Perry Belcher Reunion Show
Perry Belcher could store three fat ladies :: or one Newt Gingrich :: in his neck sacks. But that was a skill of little virtue in his battle with the fake robot :: which began with this March 2009 post. By September 2009 :: Evil Jowls had begun his capitulation in the comments of a post about this fraudulent Facebook ad …
That $56 million number is totally made up :: and it anyway includes mostly money made from Belcher’s decade long health fraud scam … detailed here in detail. The ad is a flagrant violation of Belcher’s probation {like almost everything else he does that doesn’t involve eating burritos}. He admitted as much in the comments …
First: My $56M career sales claim, while factual does indeed include sales from Selmedica, and that’s wrong.
Based on that I have decided to remove all career sales totals from my ads. If I ever decide to ever use career sales numbers in the future any sales I made from Selmedica will be removed from that total. Point taken.
Point taken. Well :: that’s good to hear … it’s a violation that cuts straight to the core of the probation terms … not to mention the original crime … so it’d be unfortunate for society if it were allowed to go on continuously unchecked.
But a few days later in private conversation with the The Droid :: Perry was back to claiming purity …
“Based on our conversations of late, I have recently sent in all my materials and activities (again) for review by the my lawyers, my probation officer, prosecutors and even the Judge in my case, especially the things you have recently brought to light, and so far everyone says I am operating within the parameters of my agreement.
So why is your take so different?”
I guess the Judge knows about The Syndicate … I guess famed Memphis criminal attorney Leslie Ballin signed off on a cartel-hyped muilti-thousand dollar how-to Twitter frauduct … I guess Tennessee Attorney General William Gibbons can’t understand how counting the proceeds from your computer crimes in your “and you can too!” Internet marketing is a violation of the law :: AND of the special conditions of Belcher’s probation …
You know … either that or Perry Belcher was lying.
Robots not impressed by lame liars :: and after approximately twenty “shut your fat lying face” email smack downs … Belcher decided to agree to most of my terms and fake surrender.
Many observers thought this was big mistake. “Belcher will never change” … “he’s suckering you” … “he’s still the behind the scenes turd-monkey in everything Ryan Deiss does” … etc. etc. blah blah blah.
Yeah … I know.
But I was testing … and watching. Not everything has to be done right now grasshoppers. Aggression paired with patience makes a robot warrior unstoppable :: some famous old Chinese person prolly said that shit … so you know it’s true.
Would it be better to isolate members of the cartel and pick them off by forcing others in the group to exert negative social pressures … or attack them all at once and let them sink sticking together? The latter is the obvious answer :: but the more naive me-at-the-time was partial to the former.
Within days of Belcher’s fake surrender :: The Syndicate started trying to push me off on Jeremy Johnson. “The Perry thing’s over :: the rest of our french for trade union is innocent … move along now smart ass.”
I’m so bad at moving along though. You get used to something … you know? And then you just don’t want to give it up until some useless fat people are incarcerated for an appropriately protracted period.
Belcher mostly never stopped breaching the terms of our agreement :: and I mostly pretended to ignore it excepts this one hilarious time. Oh and this …
… quite tasteful.
Every year {or something} Perry and Ryan invite people to their stupid offices for a wildly inappropriate fee. They used to call it a “field trip” and charge $10K :: but now it’s called a “Traffic and Conversion Summit” … and it’s only $997 {plus $2000 honor system}.
Perry Belcher’s bio from the sales page …
“The Wildcard” is considered the World’s greatest living conversion expert and one of the World’s top 3 living copywriters. Perry has sold HUNDREDS of millions of dollars worth of products online himself and BILLIONS for his private clients.
In addition, he is an international importer, a consultant to 8 figure plus companies, and a venture capitalist who now after his semi-retirement, spends most of his time buying and selling companies.
Perry retired from teaching in 2009, pulled all his products from the market, and canceled all future speaking engagements. The ONLY place to see him and learn from his vast experience is at this one conference.
He is a mesmerizing speaker and an infamous marketing legend. Don’t miss him.
So now he’s sold double the amount he stated two years ago when he admitted that the already bullshit $56 million figure incorporated his criminal earnings? He’s not gonna do that anymore :: point taken :: unless he needs to do it twice as hard for some reason important to ongoing fraud … of course.
Well … the truce is over you saggy :: neck-scrotum having :: felonious bastard.
Watch how hard my already metal foot can pound back down on the accelerator.
>> bleep bloop
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:: read one now before you die of stupid.
From “Chapter One” of Belcher’s “Book:”
“I have sold well over $100 million worth of products online and have spent tons and tons of time and energy learning how to push sites to the top of the search engine ranks.
To prove it, I almost went to jail one time for selling $30+ million dollars worth of dietary supplements in a single year… more on that later in the book.”
http://perrybelcher.com/chapter-one-rough-of-my-new-book-up-for-review/
http://perrybelcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/chapter1.pdf
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Holy Sh- Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 7:43 am
@Belcher Is A Sociopath, the fact that he ‘almost’ went to jail on a felony conviction is a SELLING POINT?
Proof that these fuckers have no shame at all. None.
WINNER!! ::
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Lanna Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 9:03 am
@Holy Sh-,
Seriously, does he even comprehend the shit he’s saying?
Nobody “almost” goes to jail for selling too many dietary supplements. Though they’ve had their run-ins with the FDA, every year GNC grosses nearly 50 times what Perry claims Selmedica did “one time,” and nobody’s gone or “almost” gone to jail as far as I know:
$30,000,000 Perry’s claim for Selmedica
$1,429,500,000 GNC in 2003 (from Hoovers
It reminds me of that time PayPal shut down Naomi Dunford for laundering money.
Criminalz iz criminalz, yo.
Then there’s “one of the World’s top 3 living copywriters.” Even this rogues gallery of familiar IM faces (and a couple actual copywriters) doesn’t list Perry’s saggy neck-vagina.
Finally, “infamous marketing legend”??? I’ll let Dictionary.com do the heavy lifting:
WINNER!! ::
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Vagina is the Hole Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
LOSER!! ::
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SD Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
@Vagina is the Hole ::
… that’s a very specific point you’ve made there.
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Anonymous Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
@Holy Sh-,
No shame whatsoever plus no morals, ethics, dignity, decency or respect for his fellow man.
everyone please add in any others I may have missed
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Recovering Member Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 2:51 am
sad but true
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Lance Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 5:12 pm
@Belcher Is A Sociopath,
It’s outrageous that Perry Belcher NOW claims he was just selling “dietary supplements.”
That’s NOT what he told your friends, neighbors, grandmothers, and other relatives when he was selling them medical CURES for very serious health conditions…close to *100* fraudulent cures…for serious illnesses such as DEPRESSION…which can lead to SUICIDE. That’s cold blooded and heartless!
http://saltydroid.info/the-selmedica-scam-part-1/
http://thyroid.about.com/b/2008/03/28/if-you-bought-a-secret-cure-disease-ebook-any-selmedica-or-increase-media-product-or-are-a-victim-of-perry-belcher-the-police-want-to-the-hear-from-you.htm
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He had better Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 2:10 am
@Belcher Is A Sociopath, wow
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Perry Belcher is a crook, a liar, illiterate, and yet…
http://www.amazon.com/Perry-Belcher/e/B004U7IEI4
And look, he has a book on Amazon in desperate need of reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Money-Start-Business-Raise-Youll/dp/1937126994/
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I was formerly confused too... Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
@Perry Belcher Violated Probation Many Times,
“Perry Belcher is a lifetime entrepreneur” what??? the eff does that mean?
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Joe Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 4:59 pm
@I was formerly confused too…,
Just subsitute “sociopath” for “entrepreneur” and you have the real meaning of that statement.
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Spike Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:27 pm
@Perry Belcher Violated Probation Many Times,
Tried leaving a review on Amazon. I’ll be interested to see if it gets through :)
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Spike Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
@Spike,
Yikes it got through…
http://www.amazon.com/Import-Export-Business-Plan-ebook/dp/B004W3UG7S/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1
On to the other ‘books’ now.
I wonder how long they will stay up. Unfortunately it redacted the link to this site.
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Jasper Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
@Spike, If you can edit your comment, just tell people to google the “Salty Droid” blog for more info.
If anyone else reading this will add a comment, that would be great, and help get the truth out.
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Alley-Cat (aka Spike) Reply:
February 24th, 2012 at 6:38 pm
@Jasper, Seems the Belcher has a friend.. :) Post more comments guys Amazon lets them stick …. (His book has been reduced from $9.99 to 99 cents… must be selling really well). Took your advice about getting a mention of Salty’s site in there.
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Truth Must Prevail Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 7:23 am
@Alley-Cat (aka Spike), Belcher or one of his croneys just put a rebuttal under your comment. You can add a followup under that also.
Belcher’s croneys are also posting 5 star reviews on there calling it the “best book” etc.
Everybody reading this: please post a comment on Amazon as Alley-Cat has done. Just stick with the facts and keep it civil.
Thom Reply:
February 26th, 2012 at 11:37 pm
@Alley-Cat (aka Spike), The Perry Belcher fanboy who posted the rebuttal to your comment on Amazon is “Claude Whitacre” from “Wooster, Ohio” who also posted a Brunson-love comment trashing SD and everyone here:
http://saltydroid.info/dan-kennedy-presents-russell-brunson/
“When a person is convicted of a crime, the trial judge may order probation. The Adult Probation Department (CSCD) is responsible for supervising adults on court-ordered probation and monitoring their compliance with the conditions set forth by the court.”
State of Tennessee Board of Probation and Parole
(State in which Perry Belcher was convicted and sentenced to 10 years probation, subject to being sent to jail if he violated probation terms)
http://www.tn.gov/bopp/contact_us.htm
Shelby County District Attorney General’s Office
AMY P. WEIRICH, Shelby County District Attorney General
(Office that originally prosecuted Perry M. Belcher for felony)
http://www.scdag.com/Help/ContacttheDAsOffice/tabid/69/Default.aspx
Travis County Adult Probation Department (Austin, TX)
(Belcher currently resides in Austin while being fronted by Ryan Deiss)
http://www.co.travis.tx.us/adultprobation/
WINNER!! ::
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“I have sold well over $100 million worth of products online and have spent tons and tons of time and energy learning how to push sites to the top of the search engine ranks.”
So why not stop?
Isn’t $100 million enough for you?
I emailed Ed Dale once and asked him why someone who claimed to have billions in the bank continued to con people out of money with something called the Immediate Edge (a $97 a month frauduct that is the upsell from his so called “free” challenge email spam scam) but he didn’t reply.
I asked him why he continued to pimp out his kids as social media collateral but he didn’t reply.
Lying, cheating, conning bastards.
WINNER!! ::
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Anonymous Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
@Ed Dale Scam,
He’s never made Billions of dollars but they do steal millions…which is why they keep doing it
It’s easy money to con people with a get rich quick scheme
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Yuh-Yo perry belcher!!! Watch out!
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He had better Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 2:08 am
he had seriously better
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!!hah!!…my ass sold HUNdreadS of millions of dollars….if Belcher was any stupider, he’d be Ryan [[tend dem rabbits]] Deiss [[softer Deiss...softer dam it...you is gonna kill it]]…
[[chant]]the truce is over…the truce is over…the truce is over[[/chant]]
As us pseudo dentists would say…lying causes truce decay [[okay...yeah...no...it sounded better in my head]]…
please Salty Claus…I want to see Perry in Jail for Christmas…I promise to eat all my vegetables…
[[sing]]
You better watch out…
you should start to cry…
you might even pout…
I’m telling you guy…
Salty Claus is coming….back around…
[[/sing]]
[[sigh...too many sillibles]]
PS – Private message to the universal…please stop reading….
[[Universal...can you manifester my dreamS already....my wife says I have to get the beach sand, wading pool and oil derricks, out of the living room by the end of the week...thanks Universal]]…
WINNER!! ::
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It’s a shame you have to waste your obviously considerable talents and intellect on these scumbags. Thank g-d you do though.
WINNER!! ::
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LOLz… I have been waiting for this moment for a long time.
==Biznazz Bilding TIps From My ULtra Pltinum Mastermind Neo Pro==
Sell shit and call it gold… when the heats on, fake retire and comeback when it dies down.
Double your earnings claims and down play felony and other criminal activity by stating that it was a result of being “too good” at something.
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I guess the time he ‘almost went to jail’ is one chapter of his book. And the time he ‘was a complete moron and ended up in prison for a bunch of years’ is gonna be another chapter.
WINNER!! ::
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Go here now to the live Webinar with the 3 stooges:
http://www.onlinemeetingnow.com/seminar/?id=29b3bc8027
Check out Jenkins’ hair and tash. What a top-class bellend!
P.S. Don’t buy the product just grab it off one of the torrent or file sharing sites like FUB.
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Interesting timing. It looks like our syndicate scammer non-friends are lurning about and trying to time the statute of limitations. Perry and his minions must thing they is so smart
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Dale Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
@Statute of Limitations, Perry Belcher has 7 more years of probation to go, and there is NO WAY that sociopath and dyed-in-the-wool con artist is NOT going to give up his hardened life of crime:
http://saltydroid.info/the-perry-papers/
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“Perry bitcher has sold ober 56 million of fake dollars in goods and services online.”
HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO LEARN HOW TO MAKE MILLIONS ONLINE FROM SOMEONE WHO CAN’T SPELL, or LOSE WEIGHT, or FAKE SUCKCESS?
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Gv Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 7:20 am
@I was formerly confused too…,
You’ve missed the ennuendo… These syndicate types misspell on porpose. Its just another midicum of NLP…
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Professor Hokem Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am
@Gv, Believe you me, Belcher ain’t mizpellin’ on porpoise. Belcher is actually barely literate. Instead of learnin’ to read ‘n rite, Belcher concentrated on learnin’ to be a lyin’ crook. He learned himself real good.
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Clark Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:11 pm
@Gv,
Exactly. The ad is written deliberately bad so nobody clicks on it. It’s basically gaming FB’s PPC system so you can get millions of impressions for a few hundred bucks.
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Droid: Start a forum. :-)
Suggested sections:
* Scumbags exposed – where people can post their stories.
* Shitstorm section – where people can discuss current shitstorms around various people.
* Droid leaks – where people can post absolutely any kind of information that they come across.
* General discussion – discussion about everything else.
You can prodbably come up with some more. A forum would be great. At least a real BB where we can use all the functionality of a real bulletin board. :)
WINNER!! ::
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Perry Belcher and his FRONT man Ryan Deiss are loyal adherents of Dan Kennedy.
For those of you who do not know who Dan Kennedy is he is the master who teaches all these scammers how to make their crimes appear legitimate.
Kennedy is renown for his ‘inner circle’ of ‘students’…many of the syndicate are members.
The scam ideas the syndicate use to deceive and steal are straight out of the Dan Kennedy playbook.
Kennedy has a stable of these scammers paying him huge monthly fees to learn the techniques
That’s how Dirty Dan avoids detection. They each pay 350k a year to Dan Kennedy for his scamming secrets.
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If on one day he wants to make legit-money then he can charge the squirrels for extra storage space.
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You cannot believe a thing these people say to you. Any resemblance of remorse or change of ways is just a smoke screen and yet another one of endless attempts to manipulate you and mind fuck you to the max.
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Perry Belcher had dozens and dozens of websites selling fraudulent medical cures to people with serious illnesses. At that time, he also sold bug killing products.
Look at these new sites, fronted by Ryan Deiss (Belcher’s current enabler):
These all TARGET the exact same type of consumers that Belcher targeted before:
http://www.planetamazing.com
http://www.roachshredder.com
http://www.whiteflyguard.com
http://www.howtostophorsecribbing.com
http://www.bedbugshredder.com
http://www.aphidguard.com
http://www.fleashredder.com
http://www.spidermiteguard.com
http://www.chinchguard.com
http://www.fireantshredder.com
http://www.antshredder.com
http://www.howtostophorsecribbing.com
http://www.urinesecret.com
Quotes:
“1000s of users worldwide”
“Over 300 success stories on file”
Perry Belcher is still preying on vulnerable people with real problems.
Belcher NEVER stopped scamming, EVER.
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Looks like Belcher flat-out lied about “quitting” his marketing “training” b.s.:
http://theperrybelcherletter.com/uncategorized/well-hell-here-we-go/
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SD Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 6:40 pm
@Belcher’s B.S. “Letter” ::
He’s needs me to care about him … cause nobody else does.
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Here we go again, when do these turds learn. It just proves just how shameless they are and if he is hoping that Salty will give up then that proves even more how much of a psycho he is.
Screw once you get a chance to make good
Screw twice and you get the revenge of your victims
Screw thrice and you get Salty.
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JAIL TIME IS THE ONLY WAY Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 2:36 am
@DownPlunder, And:
Screw people THOUSANDS of times, you (eventually) go to prison.
Belcher will NEVER, EVER stop unless he goes to prison. That you can bet on.
Dishonesty and fraud are what he lives for.
His partners in crime need to go to jail with him.
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So felonious Belcher supposedly sold $100-$200 million worth of garbage, and lived in this redneck “mcmansion” that the government ended up auctioning for $345k.
Let’s hope they confiscate and auction whatever other ill-gotten gains he still has when they finally revoke his probation and send him to prison to serve out his sentence like he truly deserves.
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Lies mixed with truth
Well there’s one sentence in the sales page @SD referenced that’s likely true:
Infamous? Yeah. It’s time to start coercing that word back to its traditional highly negative connotation. Folks, “infamous” = “BAD” not “oh, he’s so cool he’s infamous! {mock swoon}“.
As for “mesmerizing speaker”: I haven’t personally heard TDBIQ (new acronym: The Douche Bag In Question) speak, but if he’s anything like the rest of his ilk (and how could he not be?) then the one actual marketable skill he has is that he can speak to a large group and get people to believe him. So that part’s true too.
I apologize for getting all over-intellectual but, “mesmerizing” is the exactly-perfect word if you happen to know its etymology [etymonline.com]:
“Mesmerism” it’s like… french-for-pseudo-science and -flim-flam. or something.
It’s hard for me to believe that, that level of irony can occur naturally. I have to suspect the copywriter saw/knew the double meaning of that sentence, and wrote it anyway.
–
Furry cows moo and decompress.
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Salty
From now only accept a japanese style surrender from these guys. You know the kind where they stab themself in the stomach while you cut ofg their head
Ps he spelled over wrong in his ad, and its grammatically wrong, he should have said more than, over refers to a physical space, but being a pro star copywriter lets you skimp on grammar spelling eh?
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Ryan Deiss’ just sent out an affiliate email trying to get people to mail for his “black friday” promotion.
That email smelled SO much like Perry Belcher (spellchecked of course) but it was sent under the fake name of “Dr. Daigle.”
I knew that name sounded familiar! (This one’s for you, Mike Young…)
Here’s the email, followed by a link to a certain page on Mike Young’s blog…
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From: ~ Doctor Daigle ~ affiliates@ideaincubatorlp.com
When I pulled stats this morning, I was shocked to see
further proof that your people are dying for something to
do on Black Friday (besides mess with the crowds).
The average opt-in rate from affiliates for this has been
OVER 60%!!!
Which means – if you send it, they will come.
And if you send em, we will close them for you.
That’s what we do.
I’ve got 2 swipes in this email; TODAY’S swipe and
TOMORROW’S swipe. Drop today’s and queue up tomorrow’s
and you’ll be able to chill for Thanksgiving, knowing
that your business is making money while you stuff yourself.
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START Swipe #2
Send ASAP on WEDNESDAY (TODAY)
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SUBJ: [CNN] Is $10,000 a month enough for you?
CNN recently asked 1000 Americans how much money they
would have to make each month to consider themselves rich.
The answer: $10,000 a month
If that is all YOU need, then you need to be on this
free LIVE event this Friday (a/k/a Black Friday)
See all the details below:
https://touchstone.infusionsoft.com/go/NAH
You’ll discover the EXACT system being used to build dozens of
$10k+/month businesses, plus you’ll learn the latest hacks,
loopholes and sneaky tricks from a master of the game, Ryan Deiss.
This live online event will be at least 2 hours of PURE content,
and just you being there will make you a much smarter marketer.
Here is just a little of what he’ll reveal…
During this free online training event you’ll discover:
* Why the “30 Days To $10K” Formula works so well and
so fast, and how you can leverage it between now and
New Year’s Day.
* The three big “shifts” you need to make if you want
to build a 5-figure monthly business
* Why selling a PRODUCT online is the surest recipe for
failure (did you get that???)
* Why you don’t need to know anything about traffic
generation to build a 5-figure business, seriously.
Plus tons more…
Here is the link to get registered now:
https://touchstone.infusionsoft.com/go/NAH
BEat the crowds on Black Friday and Join me! this is going to be
much more fun than getting clobbered by granny with an xbox at Wal-Mart.
See ya there,
[STUPID AFFILIATE NAME HERE]
P.S. I have a VERY cool FREE $197 gift when you register.
This year, skip the mall and MAKE some money for a change on Black Friday.
https://touchstone.infusionsoft.com/go/NAH
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END Swipe #2
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START Swipe #3
Queue Up for Thursday 6am EST
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Thursday Email
Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy Holidays to you and your family on this glorious day!
I wanted to take this chance to tell you how thankful I
am for you. Without you, my business would be nothing.
Thanks for your loyalty and your trust and thanks for
keeping things interesting.
Best wishes for a Happy Turkey Day and a VERY successful 2011!
[STUPID AFFILIATE NAME HERE]
P.S. You better be on the Black Friday Bootcamp or your
gonna hurt my feelings ;)
Here is your private link to join me tomorrow:
https://touchstone.infusionsoft.com/go/NAH
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END Swipe #3
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so you can do all of your shopping from the house, the
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250 registered = $250 Amazon Gift Card
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And when the dust settles, we’ll be making a very generous
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http://drivingtraffic.com/black-friday-bootcamp-donation-to-make-a-wish/).
You can check your registrations and sales stats at any time by
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Now, for a flashback…check the comments here on Mike Young’s post for “Dr. Daigle”
http://mikeyounglaw.com/internet-lawyer/perry-belcher-arrest/
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Well, that’s hard to write:
I actually met the guy before and he’s one of the few who actually showed me a couple of things that made me money (though not with twitter). Very nice in person, too – one of the few people in the marketing area who you can discuss basic politics and the financial crisis with without getting reminded of either preschoolers or Rush Limbaugh rhetoric.
It’s sad that he still doesn’t appear to have fully learned from his past. Although he’s usually pretty open about the conviction, the details are always a kind of blurry Kern-type “I made some mistakes and the government likes to take money from rich people so there”. Nah, you sold snake oil, time to suck it up and take full responsibility. It’s scary, sure, but it should beat living a lie, or a very broadly defined half-truth.
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Dale Reply:
November 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 pm
@Clark, I’ve never met Perry Belcher, but I once worked for a guy years ago who was just like him in nearly every behavioral respect. I know his kind – I can spot them miles away. They have no moral compass or genuine human empathy. Perry Belcher is THE classic sociopath. Very charming and gregarious on the surface, but very cold underneath.
This is a person who is dishonest to the core and, as SD once described him, lies by reflex. Ultimately, though people like that may smile and appear to be your ‘friend,’ they will also immediately throw you to the wolves the moment it serves them.
There is a comment on Mike Young’s blog post about Belcher’s arrest, made by someone who once worked for Belcher and saw the “real” person behind the facade, and it was very telling. You can read it here:
http://mikeyounglaw.com/internet-lawyer/perry-belcher-arrest/
Make no mistake. Left unchecked, Perry Belcher will continue to defraud people and those activities will multiply and grow worse. He has not stopped his deceptions, and in fact, he resumed his fraudulent activities before the ink had even dried on his parole papers.
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Clark Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 10:15 am
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LOSER!! ::
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Lance Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
@Clark, That lament is essentially espousing that Belcher has “something to offer” despite the fact that he is an outright liar and fraudster, and his long time track record shows there is zero likelihood of his ever changing.
Not only does that not help the cause, but it just further elevates that sociopath and his potential for more damage. I’ve noticed that comment time and time again: “He might be a crook, but I can learn something from that crook.”
Don’t ever think he is reserving his lies for everyone but you.
Sometimes you HAVE to throw the (bad) baby out with the bathwater. Otherwise, society, and perhaps even you, will pay a price for feeding and enabling a predator just so you can learn some of that predator’s “hunting techniques.”
There may have been a time once when people felt they could improve their business management skills from reading “Mein Kampf” and just trying to overlook “the bad stuff.”
It’s all “bad stuff.”
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Clark Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
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Clark Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
@Clark,
Jeez, there’s a heck of typos in that post. I’m sorry, I shouldn’t write before my first cup of coffee.
Carol Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
@Clark:
“If at some point Perry uses techniques that clearly defy legality, he deserves to be held accountable for that”
At “some point?” Belcher has committed MORE fraud since his felony conviction, so the more appropriate question would be, “at what point not?”
Have you even read all of the posts here about Belcher, including the comments which follow them? If you have, and that’s your thinking, I am speechless.
“I’m wouldn’t consider it “enabling” when I’m paying for something that I consider personally worthwhile. If he’s involved in other businesses, it should be the task of government agencies to track such things”
That comment is probably worthy of an entire S.D. post. It’s part and parcel as to how sociopathic grifters are often able to regroup and resume again after they’ve been caught.
@SD Speaking of supplement fraud, I had just digested this whole disgusting saga when I noticed @noradzone following me on Twitter. They are “the leading authority on nutrition and health as well as a provider of scientific information on anti-radiation supplements and therapies.” Ahem. (Meteoric rise, for a company incorporated this year.)
The whole site stinks. Lots of vague claims, scare stories (be ready for nuclear fallout!!) and terrible grammar. Supplements that imply (without saying outright) that they prevent cancer. Everything is pretty cheap, but it looks like “VIP autoship” is included, for your convenience.
Sample copy: “Because we have had so much success and have reached so many of people, we have a responsibility to go to the next level.”
I have a feeling it would be better if they didn’t reach so many more of people.
As someone who lives a lot closer to the leakiest nuclear power plant on the planet than they do, I’m angry at their fiery radiation symbol logo and scaremongering. Is there anything to do? I guess they’re not the usual IM suspects, but after reading about Mr. Belcher (nice that he saved you the trouble of making up a terrible name), who knows. I would have thought this was just relatively harmless internet noise til I read your stuff.
http://www.no-rad-zone.com/FAQ.html
Is it a scam? Actual fraud? Or just some friendly fake scientists exercising their rights in a free market?
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Lanna Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 7:33 am
@Concerned citizen,
I write copy for nutritional supplements. So, I’m not unbiased, but I know what’s OK to do and what’s not.
First, the “vague claims” and “imply[ing] (without saying outright) that they prevent cancer” are actually what you have to do to follow FDA regulations. This blog post explains “the strange world of FDA regulation.”
Contrast that with Selmedica’s “miraculous claims.”
On the product pages I clicked on, they cite references of actual medical trials supporting their structure-and-function claims. That’s what I do for my clients, and that’s what I want to see as a consumer. I can go over to PubMed and read those studies myself to verify what they’re saying.
Contrast that with Selmedica’s fake studies.
Second, I don’t see autoship mentioned anywhere. Did you see it? All I see is “$5.50 Flat Rate Shipping. Free Shipping for orders $25.00 and over.” Anyway, autoship itself is perfectly legal, but you have to tell them they’re signing up for autoship right by the “Get My Free Sample Now” button. You can’t hide it in the fine print below the fold.
I’d say their fiery radiation symbol implies that their products protect from radiation, which would be illegal if untrue, but, at least for potassium iodide, there’s truth to it.
You can ask the FDA to review them, but here’s the FDA’s priorities when it comes to nutritional supplements:
1. Seize supplements coming in from overseas that contain heroine, cocaine, etc.
2. Seize U.S. supplements that contain prescription medications.
3. Seize supplements coming in from overseas that contain dangerous levels of mercury, arsenic, lead, etc.
4. Everything else.
Bottom line, yes, they are within their rights in this free market.
I welcome @Jack and @_cartman_ and anyone else to add anything I’ve overlooked.
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Jack Reply:
November 25th, 2011 at 12:52 am
@Lanna, Only GRASE info and not all the other you put us over to – all which seems interesting for me, especially big part about claims being FDA priority – at least not like it’s explained in the article the man wrote for me and other people named Jack.
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Duke Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 7:46 am
@Concerned citizen, Well, there appears to be no names listed on the site, no address, and the site is also registered anonymously. You have to ask, “why?”
They are mainly pushing potassium iodide with fear based marketing. However, potassium iodide is widely available, and is sold over the counter very inexpensively, should someone want it for their personal armageddon stockpile.
The site totally smells like the bottom of a pair of recently field-worn cowboy boots.
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Off topic, but does anyone know if Robert Allen sends his leads to the Utah den of evil?
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Kevin Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
@Checking Up on Robert Allen,
You can check out most of the real estate “gooey-roos” here:
http://www.johntreed.com/Reedgururating.html
The author of that site, John Reed, is sharp as a tack, and really tells it like it is. Not long ago, he had a protracted legal battle with Russ Whitney over his review of Whitney.
You’ll notice that Robert Allen’s name is highlighted in RED on his index, which is not a favorable indicator.
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John Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
@Checking Up on Robert Allen,
He certainly does (or has done in the past) – Prosper Inc of Provo Utah and others. See: http://strangelyperfect.tv/3533/robert-g-allen-grants-and-a-credit-card-slimeball/ and the comment at: http://strangelyperfect.tv/3533/robert-g-allen-grants-and-a-credit-card-slimeball/#comment-2299
He also churns out spam like a mofo (or at least others do on his behalf)
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Jack Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
@Checking Up on Robert Allen,
The BBB which has given much Applause to Prosper and also an A Rating says Prosper-partner mr. Allen can have a big BBB warning/alert and get their highest F rating and also a very swell D+ BBB rating.
The told us about this in the warning in the alert:
As a humor piece, the BBB explained to me how such training programs can be used to exploit buyers.
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John Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
@Jack,
An A Rating for Prosper Inc? They must have changed their ways since the waterboarding days then? ;)
http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-7772-called-into-question.html
These clients don’t seem to happy though:
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/prosper-learning-utah-c138041.html
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/prosper-learning-utah-c144156.html
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Jack Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
@John, Talk about City Weekly article here:
http://saltydroid.info/mark-shurtleff-attorney-general-of-mlm/
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Jack Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
@John, $10,000 for eleven minute classes according to person here:
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/prosper-learning-utah-c430381.html
If it’s true, then he paid Prosper
$1,212/hour
$20/minute
$2.97/second
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Jack Reply:
November 24th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
@Jack, It meant to say eleven 45 minute classes, but probably 11 minutes would have been better to use the $10,000 for, because then the person could use the other time to do more productive/sensible things.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QtAg_uXq_M
What is this I don’t even
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Lance Reply:
January 4th, 2012 at 12:16 am
@Clark, Maybe Perry the felon Belcher’s “newsletter” will explain whatever that was supposed to be, along with barely-literate tips on how you too can be a convicted felon and fraudster just like he is.
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Clark Reply:
January 4th, 2012 at 1:50 am
@Lance,
That link gives my browser a 404, just as the first video gave my brain. Bashing politicians with lame overconfidence in a goanimate video is something I’d expect from my 14yo cousin, not a “old as dirt” copywriter. And the description makes it just more puzzling.
Maybe it’s a test to find out how dumb politicians really are?
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How come Perry Belcher looks like he should be head chef at a place named the Hornschmuggler’s Tavern and Saloon?
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Peter Reply:
January 16th, 2012 at 2:57 am
@Mike,
I laughed so hard at that.
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Bob Reply:
January 16th, 2012 at 3:48 am
@Mike, He also looks like a guy who frequently EATS at Hornschmuggler’s Tavern and Saloon, judging by his chin count. If he wasn’t such a lying-tongued loudmouth, you’d need a bookmark to locate his mouth.
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The nice folks over at Cake Wrecks have a hilarious send-up of Copyblogger-type “guest posts” and Perry Belcher-style scams today: http://www.cakewrecks.com/home/2012/2/27/guest-post.html
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