mouth (usually jizz) for over a year, whenever you step out of line and post incoherant shit rants. And you, like a pussy little “no mas, no mas” turd have resorted to outright uh…what do you call it, sport…oh, yes…CENSORING disent by deleting comments.
Who fucking does that,shit stain? Seriously, sport, you are in rarified air in that regard.
So cry a fucking river over your little slap down for saying stuff people don’t agree with all you want you comical loser–you look like a fool, since you’re one of the few people I know who actually micromanage their comments and delete posts that don’t jive with your fucked up–and usually WRONG–lame ass opinions.
“Quick…where’s the delete button before one of my minion followers reads this!!”
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what?? Reply:
March 5th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
@the voice of reason,
You should seriously think about changing your name. I thought of a few options:
voice of self-delusion
voice of a clown
voice of a wannabe
voice of ridiculous ramblings
You can also look in a thesaurus for other variations. Can’t wait to see which one you end up choosing!
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Dave Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Ah, my old idiot pal VOR. Still hanging out under rocks? Try to follow along, because this is s difficult concept:
Robot Blog + idiot commenter = commenter having said idiotic ramblings deleted
Robot Commenter on not private blog + critical comment banning account altogether.
Try leaving dissenting comments on any of your hero’s (i.e., Sin-dick-ate) blogs, and they never even see the light of day. At least the robot grants you one idiotic comment per post, which is more than he is obliged to do.
Once more, because I know you are slow – dissent or criticism is not the same as idiotic, ad hominem rants.
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Hippo Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 10:44 am
@the voice of reason,
I’m afraid you are the Voice of Confusion.
As far as I know, Mr. Salty has only deleted a couple of people’s posts, yours and LeeKuan’s–and that was after both of you got quite belligerent.
Try thinking things out, maybe making a rough draft, then state your point in an intelligible and non-combative manner.
Your current “drunk dialing” manner of posting is not worth responding to.
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Lucy Montrose Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 11:29 am
@the voice of reason,
You weren’t deleted. Salty doesn’t delete people. He just hides them behind an easily clickable link if they get sufficiently downrated.
Are you telling me that finding and clicking that link is just TOO HARD FOR YOU? Are you that pressed for time that a couple extra seconds is just too much? Can your poor, tired fingers just not take it anymore???
That’s you at 1:05, and especially at 1:30…
Awwwww, poor baby…
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Lucy Montrose Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 11:31 am
@Me,
D’oh, I guess this board doesn’t like YT embed codes. Here’s the link:
And pay close attention to 1:05 and 1:30.
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Dick Allred Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
@the voice of reason,
“WRONG–lame ass opinions”???
People are DEAD! That’s not an opinion, pay attention. Oh, and it looks like your post has not been deleted thereby debunking the point of your stupid rant. HA!
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Ed Dale Scam Reply:
March 7th, 2011 at 8:28 am
@the voice of reason, You’re one of Ed Dale’s cronies aren’t you? I recognize your style and I’m pretty sure I know who you are. As soon as I’ve confirmed by suspicions I’ll be all over you like a cheap suit.
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Chris Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 7:04 am
@Ed Dale Scam, Good on you. Just checked out your blog and I admire what you are doing. I am going to be starting my own blog soon on Utah scams (and other scams I find out about). We need sites like this and yours to really turn up the heat on these despicable fucks.
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Neil Reply:
March 8th, 2011 at 4:55 am
@the voice of reason,
I fuckin LOVE @vor.
Only 1 reference to homosexuality today though. Tsk tsk. Must have fapped too many times today already. \o/
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# 5 March 2011 at 7:54 pm

Chewygum said:
Ha! Who’d have thought that someone would take a bite like the voice of reason.
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# 6 March 2011 at 3:38 am

Lucy Montrose said:
Ahhhh, Jennifer Horton. The guard dog for JAR’s pwecious feewings and force field of HarmonicVibez(tm).
She has orders to nuke you on sight, SD. You are Public Harmony Disruptor Number One, and she’s under strict orders to keep RayWorld free of… well, freedom. If she didn’t, she would very likely have to start looking for a new job. Maybe working for Shurtleff. Unfortunately, that would require moving to Utah and putting up with all the Mormons and Twilight freaks…
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SD Reply:
March 6th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
@Lucy Montrose ::
You think she’s on his payroll … or it’s a labor of love?
The embed code won’t work … but the straight link will embed.
This video is even more apropos of @VOR …
http://saltydroid.info/trolling-for-trolls/
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# 6 March 2011 at 11:41 am

Ed Dale Scam said:
I have several stories that I can share with you about Ed Dale and what happens when someone writes something truthful about the scamming little turd. You wouldn’t believe what he has pulled in the past. That’s why I can’t wait for you to train your droid guns on him.
Today he is begging for another scam mentoring course. Let’s call it Ed Dale mentoring scam. He wants $7500 for his help.
If Ed Dale is so successful why does he need $7500 from as many people as possible? Surely he’ll be making himself rich using his magic skills won’t he? Surely his immediate edge 30 day sales letter crap must be making him rich?
What’s that? Ed Dale ISN’T rich and successful and he only makes money by scamming gullible people out of pots of cash? Someone call the FTC!! Oh wait, he’s not based in America. He’s based in Australia so we can’t touch him. Or can we?
Serious question – how do you report someone for fraud in Australia?
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Chris Reply:
March 10th, 2011 at 6:42 am
@Ed Dale Scam, Hi EDS. I would go to this site: http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/scamContactUs/
and contact them. Maybe the ACCC (Australia Competition and Consumer Commission) may have powers to fine him and punish him. He is probably in breach of the Trade Practices Act (from what I remember from Business Law at Uni LOL), possibly section 52 (misleading and deceptive conduct. I am no lawyer (unfortunately) but if he is partaking in wrongdoing, he should be able to be punished. Australia is not like the US where scam artist assholes there can get away with it, so check it out and press the issue. If David Schirmer can be brought to account, then so can this guy. They are not untouchable here. We are less pro corporate here and scumbags that defraud people are more often than not caught and punished.
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# 7 March 2011 at 3:53 am

Chris said:
I find a big problem is the concept of defamation and libel and how people can use that as a guise to shut people up (it often works). Also I hate nanny state types like lefties (you call them Liberals) as those people don’t believe in the US constitution as drafted by the founding fathers. (They are a huge threat here in Australia with their “vilification laws” and the like) Progressives in the US are doing their level best to reintepret the US Constitution and diminish its potency as it is a threat to their “utopia” and statist vision. If you believe in things like “hate speech” and a right not to be offended then you are not a person who believes in free speech. You can’t have your cake and eat it too, but many people try to claim that they can.
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# 10 March 2011 at 6:30 am

Chris said:
Good take on Facebook SD. You are right that you have to be independent of these megasites like Facebook, Youtube etc as they can shut one down. I hate how they have become too powerful. It also gives other dogooder types and busybodies the ability to get someone fired for something like speaking their minds and having a joke on their wall with their friends. There is no free speech on Facebook. We need to establish our own bastions of freedom and not rely on them.
Also I am not sure I would trust Ms Clinton. It sounds like rhetoric and I’m not sure I believe her commitment to free speech.
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# 10 March 2011 at 7:33 pm

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